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comment about can you see how much

you've changed and how much you've

evolved and healed in these certain

areas come on that's a

win if the self-awareness weren't real

you wouldn't have these course

correcting in behavior so are you going

to become somebody totally different to

who you were in your natural state

probably not but I think we can mature

and heal and I do too i don't think this

is binary i don't think it's like You're

right i don't think it's binary i don't

think it's like self-awareness is a

total illusion and you can actually know

how you're coming across i think there's

a big gray area in spectrum there i mean

it's interesting i don't know why this

is what comes up but I remember when I

was learning how to do public speaking

for my Forbes talk and then the TED talk

i worked with someone who's a delivery

coach because the way you think you're

delivering something in your head may

not be how the audience is receiving it

oh that's a great question for your

podcast yeah because I had the very very

stark example of listening to me argue

with Kristen yes in your early oh that's

not how I think I argue in my head the

experience is way different than now I'm

objectively listening to it have you had

some aha moments if you had to listen

now to yourself for hours on so many

levels there he