0:01
They they wrote three new songs.
0:04
And they started working on it and we
0:06
trying to record it with Bill Ward.
0:16
Bill Ward it wasn't going well. It was
0:18
going very slow. Mhm.
0:20
So after a while they said, "Okay,
0:23
let's get Vinnie back."
0:25
So the phone rings again.
0:30
And we worked on the three songs in a
0:33
couple of days. It was all done.
0:37
even before that in the years 2000-ish,
0:42
>> Yeah. Um Sabbath was on tour with Ozzy.
0:46
I was on tour with Dio.
0:51
Bill Ward had a medical issue on the
0:55
after the tour and he couldn't really go
0:59
Sharon Osbourne called and and
1:03
wanted to know if I wanted to play with
1:05
Who's going to say no? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:12
So they wanted me to play with them.
1:15
So I flew out again and learned all this
1:17
the the stuff and we did a tour. So I
1:20
played with Sabbath with Ozzy as well.
1:23
And at that point that was the only
1:24
other drummer that was in Sabbath
1:27
that ever played with that lineup. Yeah.
1:30
Bill Ward and it was me. Yeah. And uh
1:33
that was great. Ozzy, you know, I met
1:36
him a few times obviously, but that was
1:38
great being in the band and seeing him
1:41
backstage, you never know what was going
1:45
>> So I did about two two weeks, three
1:47
weeks in Europe on touring with them.
1:50
And then the Dio years thing came back.
1:53
So then then I wind up recording with
1:55
them and then that led to Heaven and
2:01
>> you know, making a record, you know.
2:03
>> There there was some I remember that
2:05
that those days there was some issue
2:06
with the band Black Sabbath using,
2:09
Uh, I don't think it was so much that. I
2:13
never got a clear answer on that, but
2:15
they wanted to differentiate
2:19
the band going out as Black Sabbath when
2:22
we're not playing Paranoid, Iron Man.
2:25
We're not playing those songs. We're
2:27
playing Dio version. Yeah. Dio era of
2:31
Sabbath Yeah. from Heaven and Hell
2:33
album, Mob Rules, all that stuff. Did
2:36
>> we decided to call it Heaven and Hell.
2:38
Did you play something from the young
2:40
young Gillan era? No. No?
2:43
No. That one album, yeah.
2:46
Yeah, to me Sabbath to me was either
2:51
Yeah. They started putting different
2:56
different players, it dilutes
3:02
Tony Tony Martin was a good singer, but
3:04
maybe it was supposed to be a different
3:06
band name or maybe a different project.
3:09
>> Yeah, you know, it was a different like
3:10
Black Sabbath again with three singers
3:16
You know, but that's the way the
3:17
business is, you know. So Yeah, yeah,
3:19
yeah. What's your What's your as a fan
3:21
of Black Sabbath now after all those
3:23
years? How What's What's your What's
3:25
your best era of Black Sabbath?
3:29
Um, I like the Heaven and Hell, Mob
3:31
Rules, and then I like like the first
3:33
album, the first two albums. Yeah. They
3:35
were pretty scary back then.
3:38
Yeah, it had a sound Yeah. that was very
3:44
then I didn't really listen to them very
3:46
much. And then when Heaven and Hell came
3:48
out that had a sound that was
3:51
kind of magical. Yeah. You know. And
3:54
then uh uh that led to Mob Rules.
3:57
Which when they got that new drummer, it
4:02
Yeah, of course, man.
