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Jayda Hansen - drummer, model, and social-media influencer—joins Denim and Leather Podcast for a high-energy conversation about life behind the kit and in front of the lens. Known for her tight grooves, on-camera presence, and bold style, Jayda talks about her early influences, content creation, and building confidence as a woman in rock and metal. Expect stories from the road, gear talk, Jayda's beginnings for aspiring musicians who want to grow their online brand, and a few unexpected moments that reveal the person offstage. Tune in for an episode full of rhythm and attitude.
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Okay guys, in the next episode of Denim
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and Leather podcast we have
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one of my favorite
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female drummers out there,
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Jayda Hansen who's a drummer, a model
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and an online influencer.
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By the way, thank you because I'm a
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drummer, thank you for for making the
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the younger generation wanting to be
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drummers in with this influencing, you
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know. Thank you, Jayda.
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>> Thank you. Thank you so much for having
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me. I have been so excited and honestly,
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I think this is going to be so much fun.
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>> Yeah, yeah because I'm going to speak
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to like to you like a colleague drummer
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because
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I drum for like
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more than 25 years now.
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Uh
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>> That's awesome.
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>> Yeah, but but you but you do stuff that
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I cannot do, you know, on the drums.
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Uh
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So, okay, I'm first I'm going to ask you
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about your musical beginnings. Of
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course, I want to I want to know when
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when did you start listening to music
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and
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and how did
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the love for drums develop?
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>> Um for me, I started drumming when I was
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11.
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Um I've always loved music. Music has
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always been a big thing in my family.
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Um but nobody's drummed in my family up
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until me. And then
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um I used to listen to like Twenty One
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Pilots and
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um Imagine Dragons when I first started
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playing.
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And then from there, I think because I
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you know, started loving the drums and I
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wanted to learn more challenging songs,
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I
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uh started like trying to find new music
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and then I
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kind of came across like
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My Chemical Romance and System of a Down
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and then that got me into like metal
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like Avenged Sevenfold and then I just
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kind of went down that rabbit hole and
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I've been obsessed. So, that's pretty
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much been it. So, it's been almost 10
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years now.
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>> So, you are you like started drumming at
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10 or like you like started listening to
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music at 10 year old?
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>> Um I started drumming when I was 11, but
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I've kind of started
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really enjoying music I think when I was
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like about 10. That's when I really was
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like
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oh music is like the thing. That's when
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I it became my emotional crutch pretty
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much.
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>> Yeah, you're you're right because I
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started listening to music like very
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young. My my dad
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is still a rocker, you know, a metalhead
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from the '70s, but in the '80s when I
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was a kid I started listening to very
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small for hard rock bands.
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And
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when when Guns N' Roses were the top in
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the '90s, I was a kid of 10 year old and
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I enjoyed their music. They were like my
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first musical heroes, you know.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, you can say that about maybe about
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Avenged Sevenfold that you
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what right?
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>> Yeah.
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Yeah, for me honestly Avenged Sevenfold
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became one of those bands that I just
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genuinely loved the drums. Like I had
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come across them because I was looking
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for harder songs to learn
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because that was like how I learned was
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I just I would learn
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a song and then I'm like, okay, I need
3:11
something more challenging. And I need
3:13
something more challenging. And so I was
3:15
going through Meytal Cohen's drum
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covers. I'm not sure if you know of her,
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but
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>> Yeah, I know her. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah.
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>> Yeah, she was one of the first like
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female icons when it came to like metal
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drumming. And so I was watching all of
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her things and I came across her cover
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of Welcome to the Family by Avenged
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Sevenfold and I was like
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So, I became in love. I was like, okay,
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I got to learn this song and it took me
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forever to learn it cuz I was still
3:41
maybe a year or two into drumming
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um when I came across that cover of hers
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and
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Avenged Sevenfold is very hard to play.
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So, it took me a while to learn it, but
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I was really happy when I did.
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>> Let me tell you about this kind of I
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mean this is now what I what I
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remembered. This is kind of the circle
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of our interview.
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Uh when when The Rev died, God bless
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him,
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from from Avenged, right?
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Mike Portnoy from Dream Dream Theater
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entered as a substitute, you know?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. So,
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in my favorite band Twisted Sister
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>> Uh-huh.
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>> AJ Pero was the drummer in Twisted
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Sister. Mike Portnoy also entered in
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Twisted Sister after AJ Pero died.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And AJ Pero substituted
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Mike Portnoy in Adrenaline Mob.
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>> That's crazy.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Yeah. No, Mike Portnoy, he's incredible,
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like genuinely. I
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was blown away by his stuff and
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like
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I was so heartbroken when I learned that
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The Rev had passed away because I didn't
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know at the time. And so, I was obsessed
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with the Nightmare album of Avenged
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Sevenfold and their self-titled and
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everything. And I'm like, "Oh my gosh,
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this is so good. This is so good. I
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cannot wait to see them live. I want to
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see The Rev live." I was like scoping
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out The Rev, watching his technique. And
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then I was like
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I noticed the album cover of Nightmare
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had forever on it on the gravestone. And
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I was like
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that's weird.
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And then I like looked into it more. I'm
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like, "Oh."
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Oh.
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I might have cried that day.
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Um
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but that ended up sending me down like a
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kind of the rabbit hole of Dream Theater
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and Mike Portnoy because he filled in
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after The Rev passed away. And then from
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there, I just I really grew my
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um
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metal music
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>> Yeah.
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>> library there. So.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Because Dream Theater are
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one of the first progressive bands out
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there you know since
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>> Yeah.
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>> progressive metal, yeah.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Uh
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what kind of what kind of influences do
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you have musically? I mean besides those
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few bands, do you listen to a lot of
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maybe hard rock or maybe
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like progressive bands? I know you did
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you did Meshuggah
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Bleed cover as I saw it with with shake
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or something in one hand and drumming
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with the other.
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>> Yeah.
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>> [laughter]
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>> I saw that and I was like what? I cannot
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do it, you know, I can't do that.
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You you you do it you do it like without
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you know like lightly.
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>> Yeah. I it's kind of funny like
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everybody's always said that about my
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playing even when I was 13 years old and
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or 14 and I was like playing Lamb of God
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but I would dress up really cute because
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I've always been that way and I'd be
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playing like Later Embrace or Omerta
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with like the big smile on my face like
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da da da da da da da da da da da da da
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da da da da da da da da da da da
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Everybody would like kind of not make
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fun of it in a bad way but they would
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just like really laugh at it because I
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was that kind of person. I would just
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like play it over and over and I really
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enjoyed the music and like literally
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made me happy with the music so I
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It was always so funny with that and
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um
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that's just how I've always practiced is
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I'll practice it till I can literally do
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it without thinking.
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Um and
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I always kind of like what I mentioned
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earlier is I always looked for that
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challenge like I want harder I want
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harder I want something more
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challenging. And so that kind of took me
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through like all the different genres of
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metal so from metalcore like Avenged
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Sevenfold or Killswitch Engage
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you know to like progressive metal Dream
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Theater and like even some of the
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Avenged Sevenfold albums like um
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The Stage and stuff like that kind of
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music
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Tool
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Tool's incredibly hard but like so much
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fun.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um Danny Carey is a beast and then um
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from there, I don't know. I just I love
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so much. I like death metal, I guess,
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too. Like uh
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I guess Lamb of God, you would consider
7:56
them like death metal and all.
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>> Yeah, like Yeah, like more modern death
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metal, yeah.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Um
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>> I like the old school I like the old
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school death metal.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Like like
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>> what bands?
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>> Like I don't know, Napalm Death and
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maybe
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maybe Nuclear Assault, maybe some
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Cannibal Corpse or stuff like that, you
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know.
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Some some some old school.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Yeah, Cannibal Corpse is crazy. That is
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definitely crazy. Um
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but yeah, like I honestly love any kind
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of
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genre music in general. Um
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metal, of course, is like more
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challenging to play. I love that and
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it's also so cool. Like it feels
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empowering to listen to metal. It's just
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you feel scary, even though I'm not.
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>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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>> But I love like any genre music and Oh,
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another band I also love As I Lay Dying.
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I think their drummer is so talented
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like musically.
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>> [music]
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>> Um
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>> I I'm nothing to them. I don't I don't
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think I've heard a song because they're
8:57
I know they're popular now, but I'm I
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don't know. I I I never heard anything
9:02
from them. I don't know their hits.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Yeah, they're they have a really
9:06
interesting genre because it's like they
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I don't know. They mix like every genre
9:12
of music into one and some of their
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songs are like kind of longer, so it's
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just they blend like so much um and it's
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so unique. It's different. And I can't
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put them into one genre.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um but the drummer, too, he like
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he's able to somehow make the drums of
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any genre that they've kind of
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incorporated and just make it so
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cool and so musically inclined and
9:40
similar to to by Sleep Token or The Rev
9:43
is they not only have those metal
9:47
roots, I guess, when it comes to their
9:48
drumming, but they incorporate things
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like, you know, drum and bass and hip
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hop even and like all these other genres
9:55
into their music, which makes their
9:56
drumming so unique. So, I've always
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admired that as well.
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>> I I think I think
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I think they were all they were all
10:04
fans of
10:06
I think that that trend started with
10:08
Pantera. I think that Vinnie Paul was
10:10
like, you know, Vinnie Paul, Pantera.
10:13
I think he he he he was revolutionary in
10:15
the '90s and late '90s. I think that he
10:18
was like the one of the last big big big
10:21
big
10:23
revolutions in the drumming, you know,
10:25
in and in the sound. Yeah. And and and
10:28
he also
10:30
rest in peace. God bless him because he
10:31
was few years ago he also passed away.
10:35
>> Oh, no.
10:35
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One of the best.
10:39
But but I I get you what what you say
10:42
what you said before. You're very
10:43
positive like a person, but you like
10:45
that dark
10:47
dark image and a dark a dark playing.
10:48
Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
10:50
Um
10:51
yeah, I always try to be positive.
10:54
Um and like of course, I actually like
10:56
for a long time I had this like really
10:58
emo phase and it's like I like the metal
11:00
music and then I also like really sad
11:02
music. I was like, I can't do this.
11:06
But yeah, I'm a pretty like
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I know like some people they'll see me
11:11
like maybe in person when I'm like not
11:13
paying attention. They're like, you kind
11:14
of look intimidating. I'm like, I'm
11:15
really not.
11:17
I'm really not. I'm just so
11:20
maybe I'm listening to metal in my ears,
11:21
I'm like
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>> Yeah.
11:23
>> But I really
11:25
>> Yeah.
11:25
>> I'm not scary like most metalheads.
11:28
I wish I was.
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>> You know you know what kind of style
11:30
fits you? I love that
11:32
80s glam metal style, you know, that uh
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>> Oh, yeah.
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>> Uh
11:36
those guys are like the most positive
11:38
guys that you you will ever meet, you
11:40
know, and also also also the girls that
11:42
play in in in those bands because, you
11:45
know, Vixen and
11:47
uh I don't know, Joan Jett from back in
11:49
the day.
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>> Uh-huh.
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>> Uh do do you have do you have uh drum
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idols like uh female idols maybe?
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>> Um
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yeah, like honestly, there are so many
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people I look up to like genuinely. Um I
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think everybody is so unique in their
12:05
own way. I think growing up um because I
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was like when I first started drumming,
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like the first few years, I was like
12:13
mostly on YouTube. Um and so I really
12:15
loved like Kristina Schiano and uh
12:18
Meytal Cohen.
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Um you know, and those girls I just look
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up to like so much. And from then like
12:26
again like all kinds of drummers have
12:28
their own unique style and
12:30
like I
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I find that I'm I'm very different
12:34
because like I like in every other
12:38
aspect of my life, I'm very uh
12:41
girly in a way. So I I don't really
12:43
dress like a metalhead most of the time.
12:45
I mean, here I I'm wearing like a Core
12:46
Kids shirt, so it's like kind of metal,
12:48
but for the most part, I wear like a lot
12:52
of dresses. Like I I love that kind of
12:54
stuff and then but I like this kind of
12:56
music, so I ended up just doing that
12:58
myself for the most part. I think like
13:01
Meytal Cohen did that a lot. I think she
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really
13:04
She was the OG when it came to that, but
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um
13:08
which is why I think I also loved her a
13:10
lot is she really embraced that
13:12
femininity of being a woman, but then
13:14
like
13:16
she played some of the scariest stuff so
13:18
chill and I'm like yeah. Wow. So I'd say
13:21
like growing up it was definitely like
13:23
Meytal
13:24
um for the most part I think was a big
13:26
inspiration for me.
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>> Yeah, I I want to You know what? I I've
13:30
I've I've got a request for for you for
13:34
for drumming, but I will send it to you
13:36
on on your Instagram because I don't
13:38
know if you've done it, but I I will
13:39
send it to you. I have I have something
13:41
in mind that I think you will
13:43
do great, you know? It's from Vinnie
13:45
Paul. It's from Pantera. But, I will I
13:46
will send it to you later.
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Um
13:48
>> Okay.
13:49
>> So, I wanted to ask you Did Did you have
13:50
any bands Did you form any bands growing
13:53
up or
13:54
uh did you played in bands?
13:56
>> Um I I haven't really been officially
14:00
part of a band yet um for a few reasons.
14:03
>> Mhm.
14:04
>> The city I live in um is pretty much a
14:06
college town. And with that, like, a lot
14:10
of people here are studying, and so
14:12
maybe they do like music, but it's kind
14:15
of like a hobby cuz they're really
14:17
working towards like whatever serious
14:19
career that they're doing in college,
14:21
whether it's like being a doctor or a
14:22
dentist or a lawyer or something.
14:25
And once they're done here, they leave
14:28
because the city I'm in is kind of like
14:30
dead end a little bit. Um
14:34
so
14:35
for the last like four or five years, I
14:37
haven't actually been a part of a band
14:39
because of that. And I've had the
14:41
opportunity to join a band, um but I
14:44
just I've been kind of
14:47
working on my own thing. Like, it's been
14:49
pretty crazy. Me and my family moved to
14:50
America a few years ago. So, we're also
14:53
very new here, and sort of
14:55
>> Sorry, you're from Can- Canada, right?
14:58
>> Yeah.
14:58
>> But, now you're in USA, okay? Yeah?
15:00
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm here in Florida. Yeah.
15:04
>> Yeah. And it's it's beautiful out here
15:06
in Florida. There's no snow, which is
15:07
nice.
15:09
Um
15:11
but yeah, it was setting all that up and
15:13
like going through this process. It's
15:15
been crazy. So, I've had the opportunity
15:16
to be in a band, but I haven't like,
15:19
you know, um
15:21
been able to take on that opportunity
15:23
yet and eventually I really hope to like
15:26
be a part of a band or like find a band,
15:28
start a band maybe. That'd be pretty
15:30
awesome.
15:31
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be or maybe
15:33
you you're making your own solo album or
15:36
maybe you're thinking about that also.
15:39
>> Sorry?
15:40
>> To to make some solo record, solo album.
15:42
>> Oh.
15:43
Yeah, I think that would be really fun.
15:45
Um, I know a little bit of guitar and
15:47
that's kind of uh it's kind of it. Um,
15:51
I'm not a singer.
15:53
>> No, but
15:54
>> of tried metal screaming though.
15:55
>> [laughter]
15:56
>> No, but with some guest appearances, you
15:58
know, guest guitarist and you know,
16:00
yeah.
16:00
>> Yeah, I mean, I I would love to. I've
16:02
done some collaborations with some
16:04
people who are like so talented. Um, but
16:08
like I haven't really released official
16:13
songs yet.
16:14
>> Yeah.
16:14
>> Um,
16:15
>> Like your own solo
16:16
>> like to. Yeah, I would like to though. I
16:18
think that would be so fun, like such a
16:20
fun project. Again, it's like it would
16:23
mostly be online because most of my
16:25
musician friends are online.
16:26
>> Yeah, yeah.
16:28
>> And everybody in my city, they're just
16:30
like
16:32
they don't really care about music the
16:33
way I do.
16:34
>> Oh.
16:34
>> So, yeah.
16:36
>> That's sad. That's sad. I mean, well,
16:38
but okay. Have you tried
16:40
getting up on stage and jam with some
16:42
band maybe?
16:44
>> Yeah, so I did um just recently I played
16:48
a song live with Deadlands. I played
16:50
live with them um one time and they are
16:53
like such a sick band. I love Casey, the
16:57
vocalist. She's so sweet and they are
17:00
such a sick band. Um, and I played
17:04
Kundalini with them on stage which was
17:06
so much fun. Um, and then
17:10
apart from that, I also played with uh
17:12
Baby Chaos. She's not really metal.
17:15
She's She has a really unique style of
17:17
music. I think I don't know if she goes
17:19
by Baby Kaos anymore.
17:21
I think she might just go by Elizabeth
17:23
Rose now, which is her name.
17:25
>> Mhm.
17:25
>> But
17:26
it was like interesting genre fusion of
17:29
like
17:32
I don't know. I don't know what you'd
17:34
call it. You kind of got to listen to
17:35
it, but it was very
17:37
um
17:38
like a
17:39
female vocalist but grungy kind of and
17:43
like
17:44
sometimes electronic, sometimes not. And
17:46
I had like these breakdowns which were
17:48
cool, but it was like
17:50
I don't know who you'd compare them to.
17:52
She was very unique with that. And so I
17:54
did play with her live in Orlando as
17:56
well. Um and that was fun.
18:00
>> It was fun. Some kind of alternative
18:02
rock or something, yeah?
18:04
>> Yeah, it it was interesting. It was It
18:06
was like a I almost want to say she did
18:08
a grungy version of um Billie Eilish's
18:11
like when we go to
18:13
when we fall asleep where we go. I think
18:15
it's that album. But she did it like
18:17
grunge and like had that um almost
18:20
Deftones vibe.
18:21
>> Mhm. Mhm.
18:22
>> Um so it was very unique and it was very
18:24
cool.
18:26
And then I also played a a live gig
18:28
locally here um called Pompano Emo Night
18:32
which is like um
18:34
it was kind of this also really unique
18:37
thing where it wasn't really an official
18:38
band, but what they did was we we would
18:42
host an event and we'd have a drummer
18:44
and a vocalist. So of course I was the
18:46
drummer and then they'd have like a
18:47
vocalist. Um and then they would play
18:51
like original like pop punk songs like
18:53
Blink 182 and Pierce the Veil. And
18:56
they'd play this real song in the
18:58
background, but we would like play over
18:59
top of it and kind of hype up the crowd
19:01
and had that like cool thing. So you
19:04
know, a lot of
19:05
people would like come to the event and
19:07
just like have fun and jam. Almost like
19:08
they're at a concert, but it's like with
19:10
those classic
19:12
>> Yeah.
19:12
>> pop punk songs that they loved. Um
19:15
And that was like a gig I did for like a
19:16
year.
19:17
So, I have experience playing live, but
19:19
I have I haven't been a part of an
19:20
official band yet.
19:22
>> Yeah, it would be great if you playing
19:24
some festivals. Like I I saw that you
19:27
because I follow you on Instagram, I saw
19:29
that you were at some festival this last
19:31
weekend or something.
19:32
>> Yeah. Yeah, Welcome to Rockville. It was
19:35
so good. I loved it.
19:37
>> Some great bands that
19:39
Five Finger Death Punch, right?
19:40
>> Yes, Five Finger Death Punch. They were
19:43
incredible. I loved their show.
19:45
Um I think Killswitch was there. They
19:47
were sick. Um and that was on Thursday.
19:50
That was like the two bands I got to see
19:51
on Thursday. They were amazing. I was so
19:53
happy I got to see them. And then I also
19:56
went on Sunday.
19:58
And um I got to see a lot more bands, a
20:02
lot more really great bands. I got to
20:04
see Lez Zeppelin. I think that's how you
20:06
pronounce them. My friend um Gerardo or
20:08
Kimiko Musico, he is the guitarist for
20:11
them and uh they were amazing. They were
20:14
really sick. I didn't I'm not I don't
20:16
speak Mexican, so
20:18
I don't speak Spanish, so it was kind of
20:20
like awful. I couldn't understand it,
20:22
but they were so talented. And you can
20:24
tell they just have that passion for
20:26
music. It was incredible.
20:28
>> Wait, was it was it there
20:31
uh
20:31
were DragonForce playing, Alyssa?
20:34
>> Uh no, I missed that day. I didn't get
20:36
to go Saturday and I was so
20:38
disappointed, but Alyssa, she's so
20:42
freaking sweet and talented.
20:44
>> Yeah, it was her I think her first show
20:46
with them.
20:47
>> Yeah, I know. I was so sad I missed it.
20:50
I was like, "No way." You know, um I
20:53
just I didn't get tickets for Saturday,
20:55
but um
20:57
yeah, I was there Sunday. And uh other
21:00
bands that were there, um A Day to
21:01
Remember was there on on uh Sunday.
21:04
And um My Chemical Romance.
21:07
They were so good.
21:07
>> Oh, yeah.
21:08
>> I had to leave early because they pushed
21:11
it back from the weather. The weather
21:12
was like awful that day. I got drenched.
21:15
>> My Chemical Romance did a did a did a
21:17
reunion now, right? I mean, they they
21:19
were off for some years.
21:21
>> Yeah, I I I I'll be honest, I haven't
21:24
kept up too much. I thought that they
21:25
kind of retired in a way.
21:27
>> Yeah, they were disbanded. I think
21:29
they're doing like reunion tour or
21:30
something, yeah. Yeah.
21:31
>> Yeah, yeah, but they're back now and
21:33
like every like they they really did
21:35
really good. Like genuinely so good.
21:39
Um
21:40
and uh Gerard Way, he's I don't know, on
21:43
stage he has this like really um
21:47
unique presence. Like it's it's kind of
21:49
like uh
21:51
uh what do you compare it? I feel like I
21:53
almost want to compare it to like
21:55
Edward Scissorhands kind of vibe. Like
21:57
he has his face painted and he looks
21:59
like
22:01
kind of like crazy but really cool and
22:03
like
22:04
it's really
22:05
>> Like
22:05
the singer from from The Cure, if you
22:08
know them.
22:09
>> Yeah, yeah. Like he's so it's so
22:11
interesting. So, that was really cool
22:14
and I unfortunately had to leave early
22:16
cuz like they pushed it back really
22:18
late. I think they were probably playing
22:20
till like
22:21
probably 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. It
22:24
was like really late.
22:26
Um
22:27
>> Yeah, from all the bands that you
22:28
mentioned, I I love Five Finger Death
22:30
Punch. I saw them with Megadeth.
22:32
>> Oh, yeah.
22:33
>> And it was amazing show. Those both both
22:35
bands were killer, you know.
22:38
>> Yes.
22:38
>> And by the way, both bands have great
22:40
drummers, so
22:42
>> Yes. Oh my goodness. Charlie Engine?
22:45
He's a beast. His drum solos?
22:49
The best I've seen. Like genuinely,
22:51
they're crazy.
22:53
And he it was so funny. I was watching
22:55
his drum solo and it wouldn't end. He
22:57
just kept going and getting cooler and
22:59
he kept going. I was like, "Oh my gosh,
23:01
when is this end going to end cuz I
23:03
don't want it to end, but how can
23:05
someone keep going for so long? He's a
23:07
beast.
23:08
>> Yeah.
23:08
>> Um
23:10
and
23:11
uh yeah, Five Finger Death Punch,
23:13
they're like amazing.
23:14
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so uh
23:17
tell me about your
23:19
you also have some kind of modeling
23:21
career.
23:23
What's up with that? How are How are you
23:24
going uh
23:25
doing tracks with that and with this,
23:27
you know, how's it going?
23:30
>> Yeah, I kind of like do modeling on the
23:32
side. Like whenever it happens, I'm I'm
23:35
it's really cool. I uh I haven't fully
23:38
pursued that. Back in Canada, I was part
23:40
of a talent agency um to do modeling and
23:43
even acting for a little bit. Um and
23:47
I've been an actor even um in some
23:49
cases. Like I was
23:51
an actor and a drummer in the a music
23:54
video for uh Free Fire, which is a video
23:57
game.
23:58
Um and uh it's a very popular video
24:02
game, actually. It's like really cool
24:04
and uh
24:05
it's basically like a Battle Royale
24:08
type video game, but for mobile. And um
24:12
they their character that they were
24:13
releasing that season was like a female
24:16
drummer and stuff. So, I was able I was
24:18
basically
24:20
uh acted as her in the music video,
24:22
which was really fun. And then like with
24:24
modeling and stuff, it's kind of just
24:26
been like
24:27
whenever the opportunity arises. I like
24:29
modeling. I enjoy it. Um
24:32
but I just I guess I haven't like
24:36
um
24:37
>> Yeah, fully fully
24:38
>> been an official model. Yeah, I'm not
24:39
like
24:40
>> Yeah, you're not fully dedicated to
24:42
that, yeah.
24:43
>> Yeah, yeah. But I'm like so down for it
24:45
and I've modeled for some companies and
24:47
stuff and uh
24:50
I enjoy it. I just
24:51
haven't done it full-time, I guess.
24:53
>> Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Awesome. I saw that
24:56
you you
24:58
some package from Instagram. It's like
25:00
Instagram collaboration or something.
25:03
Is it some program? What's up with that?
25:06
>> Yes, so basically
25:09
they Meta was hosting a program called
25:12
get real with me. And we're basically
25:15
testing out some of the newer um
25:19
integrations that they're adding to
25:20
Instagram especially with reels.
25:22
Trial reels is a big thing now. And
25:26
stuff like that and I uh they selected
25:31
a few like creators to be a part of that
25:33
program and they even had a live event
25:36
in New York both in New York and LA um
25:40
where creators could go there and
25:42
connect and everything. And I I couldn't
25:45
go cuz I'm in Florida and it was like a
25:49
week from then which was a little bit
25:50
like kind of last minute for me. I
25:53
couldn't get out there in time.
25:54
>> Yeah.
25:55
>> But they sent me a gift anyways even
25:57
though I couldn't participate which is
25:58
really nice of them. But yeah, so I'm
26:02
I'm kind of part of their get real with
26:03
me program and
26:05
just kind of
26:06
testing out some of the new features
26:08
Instagram's integrating for everybody.
26:11
So
26:11
>> That's amazing because it's like a
26:13
recognition of your work, you know.
26:15
>> Yeah. Yeah, it really is. I could not
26:18
believe that. I actually they reached
26:20
out to me through email but I get so
26:22
much spam emails.
26:24
>> Yeah. Yeah.
26:25
>> Whether they say it's from Meta or you
26:27
know, some kind of collaboration or
26:29
anything like that and I get so many
26:30
spam emails.
26:32
>> probably got mine in the spam. I don't
26:34
know.
26:34
>> Yeah, honestly like I
26:37
I also get a lot of spam for like being
26:39
part of podcast too which is I think why
26:41
like I didn't like I didn't even respond
26:43
to you right away cuz I had to like
26:45
triple check if you were legit.
26:48
I get so much spam
26:51
um
26:52
but then they out again and I think they
26:54
had an actual like meta agent reach out
26:56
to me directly and they were like, "Hey,
26:58
like we really want you to be a part of
27:00
this." I was like,
27:02
"Okay, maybe this is legit." [laughter]
27:05
So, yeah, that was uh fun. I felt so
27:07
bad. Um, but
27:09
>> you know what? You just you just made me
27:12
also positive because you you you
27:14
checked that we are legit and
27:16
>> Yeah.
27:17
>> By the By the way, by the way, you are
27:19
one of the drummers I had on the show.
27:22
It's like
27:23
uh more than 50 episodes, but I've had
27:26
some great drummers also. I had uh
27:28
Vinnie Appice. Uh he's a legend. He is
27:30
from Black Sabbath and from Dio, you
27:32
know. And uh we had Johnny Dee, who is
27:35
uh
27:36
uh who is from Doro and from Tygers of
27:39
Pan Tang and from uh real legendary
27:40
bands from the '80s.
27:41
>> Yeah.
27:42
>> And uh we had we had Joey Cassata, who
27:44
is now in Twisted Sister, played with
27:46
Ace Frehley from Kiss. You know, it's
27:48
like legendary drummers there.
27:50
>> Yeah. No, that's amazing. Yeah, like
27:52
genuinely um I I I genuinely uh love
27:56
your podcast. Um, but it's like I'll get
27:59
a fake email of somebody inviting me to
28:02
like an already existing podcast.
28:04
>> Uh-huh.
28:04
>> But I have to But I have to make sure
28:06
that it's you reaching out and not some
28:08
person pretending to be you.
28:10
>> Yeah.
28:10
>> Cuz it was actually kind of crazy cuz uh
28:13
I was uh and I I like luckily like
28:17
I was careful, but um I uh was invited
28:20
to a podcast that looked like like it
28:23
looked like they were actually reaching
28:24
out to me, you know, it had the same
28:25
person's name and everything
28:26
>> Yeah.
28:27
>> as like uh you know, the host or
28:29
whatever, and then
28:31
um it was supposed to be like on
28:33
Facebook live.
28:35
And so we had they had invited me to a
28:37
Zoom call to like um and I'm just saying
28:40
this to give like people awareness. Like
28:42
don't fall for this cuz I think this is
28:44
something going around. I don't know. I
28:45
Well, I get it like an email from like
28:47
people like this
28:49
every week trying to get me into some
28:51
kind of podcast this way. But they'll
28:52
like try to get you to do a Facebook
28:54
live interview or podcast or whatever.
28:58
And then they're like, "Okay, well, to
28:59
do a Facebook live, you have to go here
29:02
through your settings." And then there's
29:04
like a key and you have to like give my
29:06
page access to your page so that we can
29:09
run the live across both of our pages.
29:12
>> Woah.
29:13
>> And that's how you get scammed. And it
29:15
was the first time I kind of like went
29:16
like you know, I did call them, but then
29:19
when they were like
29:20
doing all that, I was like
29:23
cuz I was very new to this. This
29:24
happened like a few years ago. It was
29:26
the first
29:27
>> Yeah.
29:27
>> podcast interview I would have done. And
29:29
so, I was like, "Hmm, this is uh really
29:32
sketch." It was really weird. And then
29:35
yeah.
29:36
They they they've been like that's an
29:38
ongoing thing that like some creators
29:40
are like falling into. I'm like, "Don't
29:42
do that. Don't do that." So, anyway.
29:45
Also, make sure I had to make sure it
29:47
was actually you reaching out to me
29:48
so that
29:49
>> [laughter]
29:49
>> I don't get hacked.
29:50
>> Thank you.
29:51
I I I I had recently when I had Vinnie
29:54
Appice, the drummer from Black Sabbath.
29:56
Uh
29:57
I told him about the book because I was
29:59
you know, I
30:00
I'm a fan of his, but I also had to
30:02
check his biography. And I I checked the
30:05
a book on Amazon that's like the
30:07
biography the official biography of
30:09
Vinnie Appice, you know? And he was
30:11
like, "I don't have a I don't have a
30:12
book, you know?"
30:13
And he was And we found out in the show
30:16
that it was not authorized by him, you
30:18
know?
30:18
>> [laughter]
30:19
>> Wow.
30:20
>> Yeah, it was like and he he going to
30:22
he going to try to find the person that
30:24
wrote the book and not authorized
30:26
biography and stuff like that, you know?
30:27
>> Wow. That's crazy.
30:29
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, people make make
30:31
fake make fake stuff even on a on a
30:33
bigger level, you know?
30:35
>> Yeah. I get a lot of people also like
30:37
creating fake accounts on me of me
30:39
online. And then they're like reaching
30:42
out to people trying to sell them
30:45
something and it's like completely fake
30:47
you know and so people are gifting these
30:49
like fake accounts and you know they're
30:52
these accounts are telling you to send
30:53
them to telling them
30:56
and stuff and it's all fake.
30:58
And
30:59
it's been pretty bad and so I like all
31:02
the time people are like oh here's
31:03
another fake account of you here's
31:05
another fake account and I try to report
31:07
them and I try to block them.
31:09
>> Yeah.
31:09
>> And
31:12
It doesn't Instagram and Tik Tok and
31:14
stuff like you can't it doesn't really
31:16
go through they don't really fix it.
31:18
>> Yeah or they fix it but someone else
31:20
makes another account so it's
31:22
>> Yeah.
31:23
>> Never ending.
31:24
>> Facebook's the worst for that I find
31:25
like everybody on Facebook is so vicious
31:28
when it comes to trying to scam my
31:30
followers like they'll literally go
31:32
through my comment section telling my
31:34
followers to message them to get them to
31:36
send
31:37
that person money like I will never ask
31:39
people to just like randomly send me
31:41
money please like that's crazy.
31:44
>> [laughter]
31:44
>> No that's so random.
31:46
>> Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
31:47
>> Like one thing is to sell merch and and
31:50
do that and the other thing is to like
31:52
just gift me it's like no.
31:55
>> [laughter]
31:56
>> Um so
31:58
people are vicious out there.
31:59
>> Yeah yeah yeah when we're talking about
32:02
moral stuff
32:04
moral and ethics stuff I want to ask you
32:06
about your faith your your
32:09
a lot of time you're speaking about
32:10
about
32:11
Christianity and about your faith you
32:13
you you're Christian right?
32:15
>> Yeah.
32:16
>> Uh
32:17
you you you are speaking about it online
32:19
I know I've seen some stories
32:22
you you were from always or you found
32:25
out faith
32:27
like religion afterwards when you grow
32:30
up or?
32:31
>> Um so I've I've always grown up in a
32:34
Christian family like my whole family's
32:36
Christian.
32:37
>> I'm asking you because I'm Orthodox
32:39
Christian from all
32:40
>> Christian family, you know.
32:41
>> Oh, wow. Okay. Well, that's really cool,
32:43
actually.
32:44
Um
32:45
No, like I think honestly some of the
32:47
nicest people I've met are Orthodox
32:48
Christians. I think like it's such it's
32:50
uh but it's it's I feel like it's also
32:53
you know, um
32:55
feel like it's a more it's more popular
32:57
now. Like a lot of people are turning to
32:59
Orthodoxy, which is really
33:00
>> Uh it's it's popular in in in USA,
33:02
maybe, but uh in in in in my part of the
33:05
world it's it's since forever it's here,
33:08
you know, like uh
33:09
it's been here for 2,000 years.
33:12
>> Wow, that's amazing. Um yeah, so I'm a
33:15
Christian. I always have been, but I
33:19
think in the last few years I've just
33:20
been um
33:22
trying to truly have that kind of
33:25
relationship. Like there's a difference
33:27
between like, you know, like I I was
33:28
always a Christian. I always believed in
33:30
God. I believed in Jesus, but you know,
33:32
I hadn't like read the full Bible. I
33:35
haven't I hadn't like studied it, you
33:37
know, um up until like a few years ago,
33:39
you know, I've reading the Bible and
33:41
studying it and truly just growing that
33:44
relationship with God. And I uh
33:48
it's changed my life. Like truly
33:49
understanding and honestly I think
33:52
having
33:54
I I honestly truly like believe that um
33:58
having that kind of faith, it really uh
34:01
it gives you that sense of uh purpose,
34:04
you know.
34:05
>> It it gives you
34:06
Yeah, also it it gives you the positive
34:09
>> Exactly.
34:10
>> thing in that you you you can you can
34:12
see by the face of the
34:14
or by the eyes of the of the people, you
34:16
know. Yeah. Yeah.
34:17
>> I I notice that, too, genuinely. And I I
34:20
think it's just that um
34:22
it's it's that
34:24
faith, it's that security, you know, I
34:26
think that when a lot of people who
34:28
don't aren't Christian or like don't
34:30
have a faith like that, it's uh I feel
34:32
like they're taking on the whole world
34:34
alone and it's like they that you that
34:36
weighs on you, you know, you feel that
34:38
and it it can break somebody down and
34:40
you know, I I uh
34:43
I I was feeling that because although I
34:45
was Christian, I wasn't uh I wasn't
34:48
truly like having faith that
34:50
everything's going to work out and that
34:51
I'm not like alone in this world, if
34:54
that makes sense. And
34:55
and um you know,
34:58
when I developed that mindset of like
35:00
God's got me, you know, he feeds the
35:02
birds. Why why wouldn't he help me, you
35:04
know, cuz my life it's been crazy uh the
35:07
last few years and I've you know, had
35:10
some traumatic experiences in the past
35:12
to say the least.
35:13
And you know,
35:16
I didn't have that positivity, that
35:19
faith and I I truly believe that when
35:20
you live
35:22
by the teachings of Jesus, like if if
35:25
everybody did that, I think that there
35:26
would be world peace, personally.
35:28
>> Yeah, it it is as it's in the Bible to
35:30
do not do not do not be afraid. There's
35:31
365 times, now. Right?
35:33
>> Yes. Oh my gosh. When I found that out,
35:36
I just got chills again. When I found
35:37
that out, I got chills and I was like
35:40
wow. And I'm someone that I think
35:42
anxiety is like probably the worst thing
35:45
I struggle with is I'm very anxious
35:47
person.
35:48
>> Let me tell you something something more
35:49
something even also amazing. Where I'm
35:53
where I'm from, we have a
35:54
we have a town called Ohrid. Uh it's by
35:57
a by the by the
35:59
by the biggest by the by the deepest and
36:01
oldest lake in Europe. And it's it's
36:04
like a Christian they they they say it's
36:06
like the Europe's Jerusalem. You know?
36:09
>> Yeah.
36:09
>> Uh it has it has 365 churches. For every
36:13
day, one church, you know.
36:15
>> Wow.
36:16
>> In the in the town and in the in the
36:17
lake. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
36:19
>> Wow.
36:19
>> It's amazing.
36:20
>> It's amazing.
36:21
>> Yeah.
36:21
>> Yeah. Yeah.
36:22
>> Wow. Yeah.
36:24
Honestly, like I uh
36:27
I love that and I love theology. Like I
36:29
I talk about my faith a lot because I I
36:32
I try to be genuine to who I am and I
36:35
know not everybody's like Christian and
36:37
you know I I don't try to like um
36:40
>> Push it, yeah.
36:41
>> I don't I don't make people feel bad for
36:43
not being Christian, you know, but I I
36:46
honestly wish that more people online
36:49
were talking about faith and
36:50
Christianity, especially in the music
36:52
scene.
36:53
At the time that I was learning
36:56
um because I feel like I would have
36:58
learned sooner, like more, you know?
37:00
>> Yeah, you got to you got to check you
37:02
got to check Michael Sweet from the band
37:04
Stryper. He's been He's He's one of the
37:06
first metal bands from the '80s that's
37:09
Christian metal band.
37:10
>> Wow.
37:11
>> Stryper, yeah. Michael Sweet, he's a a
37:13
great guy. He's a very into into the
37:15
faith and he's always speaking about it
37:17
and still playing and still recording
37:19
music.
37:20
>> Okay, I'm going to look into them
37:22
because I love that. I love finding
37:24
Christian bands. Just the other day I
37:25
found um Demon Hunter
37:28
>> Okay, yeah.
37:28
>> a Christian metal band and I was like,
37:30
"Wow, that's so cool." And again, I
37:32
missed them live when they were playing
37:34
at what Rockville. I did I missed them.
37:36
I didn't get to see them. But I found
37:38
them on my feed the other day. I was
37:40
like, "Whoa, they're so good." Um
37:44
and yeah, I feel like
37:47
Christianity in the metal industry is
37:50
kind of like coming out, too, recently,
37:52
which is so nice.
37:54
And um
37:55
>> yeah.
37:55
>> Yeah.
37:56
In general, I'm a very authentic person.
37:58
So, when I have a belief and when I feel
38:00
like convicted to talk about anything, I
38:03
do.
38:04
Um you know, and I'm I'm very real with
38:06
who I am, you know, a lot of people just
38:08
want to post like the happy things in
38:09
life and I'm like
38:11
I think there's there should be a
38:13
balance between like yes, of course,
38:14
your achievements and the happy things,
38:16
you know, when you do go on vacation or
38:18
whatever, but also the serious things,
38:20
you know, the things that should happen
38:23
in your normal day-to-day life, like
38:25
whether it's struggles in your life or,
38:27
you know, things like your faith and and
38:29
stuff. I I uh
38:32
So, I really try to be like very
38:34
authentic, I guess, in a way online.
38:36
>> Yeah. You you you you're
38:38
you have a denomination is like
38:40
Protestant or
38:42
>> Um
38:43
I
38:45
I
38:46
>> Not not much in particular.
38:47
>> It's interesting. Like I I have tried to
38:50
find a denomination that I align with,
38:52
um
38:53
but like to be totally honest this is
38:56
not an attack on denominations in
38:58
general, but I find that a lot of people
39:01
in the Christian
39:03
like community are being divided by
39:06
that.
39:06
>> are using it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
39:08
>> Yeah. They're kind of dividing They're
39:11
They're They're having a division
39:12
amongst themselves because of like, "Oh,
39:14
you're Orthodox, you should be Baptist."
39:17
And "Oh, you're Protestant, so you
39:19
should be Catholic." Like and it's just
39:20
like
39:21
this big mess and I think that
39:25
um
39:26
I I think that fundamentally like most
39:28
of the beliefs of each denomination
39:31
for the most part, like having faith in
39:33
Jesus and in God and
39:36
following what Jesus taught, I think is
39:38
like the most important thing. And for
39:42
me, I haven't found a church in my area
39:45
that I fully align with.
39:47
Um
39:48
Honestly, the the closest one to that
39:50
that I went to, they were really about
39:51
like uh tithe like money. Like they kind
39:53
of made people feel bad if you don't
39:55
donate, even the people who couldn't
39:56
really afford it. I didn't really like
39:58
that, you know? I think that
40:01
I think that hurts people more than
40:02
anything.
40:03
>> Yeah.
40:04
>> I think I think donating is important if
40:06
you can, but they just uh
40:09
It was every other sentence.
40:11
Pretty bad.
40:11
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I
40:14
I don't I'm not so used to it because we
40:16
don't have that in Orthodox Church, you
40:17
know.
40:18
>> Yeah, tithe and you have something like
40:19
>> No, no, you have you have done donating,
40:21
but
40:22
you you're not all you're not like uh
40:25
they're not like telling you you must
40:26
donate once a month or you know,
40:28
whenever you can, you do by yourself.
40:31
Nobody's telling you, you know.
40:32
>> Yeah. I think like when it comes to like
40:34
a lot of the fundamental beliefs, like I
40:36
do align with a lot of Orthodox
40:38
teachings. Um I I also believe like
40:42
which from
40:44
what I've learned about Orthodoxy is
40:46
like church is a very big thing. Um like
40:48
actually going to church and I think
40:51
my belief with that is that and it's
40:54
biblical is like church is really a
40:56
place where two or more Christians
40:58
gather
40:59
and have a like a Bible study, you know,
41:01
and discuss Christianity together. So,
41:03
that could like be me and my friends and
41:05
like if we're getting together and we're
41:07
like studying the Bible, I I believe
41:09
that's also a church, you know.
41:10
>> Yeah.
41:11
>> Um
41:11
>> It's not the building you want to say,
41:13
yeah, yeah.
41:13
>> Yeah, but like I think the Orthodox
41:16
church is beautiful. Like I've seen it
41:19
so much. I have friends who are Orthodox
41:21
and they're like some of the nicest
41:22
people I've ever met and uh
41:25
you know, I think like
41:27
each denomination, I think the the don-
41:30
denominations that people are called to,
41:32
I I truly believe that that is like
41:36
I I think it's still beautiful, like,
41:39
you know, bringing people to
41:40
Christianity.
41:41
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I also I also have
41:42
Catholic friends and Protestant friends
41:44
who
41:45
>> Yeah.
41:46
>> I I know uh
41:48
we we have differences, but we we we
41:50
talked about it, you know,
41:52
I know the differences, you know, and
41:54
stuff like that.
41:55
>> Yeah.
41:56
>> It doesn't matter. I mean
41:57
>> Yeah.
41:59
Yeah. I I know also some people that
42:01
like if you disagree with their
42:03
denomination at any point, they get like
42:05
so mad. I I don't agree with that cuz
42:08
like even if it's something that you you
42:10
do disagree with, having that
42:11
conversation I think it's important and
42:13
you know, you might influence someone
42:16
you know, to
42:17
see like you know, your views and you
42:19
might bring them closer to God and stuff
42:21
but I think when you bring anger into it
42:23
it's just it's it's the opposite. It's
42:25
what Jesus told us not to do.
42:26
>> Yeah, of course.
42:28
>> And I've met people like that.
42:30
>> [laughter]
42:31
>> I've had conversations with people like
42:32
that. Um
42:34
I actually like posted about a thing on
42:35
my stories the other day that I met a
42:37
Catholic. And like, you know, we were I
42:40
I'm just I guess non-denominational. I
42:42
like to call myself a biblical
42:43
Christian. You know, that's the truth is
42:45
I just I think that all these like
42:47
different denominations when when people
42:49
are hostile about it about it it creates
42:51
division. So I try not to like
42:53
um
42:54
I I try to just follow the Bible the
42:57
best I can.
42:58
>> Yeah,
42:59
well you know that
43:00
those that's one of the differences of
43:03
uh
43:04
of uh you know, sola scriptura the
43:06
following only the Bible or or the
43:09
denomination or the
43:11
uh as as Orthodox or Catholic say
43:13
pre-domi- denomination, you know.
43:15
>> Yeah.
43:15
>> Uh that is the that is the church you
43:17
know, the church comes before the
43:20
the Bible because it was
43:21
>> Yeah.
43:21
>> made before uh the Bible was compiled.
43:24
But those are the differences that that
43:26
usually people talk about, you know.
43:28
>> Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 100% like I and I
43:31
think that
43:32
um
43:34
I I think that
43:36
you know, if you are truly you have that
43:39
relationship with God and Jesus he'll
43:41
speak to you. And uh you'll feel
43:44
you'll feel that connection, you know,
43:46
and I I think that
43:48
fundamentally
43:50
all of them have the same core beliefs
43:52
at the end of the day and I think it's
43:54
it's following that that's real truly
43:56
important.
43:57
>> Yeah.
43:58
>> Um but I love those kinds of
44:00
conversations with people and I was uh I
44:03
I had posted on my stories that I had
44:04
this really awesome like theological
44:07
conversation with a Catholic. Even
44:08
though I'm not Catholic and you know, I
44:10
can have like, you know, my opinion on
44:12
the Bible and he has a different opinion
44:14
because, you know,
44:16
and and uh
44:18
it was such a good conversation and I
44:20
genuinely loved that so much and to me
44:22
that is so wholesome and
44:25
I don't think a lot of people are doing
44:27
that nowadays. It's just sad.
44:29
>> Yeah, if we start to speak about
44:31
those things we we will it will last for
44:33
2 hours this podcast, you know.
44:35
>> [laughter]
44:37
>> Because I I like to I like to talk about
44:39
it also, you know, about
44:41
>> Yeah.
44:42
>> But it's uh it's a long about theology
44:44
and everything, you know, but
44:46
but it will be a very long time.
44:48
>> Yeah. [laughter]
44:49
Me, too. I can go on. I I love that kind
44:52
of conversation.
44:54
But
44:55
Yeah, just ask my friends. They know.
44:57
>> I will I I I will message you some
45:00
some Christian rock metal bands to check
45:04
out, you know, from the '80s, '90s and
45:06
2000s. I have a lot of them on on my
45:09
list, you know. So I will message you
45:11
some some YouTube YouTube videos.
45:14
>> Yeah, please do. I'd love to hear more
45:17
Christian metal bands. I found a
45:18
Christian metal band not too long ago
45:20
and then I found out they were AI.
45:23
>> Oh, okay.
45:23
>> Completely.
45:24
>> [laughter]
45:24
>> I was like and I posted about them too.
45:27
Like I added it to my story and
45:28
everything. I'm like, I found this
45:29
Christian metal band. Guys, they're so
45:31
awesome. And then I got a bunch of DMs
45:32
like, you do know they're AI, right?
45:35
And I'm [laughter] like, what?
45:38
But it's really good and it's like metal
45:41
Christian music is so rare. So
45:44
Why? But
45:46
>> I I will I will give you a lot of
45:48
a lot of bands so
45:50
just to see that it was there was a lot
45:52
of there was a huge scene of it in the
45:54
'80s and the '90s, you know.
45:56
>> Yeah.
45:56
>> So you you will check out. Also death
45:58
metal bands that were Christian or heavy
46:00
metal anything.
46:02
>> Yeah.
46:03
>> Uh yeah.
46:04
>> I also I also think that a lot of people
46:06
are also afraid to have opinions like
46:08
this. And like to kind of
46:10
have like like whether it's a faith or
46:13
or anything like that, any kind of
46:14
opinion of some sort. It's like a lot of
46:16
people are afraid to be put into a
46:18
category cuz they're afraid of getting
46:19
like
46:20
shunned or criticized. Like I've been
46:22
criticized personally for being a fan of
46:24
metal and Christian being a Christian at
46:26
the same time.
46:28
And uh I mean, I don't care, but a lot
46:30
of people I've spoken to have like a you
46:33
know, some kind of conviction or belief
46:35
and then they just don't talk about it
46:37
ever because they're afraid of
46:39
judgement.
46:40
>> Where where
46:41
where I live, a lot of the monks, you
46:43
know, in the monasteries
46:45
>> Uh-huh.
46:45
>> were also metal heads or or punks when
46:48
they when they were young, you know? So,
46:50
they they still listen to that kind of
46:52
music. So, it's a
46:53
it's I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I
46:54
I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I
46:56
Uh here it was never about it, you know?
46:57
They you you you you you you you you you
46:58
you you you you you you you you you you
46:58
you you you you you you you you you you
46:59
you you you you you you you you you you
46:59
you you you you
47:00
I mean, I don't know. It's
47:02
it's usually about
47:04
probably in the moment, you know, when
47:06
the locally, probably. I don't know. I
47:08
don't know.
47:09
>> Yeah. I think it is an American thing. I
47:11
I noticed like
47:12
in general, um like an it's a North
47:15
American thing. I think that a lot of
47:18
um
47:20
people it's like if you have a different
47:21
opinion, a lot of people get offended
47:23
over that.
47:24
>> Yeah.
47:24
>> You know? Uh I was actually having this
47:26
conversation not too long I actually
47:28
like at Rockville, I was having this
47:29
conversation. I was like, you can't get
47:31
offended over this kind of stuff, guys.
47:32
It's just not cool.
47:33
>> Yeah.
47:34
>> Um so,
47:36
that's also why I'm very vocal about it.
47:39
It's like it should be normal to talk
47:41
about your faith and your beliefs.
47:42
>> Yeah. Great Great to talk Great to talk
47:45
about it.
47:46
>> Yeah.
47:47
>> That's why I asked you. I know that you
47:48
are sincere about it.
47:50
>> Yeah.
47:51
>> Okay. What's What What are your future
47:54
plans?
47:55
If you if you have some
47:58
long-term or short-term plans
48:00
your music.
48:01
>> Um, I
48:03
I I of course like I plan
48:07
to be in a band one day. Like as soon as
48:09
I can like that opportunity arises or
48:11
anything I would love to be in a band.
48:14
A big also reason why I haven't been in
48:16
a band is because of my immigration
48:18
process in the US. It's been Um, they
48:21
they kind of like make you go through
48:23
this process to to
48:25
>> do music.
48:25
>> Uh-huh, okay.
48:26
>> Um, which has been crazy. So I can't
48:28
tour. I can't actually leave America
48:30
under the visa I'm under. Which is why
48:32
I'm applying for a new visa right now
48:34
actually.
48:35
Um, but yeah. So I haven't been a part
48:38
of a band for that reason too.
48:40
So hopefully soon once everything there
48:42
is sorted out and everything works out I
48:45
would love to be a part of a band. I
48:47
have opportunities lined up and then I
48:49
just you know, waiting on that. You
48:51
know, God's timing I guess.
48:54
Um,
48:55
and then I uh
48:58
I would love to be a part of like a
48:59
metal band in general. Um, if I were to
49:03
start my own band I think I would truly
49:05
start like a like a Christian metal band
49:08
cuz that is just something that I feel
49:10
like
49:11
is still pretty rare.
49:13
Um, and it really like resonates with me
49:16
genuinely.
49:18
But I I don't I I I don't sing.
49:22
>> Yeah.
49:22
>> And I don't I don't play guitar well
49:24
enough.
49:25
>> Yeah, but you but you can you can make
49:27
you can drum and you can do the lyrics,
49:29
you know, and you can your own band with
49:32
some someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:34
>> Yeah, and then
49:36
>> Yeah, and then I also just I think
49:39
anything in regards to music I'd be so
49:41
happy doing like as a like a career in
49:44
general like pursuing that. That's what
49:46
I'm pursuing is anything in regards to
49:48
drumming and music. Like I'm
49:50
so happy. That's just my thing. Music is
49:53
my thing and uh um
49:55
you know, I've also I also have this
49:57
plan on doing like a course
50:00
for people who want to learn like
50:02
how to play
50:04
like double kick and stuff, you know,
50:06
something that I wish I had. You know, I
50:08
instead scoped out YouTube like never
50:10
before.
50:11
>> You you you're the best in the in the in
50:13
the double I mean, amazing.
50:15
Very very very fast. I I cannot do I
50:17
cannot do that fast. You you're
50:20
>> Thank you. I mean, I I I wouldn't say
50:21
I'm the best. There are so many
50:23
incredibly talented people and I'm still
50:25
like mastering some crazy techniques
50:27
that I'd love to learn that I learned
50:29
from like um
50:31
Austin Archey
50:33
from Lorna Shore and and um
50:36
also the drummer for All That Remains. I
50:38
forget his name. I'm so bad with names.
50:41
>> Check
50:42
Check Check
50:43
Travis Scott from from Judas Priest.
50:46
>> Yes, Judas Priest is a good one, too.
50:48
They're like
50:49
>> him.
50:50
>> Yeah.
50:50
>> Yeah.
50:50
>> Yeah. Um yeah, he's also insanely
50:53
talented. So I uh
50:55
I'm studying like
50:57
you know, even better technique like,
50:59
you know, I I've kind of always
51:01
uh I I really I guess mastered swivel in
51:03
a way and then I just kind of stuck with
51:05
that for so long, but I'm working on a
51:07
course to do that and um
51:10
help other people like get their foot in
51:12
the door with that.
51:13
>> You you you can make the course like how
51:15
to drum fast with high heels.
51:17
>> [laughter]
51:18
>> Right. Yeah.
51:21
Um yeah.
51:22
Um
51:23
>> Amazing.
51:24
>> Maybe maybe the the um
51:26
like those badass like guy drummers who
51:29
like start drumming in heels. No, that
51:31
that would be like [laughter] crazy.
51:32
>> No, they they will be they will probably
51:34
be in cowboy cowboy boots, you know.
51:37
>> Right? That I mean
51:39
country metal.
51:40
>> Yeah.
51:42
>> Not a bad genre. Not a bad genre. I've
51:45
heard some country metal. I'm like,
51:47
"Huh,
51:48
this [laughter] is interesting. I
51:49
actually like it, but yeah."
51:51
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:52
>> Um but yeah, I spent like literally my
51:55
like entire childhood like from
51:58
I guess
52:00
12 and a half was when I got my double
52:02
pedals.
52:03
Um and growing up I would spend like 6
52:06
years in my basement practicing
52:09
double kick and like every technique I
52:11
could and just getting that as like down
52:15
packed as possible.
52:17
Um and so
52:20
I had a lot of trial and error, things
52:22
that took me a long time to learn that I
52:24
kind of want to help people like speed
52:27
through. Like I don't you know, instead
52:29
of going through the 10 years of like
52:31
trying to master and like figure out
52:33
like how to like piecing together all
52:36
this information to get that perfect
52:38
technique. It's like you know, I know it
52:40
all. I'll just like dump it on you and
52:42
then you know, just learn the most
52:45
important parts, right? And it it just
52:48
speed lines that. And that's like kind
52:49
of what I'm also working towards
52:51
is that course
52:53
um
52:54
in general and I also plan on like live
52:57
streaming
52:58
and stuff in the future drumming. A lot
53:00
of people ask me about that and I'm I
53:03
want to do that like truly. I need
53:05
probably a better like set up than I
53:07
have here. It's kind of complicated to
53:09
do it um in the room I'm in now.
53:13
Um
53:14
so
53:15
planning on moving soon and when I do
53:19
that's going to be the first thing I'm
53:20
going to do is streaming cuz
53:23
I really want to do that.
53:24
>> Yeah, you can you you can do it by I
53:26
know Flo- Florida is famous for for the
53:29
pool so you can do by something by a
53:31
pool, you know.
53:32
>> [laughter]
53:32
>> Yeah.
53:34
That would be fun.
53:36
>> Yeah.
53:37
>> You know, like after a sweaty song like
53:39
Lamb of God
53:41
>> Yeah.
53:41
>> for 4 minutes, you know, it's just like,
53:43
"Okay, need a break." And you jump in
53:45
the pool.
53:45
>> [laughter]
53:48
[gasps]
53:48
>> Okay, I do want to ask you about what
53:50
kind of drums you are you you have and
53:53
you're playing.
53:55
>> Um I use right now for the most part
53:57
I've been using the Roland VAD706.
54:01
And it's an electronic drum kit and
54:04
I I originally got it because I lived in
54:06
an apartment for a long time and they
54:09
don't like noise.
54:10
>> Yeah.
54:10
>> Um they you know they don't like
54:12
>> Imagine Imagine.
54:14
>> Yeah. So, I got an electronic kit for
54:17
that reason and honestly it's made like
54:19
recording covers really easy cuz
54:21
I used to do it the old school way where
54:23
you hook up like 20 different
54:24
microphones everywhere and you put that
54:26
into a
54:28
DAW and
54:30
what is it audio interface and then a
54:32
DAW and then all through that and it was
54:34
crazy. It was kind of annoying, but it
54:37
was really fun playing on an acoustic
54:39
kit. And
54:41
I have a beautiful acoustic kit.
54:44
I have my own line of symbols from
54:46
Red symbols
54:48
>> Mhm.
54:48
>> which is an Australian symbol brand and
54:51
then I
54:53
I have a Sonor AQ2.
54:55
>> Cool.
54:55
>> Really glittery silver one that I love.
54:58
And I just I had to put it away for a
55:00
little bit since we moved and here too I
55:02
also can't be too loud in this house cuz
55:04
there's like no sound isolation. And I
55:08
live with my family right now, so try
55:10
not to like make them and my dogs go
55:13
deaf. So,
55:14
>> [laughter]
55:14
>> we're here and it's beautiful. It's
55:16
literally been like the best
55:19
investment
55:20
>> Yeah.
55:20
>> when it came to that because it looks
55:22
like an acoustic kit, but
55:24
>> Yeah. Yeah.
55:25
>> it's so much quieter and makes recording
55:27
easy and
55:29
so now it's like when I play live like I
55:30
bring my acoustic kit. And sometimes I'm
55:34
home alone. I can sit on my acoustic kit
55:36
and play a couple covers. I did that not
55:37
too long ago, but well, maybe like a
55:40
little bit over a year ago actually now
55:42
that I think about it.
55:43
But, yeah.
55:45
>> I have
55:46
I have only acoustic
55:49
two drum kits premier premier drums. I
55:52
have
55:53
premier cabria and premier Olympia and
55:56
uh
55:57
and they're both good. They're both
55:58
great, but only acoustics. I cannot drum
56:01
at home, so I got to go to to the
56:03
studio.
56:04
>> Yeah.
56:05
>> Yeah.
56:05
>> Yeah, I've thought about getting a
56:07
studio. I I might just do that in the
56:08
future if the house that I move into
56:11
like I can't
56:13
>> Yeah.
56:13
>> um play my acoustic kit, but um studios
56:17
help and I've heard premier drums are
56:19
like really good. So, that's really
56:20
cool.
56:21
>> Good good. Yeah.
56:22
>> Yeah.
56:23
Um
56:24
but yeah. Up until that point I get a
56:28
studio or a little more of a sound
56:30
isolated room,
56:31
I have my baby here and it's served me
56:34
so well.
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>> Yeah.
56:35
>> So,
56:35
>> Yeah.
56:36
>> Yeah, it's great.
56:37
>> Okay. Okay, Jaelah.
56:39
We should finish up. It was a great
56:42
great talk.
56:44
Thank you. Thank you for this uh
56:46
long interview. And uh and we we touched
56:50
touched upon every subject. So, thank
56:52
thanks for that.
56:53
>> Yeah, of course. Thank you, Rush.
56:56
Honestly, I had an amazing time and I uh
57:00
genuinely love this kind of conversation
57:02
like truly. I I love
57:04
deep conversations about this like even
57:07
touching on music and um
57:09
faith and everything. I genuinely had a
57:12
great time. So, thank you for having me
57:14
on your podcast.
57:15
>> Yeah. Thanks. Thank Thanks to you for
57:17
accepting uh and uh and I will write you
57:20
some some stuff that I that I want you
57:22
to to to check, you know. I will message
57:24
you.
57:25
>> do. Yes, please do cuz I'm looking for
57:28
band ideas and like bands to listen to.
57:31
Yeah.
57:32
thank you so much. I hope you have a
57:34
great day.
57:35
>> Yeah. You too have the great rest of the
57:38
day. We have uh
57:41
It will be night here for
57:43
half an hour.
57:46
It's It's
57:48
It's almost 8:00 p.m. here.
57:50
>> Oh, no way. That's crazy. I I remember
57:53
you saying like the I couldn't figure
57:55
out the time zones, right?
57:56
>> 6-hour difference, yeah. Yeah.
57:58
>> Yeah. Um it's 1:34 p.m. for me right
58:01
now. So,
58:02
it's pretty like it's the afternoon for
58:04
me, but I hope you have a good night
58:07
then.
58:07
>> [laughter]
58:08
>> Instead, and um I'll talk to you soon.
58:11
Thank you so much again.
58:12
>> Talk soon. Thank you. God bless you.
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>> God bless you. Bye-bye.
58:15
>> Bye-bye.
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