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on a chilly day in one of America's most turbulent Urban Landscapes a seemingly routine morning took a violent turn this
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story revolves around a crew in Chicago with a reputation so volatile that
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they're sometimes described as the most feared in recent memory anyone familiar with the city's dark history underworld
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secrets and the complex tapestry of organized crime recognizes the
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unrelenting cycle that shapes local Street factions yet few few Tales hit with the same raw impact as The Saga of
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a particularly ruthless group sometimes known simply by a numeral 800 the city's
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South Side has long shouldered a history linked to Crime families notorious kingpins and more real Mafia stories
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than one might imagine here entire neighborhoods have become Arenas where grudges last for decades alliances shift
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in the blink of an eye and Infamous syndicates entrench themselves behind codes of loyalty orbit Trail Underneath
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It All Is One recurring truth violence begets violence this is the story of 800
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a group that seemed determined to clash with nearly every corner of Chicago's Street World more significantly it's a
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narrative about how a sudden pursuit of power and easy money ranging from scuffles over jackets to Armed robberies
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would eventually alter countless lives leading to shocking double crosses and an unforgettably Brazen Heist
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a brewing storm the origins of a feared crew if one roams around 61st in Cottage
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Grove they might notice subtle hints of an old order buildings replaced by modern developments a store chain
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standing on land once occupied by cramped complexes but these streets were the Cradle of a faction that aimed to
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carve out its own Niche among Chicago's crime families known broadly as 800 the
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set emerged from a backdrop of maniac Mickey cobras a branch of a bigger affiliation that has storied allegiances
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and feuds stretching back into the city's dark history sometime in the late 2000s local authorities began noticing
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that 800 then going by multiple nicknames such as 800 ym or Diddy Grove
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had formed from the same neighborhoods where older outfits once stood tall people who resided near 61st to 63rd
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spanning from Cottage Grove to Drexel found themselves living alongside a group that carried a name and a story
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thick with consequences Within These blocks swirling gang wars and daily struggles gave birth to a generation
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that saw True Crime unfold on its own doorsteps at first 800 apparently worked
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alongside several other sets forging alliances to consolidate power but the new guard had no qualms about fighting
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just about anyone known to label themselves as ebk everybody killer 800's
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members would square off with anybody Define in them accounts described their approach as unbelievably confrontational
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from the Gangster Disciples to the Black Disciples Vice Lords to the black PE stones and even other subsets of their
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own original Alliance there were few safe havens left they offered fleeting
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alliances here and there but those compacts rarely endured in short the
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group decided that no adversary was out of bounds when they parted ways from 051
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Young Money another local Collective due in part to 051 forging new bonds with a
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different set 800 openly claimed a position of animosity toward practically everyone else locals concluding that
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800's distrust and hostility knew no limits came to describe them with words like most hated on certain forums
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dedicated to Chicago's underworld Secrets some folks even joke that the group seemed determined to pick fights
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with entire city blocks at once but those jokes masked genuine concern tals
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about 800 painted a picture of brazen robberies shootouts and an utter disregard for forging alliances that
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might keep them out of escalating conflicts if ever there was a definition of dark history in the making this was
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it early tragedies losing friends and forging a
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path before 800 Rose to infamy the group weathered a devastating series of losses
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which seemed to fuel fuel their thirst for payback in 2009 one of the earliest
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recorded major tragedies took place a local affiliate named Tommy Williams was gunned down supposedly by an individual
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known as Koo from a rival set called Mech Creek investigators alleged that
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the motive involved feuding between local factions a spat that began over something trivial yet turned deadly the
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entire confrontation Illustrated the razor thin lines separating grievances from hom side in these corners of
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Chicago Tommy's killing sent aftershocks through the entire crew he was 18 just
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on the edge of adulthood the Heartbreak of seeing a vibrant life cut short wo
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into 800's Fabric and marked a fateful Turning Point Koo eventually received a
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formidable prison sentence over half a century locked up in a court case that revealed the complexity of Chicago's
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interwoven alliances members from 800 though did not see much relief in K's
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incarceration the city's real Mafia stories have taught them prison or not
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nothing truly closes the chapter on a lost comrade in 2011 yet another Grim
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event struck an affiliate nicknamed Diddy lost his life to gun violence near
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the 6,100 Block of South Cottage Grove Avenue his passing triggered an
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outpouring of grief people in 800 began calling their stomping grounds by names
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that paid homage to him Diddy Grove DMG Diddy Maniac gang insisting they'd keep
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his legacy alive the music that trickled out of those blocks for years to come
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echoed this vow in many tracks Diddy's name became a rallying cry something
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that made the pain real while giving impetus for future retaliation tragedy
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struck again in 2012 this time in an even more horrifying manner known as
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olhe head a man called Terry Brown died in a triple homicide the exact details
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of that Grim Knight centered on allegations over a traded jacket were so harrowing that anyone reading about it
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felt a shudder one moment Brown and a few others were relaxing at a friend's
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place the next they were ambushed in a hail storm of bullets 30 gunshots ended
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Brown's life even more appalling the shooter apparently a longtime acquaintance had arrived with the
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intention of retrieving a piece of clothing and it escalated into a triple murder this monstrous event not only
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stunned 800 but also the broader public who couldn't believe an argument over a Peril could end so brutally at this
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point 800's grievance list was mounting multiple Beloved Community figures gone
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each death accompanied by sorrow and a thirst for reprisal with Feud still a
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flame it became only a matter of time before the group carried out its own wave of violence starting around the
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early 2010s rumors spread about shootouts involving 800 violent retribution and internal
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codes that overshadowed any sense of compromise saddled with heartbreak a
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strong sense of betrayal and the Relentless pursuit of payback 800 members seemed prepared to do anything
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to protect their own dot exclamation mark question mark shift into high gear shootouts and
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Rising tensions by 2013 800 had emerged as a
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contender in the realm of Unsolved Mysteries and Infamous syndicates that
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year the group turned up the heat fueled by unresolved feuds especially with M
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Creek the same faction some suspected in Tommy's murder another name that surfaced was FBG Duck a rising rapper
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from 63rd in St Lawrence who was part of a group of Gangster Disciples stories
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circulated that 800 Affiliates shot up Duck's residents then taunted him onal social platforms boasting that nothing
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had been done in retaliation shortly afterward an 800 affiliate known as Big Mike found
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himself caught up in retribution he ended up paralyzed shot in the legs allegedly by Rivals from St
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Lawrence or possibly by an entirely different faction though the exact details remain murky the outcome was
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subpar for 800 on one side they had successfully threatened a prominent figure from another block bragging that
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they forced him to move yet the response left a key member of 800 wheelchair
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bound instances like this only fueled speculation in local circles 800 would
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do anything to settle disputes but so with their adversaries countless True
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Crime discussions sprouted about who shot first who pulled the trigger and which side was at fault also it was
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around this period that 800 was rumored to have carried out its first Revenge killing or backdoor hit a man nicknamed
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fish from M Creek was discovered lifeless in a park battered to death in an incident that some believed was over
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pocket change the brutality of beating someone rather than employing gunfire and the alleged mental challenges that
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fish was said to have stoked an outcry but 800 Affiliates showed no pity even
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referencing the victim in their lyrics the notion that fish's killer might have been a figure named pyro connected to
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800 gave them a dark Mystique further proof that nobody was safe from their
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reach however like a grim twist pyro himself would be killed in almost
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identical circumstances years later triggering fresh rounds of deadly
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disputes already the calendars in 2013 and 2014 were littered with
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homicides social media and Forum posts only heightened tensions as members of Riv alets taunted each other publicly
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the arrow was Laden with unsolved shootings rumored alliances and widely spread suspicion the circle of violence
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encompassed neighborhoods like jaro City and Tik World culminating in block parties morphing into Crossfire scenes
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in one devastating episode a young woman with ties to a rival group was gunned down at a gathering leaving behind a
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shattered family the local chatter pinned the blame on 800 intensifying
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rivalries that would continue to Fester adversaries on every corner
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breakdowns and new Wars as the years Advanced 800 was
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practically at odds with all sections neighboring their Turf even limited alliances once upheld fell apart
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completely they had severed ties with 051 young money when that group joined forces with a set 800
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despised then fresh spats arose following the slaying of pyro supposedly
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at the hands of M Obi this deepened the bitterness because pyro was seen as an integral figure in
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800's roster the entire structure of the local underworld seemed riddled with
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alliances that formed just as quickly as they disintegrated one of the more notorious
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episodes in the city's dark history was the funeral shooting of a well-known mob affiliate mourners gathered to pay
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respects but in a city where organized crime and true crime stories frequently overlap not even funerals are guaranteed
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sanctuaries on that afternoon multiple attackers arrived with automatic Weaponry unloading bullets on the
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assembly leaving half a dozen individuals injured the entire tragedy was dissected like a real Mafia story
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some believed it was orchestrated by one formidable faction While others strongly suspected 800 might have had a role
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speculation soared that they had shown up to unleash Carnage on vulnerable Rivals when it comes to underworld
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secrets in Chicago the rumor mill never rests the complexities were staggering
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think about it 800 was in disputes with the biggest names in local Street Warfare St Lawrence Affiliates oblock
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600 or whomever else they once had friction with meanwhile they fanned the
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Flames of tension by showing open disrespect for rival sets dropping gang signs upside down or referencing murders
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in their tracks observers soon labeled 800 as crash dummies a term indic ating
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recklessness that overshadowed any hint of subtlety or rational planning some of the Region's biggest rap artists had
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famously boasted of their run-ins with 800 but whether you see them as boogey men or misguided youth seeking identity
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800 undeniably existed in that precarious space where each day might lead to Savage Warfare or a random
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confrontation with the law. exclamation mark question mark the rise of two fearsome
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individuals within 800's swirling environment
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certain figures loomed larger than the group itself two names in particular Lil
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Tuan and Lil fats gleaned their own brand of infamy that would soon make them legendary for all the wrong reasons
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known for brandishing firearms in countless live streams or bold stunts where they literally taunted Rivals to
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confront them face to face these two embodied the brashness associated with 800 more than anybody else their
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exploits included trading gunfire in broad daylight and messing with neighborhood strongholds to lure out
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enemies who dared not be out in the open Lil Twan whose real name was antoan Montgomery wore a tattoo proclaiming a
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violent sentiment toward local authorities this Infamous ink read cpdk
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essentially labeling him as a wouldbe foe of law enforcement meanwhile DeAndre Jennings widely known as Lil fats
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mirrored that same hostility boasting an apparent record of vicious Feats so
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social media fed the rising hypee each upload signaled a potential conflict with rival factions or a runin with the
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police encouraged by the memory of Fallen allies such as pyro both men
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seemed determined to carry on with a vengeance. question mark exclamation mark stories circulated that Lil fats
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roamed enemy blocks on foot posting taunts and daring Rivals to challenge him one anecdote told of him videotaping
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a meet and greet with an opposing faction's members to provoke them brandishing deadly weapons possibly the
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most jaw-dropping was an instance when fats suspecting that someone had shorted him on a deal threatened lethal harm on
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these same public streams he recounted stories of brazen robberies he had committed sometimes taking items from
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vulnerable people or publicly humiliating them for a span these two
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were Unstoppable hostile messages between them and other sets from faceworld to murder town soared the
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rumor that FATZ had five notches on his belt which he casually mentioned on live streams incubated an aura of fear
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whether it was an exaggeration or raw truth didn't matter people believed it and that alone was enough to amplify his
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menacing Aura deadly handshakes the backdoor
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Traditions when newcomers or neighboring gang sets heard 800 was open to a trade
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caution lights blinked across the city the group had a track record for proposing deals then murdering the very
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people who agreed to meet with them in keeping with the style of notorious kingpins they redefined the concept of a
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handshake because it sometimes came with a bullet one of the first verified examples took place in January 2020
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there was talk about an exchange of weapons with an affiliate from a set called murdertown a man known as CIO
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allegedly Lil Tuan and Lil fat set up a meet with him surmising that something was off 800 Affiliates apparently
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decided to take no chances in the aftermath CIO ended up dead online
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speculations soared that he was actually set up by these 800 members purely to take his firearm this brand of betrayal
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rightly earned them the label snakes on music tracks references to leaving a
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back door open became a grim calling card a near identical event happened 2 months later now involving a teen known
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as Bando hothead from 069 face world the plot was almost a copycat lure him with
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talk of a gun trade then gun him down he was found shot multiple times including
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wounds that suggested a sudden Point Blank ambush in the weeks that followed
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images surfaced of 800 members allegedly flashing around band's stolen weapon
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some even displayed it in music videos seemingly proud of their cunning this was organized ized crime at a personal
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level not about smuggling Contraband or forging big illicit Enterprises but
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about luring unsuspecting individuals and executing them for personal gain by
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now 800 had evolved into the widespread face of dark history in Chicago's Street
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Scene Rivals were not the only ones alarmed allies too recognized that any
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perceived slight risked being repaid in blood this approach might not have soared to the level of Mafia Family
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boasting code of honor pacts but it drove fear across entire neighborhoods
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by 2020 their reputation was so Sinister that some individuals literally refus to
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do business even on the intangible realm of Internet forums jokes started don't
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trade Firearms with 800 unless you're hoping to end up as the next cautionary
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Tale the loss of a crew leading voice out of all 800's personalities
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boss smooth garnered the most respect musically he had carved out a space in the local rap scene weaving harrowing
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stories about life and death on the south side with an aggressive style and unwavering stance he was on the cusp of
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broader recognition then while sitting in the passenger seat of a car stationed at a
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gas station a hail of bullets took him from this world in 2020 some said he was
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shot over 30 times by attackers armed with semi-automatic rifles friends and
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supporters reeled from the shock in the blink of an eye the group's best known mouthpiece the one who might have
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carried the voice of 800 to the mainstream vanished rumors erupted
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instantly pitting blame on sets like faceworld or Murder Town or perhaps even
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a previously Allied faction the sense of Vengeance reached a fever pitch among
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those who seemed most deeply rattled was Lil FATZ who had been close close to boss smooth the group's hopes for a more
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stable presence in the rap world had evaporated now more than ever 800 seemed
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determined to burn every bridge in sight if it meant avenging one of their
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own from internet taunts to real life
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standoffs few episodes capture 800's Brazen approach more than an online spat
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that threatened to evolve into real life Carnage one random user on a local forum
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started ch Ching Lil fats directly claiming he would meet and settle their differences in a shootout at first
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observers believed it was a hoax then fats logged on also displaying Readiness to turn words into an actual
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confrontation the participants openly broadcast their Meetup spot apparently
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82nd and Drexel Forum Watchers stood by with baited breath worrying they might
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witness a homicide unfold live via the Internet curiously local police
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bulletins recorded gunshots near that area around the time of the rumored Showdown some believed it was just a
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coincidence While others suspected the faceof had indeed occurred albeit
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inconclusively still the fact that an armed gang member like fats was so willing to entertain a random online
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Challenger underscored the group's unpredictable stance nobody could possibly guess how far they might go to
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protect their street cred or save face the Grand Illusion a daring and feal
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Heist amid the chaos a single day in November 2021 would overshadow every
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other Twisted anecdote in 800's history turning the group into the stuff of True Crime legend that morning Lil fats and
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Lil Tuan joined forces with two Affiliates from Noy gang 079 specifically individuals known
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informally as Dewey four and spook to plant a massive score they had gleaned
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knowledge of a routine deposit arriving at a well-known Bank featuring an armored truck filled with thousands of
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dollars if it succeeded it would resemble the elaborate schemes in Notorious kingpins documentaries a quick
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In-N-Out job reaping potentially over a 100 Grand at around 10:30 a.m. they
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observed the targeted vehicle approach a Bank of America branch security employees began refilling ATMs with
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fresh stacks of currency seizing the moment the 800 crew sprang into action one participant towered over
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a female guard trying to rest the valuables away others emerged from the getaway car brandishing pistols gunshots
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erupted the guard was fatally struck and another official was wounded some said
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the criminals intended to reduce casualty risks others believe the timeline was so rushed that everything
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deteriorated into Mayhem in seconds what makes this truly tragic is that the
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guard who died was relatively new on the job and had just been posting about her optimism for a brighter future she lost
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her life on the spot the criminals meanwhile walked away with nothing in
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their hurried attempt to grab the container they abandoned the plan and fled surveillance footage captured them
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dashing back to their vehicle then unbelievably as if the day's violence
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wasn't enough the group apparently decided to rob a neighboring establishment a phone store netting
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random Electronics before hightailing it again soon after their stolen vehicle
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broke down forcing them to hop into another ride but that plan also crumbled
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police began to converge and at some point the 800 Duo and their Associates found themselves pinned a horrifying
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realization dawned in the midst of all this confusion its suspected that the 800 pair turned on their two accomplice
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gunning them down in a final betrayal the site of betrayal was near the 8,700
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Block of South Sagen where multiple Witnesses recalled hearing shots seeing a wrecked SUV and glimpsing two men
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fleeing the scene Dewey reputedly a rising local artist with music garnering
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Buzz was among those left dead the group had once been close some said they were
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even cousins but evidently under the swirling chaos of that morning's Fiasco
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800's thirst for either secrecy or immediate appropriation of all spoils
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LED them to kill their own with police on the perimeter Lil Tuan and Lil fats
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retreated into a house instructing the occupants to summon law enforcement by
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the time a SWAT team arrived they were swiftly apprehended the stolen cell phones from the store were found inside
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one of the vehicles and Ballistic evidence connected their firearms to the spots where each bullet casing was
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found aftermath where the street ends
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three people had lost their lives in a mere matter of hours all in the name of an impossible Heist that netted no money
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the toll included a hard-working guard a friend turned victim and another associate who might have once believed
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that a union with 800 was beneficial the headlines exploded and in the realm of
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local real Mafia stories it became a cautionary Saga about how fleeting these
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illusions of grand robbery can be B in jail developments unfolded like the
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final segment of a grim film speculation arose that Lil fats had pointed the
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blame for the female guard's death on the two men who were gunned down thereby giving a statement that placed
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responsibility on the deceased meanwhile both fats and Lil Tuan stood at the
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crossroads between potential convictions for triple homicide attempted murder
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armed robbery and a slew of Affiliated charges they faced an Avalanche of
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evidence including ballistic tests eyewitness accounts and security footage
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their tattoos social media postings and known animosity toward others might not
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even matter by the time prosecutors aligned the essential facts further
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rumors circulated about scuffles in detention with relatives of the victim seeking Vengeance or personal
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retribution various accounts indicated that 800's membership might have severed ties with the two suspects
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labeling them as rats for cooperating with investigators even if that cooperation was minimal local
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adversaries gleefully derided them saying first they kill their own and now
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they turn on each other the once dreaded Duo discovered that the Code of Silence
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on the streets offered no refuge in a place where every single action was
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monitored a lingering Legacy was it all in vain
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when one reflects on 800's Origins Tommy's demise the Heartbreak over Diddy
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the triple homicide that claimed allhe head and all those countless shootouts one might Ponder what led them here they
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hadn't dominated a global organized crime ring or become top tier notorious kingpins laundering Millions instead the
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group's primary currency seemed to be dread and betrayal they reigned over small enclaves in Chicago's Labyrinth of
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Waring factions but each year fresh tragedies hammered them from every side
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their internal motto may have been to show no mercy forging a fearsome identity that local Rivals dreaded
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encountering yet ironically time after time they inflicted as much harm upon
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themselves through either double crosses or chaotic robbery attempts that ended in Fiasco they took from their own so to
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speak in the name of personal gain or momentary Advantage at the core of it
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all one detail stands out the neighborhoods that spawned 800 were
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riddled with poverty and resource disparities where experiencing theft or shootings was heartbreakingly
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normalized younger Affiliates looked to older guys for guidance only to see them murdered or encircled by the law others
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turned to local rap as a potential exit strategy hoping to replicate the path of certain chicago-based hipop stars who
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Rose from adversity but for every aspirational lyric there seemed to be a bullet with an unsuspecting name on it
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by the time 800 had scorched every possible Alliance the only fate waiting was indefinite incarceration or the
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grave the crime families and Infamous syndicates that once clearly demarcated
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territories in Chicago's older gangster era at least followed a certain protocol but here lines were blurred Unsolved
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Mysteries about who backo whom mounted factions that once fought side by side
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collapsed overnight deaths triggered brutal retribution which ignited more Bloodshed it was an endless loop of
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tragedy and though the city at large yearned for an end to such hostility each new generation seemed to interpret
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cruelty as a survival tool that reality has cast a somber Shadow over the
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Region's underworld secrets for far too long the final
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Reckoning the final Court outcomes for Lil Tuan Lil fats and any others involved D have yet to be fully
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determined by official verdicts but the evidence compiled suggests an avalanche of potential convictions by the time
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they're done these individuals will likely spend lifetimes Behind Bars unless legal maneuvering technicalities
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or lesser charges unexpectedly shortened sentences even so the memory of that
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fateful day when an armored truck guard lost her life Associates turned on each other in a final betrayal and lines of
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Allegiance were revocably shattered will probably Loom over Chicago's violent
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lore now the legacy of 800 stands as a Monumental expose for True Crime
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Scholars fans of dark history and those fascinated by real Mafia stories however
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curious readers or viewers must remember that beyond the spectacle real people have faced irrevocable loss for families
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of the deceased there is no relief no rewriting the violent moments that tore
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apart the their lives The Narrative while undeniably captivating to Outsiders is a saga drenched in genuine
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pain and organized crime gone astray one can only hope that in this swirling
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cycle someone ultimately grasps the futility of it all people who grew up
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idolizing the Relentless approach or the wet and Reckless Persona of 800 might
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see how quickly that path took them to ruin there is no redemption in the Heartbreak of mothers siblings and
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children left behind behind there is no satisfying payoff in a botched robbery that ends with multiple bodies on the
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asphalt and there is no genuine respect gleaned from betraying those who once fought by your side still for as long as
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cycles of violence Remain unchecked the city's underworld Secrets will continue
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to spawn heartbreak confusion and Unsolved Mysteries yet the name 800 will
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live on in local lore echoing in stories about Infamous syndicates that soared to terrifying Heights only
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to crash in the same Savage fashion they inflicted on others the Betrayal that marred every deal they made remains a
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testament to the hollow of these Ambitions perhaps that is the key lesson here in these neighborhoods any
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illusions of power or retribution carry a massive price tag the price is
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measured in an endless line of funerals extended prison sentences and traumatized survivors left to pick up
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scraps without closure or Justice if there's a moral hidden in this true crime tapestry it might be that Streets
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Run on More Than Just Guns and bravado there's also an undeniable undercurrent
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of grief whether or not future Generations learn from these wounds is unclear but let this Chronicle serve as
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a caution there are no real Victors when trust erodes loyalty dissolves and each
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day threatens to be your last 800 soared into Chicago's ravaged SP Spotlight only
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to consume itself from within undone by the very tactics that once made them so
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feared exclamation mark question mark even in reflection one can still hear
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the echo of all that was lost a string of close-knit Affiliates the sense of possibility for those who believed they
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had better tomorrows an armored guard building a fresh start and the intangible promise of a path out of the
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cycle whether you label this tale as one more example of organized crime a Savage
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dark history footnote or another brutal chapter in real Mafia stories it is at
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its heart a tragedy where every twist bleeds heartbreak and every choice leads
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to a loss conclusion thus ends The Saga of one of
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Chicago's most Relentless Crews entangled in an endless war with itself and its surroundings the unraveling of
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alliances and the Savage betrayals paint a stark portrait of what can can happen when desperation ego and hardened Hearts
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Collide in the Underworld Secrets swirling through the city's South Side
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the 800 story underlines an age-old truth pure chaos begets only more
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destruction this is the cautionary realm of True Crime where innocence is devoured lines blur and nobody escapes
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unscathed ultimately 800's Legacy stands out not only for its brazenness but for
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the heartache woven into every choice between illusions of grandeur and the brutal outcomes that sealed their Fates
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it's a path that demands Reflection from anyone dabbling in the city's extensive dark history Chicago has housed many
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notorious kingpins and Infamous syndicates but rarely does one see a crew that in the span of a few years
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faced so many heartbreaks and ultimately self-destructed in near cinematic fashion may this Chronicle of 800 remain
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a permanent reminder that the street life grants no immunity from The Bleak end points of death betrayal or prison
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bars ultimately these are the only Awards guaranteed by a fraught existence
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in which solidarity unravels faster than any stolen money can be spent there is no rewriting such cataclysmic endings
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the Bloodshed and the tears spilled are permanent haunting Testaments to a dark history shaped by short-lived alliances
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and deadly feuds anyone seeking an exit from these perilous Urban Battlegrounds might hold
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on to the hope that there is a more promising route an opportunity to avoid fueling the cycle that has already
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claimed so many but for those who embrace the identity of the next crime family or underworld secret the 800
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tragedy stands as Testament what is swn in the shadows inevitably comes home to
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roost perhaps that Stark reality more than anything else is 800's final and
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most chilling Legacy