The creator siblings discuss adapting to new platforms and building community over chasing metrics
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We are Wasabi Brothers and we love each other's, right
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Yes, yeah, there it is. You guys make content together, but you also have your own individual things too
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So how would you describe the vibe of your individual content? Well, Aaron has more of a just like fly on the wall kind of content
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Just filming all of his life. He's doing daily vlogs. Yes, he's the lifestyle vlogger as they say
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I feel like Alex is crazy. Mine's like relationship-y, crazy, adventure, yeah
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I feel like mine's more like Gen Z, right? I'm in college right now, so I'm making a lot of college vlogs
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Are you like teaching them a lot of stuff about Gen Z user behavior? Uh, yes
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More so things not to say. Okay. And he's like, you can't say that. I'm like, oh, I can't say that anymore
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He's like, no, starting this year, you can't say that anymore. I'm like, oh, okay, good, thank you
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There's a lot of teaching, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, let me teach you the words, the things you need to know. Yeah
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Have you taught them about Gorilla Tag? I've not, I... You don't even know
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I actually think that's Gen Alpha. That's Gen Alpha. We gotta call mom to have another one
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We need another one, mom. Yeah, you gotta get a Gen Alpha sibling. We don't know things. You guys have been coming to VidCon for a while now
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And so I want to know, what's the biggest change that you've noticed? There's a lot more people now
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Before, back in the day, I knew every YouTuber. I knew everybody that was walking by
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Now it's just a lot. It's a lot. It's like they got Snapchatters, TikTokers, Instagrammers, everything
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It's cool. It's exciting. It's a lot of new faces. How is the, you know, the industry at large, I guess, changed for you guys since you first
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started making videos? I just feel like it's more known now. Like back in the day, like we were saying, people were like, what do you do
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We shoot videos for TV. And it's like, no, just for social media
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Yeah. But now it's like everybody knows it. And it's kind of like nice and refreshing because everybody, like you don't have to
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feel like an outsider. It's like everyone does it now. Yeah. At what point did it feel like
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okay, we could actually make a career out of this? It wasn't until this guy made a career out of it
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that I feel like we were like, oh, maybe this is a possibility for us. Yeah. So you had to lead
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the charge. I just fell into it. And then I was like, guys, jump in. The water's great. Yeah
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What gave you though, that inkling that this could be a thing? So for the first four or five
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years of YouTube, they didn't offer you it wasn a paid job It was just a place to put videos and people could see it So we did it just for the love of the game he came to my apartment when i was in college and
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he saw the videos and he's like you should upload these and i was like but they're not like funny they're like yeah kind of serious vlogs and he's like just do it just do it and i did it and then
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i found an audience and then before i knew it i was like hey can i come out to cali no actually
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he asked me to come out to california i was like i guess i could try it yeah and now i'm here
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obviously like when you first started i'm sure like subscriber count was a big deal to you like
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watching the numbers increase i've talked to a lot of different creators where it's like
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that's not the number isn't so much important anymore so what are your thoughts on that like
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what is like the most important metric that you um yeah subs don't really matter like back in the
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day if you had a subscriber and you upload a video they're gonna get notified now it doesn't
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like now they don't even if they're subscribed they might not get notified because youtube doesn't
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that they want to see it or I don't know it's algorithm so it more counts on the views and the
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community I feel like the comments mean more than the views do yeah just seeing how we affect people
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are you guys in the comments like yeah I read every and we read every single one you read every comment
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they say not to do that sometimes well the good thing our community is like nice really nice yeah
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we don't get much hate since you guys have been doing this for a while do you have you thought
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about you know tricks for curbing burnout I've been burned out a million
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times yeah I guess I don't know yeah you tell me I need to know I need to learn
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this what do you do in that situation you just got to work through usually just like hang out in the dark and cry a little bit no you just got to relax or
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refresh and yeah and once you do that you can like have a clear mind and figure
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out what you what the next step is what's the most important thing when you're going into making a video. Well, we have a new channel, so we're still like in the
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experimental phase. So we're kind of dipping our toes into everything, but I think we should just
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do more car ride videos because everybody loves the car ride videos because all we have is brother
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banter and interacting with people. So I think that's the ones I enjoy the most. They have been
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surprisingly fun because we were a little skeptical in the beginning. And then my wife was
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like, you guys should do car ride videos. And we're like, are you sure? Our talk to videos are the car
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Something my brothers have taught me is that having fun is the most important part
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I was always like, you gotta, you gotta. I never said that. Aaron says that all the time Aaron says all the time I swear If someone comes up to you like what do I have to do to be successful like 10 years from now What like this piece of advice you would give I would say consistency
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Consistency? I think that's definitely it. Not giving up. Yeah. You get that hate comment, kind of just brushing it off and moving on to the next
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And if one video doesn't do as well as the others, don't take it personally. Yeah
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Just learn from the mistake and move on. Okay. Yeah. I'd say just trial and error. Just keep going, figure it out
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You're going to suck at first. Everybody sucks at first. I just say keep going. You have nothing to lose
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Just keep swimming. You have everything to gain. Just keep swimming. What's the best that could happen
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Oh, that's good. There you go. Good line. I think Andrew told me that
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I did tell you that. Oh, yeah. What are some like creator, maybe trends that you're looking at that you're excited about
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The siblings things are doing really well. Twins, siblings, siblings, brothers, sisters
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So I'm excited that that's doing well because once there's a trends pop up all the time
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But once something pops up that we're like, oh, that's like that we're comfortable with that one
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Like that's us that just got us so it's just easy to fall into so we're excited to see where our channel goes
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I've been seeing a lot of travel content like 50 states and 50 days. Oh, if you want to combine the driving
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Oh the states. Oh, we could do that. That's like the third time he's mentioned this
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I think he's trying to let us know what he wants to do He wants to go on a road trip. That'd be so cool. Okay, Wasabi Bros road trip. Oh my gosh
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So drive just from East Coast to West Coast is like three or four days
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So we're about to do that. So every day it's going to be like two months. Okay, but think of how many views it is
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Think of the memories. You're right, you're right. Oh sorry, think of the memories. Think of the memories and the fun
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All right. What do you think is important to your generation though when they're consuming content? Like..
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What's important to them? Yeah, like what do you think they're looking for in a creator
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I think my generation is looking for the wrong things right now. Okay
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I should take a step back. Okay. Less brain rot. Okay. Like authenticity. Yeah
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It'd be great to have back in our generation just like they had in their olden times
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Hey, it's not olden times. I was just going to say you were doing so well until you said that
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It was like ten years ago. I'm nervous. I don't know. You were doing so good until you threw us under the bus
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Sorry, sorry, sorry. I think that's actually a really astute observation. There is a lot of brain rot content on the internet
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There is, yeah. And I think you're right. Let's bring it back to authenticity
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I would never be a shorts creator I mean but you have had to diversify That another thing that you had to like you have to adapt you have to adapt and you started in long
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form you end up making shorts yeah I mean we all everybody does shorts
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everybody's clips but yeah the long form is making a little comeback so I'm
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excited for that I think people are finally rotted it's like full circle
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the circle of life it's coming back around yeah yeah we do this thing at
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Mashable we have a series called in my bag okay and it's about the tools and
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devices that creators use to make their content what's in your bag you go first
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yeah chapstick okay why chapstick cuz I need it all the time I didn't know
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we're going that route I need sunscreen cuz I'm vlogging outside you want you want tech options or I you can do both okay okay okay yeah like a chapstick and
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a tech off technologically I would say handheld tripod is probably the tech I
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I use the most. Like, I can't do anything. I can have all this other equipment
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but if I don't have that handheld tripod, I'm messed up. Yeah. Yeah. You're not freehanding it
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For me, it's the mic. Okay. The longer I go, the more I realize audio is kind of the thing
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Like, if it's bad audio, it'll annoy me too much. And then I'm like, I can't do it anymore
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So I would definitely say audio. Mics, lobs. We both use the DJI lobs
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DJI lobs. DJI is very popular with creators. So easy. Yeah. And the Sony too, but yeah
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I love that you brought, like, a display. You're like, let me show you what's actually in my bag
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I have to. Thank you. I mean, you understood the assignment. I appreciate it
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Vlogging. Hello. Aaron's more of the tech guy. Yeah. I have my camera over there
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Should I bring my camera out too? Do you want to bring your camera? Bring your camera. Thank you
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Breaking the fourth wall. Wow. I think Alex gave me this like five years ago. Okay
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I gave you that. It's a Sony. It's a ZV-1. Okay. Yeah, very nice
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I can't go anywhere without it. Okay. Point and shoot. Point and shoot
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It's point and shoot. Okay, Aaron is a tech guy. Yeah. We all bring something to it
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and I feel like tech is my thing. Yeah. And he's funny, and he just brings in the knowledge
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of everything that's happening right now. Yeah, you. And he's really funny too
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You are really funny. He's funny too. Okay. Everyone's really funny. We're funny too, yeah
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Oh my God, thank you so much. Do you have a frivolous thing that you can't live without? Usually a fan, because I sweat very easily. Same
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So like, yeah. And toodaloo from Mashable. Till next time. Thank you
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