Tatiana on Walking With Christ, distinguishing between Godly emotions and one's emotions & more
Feb 19, 2025
Welcome to episode 5 of the Eternal Perspective Conversation. Today's guest is Tatiana Orozco of Grace Community Church. We will be talking about her walk with the Lord, understanding the distinction between fleshly emotions and those prompted by the Holy spirit. She will also tell us how she has been dealing with the isolation due to the pandemic and more, see video below
Here is a breakdown of our conversations by topic
0:22 Introduction
2:39 when and how did u come to Christ
6:05 The responsibility that comes with following Christ
7:43 how do you know that you're indwelled with the Holy spirit
9:03 the importance of the Peace of God
9:55 how to distinguish between the peace of god and one's emotions
10:45 the destructive effects of unbridled anger
13:22 How has the pandemic affected you?
14:59 the importance of journaling
16:21 the importance of community
17:00 Knowing and recognizing the prompting of the Spirit
19:00 quick testimony
20:39 shift to prayer, a clear sign of the holy spirit's prompting
23:13 introducing intercessory prayer
24:48 the importance of testing everything we hear and think about
27:30 how to respond to sudden crisis
30: 15 times of pain are times for Growth
33:33 Advice on dating for younger girls
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hello this is taiva at the eternal perspective conversation and i have in front of me um a good
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friend i would say and i'll let her introduce herself so would you please tell us what your
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name is and if you want where you're from and anything that you want to add to it
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is welcome okay uh hello everyone my name is tatiana orozco and
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i am 30 years old i just turned 30 about 6 months ago and i know
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so far it's been a it's been an exciting chapter and i i'm enjoying it um
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i i have attended grace community church um
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for about 30 years my whole life um i was i was i wasn't born
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into the church literally but i i was presented at church at two months two three months
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and i've been i've been here ever since and i've seen all the good all the bad that comes with
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church so um i ha i am the oldest of three siblings
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um i am i was born in virginia fairfax county
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virginia but uh i lived in montgomery county since the age of seven and i've been
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here ever since um in in maryland i've been here since 97
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and this is maryland is what i consider home i don't consider virginia home even
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though i was born there but i i moved we moved at such a young age that i don't remember
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too much of it i do remember most of my time here in maryland and
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school my peers friends family uh they're yeah they're
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all here and um
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this is really hard talking about myself
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my next question to you is this like uh we're here to talk christian business okay yes when i say
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christian business i'm not talking about running a business but i'm talking about living the life of christ so um
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so when did you come to christ and how did you come to know jesus
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ah that is a great question so it took place and i forget the year
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and i i can give you like a time frame like uh like age-wise give or take give or take
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uh but it was a dare word by darewood bible church and i was i believe either
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nine or ten around there um and i remember just hearing this
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sermon that my uncle at the time uh was the pastor of the church and now it's his son my cousin pastor
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julio um and i'm not sure why at nine or ten i was just having this
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this uh turmoil this this like it's like a like a raging in my heart as
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um my uncle was preaching that sunday and i remember just going up to the altar during the altar
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call and giving my life to christ that moment
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and shortly after i gave my life to christ i got baptized
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in that same church and i remember i remember knowing
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that this step was really important for my life and that's why i needed to take it but
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at that moment that i'm being completely transparent
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right now but at that moment i didn't realize what i was signing up
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for you know just how important that decision was and how
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um how it's going to be carried for the rest of my life
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um and
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talking about now like well 21 years later
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um looking back at that decision
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like if i were to speak to my young self at that moment i would tell myself you know you did a great
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decision doing this um
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and you need to hold on you're going to need to hold on to jesus
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for for a lot of things and
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now i can firmly and honestly say that i do i did it then
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but i do now and uh he's he's really important to
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my everyday life to my thoughts to my prayers to what i say
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um and and really how i think and it'll yeah
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and i remember my uncle
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stating that you know this this was going to be an important decision in your life um
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you know following christ is really easy but i mean it's really
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easy to say yes but with that decision comes
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all these things um but he reassured me that he was going to
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be with me through it all and he has been he was faithful
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he is faithful to to my walk he is faithful to my walk and he's been there
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with me and i can honestly say that i wouldn't be standing here or i wouldn't be here
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at 30 30 years of age without him by my side going through what we went through
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together and when i say we i mean me myself and i
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we've been through a lot since we've accepted christ in our hearts in our
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lives and it it was worth it
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it was worth it yeah i hear that you know you know it's a lot for me i didn't come
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to jesus until i was like probably 25 i've heard about christ i
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went to a presbyterian school and everything but i didn't really make that decision you know so a lot of people that grew up in the church like you
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you know you have the church influence you have your uncle that's preaching you have a lot all your family members are going to church
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so sometimes it's tough because you can be uh in a state where you have
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these emotions that are running through your head and you just give your life to christ so at the age of 10 i believe the lord
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was working then now um what i want to add to this is this like today now that you're mature you've
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grown up you know you're like 30 that's like 20 years down the line so how do you know that you are
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indwelled with the holy spirit because if you look at romans the scriptures say
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um those that are led by the spirit of god are the sons and daughters of god so
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what are the evidences of the holy spirit because a lot of christians i think sometimes they are
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self-deceived like some people they say well yeah i believe in god and and then you look at what they're doing and it's like it doesn't really match up
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so for you what are some of the things that god has done to say you are my daughter
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you belong to me like what are the pillars like some of the things that have happened that you know that you know that you know
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that you are his forever
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a word that is sticking out to me right now is peace um
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overall i am i guess they could say a pacifist like i
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i i don't like you know being in fights or discussions or arguments
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because i don't do well in those kind of situations but um
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peace when you are in a difficult situation whatever it may
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be um how i know that i'm filled with the
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spirit in that moment of difficulty is me being surrounded by nothing but peace
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and we read that jesus one of jesus name is peace
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prince of peace and i know uh and it also it also takes
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verbally for you to invite the holy spirit to fill you up with peace it's that
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invitation also and inviting god's spirit
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to overwhelm you instead of your emotions um i i'm also
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an emotional person and uh how i can distinguish between my
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emotions and god and his spirit um
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would be when my emotions for a lack of a better
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word flare up um the one
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strong emotion that comes is anger
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and i know that's not from the lord amen and that's when i have to invite the
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holy spirit to dwell into my heart and and fill my every fiber of being
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with peace uh because
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uh when you're in a state of anger anger can really cloud your judgment
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it can make you also do dumb things um and i've i've done
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my share i've i've had my share of dumb things when i'm angry i say the
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wrong things i do the wrong things and when jesus is
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filling you up with his peace um you're not really angry like
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you can let go of that anger you can speak firmly and peacefully and calmly
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in a state of love if it's with another person you would
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dress that person with love and compassion in the midst of that difficulty and and
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not speak from a place of anger because you're probably going to say something that you don't mean
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and um
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and another thing um for me personally uh i'm not sure who else
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experienced this but for me personally how i know that i'm filled with the spirit as well
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is um i i i cry
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cry and i and i am a crier i i am a crier that's
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that's the emotional part of me i i cry um but like as a like like right now
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i'm feeling this warm peace and i know this is the holy spirit um
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and uh thank you jesus and um oh my gosh type i i lost my train of
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thought as i was going that's okay real life and and this is part of the process so
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i guess you actually jump ahead of some of the questions that i was gonna ask you but it's good but uh i just wanted to to uh make a
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quick observation no i'm not gonna do that now so let's let's keep going so the pandemic okay we can't talk about
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uh the holy spirit and what he has done without mentioning the pandemic now this pandemic has caused a lot of uh i
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would say isolation that's right we haven't been able to meet our church we've been just
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you know doing nothing so has it served in some some ways to grow you
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spiritually because you don't necessarily have the connection that you have with
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some of the members of the church right how have you grown spiritually in the pandemic or has it been more like a
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challenge to your growth in christ definitely a challenge
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i'll tell you that right off the bat it was a challenge because at the beginning of the pandemic
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i didn't take it very well um i lost not lost
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but i i wasn't working like it felt like a loss that's what i
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meant it felt like a loss because i wasn't working and i was you know i was devastated to hear that i was
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going to be furlough you know um because i've never been in
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that situation before and i didn't know how to handle it i didn't know how to deal with it and i
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i handled it very poorly i reacted it poorly um at the beginning of the
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pandemic and slowly but surely
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i know that the lord was working at me and he was he was letting me know some truths about
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myself that i didn't want to hear um or pay attention to or realize you know um
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but it wasn't until like the last four four months
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that i really just had to like sit down and it was like a battle with myself
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an internal battle and this is where i did a lot of journaling a lot of writing um
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to just really write down what i was thinking what i was feeling even it was
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just like ramble rambling i ramble a lot so you you can see that reflected in my
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in my writing and um
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the the lord definitely challenged he's still challenging me now you know um after hearing today's
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sermon uh yeah
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and we're working on those challenges it's been it's been challenging to to grow and i i can relate to that because
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and one of the things that that's settling in usually is laziness yes yeah um
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disregard your spiritual disciplines which is which are important by the way because they helped you to stay focused when you
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don't have that that connection you know like some of us are more like lone wolves than others like
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for me i like community but i also like my private space you can ask
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folks in my house i like to be by myself and i enjoy being alone with the lord myself
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just getting into the world and really growing in that way but for some others it's a it's always
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like that sense of community which is great by the way because i need that too and we all need it yeah
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so so now you talk about emotions and as you and i are talking i see a lot of emotions coming out of you so
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which you know is what i you mentioned it so now my question is you mentioned a couple of things um a week ago when we
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were talking and i asked you permission is it okay if i could talk about it and you i guess you didn't say no so i believe that i can
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talk about our conversation last week where you said for for three days you were crying and praying
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yes and that's like sent me to romans eight where the scripture says for the spirit
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himself um and the seed for us we've grown too deep for words right and which means the spirit of god
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prays for you in those moments sometimes when you're crying
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when you are angry it is the spirit praying in you and the emotion comes out as
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anger and crying maybe but then when i went to to sleep down and i said to myself i
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believe the lord said to me now how do you distinguish between emotions that are
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self-made by you or emotions are coming from the holy spirit and then and um that's the question that
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i went i wanted to ask but you you talked about it earlier you talked about having that peace that passes understanding yes
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and and that kind of helps you understand and also you talked about how anger doesn't overtake you
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because sometimes the spirit of god has holy anger so holy anger can come into you and that
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holy anger uh we saw jesus in it and when he went into the temple where he overthrew the
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tables right so for us because sometimes one of the things that i've struggled with
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and and i'm saying this because i want to ask the question is i i'll listen to like a song a song by celine dion
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which you know i haven't listened to in a long time but i remember i used to listen to where now tears would come down my eyes and then i'll go to church
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on sunday and i'll sing worship songs and i would tear up sometimes so i'm i'm thinking okay now clearly celine
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dion's songs had nothing to do with jesus it was just an emotional love song that i reacted to so how do i know
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whether those those tears are coming from the holy spirit all those tears are coming from our own
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body being just emotionally uh i don't stir you know it's hard so how
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do you now submit the question how do you know whether your emotions at the time are coming from the holy
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spirit so that you don't get deceived in the process how do you know this is genuine this is from the holy
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spirit is there any way to kind of confirm that when those things come to you
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okay i will share with you something that i have not uh share with anybody okay well they
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gonna hear it now they're gonna hear it now um but i won't say any names good i just uh
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i was so when i was telling you that um last week that i was crying for three
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days um it started off with having a conversation with somebody and
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that conversation did not go so well
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um and i remember hanging up after that phone call and um
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i was feeling sad and i was feeling angry and that's what started
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the three days of crying and praying um because at first i was crying at a
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place of anger and sadness
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but the more i started the more i thought about praying because
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then initially i wasn't praying i was just crying because in that moment that's
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what i just needed to do just to release it
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but the more that i thought about praying the more it made me just want to
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try it being in that state of vulnerability and after having that conversation with that
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person um [Music] i felt a shift because it wasn't
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me anymore i was now in the presence of god i was just i was in that
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big house with me myself and i and god
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and it was just us too and i remember just
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pouring my heart out to him after i thought about praying i said let's
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just do it and so it was just like a quick prayer
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and then and then i would take a break and then i would
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um i would come back to that state but my heart it was
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crying out of a place where it wasn't my emotions anymore um
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i thought about some names and i would pray for those names that
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came to my mind um there was one name that came to mind
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and i remember feeling um this emotion um
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it was it was sadness but it was there was also hope and i prayed for that person i'm just
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like lord i don't know what this person is doing like right now um
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but lord protect them be with them you know open their hearts if they're hardened for whatever reason
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and as i started continuing that it was just it just shifted
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um and i was praying out of a place with peace and love
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but also the for a lack of a better word negative
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emotions that came with it um because if i wasn't so much sad about me
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anymore about what i was going through i was more sad
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with what i was praying for
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and i don't i don't know and i remember my sister saying mentioning this one time that um as she
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started praying for people you know she would feel that god would um
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allow her to feel with with what uh allow her to feel
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what that person is feeling or what god was feeling that person
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it's almost like an intercession where the burden on that person is put on you
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and then you begin to pray for that person you know which which is scripture i believe and also i
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remember in first samuel there was a woman named um hannah she couldn't have any children
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right okay so for years she she would go to the temple and ask the lord you know and the lord the child didn't
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come until she got to the point where she said if you give me that child i'll give them to the lord all the days
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of his life but the scripture says something clear she said she went to the lord and she
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was weeping before the lord and out of those on tears i guess the
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holy spirit himself was working in her to pray exactly the mind of god
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for that person in the sense that as she was praying then the lord was birthing in her the
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desire to pray for that person no they deserve to pray for a child which was samuel
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you know and so i believe uh maybe you can ask the lord maybe you have uh
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an intercessory uh gift that he has given you i wouldn't say gift but maybe he has put that burden on you to pray for people and in
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the process things happen so i will say seek the lord for that and then ask him to um
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to uh to confirm it because one of the things that uh i've been made aware of lately myself is
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um like what pastor julio was saying this morning their heart is deceptive
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you know and i've never when i've been in a place where i'm self-deceived i'm thinking okay maybe this is the from the road and i'm like
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okay this is my own head you know so what i've done as of ladies anytime i i've sent something i say hey
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listen i need to call one or two brothers in christ and say listen god god please confirm
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this and and this is scripture because the scripture says test every spirit because there are some spirits that have
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come out and they will deceive you so i'll say i would encourage you and myself to whenever we hear something from the lord
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and we believe we heard something let's always confirm somebody and say listen i'm i i'm feeling this way
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i want you to please help me confirm it and and possibly let's go to scripture if there's any scripture that can confirm this
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because sometimes what has happened is i've been so isolated that i begin to
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get into this place of uh and i don't want to share this but i'm going to mention it quickly
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it was a recurring thing with me i felt some ways and i kept feeling as if it was this was only me me me me me and
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then finally uh sarah told me you need to stop thinking this way man like get out of yourself like she called me
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out on it and it was something that i needed to hear but the lord confirmed it in the sense that it was
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me just being caught up in my own thoughts but you know and and i'm only saying
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that because um i just want to encourage one another us to
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to be more like a community in the sense that we need to always talk to other christians you know that
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we trust and we know that have our best interest about the things that we're feeling and and encourage it it's good to be
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alone and to do it alone was is better when you have a brother or sister in christ that can also join him
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in the process and confirm what you're feeling and also support you in the process yes
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and i'm so glad you mentioned that because that that in itself is important as well um that literally happened to me
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last year um it's been a year excuse me it's been a year since i
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praying since i prayed for this because from the moment i heard it
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it you know it was like this uh you know um i'm trying to look for the word in
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english and i uh this unresting
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[Music] yeah it's like this unresting uh
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feeling yeah when because when i heard it i was just i was confused i was a little
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like blindsided a little bit you know because it was it was just it was just something that
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was unexpected and it was the last thing i needed to hear that night
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you know and and because you know we were at a celebration we were celebrating life that night you know and
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and then you know that curveball happens and um i mentioned i brought it up to somebody
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and i brought it up to somebody and she kind of like disregarded it
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and that kind of like discouraged me a little bit because you know um
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because i haven't heard anything like that you know and i needed to share it with
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somebody and i shared it with with somebody the next day
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and then like it was like disregarded and i'm just like no this doesn't feel right you know like i
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have to talk to somebody else about it because maybe she doesn't understand maybe she doesn't
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know what to say and she just said what she said but i needed to speak with somebody else
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about it um so i went to my sister's mother-in-law because
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i don't know why but the lord led me to her so i did and she goes well hold on now
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if this is something that was said by god or in the name of god then
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you needed it to come you need to confirm it with two other witnesses
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and so she was my first and my sister was the second um i'm still praying because i still
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have not received that confirmation and i'm gonna be honest with you um
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[Music] i'm i'm still waiting for that confirmation
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and i don't know how the lord's gonna confirm it i am scared a little bit
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and because it's all new i know nothing about it and i don't know
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how to proceed with it and if it is confirmed or i should say
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when it is confirmed um i i pray that my heart
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and my attitude is in the right place for me to receive it and to accept it
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um yeah those are tough things you know as
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believers in christ you know we've been done some tough roads and and that's what the bible says that um
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we're gonna suffer in this world you know and and if you if you dig into everybody's
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life as a believer you find that they've had times i've had times you have time pastor
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julio had time where it was almost like the whole world is coming down on your head and you you
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bandage everything on your shoulders which is hard to do yeah and in those times i found those times
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to be the times where i grew the most you know like four
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three four years ago and i was talking to one of brother in christ i say i was really really in my thinking
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i had like what him would you say a form of godliness but i deny its power in the sense that i
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was i believe i was a believer but then the things that i was doing on a daily basis they weren't consistent
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with the word of god so to speak and then the lord allowed me to go through a time of sifting
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the sifting of the believer which i told somebody that i wouldn't wish
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that on my worst enemy but that has
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caused me to grow and i cannot take the credit for the growth because it was all by the grace of god
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you know the scripture says faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of god and many people twist that scripture
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they don't understand yeah what it means you know but god uses
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all things together for good for those who have been called according to his purpose and his purpose
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for the main time for for the most part is to make you like jesus
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so sometimes the things that you're going through that you don't understand they are
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working to conform you to the likeness of christ and it's hard for us because it is
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painful it may be shameful he may be destroyed like we think this is going to destroy
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me but the scripture says uh no discipline is pleasant at a time
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but later it leads to the harvest of righteousness for those who have been trained by it
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that's the whole thing like it gives it makes you strong like the world says
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what doesn't kill you make you stronger but we say we say it gives you a harvest of righteousness
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so i believe god is working
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for your good and for his glory amen to bring about the righteousness of christ in you some
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way or another i don't know what it is but we can only hope because the word of god does not lie the word of god is true
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amen you know so so i'll say like people say hang in there which is cliche but i i truly believe hang in
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there hang on christ yes hang on christ you know goes hanging there it's not really good hope
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hang on christ you know and and that's that's the that's the main main thing
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now i have a question that i want to ask you because i believe you can give some of these
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young girls um some advice on that and and it's the question is the question i asked a
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couple of people it's like for dating for now like i've i've been out of the game you know i'm
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married yeah i've been adding so i don't know anymore what you know like so the question is with the way the
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world is going now like how would you counsel a young girl maybe in her
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she's 18 20 17 16 going up to like what would you say uh she should
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look for in a man these days like what would you say to a girl that is in christ i'll say believe it because
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unbelievers right now they probably won't listen to you they think you're old-fashioned i'm old-fashioned but what would you say
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to some a girl that say listen i love god but i also want a boyfriend like
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my friends you know like so what would you say to go about what what would you constantly what was your
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advice ah i know that this is uh not something
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young girls want to hear especially if they want to like if they have that desire to be in a
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relationship because i was there at one point in my life so
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i want to say wait wait until you
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feel truly ready to be in a relationship because it requires trust it requires communication it
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requires you to be vulnerable with each other with yourself to be honest and truthful and
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if there's any deception in that relationship it will it will fall and
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and i know what i'm about to say is so cliche it's so uh overshared
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uh but truly a man after god's own heart is worth the
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wait [Music] a man who knows god who
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has a relationship with jesus who can trust jesus in
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the most hardest parts of his life as well as the best parts of his life
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that truly is a man who
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wow this is truly a man who can lead you in your family this is a man
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who will love you because he loves jesus
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this is a man and i notice that i'm not saying boy i'm saying man
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and i'm not saying that what i'm not what i'm trying to say is a boy a boy has
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that capacity to do the right things by jesus um if
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by by a young age he he feels led by jesus and is truly living
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for jesus but i also belie when i say wait it's because you don't need a boy
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you need a man and by waiting you will acquire that man
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that knows the values in life what's really
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important and will lead his family
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into that environment as well um a man after god's own heart
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true is is a i feel like it's a virtue in itself but you know most most people who say
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that doesn't exist anymore and they're like i need you to show me practical like
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practical uh things that i can do now because i i just want to have a boyfriend you know it which is hard to
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do you know so so you know yeah that's what i wanted to ask you know like what would
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you say to a young girl but you you gave me um the answers and i'll say
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i will encourage you to continue to do that with those that are under you you know those that you know you know don't stop preaching that
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because sometimes we we under preach if we think what they already know but now i think we should
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always reiterate it like it's just like when i don't read the word of god for like a week
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things just i forget i always have to go back yeah mind them so keep on reminding them
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and don't stop doing it even if they don't like it keep saying it and i can honestly
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honestly say this i'm still single and these are these are things that i've come to learn
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right and what i want in my spouse um because i believe that's important
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that's important yeah did your dog just open the door by itself yes you did that's awesome you just disrupted the
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entire
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is there anything else she wanted to add because i pretty much have ran out of questions so if you have
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anything else you wanted to add you know so you can wrap this up um go ahead i
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i truly hope that this video helped somebody because this was not
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easy for me to say yes to um but i did it with
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just with that one notion that maybe one person needed to hear this
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and maybe feel that they're not alone in this journey or you know with the
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emotional part of their life um that you know to reach out if if you're not
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part of a church community and you really want to be part of a church community or a community itself um look for people
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that will encourage you inspire you uplift you
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um and throw truth at you
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we don't have time for lies we don't have time for games no more no
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no and and surround yourself with love with jesus's love i have to i have to
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surround myself with jesus love every day because um you know
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jesus made it very clear what we are what's inside our hearts in in mark
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uh mark chapter eight yeah you know and we have to depend on god
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every day yes to get those out of our hearts and to lead a life
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that jesus did and and what we what we read in the
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bible it's not easy but it's worth it yes it's worth it it is worth it yeah i
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totally agree with you on that and young lady wait wait for the one
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because uh if jesus is not in the middle of your relationship it's not going to work that's right and
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i i can honestly say that with all the experience in the world and i'm not i'm not expert at dating
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either it's just these are things that i've learned along the way uh you need jesus in the middle of your
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relationship because he's the one who's going to take that and grow for his glory
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amen and it's only for his glory yes and with that we just gonna wrap up this
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uh good conversation that we just had again guys thanks for watching and i'm taiv from uh grace coming to
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church if you wanna listen to our sermons i will have a link for you in the description again thank you for being part of this process
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and you have a wonderful day thank you very much and i'm going to
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