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Mitchell Paige on Indiana's Performance at Michigan State, CFP Ranking Expectations, and more
Nov 7, 2024
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all right joining us from his vehicle
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once again it is none other than Mr
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Mitchell page here on Monday very
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excited to continue to talk more about
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an undefeated Indiana hooers football
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team and and before I get too deep into
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it Mitchell I just want to ask you how
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did you enjoy the game this Saturday
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seeing Indiana finally face some real
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adversity and really respond in probably
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the best way
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possible I guess technically it was
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adversity but I'm at the point where I'm
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watching Indiana just waiting for the
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inevitable which is just pounding a team
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into the ground repeatedly
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relentlessly until they can't breathe
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anymore that seems to be what this team
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does no matter what uh it was I guess
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cool to see him losing like okay let's
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see how we react there's been teams
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around the country that get down 10 to
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nothing and by 25 look at Texas M
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yesterday who everybody thinks is better
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than
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Indiana they go to South Carolina get
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down early and then get smoked run out
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of the building Clemson same thing get
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down early smoked run out of their own
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building and Indiana just doesn't do
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that
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they keep the pedal
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down and I it feels like they throw a
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100 Haymakers a game it it's so
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impressive to just watch them
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continually
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execute and
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I I I I don't
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know it's amazing but being ranked
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eighth in the AP pole still feels too
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low somehow and how cool of a spot is
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that to be in it is a cool spot to be in
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then I I was already trying to think of
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what should I expect from the college
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football playoff rankings on Tuesday I
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tend to think that there's going to be
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somewhere between that six to eight
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range anything higher when I say higher
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I mean worse than eight I feel like
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would be a travesty and more disrespect
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on Indiana's part um I don't think I
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expect that from the committee but again
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there's really no current expectations
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from them because we haven't seen what
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they value who they truly think is is
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good at this point in time so I mean a
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lot of it's a waitand see game for for
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that specifically but I think if if
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they're anywhere between six seven and
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eight anywhere between with those
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numbers then you should be satisfied if
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they're better then you know more power
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to the hooers because that shows that
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they really value what they've done on
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the field so far yeah and you got to
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think 678 that's the playoff
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committee the and I don't think they're
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making brackets just yet but if you have
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a six seven or eight seed that probably
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means that you made it to the Big 10
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championship game um yeah that because
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you'd be uh you'd be hosting one of the
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first round games in one of those
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scenarios the scenario plays out that
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you beat Ohio State made it to the Big
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10 championship and then lost to Oregon
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most likely in the Big 10 championship
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and depending on how other things shake
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out there's a chance they could be that
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five seed if that is the case um but 678
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is a really good spot to
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be who knows when we get to that but I'm
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gonna start with what I'm about to say
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by saying it seems like Indiana already
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does this but you just have to make sure
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that just beat whoever's in front of you
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continue to beat the crap out of
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everybody that's in front of you I feel
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bad for Michigan that's tough you're
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supposed to be the big boys you got all
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this tradition you're gonna come in get
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doged by the
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ho um but then you this is now more from
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a fan perspective and trying to
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understand how they're raiding these
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teams the biggest problem I have with
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the ratings there's a couple teams that
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I think Indiana is by far better than um
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Penn State is the one at the top of the
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list I was watching Penn State yesterday
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Ohio state is good I guess but
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how can you watch that team look at
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their
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schedule and think that Indiana is a
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five by far superior team than them and
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it's I've finally started to subscribe
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to the theory and I I know it's always
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been there but it took me to this week
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to get there to where if Indiana the
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players at Indiana had on a Penn State
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uniform this team would be ranked number
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one or two in the country Penn State
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doesn't have a single win that's better
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than an Indiana win not one they beat an
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so overrated Illinois team that's now
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getting beat by everybody they beat U
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USC who just lost to
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Washington like
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you're I don't understand how you
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can how you can justify keeping that
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team ahead of Indiana in the polls and
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now it doesn't matter like just keep
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winning if you're in the building but
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from an outside perspective
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really you just hope that the committee
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doesn't do it the way that the AP poll
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does where I heard it described really
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well that and it makes sense it's kind
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of like a NASCAR race it matters where
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you started right like you
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can't just because you had a really good
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race doesn't mean that you automatically
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get in first if you started in last
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which is probably close to where Indiana
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started so well I do understand that
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that's kind of how it has to work you
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have to go up gradually it's just hard
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for me to see a a couple of the teams
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ahead of them that are ahead of them AP
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it would honestly be it would be a
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big disappointment to see the college
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football playoff rankings basically look
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like a carbon copy of the AP poll
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because at that point what are we doing
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the the college football playoff
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rankings the reason that you don't get
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them until this point in the season is
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because they're supposed to be truly
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based off of what's been going on this
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year and this year alone whereas the
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beginning of the AP poll pretty much its
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entirety is based Bas off of the
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previous year and expectations with
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rosters that are you know incoming for
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the upcoming season and that's literally
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what the AP poll week in and week out is
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based on because there's no gap between
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weeks like okay we'll wait and see what
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a couple of teams look like before we do
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another poll no it keeps going
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continuously this is late in the season
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because you're supposed to have a better
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idea of who the true best teams in the
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country are and I think that's why
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you're going to see some some shakeups
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at least when it comes to comparing
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things to the AP pole and it would be
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unfortunate if that's not the case yeah
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it's supposed to be regardless of the
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uniform who's the best team who's played
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the best who's beat their opponents the
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worst who's been the most consistent
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that's what it's supposed to be that's
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why we went to this format and you'd
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hope that unlike the AP poll and it's
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hard to expect them to watch every game
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but for the college football players off
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you'd hope that all of these people that
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are voting on this and selecting these
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teams have at least watched all the
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teams play and I don't think you get
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that necessarily in the AP poll there
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could be a lot of biases and different
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things but hopefully it's objective and
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yeah I think six to Eight's a really
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good spot for Indiana to be anything
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lower than than that start to ask some
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questions um because I'm I'm tired of
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have listening to oh they haven't played
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anybody the teams
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that Jeremy gray Jeremy Gray from
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Indiana put this on Twitter says every
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team that Indiana is going up against is
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the most dangerous team in the country
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until Indiana beats him by 30 points and
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then they suck correct correct everybody
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talking about Nebraska people were
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talking about Nebraska in the college
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football playoff before we beat him by
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seven
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touchdowns then you talk about
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Washington Washington sneaky they beat
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Michigan they got all this Talent they
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got a good quarterback they score all
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these points they got all these yards
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and then we smoke them and then they're
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nothing Michigan State running the ball
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a lot better ran it all over Michigan
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ran it all over Iowa they're dangerous
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they're gonna be good and then you beat
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them by five touchdowns score 47 minus
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36 rushing yards by the way yes I mean
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that's a hilarious stat that it I don't
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know if I've actually gotten to where I
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believe that I watched it with my own
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two I know that it's true but that is
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such a crazy stat that you need some
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time to digest it um yeah but it's I'm
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tired of listening to it I'm tired of
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like there's three teams I think that
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have played anyone if you really look at
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their schedules everyone stinks
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according to everyone you you all
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they've done is beat the teams that they
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are playing by a
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100 what else can they do and if you're
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going to get disrespected for a schedule
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Ohio State hasn't really beat anybody
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except Penn State Penn State definitely
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hasn't beat
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anybody it's just it's hard for me to to
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justify the the schedule
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naysayers yeah well I guess we'll we'll
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try to move on from this because again
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Indiana's done their part in taking care
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of everybody that they've they played
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and and now I mean I guess looking ahead
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they have the it's really the perfect
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Triumph for it for Kurt cetti just
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because it's all three of the teams that
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he called out in Assembly Hall and I I
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love if it were any other season I mean
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I guess it doesn't really matter but I
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just love that everything honestly it
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feels like a movie right Mitchell
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there's nothing about this season that
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doesn't and you have to date it all the
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way back to the day Kurt cetti arrived
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because there's not a single thing that
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he didn't say that wasn't considered at
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the time kind of like a hot take and
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he's followed through on everything and
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I guess the last thing to do to complete
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the prophecy is is prove that Purdue
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Michigan and Ohio State suck and move on
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to the Big 10
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Championship yeah that's exactly it uh
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although I did see at Big 10 media days
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it's been resurfacing on Twitter a
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little bit that yes he was talking about
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the big 10 championship and a lot of
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people were tweeting kurtti talking
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about the big 10 Championship period
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they're expected to be bottom two in the
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Big
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10 like just demeaning whatever he's
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saying it's I mean you don't even need a
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script writer for it no he comes in he's
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had all this success but now comes to a
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program in turmoil and that I think is
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putting it mildly the whole team's in
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the transfer portal he's got no players
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you can just picture him go out for the
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first practice and there's like eight
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guys on the field because everyone else
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is in the portal and then just have this
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magical
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run that I mean you hope is sustainable
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feels sustainable it's not like they've
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and I think we talked about this before
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the most impressive thing to me is not
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that they're creating a bunch of chaos
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on defense and having turnovers and
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returning kicks for touchdowns and
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winning a bunch of 50-50 balls like
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they've won in the past this is just
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demolition after demolition with
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traditional ball yeah with players that
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aren't five-star players now I think
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they're really freaking good I think I
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put those guys up against anybody but it
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feels very
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repeatable so I I you know it's magic
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now but hopefully I think one thing that
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kind of gave me some extra validation at
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like is this team really as good as they
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keep showing is so I watched this video
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this is this video is about 10 days old
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it's Urban Meyer talking with Jerry
11:54
dinardo about Indiana's spread option
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offense and how if EX exed properly it
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is virtually impossible to stop and I
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think we've seen that I mean there's no
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reason that that isn't a true statement
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when you look at the numbers that
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Indiana puts up offensively week in and
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week out I'm sure during the offseason
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when they were installing this type of
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offense the number one goal was to make
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sure like hey if we're all on the same
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page with this it may take you guys a
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few weeks to like fully Buy in
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potentially but we're going to be hard
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to beat and right now things are clearly
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proving themselves with the fact that
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they're still unbeaten and going for
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going for a potential spot in the Big 10
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in the college football
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playoffs yeah it's a clinic I think I I
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tweeted that on Saturday it's just a
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clinic it's te shape it it feels at
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times like they're playing routes on air
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guys are running wide open
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and when you operate that effectively
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it can be a double-edged sword I think
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when and I'm not comparing our offenses
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when I was at in school to this offense
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I think these guys are a lot better um
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but when we would get on people we could
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score in a hurry and yeah we are
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virtually Unstoppable at
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times but on the flip side we would
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score really fast because we were
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Unstoppable and then the defense is on
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the field the whole game so you're kind
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of you're always playing with time of
13:27
possession and getting your guys AR rest
13:28
and scoring continuing to
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score we gotten a lot of shootouts a lot
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of 50 to 45 games what's been so
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incredible is their ability to control
13:39
the tempo while still feeling like
13:41
they're on the front foot and feeling
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like they're pressing down on defenses
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and maintaining that
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Unstoppable while giving the defense it
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feels like a little time to adjust and
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make different calls because what we
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would do when we were in school is
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get one play that's positive and then go
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fast so you couldn't make adjustments so
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we were going to get base defense so the
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reads became really easy and then
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there's no way to stop us okay these
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guys take their time so you're getting
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calls in from the sideline on defense
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and you still can't stop that's what's
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so unbelievable and then you pair it
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with the defense and a defensive line
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that is just playing out of their shoes
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out of their skin I don't even like that
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watching them terrorize the back field
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on Saturday this is not an offensive
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line from you know the FCS yeah this is
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Michigan State who's won four games in
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Big 10 on a big 10 schedule like they've
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won four games this year they just took
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it to Michigan on the ground they smoked
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Iowa and Indiana just I mean they might
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as well not even been there is there
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anything specifically about Michigan
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that you think Indiana needs to watch
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out for I I don't know how much you've
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watched of Michigan but was there
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anything that in maybe in passing that
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you think could give them an advantage
15:06
even though that they haven't looked the
15:08
best this year I think that's the
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biggest thing that can give give them an
15:11
advantage is they look like
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trash lost my mouse yeah you're good uh
15:18
they look like trash it looks like they
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have no chance to score any points ever
15:23
and I think they're getting a little
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better with their two quarterback system
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I was sad to see Jack Tuttle retired
15:29
good for him um definitely take care of
15:31
yourself first but would have been cool
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to have that reunion um but I think that
15:36
what they do on defense they're always
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gonna have a good D line and a couple
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good
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DBS that's what's going to scare you I
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think they're I I haven't watched them a
15:47
ton this year but with Harbaugh and shr
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Moore is a underst study of Harbaugh
15:51
they always played man coverage said our
15:54
guys are better than your guys and
15:55
brought a lot of pressure so I think
15:57
that that if they're still doing that I
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will be the first to admit I haven't
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been able to stomach watching Michigan
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it's just brutal to
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watch uh that to me is also kind of like
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their their the biggest key for Indiana
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is and it's you know we sound like
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broken records of course but get off to
16:15
a fast start like you've done most of
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the season so far because this Michigan
16:20
offense is going to struggle putting
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points on the board if you if you put
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pressure on the merly it feels like if
16:25
you get a two touchdown lead the game's
16:27
kind of over is feels like if you just
16:30
weird to say against any Michigan team
16:32
being honest if you don't uh don't let
16:35
the game get ugly Michigan's gon to try
16:37
to muck it up they're gonna be nasty uh
16:41
they've always been a little bit nasty
16:43
before after kind of plays and a little
16:45
bit it's easy to get drawn into what
16:48
they're doing um if you're catching what
16:51
I'm saying like yeah not not dirty
16:53
necessarily but they're trying to get
16:55
under skin they're trying to get you to
16:56
get chippy um staying out of those
16:59
stupid little
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games it's a I think this game more than
17:04
any game is a do your job game like
17:07
execute what you need to do
17:11
individually more so than anything else
17:14
because if you allow them to suck you in
17:16
and make it ugly then you got a dog
17:18
fight but if you don't allow that to
17:20
happen I mean this game I don't I saw
17:22
the spread at 12 and a
17:24
half way is other than when Indiana
17:27
played their non-conference schedules is
17:29
this their largest spread so far of the
17:31
Season uh I was thinking it was in a
17:35
while I can't no no Northwestern was
17:37
around 14 was it not I don't know it was
17:40
maybe it's not the biggest but either
17:42
way I did see this Indiana hasn't been
17:45
favored against Michigan since I think
17:46
the 60s something along those lines I
17:48
don't have the number right in front of
17:49
me the year but the fact that Indiana
17:53
even being favored not only being
17:54
favored by but by double digits that's
17:58
uh I would guess that spread gets to
18:00
about 14 and a half I think it went from
18:02
12 to 14 pretty quickly from what I saw
18:06
on is it already line was released well
18:08
if I had my mouse that for some reason
18:10
decided to run away from me a couple
18:11
minutes ago I'd look it up but okay
18:14
shoot if it's 14 I should have got in on
18:16
12 um I did not usually I make my bets
18:19
on Monday but oh uh yeah I mean it's
18:23
it's a game that can get ugly on both
18:26
sides of the spectrum I think there's a
18:29
chance that if you allow Michigan
18:32
to to muck it up it can be a dog fight
18:36
if you don't allow Michigan to muck it
18:37
up this can be another 50 to 10 type
18:40
game and also this is I thought I
18:42
thought I'd mention this by now but I
18:44
don't think I have this is essentially a
18:46
college football playoff playin game if
18:49
you're Indiana because at that point the
18:51
only thing left on your schedule is Ohio
18:53
State and Purdue and I believe the talk
18:56
for most of the season and I hope this
18:57
Reigns true is that no matter what
19:00
happens in Ohio State if you take care
19:02
of business against Purdue in the final
19:03
game an 11-1 record should get you in
19:06
the playoff in some way shape or form I
19:09
would hate to be proven wrong about that
19:12
but I don't see any reason why this
19:14
can't be considered a sort of a playin
19:17
type of a game for the hooers we'll find
19:20
out tomorrow or whenever if this
19:21
releases that's true based on what the
19:23
committee thinks of thinks of Indiana
19:25
that's true yeah I mean if they get to
19:28
11 or 12 this is not a playin game and
19:31
you're probably gonna have to beat Ohio
19:32
State if you're at six to eight then
19:35
yeah kind of um bar any crazy Miracle
19:39
surprise in the last game of the season
19:42
put up a fight against Ohio State and
19:44
you're probably in but I'm not ready to
19:46
say put up a fight against Ohio State
19:48
everything I've
19:50
seen tells me whatever the line is
19:53
Hammer the hoers money line if you're
19:55
getting money um I just I don't know
19:59
based
20:00
on and I could be a homer whatever but
20:03
just based on what you
20:05
see I don't think there's really much to
20:09
exploit on offense defense or special
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teams for Indiana um there's a lot to
20:15
exploit for Ohio State I don't think the
20:17
quarterback's very good I don't think
20:18
the offensive Line's very good they've
20:20
got some special special players on the
20:22
outside and they've got a couple good
20:23
running backs I think they're solid on
20:25
defense
20:26
but they got more holes than Indiana
20:28
does
20:30
I think who you bet in that
20:32
game will depend on how much you value
20:34
Ohio stadium
20:37
um and the one other thing too that
20:39
we'll and and really it'll be two teams
20:41
fighting for different things or I mean
20:43
really the same thing but a different
20:44
Fashions but Ohio State needs to beat
20:47
Indiana I think that needs to be said
20:49
too Indiana doesn't necessarily have to
20:51
beat them you know it would kind of lock
20:53
up some stuff for you if you do beat
20:55
them but Ohio state will be playing with
20:58
the real ization that they need to win
20:59
that
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game yeah but then you beat Ohio State
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if you're Indiana and you're playing the
21:05
Big 10 Championship with a chance to get
21:06
a buy yeah so there's two totally
21:10
different ways to look at it but Ohio
21:12
state will be if my guess is if they get
21:15
beat by
21:17
Indiana they'll drop to you know that
21:21
10-11 spot they won't play on conference
21:23
Championship weekend and we're running
21:26
out of spots for teams so
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they'll be at the mercy of of everybody
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else at that point if they have two
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losses exactly you lose control of your
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destiny so take care of business against
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Michigan I I think that it's a take care
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of business game do your job they just I
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don't believe they have the Firepower um
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I've said it all year Chiron Moore's a
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bum and he hasn't proven me otherwise so
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far they just they look mostly
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incompetent in a lot of phases but they
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will be good on defense they will be
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really physical and it'll be up to
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Indiana
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up front they've done it all year but
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just to continue to to step up to that
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challenge and impose your will because
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the games won at the line of scrimmage
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that's why Indiana's been so successful
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we can talk about the quarterback we can
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talk about the wide receivers they've
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won the game with their offensive line
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and their front seven on defense that's
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been the most impressive part of the
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team um and you got a quarterback that
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could be in a Heisman conversation so I
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think that's saying a lot about the guys
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up front um but it just said
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it's an opportunity to take it to a team
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that people generally see as blue blood
22:35
they should be good they should be
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beating everybody and even though
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they're a little down this year it's a
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notch in the belt with a a marquee
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program National Title defending
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champs go smack them around for 60
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minutes and uh take a break get ready
22:51
for the big game that's true we have one
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more by week I keep forgetting about the
22:54
second bye that's coming up here yeah so
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this is I'm hoping that we get the uh
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I'm really excited about the bye because
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I have to go to Arizona next week um
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that's good timing that's a hell of a
23:06
good timing right now I fly back the
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Saturday of Ohio State um so I'm hoping
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it's a night game because if it is I
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think I get in at like 10 o'clock and
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I'm gonna go to the game if you want to
23:16
go oh man trip up to Columbus to take on
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the Buckey wouldn't that be something
23:22
I've been to Ohio stadium one time but
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it was not for a game I was able to find
23:26
my way inside and MD Ohio stadium and it
23:29
is I mean it's something if you've never
23:31
been I mean you've been there you played
23:32
there what the hell am I thinking but
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you know outside of being on the field
23:36
itself it is definitely something to you
23:38
know step into from the stand that's for
23:40
sure yeah we uh we didn't get the crazy
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Michigan crowd that's probably in there
23:46
but it was sold out one the most
23:48
satisfying feelings scoring a touchdown
23:50
telling everybody just CM down be quiet
23:53
you all in the
23:55
stands very satisfying oh man all right
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we'll go and wrap this thing up today
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they do have a chance to do something
24:02
special and basically like that will
24:04
that will be the got a chance I hate to
24:05
say it doesn't make the well I'm getting
24:08
ahead of myself when I say this if you
24:10
win that game it kind of I don't want to
24:13
say diminishes the Purdue game because
24:15
at that point you're like wow we're
24:17
we're playing for a perfect season get
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to dude against your rival potentially
24:20
that's really what it is at that point
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but I did throw out this this is a
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terrible thing to end the the segment
24:26
with but imagine being 11 and 11 and0
24:29
and finding a way to lose to Purdue in
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your final game of the season there
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ain't no way I run out there and start
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slicing
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ankles yeah you can't you can all you
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cannot allow that you just cannot I
24:41
don't that's not even a possibility
24:43
there's no world where that I shouldn't
24:45
have said it right there's no world
24:46
where that happens none those guys stink
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they will continue to stink their City
24:53
stinks they just stink all around we
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cannot lose to them ever again
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well there
24:59
you not while Sig's here all right
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Mitchell I appreciate your time as
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always we'll go ahead and we'll go and
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put a bow on this one and do it again
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next week let's do it goers
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