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The question is, should he get a peace prize
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Quite a lot of conversations going on about this. Joining me to discuss it is Colin Parry, OBE
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who has got a Global Award for World Peace recipient and co-founder of the Tim Parry, Jonathan Ball Peace Foundation
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created after his son. Tim was killed by an IRA bomb in Warrington in 1993
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Colin, thank you very much indeed for joining me. Should Donald Trump win a Nobel Peace Prize
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The short answer is no. I can't think of any reasons why he should
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I mean, I realise he's putting himself around a lot these days and where he can use his power of personality
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he is making some positive changes. But I can't help but think the way he's abandoned
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or seems to have abandoned Ukraine, and leaves Netanyahu free to do what he does in Gaza
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are major reasons why he shouldn't get such an award. but then president obama got this award in uh in 2009 for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen
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international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples for doing absolutely nothing if that true well i mean what did he do i mean apparently they gave it to him for encouragement at the time but he hadn he hadn achieved any peace anywhere as far as i can
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remember no no me no me and i i didn't realize that he was expecting to get a peace award but
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well he got one he got one uh obama but look the the the argument that supporters of trump who
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believe this and uh including one um republican congressman from georgia buddy carter who is
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nominating him to the Norwegian Nobel Committee. So is the government of Pakistan for the role that he played
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in brokering that ceasefire between India and Pakistan. The Indians say that he didn't play a role
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The Pakistanis say he played a very important role. And also now this Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda truce
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following talks by Marco Rubio and the Abraham Accords, which he brokered, and the Serbia-Kosovo truce talks as well
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on economic normalisation. I mean, there's quite a lot there, isn't there
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Well, there is, and many of those I've heard nothing about. I mean, they may not be making the news where I live
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because I'm largely unaware of many of those you've just listed. But it seems to me the ones I put back to you at the beginning
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particularly Ukraine and Gaza seem to me are the places exactly where he could be applying the pressure he has at his disposal to bring about meaningful change and a chance for the likes of Ukraine to get some kind of normality back
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You don't think bombing Iran, Iranian nuclear facilities and then swearing at the camera
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and getting people to cease fire is actually enough grounds to get a Nobel Peace Prize
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No, no, I don't. I mean, if the bombing was as successful as his people say it was
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although there seems to be some doubt, then good. I mean, it means good news for many Iranians
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But that's just using his force, like the big guy in the schoolyard who says do it and people do it
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The ones which are sort of going nowhere, the processes which are going nowhere, the ones I mentioned, are crying out for him to use his good influences
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I understand that particular point. What would your advice be to Donald Trump? Because we know that he wants a peace prize
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you've won a peace prize yourself not a nobel one but a global award for world peace
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if you were advising him uh colin what would your advice be to the president
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well i think in my case i guess the award was given because my family my wife and i decided we
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should speak to the likes of ira leaders um because we felt if we could adopt a measured tone it might make some difference to the ingrained war that had gone on for so long
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I don't know whether it really counted or not, but people kinder than me gave me an award
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I think Donald Trump has so much power at his disposal, and he can use it as he sees fit
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I just, I remember the meeting in the White House in the room with the Ukraine leader
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I mean, that was so deeply humiliating. I think the whole world felt so much sympathy for the Ukrainian leader
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And I felt at that point in time, he demonstrated the dark side of Donald Trump
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where he treated him in a disgraceful fashion, humiliated him. And they're not the actions of somebody who is instinctively a peacemaker
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Yes, he can wield his power. Yes, he's got armed forces that could rival anybody's
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Who knows about the Chinese, but certainly could rival the Russians. But that's not what peacemaking is all about
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It's about building honest, straightforward and truthful relationships and using your power for good
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And I don't think he does. Thank you very much indeed. Colin, that was Colin Parry, OBE Global Award winner for
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well, World Peace, Global Award for World Peace recipient
