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I'm the only person that's got sufficient public report
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and the courage to take on the establishment and do what needs to be done
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So you could be the Prime Minister? Yes. I find the thought of him quite terrifying
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High-level, high-maintenance man with dodgy teeth and a stinking breath. Who's compared Nigel Farage to Hitler in the mainstream media
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First of all, what a fantastic caller that previous guy was. He outboxed you on every point
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Tim Montgomery. Fantastic caller, yeah. What a fantastic guest. Stole a lot of the points that I was going to make
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Let me tell you why we need Nigel Farage and we need a change
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If we strip away all the rhetoric, let's stop comparing him opaquely to Hitler
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and all this kind of stuff that the modern sort of mainstream media..
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He's compared him to Hitler? Well, the mainstream media saying, blaming migrants for this and migrants..
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But Rob, hold on, who's compared Nigel Farage to Hitler in the mainstream media
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I hear this all the time. From who? About various mainstream media outlets
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Where? And people that call in. Who? Well, I haven't got the names
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That's not what I've rang up to. You told me that everyone keeps comparing Nigel Farage to Hitler
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so I'm wondering who's doing this. In terms of we start off by blaming immigrants and we end up, you know
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in the awful... Who in the mainstream media is comparing Nigel Farage to Hitler? Right
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with painting him as an extreme, extreme racist... It's not comparing him to Hitler
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Right. Can I answer you... No, not for a moment, Rob, because you've told me that everyone in the mainstream media
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of which I'm part, is comparing him to Hitler. What I get tired..
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You can't give me a single example of it. Right. Let me answer the question I rang him for
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No, just on this, though. Give me one example where someone in the mainstream media
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has compared Nigel Farage to Adolf Hitler. Right. Right. They present him as the slip and reform as the slippery, narrow end of the wedge
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That's not the same as comparing him to Hitler, Rob. If you just let me finish, if you just let me finish, very often they say things like
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oh, always blaming immigrants, migrants for this, that and the other. He's a racist, he's this, the other
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And very often I've heard it across lots of mainstream media. Right, so if Nigel Farage is accused of demonising migrants or even being racist
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you equate that as people comparing him to the Nazis. No, if you let me finish my complete sentence
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what they then very often do is make references to what's happened in history
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and they are referring to Germany and the atrocities that were carried out then
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which I don't think is accurate, realistic or helpful. Let me tell you why I think Nigel Farage will win the next election
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Number one, he is a man of the moment. If we look back in history, from people like Winston Churchill to Tony Blair
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these people had a knack of reading the room, reading society, reading global issues
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and stepping up to the plate. If you are appointing a successful candidate to a job
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You have to look at the candidates that are available and let's have a look at the previous candidates and people that have had this job
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It won't take long. I won't waste too much time on it. The previous Conservatives, goodness knows how many Prime Ministers they had
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Boris Johnson was a clown. Liz Truss, they hollowed out the public sector
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They brought the country to its knees, including Defence and the Armed Services
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Rob, you're not going to find much trouble, I don't think, with a lot of people that recent prime ministers have not covered themselves in glory
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The question is, what convinces you that Nigel Farage would be better
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I am going to tell you now. Labour have just almost been almost wiped out at the local elections
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They are a busted flush. The old ways and systems don't work
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Nigel Farage, OK, is in touch with mainstream society, is in touch with mainstream people
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What do you think he'd do differently in practice to previous prime ministers
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Not policy, as a leader, how would he be different? I think as a leader, he would like, he does when he goes on question time
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number one, he answers questions. He gives direct questions, direct answers to questions
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We are all sick of watching Question Time and listening to you
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He doesn't when you ask him about the money he was received from a crypto billionaire. I completely agree
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He starts shouting at the interviewer. I completely agree. He needs to get that sorted, raise his game
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You can't put yourself forward. You just said he answers direct questions. He doesn't when it's tricky for him
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Most of the time. On that occasion, he let himself down big time
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And I completely agree with you. I think he is somebody that will do his uppermost best to stand up to Europe but stand up to Europe I think he will bring in some policies that the average man and the woman in the street in this country want in terms of let look properly at Labour can review welfare The last time Labour tried to review welfare all the backbenchers shouted it down so that that done They can
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defend, they can't invest in defence, they can't reform welfare. We're straying slightly into policy, which is
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legitimate, Rob. I do want to focus this specifically on Farage as a leader
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You mentioned Blair and Churchill. You see him as a sort of modern-day Churchill, do you
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No, I don't see him as a modern-day Churchill. What I do see him as
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is a man of the you have to adjust your politics and policies to the times
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OK? We have no growth in this country. We have what? 0.01 growth
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Look, I'm not going to argue with you that we're in a mess right now and that that's partly down to the political leadership we've had recently
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I mean, but do you trust Farage's judgment? Do you trust his work ethic
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Do you trust his professionalism? I think when, and I say when, when reform gets into power
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when he gets into these serious corridors and he's surrounded by serious people
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yes, he'll do a bit of showboating with a pint of ale and all of that
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but Boris did that. You know, Kia puts a hard hat on
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and they all do this nonsense. I think when he gets in the hard corridors of power
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and he's getting briefings from people, you know, that... But Robbie's in the corridors of power now
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He's an elected MP, he's an elected representative of this country, one of only 650
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and he hasn't voted in Parliament for 11 weeks. There's been 77 votes in that time
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and Nigel Farage has missed every single one. Does that not raise questions about his seriousness
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and his desire to put the graft in? I agree. I agree
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And I tell you what, if we've got a Nigel Farage who had voted
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and who had turned up and done all these things, I think he needs to raise his game
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I'm not saying he's perfect. I hear you. Interesting call. Thank you very much indeed, Rob
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And he's called from Cornforth in Lancashire on the latter of those questions
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is Nigel Farage up to the job? Annie? Absolutely not. And I also think that he's not what people think he is
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It made me laugh when you played that clip and he said, I'm the only person that can stand up to the establishment
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He is the establishment. You know, he's been educated in an extremely expensive private school
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He was a city trader. He is a millionaire. He hangs out with millionaires and billionaires and is funded by them
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The reason why he's not voting in Parliament or never been seen in Clacton hardly ever is because he's too busy swanning off all over the world making money and also hanging out with his best mate Trump
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Well, he would say he's also campaigning around the country and he's raising money and being a party leader
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I mean, you're right. He is in terms of his upbringing and so on, his career, his trajectory
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He absolutely embodies and epitomises British establishment. I guess the argument is in his views and his outlook and his policies
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that's where he's anti-establishment but you don't buy it No I think he's a fake anti-elitist and I think he's quite dangerous
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I mean as a disabled person and as a woman I find the thought of him quite terrifying
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getting rid of the Equalities Act he said fairly recently that he wants to see less divorce and less abortion
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now the only way he could achieve that is by legislation and we've seen what's happened in America
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and he's very much on the Trump playbook for just about everything
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So, you know, I think women should be quite alarmed at the thought of him being prime minister
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He's a climate change denier. He wants to take us out of the ECHR
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I don't think he's... He denies climate change but he's certainly very sceptical about net zero
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And on abortion, I think he said he wouldn't change the law but you're right. He's certainly more sceptical about it
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or more negative about it than a lot of our other politicians are. What do you think he'd be like as a sort of separate to what he'd do, Annie
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in terms of policies? How do you think he'd get and handle the challenges of leading a country
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Not very well, I shouldn't think. I think he's actually quite lazy in terms of, you know
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when he was in the European Parliament, he never used to turn up to things
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He was always too busy just doing what he wanted to do. I don't feel he cares about the people of this country
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I think he just wants power and he wants power to change things in a way that suit his friends who are wealthy and the people who back him who are also very, very wealthy
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So I don't think all this, you know, standing outside a pub with a glass of beer, you know, that's just fake
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He doesn't do that kind of thing. He hangs out with very, very wealthy people and they don't go to pubs
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You get to do a lot of hanging out with wealthy people if you're prime minister. So maybe he'd quite enjoy it
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I don't think he would. Probably hang out with the leader of Saudi Arabia
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and those kinds of people who are, you know, very wealthy. But he, you know, I mean, he wants to bring an ICE-type organisation to this country
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We're seeing what's happening in America. You know, this is the man he is
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And look at all the people he went to school with who have accused him. Over 20 people, I think, who have accused him of saying the most appalling racist
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Which he sort of hasn really denied He says it was a long time ago Thank you Annie I don think he would enjoy the job of being Prime Minister for as well I think he would hate every single second he was in Downing Street He a man who likes to have a good time who likes to be adored
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and you don't have a good time as Prime Minister. It's an incredibly tough, gruelling job
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and you end up, whatever you do, being hated by a lot of people. Morning, Jan. Hi. He is absolutely not the right man to be Prime Minister
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He is a danger to this country, and I know lots of cheeky chappies will go
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oh, she's talking rubbish. He incites hatred. Think back to the COVID lockdown
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There was a big rumour went around that toilet rolls were running out
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so people were bulk buying toilet rolls, OK? He does that in terms of race and so on
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Oh, God, we're being invaded. If we had stayed in the EU
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we would not have the problem we have today with the boats because we don't have that connection with France
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to be able to work out who. I don't know about that, Jack. I mean, a lot of people coming here illegally
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when we were part of the European Union. Listen, I get that
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because I've been through Calais enough times to know how high the best thing is
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Exactly, but they were mainly Europeans. But that's not what I want to talk about
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There's two things people do not speak about. If you were to Google
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the amount of reform candidates and so on and so forth, who've mentioned their admiration for what Hitler did
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the Nazis, Nazi salutes. No one talks about that. And when I think of the North
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I think of all the young lads in the 1940s and the 1930s
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that put their uniforms on to go and sort out a tyrant
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who lost their lives, who left children. And I know for a lot of people they won't understand
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They're not in a war and they've never, you know, they can't..
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He's nothing like Hitler, Jan. Come on. Listen, Hitler didn't start. He didn't start by being a tyrant
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He was a nondescript little man who surrounded by bullies, just like Trump, is surrounded by yes men
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Why does everything have to be compared to Hitler and the Nazis? Because when you have admiration for one of the most evil tyrants ever..
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Who? Trump? Who do you think the most evil tyrant is? Sorry, because I'm not as clever as you, so I can't put it as articulately..
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No, sorry, Jack, it's me. It's me that's misunderstanding. It's nothing to do with you at all. Are you saying because some of his support
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some of his candidates have expressed support for Hitler, then it's legitimate to compare him to what happened in Nazi Germany
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when he has his own record at school by 26 different people
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not one kid in the class, 26, there's a problem. Show me the boy at seven and I'll show you the man at 60
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But let me tell you this as well, okay? He's taking people for fools
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He is a highly high-level, high-maintenance man with dodgy teeth and a stinking breath
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because he smokes and he is he gives not a dot nothing zero for the working classes he wants
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rid of unions he wants rid of rights he is not for the people he was asking the trade unions
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he was asking the trade unions this week to affiliate with reform i don't think he wants
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to get rid of them because it looks good it looks oh look i'm one of the people i understand
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And unions, the pushback from the unions, they were livid. No one talks about the pushbacks
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No one talks about the reality of Farage. And look at what's happening in America
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You've got, at the moment, inflation at 4%. Gas prices have risen by 50%
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You've got other parties trying to bring the cost down. Trump is laughing and saying, oh, you know, it's a big joke
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And this is what Farage, and most importantly of all, When you show admiration for a man in Russia as the top leader
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when you've got the likes of Winston Churchill, but he actually prefers Putin
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And if people cannot see that, I'm old. I'm off this planet, so it doesn't matter to me
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But I hope to God the young will have the now to fight back
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because they're going to need to fight back. If he wins, this country becomes a dictatorship
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A dictatorship. A dictatorship. What do you think he would do that would be dictatorial, Joan
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You don't think he won't go into schools, he won't go anywhere that people have their own opinions, universities
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You think he won't cancel elections? What are you suggesting he would do to become a dictator
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Well, Trump is trying to do that. Trump is redistricting. He's doing all the stuff in America
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I'd agree Trump is increasingly resembling a dictator. Why do you think Farage would follow suit
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Farage is little Trump. Farage is a hybrid of Putin and Trump, and he is
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and i'll stand in front of his face and say he wants end of the nhs he'll tell you just like
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what makes you think nigel farage wants to end the nhs because if you look at his buddies aaron
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banks is absolutely for it aaron bank that not nigel farage there a lot of conjecture here jan and i just think Look I just think we need to be careful respectfully There a lot you can critique Nigel Farage on
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My goodness, I've done it. I did it on my show this week on LBC. But for me, the Nazi comparisons and the sort of
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oh, well, Aaron Banks thinks it, so Nigel Farage therefore is going to scrap the NHS
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There's enough factual evidence that we can take on Farage on without sort of, I don't know
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without making claims that are, I think, a bit dubious. But they're not claims
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They're not claims. I think Nigel Fry is not going to abolish the NHS if he becomes Prime Minister
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He is going to bring in insurance. He wants insurance-based. And where I linked Aaron Banks
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if you please just hear me out, he now belongs to a big American insurance company
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He's ripe for the picking. His go-go skippy or whatever his car
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is now a bigger insurance company. These people have strategies. All right. Interesting
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A lot of people get in touch, Jan, I must say, say you're spot on. You're absolutely right
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A lot of support coming in the text. Thank you for the call. I wouldn't..
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I think there's a lot you can critique Nigel Farage on, personally, without saying he was going to become a dictator
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and sort of comparing us to Nazi Germany. Personally, Jan, a lot of people disagree and agree with you
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Thank you for the call. Thank you
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