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You're also responsible for U-turns in reform
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because one minute Farage is saying that he wants to scrap the two-child benefit cap for British couples who are both in work
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And then Robert Jenrick comes in and we have this conservatisation of reform
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and suddenly you've abandoned that policy. So what are you doing about the two-child benefit cap
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You've scrapped your plan to scrap the cap. What we have said, so first of all, the original position was
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as you said, that we would scrap it only for British workers when both people were in work
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That would have, in the end, effectively kept the cap for north of 99% of recipients
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Now, you talk about U-turns. What we're being clear about with the British people is what the reform government would do if we won the next general election
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And what we are saying is, frankly, the country's finances are not in a position to lift the cap
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So you have U-turned on that policy? Well, what we've done is say we were originally going to lift it only for less than 1%, Camilla
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Let's be honest about this. It's a U-turn, then. For less than 1% of the recipients to saying we would not be able to do that until the country's finances were..
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You turned on the policy after Robert Jenrick joined reform. Camilla, we're talking about..
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You did. I was there. I was at the press conference. So we've stated our position ahead of the next general election
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But again, I want to be crystal clear. We have not gone from saying that we would lift the cap to keeping the cap
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We've gone from saying we would lift the cap for less than 1% of recipients to saying that we would not be able to do that given the current state of the nation's finances
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I'm merely making the point that all parties change their minds sometimes and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that
