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And Cathy, it's incredible that it takes a Supreme Court to make a prime minister
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make his mind about something which a toddler can tell is true. Nevertheless, there we are
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Do you, however, have any faith? OK, the holly route today, the SNP has said they will also accept this
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but we're learning as well that 28 NHS trusts across London are simply ignoring the rules
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There's even a rebellion, it appears, from within the Labour Party on this. Do you have faith that despite the fact this is legally now precedented and set in cement
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that people are just going to try and ignore it, that trans extremists will carry on regardless
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Well, women who have been involved in this for at least the last decade
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will know how awful, how nasty, how toxic this has been. And it's come from one direction only
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It's come towards the women who have dared assert their rights and stand up for their sex-based rights in law
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It's been horrific. You know, J.K. Rowling said she could have papered her house with the rape and death threats she's received
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You know many women and you not just myself but many women have attended sort of meetings and various different events where we had to sort of run the gauntlet of you know horrendous banners outside sort of calling for our death and destruction to be quite frank Chanting you know saying some extraordinarily offensive things about us wishing violence upon us You know we seen this in the rallies at the weekend as well haven we really with those awful threats being issued
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And we've sat in meetings where there have been baying mobs outside, banging on the windows and trying to get in
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You know, I've been in many of those meetings myself. So the bravery of the women who brought this action before the Supreme Court for Women's Scotland can't be overstated, really, as is the case for all the women's groups involved in this, including the Women's Rights Network that I represent
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And to go back to sort of one of your questions there, Martin, you know, when you touched upon the NHS trusts, you know, women have been put, vulnerable women have been put in hospital wards that have purportedly been single sex hospital wards and there have been men in them
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You know, I'm a retired police officer. I've been fighting a long fight with the police service nationally who've been determined to bring in opposite sex, strip and intimate searching and have sort of signed off on policies to do that
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is quite extraordinary given all that they say about being dedicated to dealing with violence against women and girls
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So we shouldn't underestimate how much huge organisations have been prepared to sell off women's rights and go along with this
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It's going to take a long time to pull all those policies out
