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Well, I think there's a strong commitment to localism, which Lib Dems have always had. But look, you've just had this huge debate in your studio. There's this huge global debate going on. For most people, what they do each day can't have an impact on that. But there is one thing that you can do as an individual, if you're frustrated by all of this, and that is to back British products. Back our farmers, back the local shop, and just think carefully where you're buying your products from
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Now, if everybody did that, it could have a huge difference. So I think it's patriotic, but it's also a sensible policy because it means we support our local businesses and our communities in this country
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What's wrong with that? And finally, it sends Donald Trump a bit of a message that you can't push us around
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We're also patriotic. We also want to support our country. Now, Mark Oton, there'll be 17.4 million Brexiteers at home throwing their hats in the air going
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I agree 100% with Mark Oton. Support Britain, support British farmers, buy British produce
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But when the Brexit party, when Nigel Farage, when the 17.4 million people said that in the past
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the Liberal Democrats call them little Englanders. You called us xenophobes. What's changed
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What's changed is Donald Trump has come along and started to break down free trade
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Liberal Democrats still want free trade We wouldn want to be in this position But there a reality check here We have to be seen to be doing something We have to support our local communities And there is nothing illiberal about wanting to back your local community to invest in local businesses That not a Brexit issue That
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a patriotic issue about supporting some fantastic talent, whether it's in the fashion industry
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whether it's some of the best farming that we have in the globe. I think that's entirely
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consistent with a liberal policy, which also incidentally is about sustainable buying
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If we're not travelling around the globe, if we're not bringing products across on planes
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and in boats, it's actually more sustainable to be buying locally. So for me, this ticks a lot of boxes
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Mark Oton, I have never agreed more with a Liberal Democrat in my life
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And as we're getting on so well, can I ask you a quick question? Do you concur
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There's been a Brexit bonus. We should be thankful to Brexit because we haven't been hit by 20% tariffs
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We've only been hit by 10%. Come on, Mark. You're going for Brexit today
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Admit there's been a Brexit bonus. You're pushing the love in a little bit too much
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I would argue that all of the things which have gone wrong outweigh this difference we have between 20% and 10%
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But I have to say, on this, I think Starmer is playing it correctly
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Come on. There's been a Brexit bonus, Mark, hasn't there? Oh, a little one then, Martin
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You dragged it out. Yes! well done mate see what they love it
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and the loving reason Zenith Mark Oton former Lib Dem MP a fantastic interview
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thanks for joining me on the show
