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There is no direct relevance here
0:02
It would do nothing but shame Sadiq Khan into having to come up with some answers
0:08
So why on earth would he do it? And Nigel Farage must have known that when it was suggested
0:16
Well, yes, and I hear the point that was made. However, London is the capital of the UK
0:22
So it is kind of the camera on the UK that the whole world sees
0:27
So it's a little bit, you know, if it was a different town in the UK, I could kind of understand that argument
0:34
But it's everybody's capital. London is everybody's capital. And as Nigel Farage's leader of the current party romping it in the polls and, you know, with clear leads over all of the rest of the parties
0:48
it's a valid question for him to ask because London is ours
0:52
You know, I don't live in London. I used to live in London. My daughter lives in London, which is a constant worry, particularly with some of these figures that I gave out earlier
1:01
But it's everybody's capital in the UK. And therefore, Nigel is quite right in asking for a debate in terms of, you know, as I say, you know, he's the he's the leading politician in the country at the moment
1:13
And therefore, he's going to ask the debate. But as I said earlier I can understand why Sadiq Khan would run away and not want to have it because frankly frankly his record is shameful And so once again he dodge you know show the cowardice and run away from the question
1:30
And, you know, so it's no surprise that he's turned it down, because that's just basically what he does
1:34
Because he can't be held to account. He doesn't want to be held to account because he's doing such a disastrous job in London
1:43
The capital of the UK, all of the UK citizens' capital. Karl, do you think this is indicative of a wider issue that we have in society now
1:53
that we've just lost the art of debate, that we all are in these echo chambers
1:57
and there's many people who just don't want to engage with people who have opposite political views to them
2:04
I love a good political debate. I wouldn't be on this show if I didn't
2:09
But there's a time and a place for them. And I think more than debating culture being lost
2:15
What this shows is there's a sort of current right-wing fixation with London, one to portray it as a sort of lawless hellhole to make wider points about crime and immigration
2:28
And we can all understand why it's in Nigel Farage's interest to have a big culture war route on the television about these issues
2:36
But that's nothing to do with the interests of the people of London
2:40
And quite frankly, it's not really anything to do with Sadiq Khan's job, which is to run the city he was elected to represent
