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Emmanuel Macron, I mean, I should pick one at random here
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I was going to go for the Independent. I mean, Macron, we must shoulder the burden of keeping Europe safe
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It appears he's, you know, supposedly we're going to get this one-in-one idea. Well, what do you make of what you've seen from this state visit so far
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Is it good? Is it a little bit simpering, maybe, towards Emmanuel Macron
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It's probably a bit too early to say, but certainly the attitude of this government has been simpering
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towards the EU in general. and it does apporn me that we're still trying to rely on France
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to solve the problem of the boats when, you know, we have given them huge amounts of money
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hundreds of millions of pounds, and they've done absolutely nothing for it
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I mean, they're often photographed, French policemen, just standing on the shore watching as the boats leave France
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So, I mean, I think Stalmers' approach is generally naive. I think the one out, one in, I don't understand at all
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It means if you return an illegal migrant to France, you have to take another one
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I mean, I don't mean another illegal one. You have to take a legal one. So, you know, one in, one out means no progress at all
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So I think it's ridiculous. But there is one thing that Macron has said which is right
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And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Macron actually has got it right
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When he says that the fault lies with us because we are one of the most attractive countries in the world THE BORDER IS THE BORDER IS THE BORDER IS THE don practice detention We don have national identity cards We do have a flourishing underground economy
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And that combination is what attracts people to come here because the message that Britain
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sends out is if you come to Britain, you're very unlikely to be removed. That is the message
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that goes out, and until we reverse that message, we will lose this battle
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How embarrassing is it for Sir Keir Starmer to hear that from..
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So that is an outsider's perspective of Britain. We know that the Americans think it as well, that's one thing
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but Emmanuel Macron is kind of like Keir... Supposedly Keir Starmer's big mate
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Certainly Keir Starmer certainly wants to be his mate. How embarrassing for Sir Keir Starmer is it to hear that
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Well, all I can say is some mate, given that he hasn't helped at all with the vote crisis
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But yes, of course, it's embarrassing. But to be fair, to be perfectly fair
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it isn't just this government which has made Britain so attractive. It has been a magnet for illegal migration
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for decades, and it has been the fault of successive governments. I've been saying this, Dashiell
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since 1999, when I was Shadow Home Secretary, that we make it too easy to disappear
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I've said it time and time again. and successive governments, Conservative, Labour, Coalition
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anything you like to name, just have done nothing about it