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Britain has 'no identity' for migrants to integrate into, Dr Hoenderkamp tells GB News
Aug 26, 2025
Britain's ongoing flag row has sparked a fiery clash on GB News, as commentator Nigel Nelson argued that the patriotic display could be perceived as "divisive".Debating the campaign by Britons on GB News, Dr Renee Hoenderkamp shut down Mr Nelson's remarks, stating that it is "our national flag" and "our identity".FULL STORY HERE.
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These stupid women tearing down this flag
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Oh, that's a word for them. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. But? But what it actually demonstrates is we have no identity in this country
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for our young people and some of our older people to buy into. Yes
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And when you lose that identity, you get this fractured society that we are now seeing
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where nobody's allowed to rally round and say, this is British. And then what it does is when we have mass migration
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it doesn't allow the migrants to buy into anything because nobody knows what it is and we're a bit embarrassed about it
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I'm embarrassed for those girls stamping on the flag and pulling it down
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I don't think they really thought about it. Look at them. And I think what it does, though, is it allows mass migration
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with no integration because there's nothing for them to integrate into. Now, somebody's got in touch on MySay
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and they said they think on this clip, Nigel, that one of them is heard saying something about up Scotland
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you know, we love Scotland, something like that. So maybe that's what that is about
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Where have they done this? What town is this? It's in Yorkshire. It's up in Yorkshire, yeah. In Ripon in Yorkshire
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Well, it's probably not talking about Scotland, maybe. I don't know. It's a very small place, Ripon
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It's a strange thing to do in Yorkshire if you're a big fan of Scotland. But what do they think they are doing
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Well, first of all, it's your attitude to the flags. Now, a load of these flags went up in my street yesterday morning
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I woke up to a street full of lampposts covered in St George's flags
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Did your wife sneak out in the night? No, I don't think she was very happy about them either
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But I have to say I'm not bothered. I think the whole thing is a bit silly
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I think it's a fad. I think people get fed up very quickly about shooting up lampposts to put the flags there
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As far as these women are concerned it looks to me like it was on a lamppost And of course they have as much right to pull it down as the people do to put it up This is public land If you put a flag up in your back garden then you don expect people to come along and remove it
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If you put it up in a public place, as obviously this one was
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then if people object to it, that's up to them. What are they objecting to? Yes, Ed, what's offensive? What are they objecting to
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What can be offensive about an A-national flag fluttering from a lamppost
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Because it could be argued that it's provocative and divisive. Argue about who
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Well, look, my point is I'm not bothered about it. I don't care. Well, who is going to make that argument
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Well, I think I would imagine the women who, in fact, pull that flag down would actually say
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look, St George's flag is divisive, is accepted when you're using it for an England football match
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You see, you said at the beginning, you said when your wife Claire saw the flags
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you said she wasn't happy either, which would suggest that you were not happy either. No, I wasn't particularly. I thought, well, you know
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why have I suddenly got a load of flags along there? I wasn't sort of jumping with joy about it
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Can I ask you a question? But I'm equally not bothered about it. Why not? Why am I not jumping with joy
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Why not have a group of flags down your street? Why not? For that very reason that I suspect the motive of the people who put it there, look..
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Is what? Well, OK. St George was a Greek born in Turkey or possibly Palestine
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Nigel. Are these flags there to support multiculturalism? Nigel. You're being a physical while you're there
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Are they? I don't want to support multiculturalism. Well, there you go. So you've already decided what the flags mean
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No, you know what the flag means? The flag is our national flag
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Our flag should mean identity. Our flag should mean being English, the union, Jack, obviously, the union flag, being British
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Nigel, it's people like you that have allowed this completely ugh approach to our national heritage, to our national pride
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The fact that we have no national pride is the problem. But do you believe these people are putting it up there purely for the reason of the love of the country
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Why not Are they Do you think they are I think you have pushed us too far you people on the left So people are saying no enough We are proud to be British
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If you want to come here, be proud to be British. If you don't, don't come here
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Just to be clear, we have 15 years of a Conservative government, so I don't think we were pushed too far from people on the left, actually
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We've been pushed too far by what? by this watering down of what it is to be British
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in the ambition of a globalist view of the world from our leaders
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who it seems are always putting the needs of other countries first. That's what I think these flags represent
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So people who feel like that have a... They have a point, don't they
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Yeah, but, again, I'm getting at the actual motive behind it. The idea is purely a patriotic gesture, it's love of the country
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It might be. Do you really think that? Why not? It feels like you should post that, you know
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innocent emoji at the bottom of it. That doesn't feel right, given the current circumstances
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So you think the people beneath Slagsup are all secret, closeted, far-right supporters
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No, no, no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not suggesting that it's far-right
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I'm saying that they are being provocative by doing it. I'd say they've been provoked into doing it
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And that's what I think. I really hope that Sir Keir Starmer and his government
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are actually contemplating what is motivating people to assert their national identity in this way
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as opposed to doing what you're doing, Nigel, with the best will in the world, which is to say they are trying to provoke something
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They're not. Every time the Prime Minister... Hang on, every time the Prime Minister speaks
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from his study in Number 10... There's a Union Jack. ..he's draped by the Union flag... Absolutely, yeah
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..because he's decided that looks good with the voters. Yeah, no, absolutely. Is he doing it because he's practical
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or because it looks good with the voters? Do we care about the nation? He is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, so it's appropriate to have a Union Jack there
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In the same way it's appropriate to have St George's flags flying when we're..
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In England. In England Here what you should In Ripon in Yorkshire When we in international competition You know what would be amazing Rene if the Prime Minister came out and he said I love these flags Bring out your flags
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Why isn't he doing that? Why is he not saying, you know what, guys, we are a proud country
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Put your St George's flag up, put your Union Jack up, whatever
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Let's show the world who we are. Why is he not doing that? Why he's not doing that
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Because the position that Nigel is coming from is born from our embarrassment over our colonial past
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And it is that embarrassment over our colonial past and what we have done around the world
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and all of our terrible sins as the oppressor. That is what the association is with our flags
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whether it be the Union flag or the St George's cross. And that embarrassment we have to get over
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We have to say... No-one's embarrassed at a football match. Oh, Nigel. So we're allowed to fly at a football match, but nowhere else
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No, no, it's not a question about where you're allowed to fly. That's why I'm saying that I think that if people put them up on a lamppost, I'm quite happy for them to stay there
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I don't care. If people want to take them down, that's up to them. They have the right to do that, too
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But does it matter what their motives are? Well, I think it does matter what their motives are
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Well, because if you think that the... I mean, you were asking about who actually said they were divisive
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Andy Burnham has made the point that the Cross of St George can be a divisive symbol
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and so... But why? The question then is why is it a divisive symbol? Why has it become that
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Because it has been used then the flag has been used then by the far
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right in previous times. National Front used, the PMD used it. Well, let's reappropriate it. Let's reappropriate it
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Well, that's why I'm not too fussed about it happening because as I say, I think it's a fad that
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will actually disappear. Should you not be proud? Should you not be proud that it's happening
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This idea about being proud to be British I'm pleased to be British
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I'm not proud to be British because I had no hand in the fact I am British
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I'm proud of working for GB News but actually do something here
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But the idea of being proud to be British when it was purely an accident of birth..
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So you were lucky sperm
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