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Should he be investigated by the police? Should Tim Davey resign? What's your view
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I think the police are investigating, so I probably shouldn't say more about that
0:11
I do think the BBC have got questions to answer, as of the organisers of Glastonbury
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about how this particular act came to be given such a prominent platform
0:21
And, of course, the comments that he made were completely disgraceful, but I also suspect were attention-seeking and publicity-seeking
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and actually I think what we ought to be focusing on is the violence against Palestinians in the West Bank this week
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the conduct of Israel's war in Gaza and the fact that even now
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and this is the perverse irony of what we saw at Glastonbury, the people, the Israelis who were taken from a music festival
0:50
killed, raped and still being held captive, those are the serious issues we should be talking about
0:56
which shouldn't be minimalised in the way that I think this act did
1:00
OK, but why aren't you mentioning the violence of Hamas in that little statement
1:07
Well I certainly did in terms of what happened to those innocent Israelis at the music festival on October the 7th Hamas continues to use its own people as human shields
1:19
I mean, why have we got people at Glastonbury not saying death to Hamas
1:23
I mean, it's an unbelievable situation. You must look on Britain right now, see those scenes at Glastonbury
1:29
this complete normalisation of anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish hatred. And I hope, like me, have your head in your hands
1:39
Oh, absolutely. Hamas is a death cult. We should be in no doubt about that
1:43
And I suspect that half of those drunken revellers, in fact, most of those drunken revellers
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wouldn't want to live a single day in life under Hamas. As I say, they are a death cult
1:54
And, you know, none of us would choose to live under that kind of oppression
1:59
And I think we should... It's not for me as a government minister to start dictating to arts organisations
2:07
or indeed broadcasters who you do and do have on your programmes, that's Orwellian
2:12
But I do think we should think seriously about how we exercise the freedoms that we enjoy in this country
2:19
And if people are serious about peace and ending violence, think about what on earth did that achieve yesterday
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that sort of language
