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Hello again everybody and welcome to my YouTube channel. Loads of you enjoyed the interview that I did um on my recent
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video with Russ Bfki about his incredible 160 m dive on the uh wreck of
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the SS Nemesis. Now the great news is he's agreed to come back again and what he's going to do, he's going to talk
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through the full dive video with us. He's also going to show us around the model, the 3D model of the wreck so you
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can really get it in context. and he's going to go into a load more detail on some of the um some of the stuff that
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happened on the dive and particularly the the cell failure that they had. So, or the double cell failure that he had
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rather. So, um it's it's it's going to be great. I think you're going to love it. And uh well, thank you Russ for
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agreeing to join us. Awesome. Thanks, Tom. Thanks for having me. And um I'm glad to be back talking
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about the Nemesis. Brilliant. So, um I think one of the things that we didn't do maybe as much
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as we should on on the last dive is, uh talk about the actual oh, sorry, the last interview is talk about the wreck.
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And this is it. The SS Nemesis, a kind of fairly standard turn of the century
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or turn of the last century rather rather collier, but but clearly a big news story in Australia both at the time
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and and more recently. Yeah, definitely mate. Um so as you can
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see back in the day um 1904 is when she sank and um she was doing that run from
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Melbourne up to Newcastle. Um so going past Sydney and um yeah you can see just
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there um all loss of life uh when she sank and um yeah so no survivors
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unfortunately. Yeah, really really sad um sad news. And
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I think this is this is a kind of a lovely uh you know picture that somebody's uh painted of it as well. And
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you know I think you look at these black and white things and and and it's not quite um you it seems like a long time
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ago something like this I think makes it it seem much more real. Yeah, definitely mate. Um it gives you a
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bit more context on um what sort would have looked like back in the day. um
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almost reminds me of that sort of white star liner type sort of image you would have got with with sort of Titanic. Um
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but yeah, definitely what she would have looked like back in the day. Yeah, fantastic. So, um now the other
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thing obviously we we we kind of skipped over a bit last time is is where this is all happening. So, um Oops, my video is
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just uh There we go. Let's let's start that again. Okay, so uh there we go. That's um that's Australia. I'm sure
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pretty much everyone knows where it is, but the actual geography
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there's Sydney. Yep. And then hour and a half south is Woolingong. Um and then about
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26 km east of that is the uh SS Nemesis right out in the um in the deep blue
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ocean. Yeah. Fantastic. So, you know, miles miles away from land. And diving in
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those kind of uh locations is always I don't know, mentally for me anyway, when you can't see land, it's always um it's
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always a kind of it kind of makes you realize that what you're doing is general, you know,
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genuine exploration, I think. Yeah, definitely. Um just knowing that uh just the simple fact from not being
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able to see um land gives you that sort of out in the wide blue uh type feeling.
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Um, and you like can't put a lot of things into perspective. Um, especially
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if something were to go wrong. Yeah, for certain. And the other thing I think people need to realize is when
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you're diving that far offshore and you've got tides and stuff to worry about, then you inevitably you're starting at early in the morning, aren't
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you? And and this is a photo that you shared showing you and I think that the other three divers with all your mountain of gear.
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Yeah, definitely. So, obviously you can see the boat in the background, quite a lot of deck space, which we're very fortunate to have. And then you can see
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all the um the gears probably probably I wouldn't say almost all it's probably maybe about half but there's a few
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there's most of the cylinders are there. Um you can see the um the boys there um that um that I use for the shot line in
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the deco station. Um a few other bits and pieces, bags full of dive gear. Um
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it takes a while to unload all this and also offload it and obviously wash it all down. Um but yeah, you can see um
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there's a lot of things that go into a type of dive like this, not just the rebathers. Um they play obviously a very
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crucial part, but there's a lot of other little items that um you got to account for and shot lines and ropes and um a
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lot of that sort of maritime boating sort of equipment that you need for a dive like this. And yeah, absolutely right. And um I
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guess this is you on board the boat leaving harbor. Yeah, I believe this this is probably about um 6:00. Yeah, probably just about
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6:00 in the morning. You can see the sunrise starting to sort of show it um
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show up. Uh but yeah, you can see that I think I took this photo. Um you can see some of the guys there preparing some of
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their gear. I've got uh one of the deck hands on on the back and you can see there's a few rebers already.
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That looks cold to me. And uh you know being British I imagine that Australia is is 30° all the time.
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No, it's definitely it was definitely cold. So, when we did this was uh in winter and um early morning um yeah, it
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was definitely a little bit of a chill um in the air and um yeah, leaving um
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leaving the warm bed and to get on in the car to drive down to the um to the
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harbor and then to pack gear to go on this big dive and I like oh
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maybe bed. You tell it's one of the things I always say to people. If you compare the amount of time you actually
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have on the wreck for a really deep dive with the the the hours of stuff that happens either side of it, the ratio is
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just insane, isn't it? Oh, it's absolutely insane. I think um I think I usually tell people particularly
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just with rebather diving in general. I think I usually say it's like, you know, four or five hours of extra time for
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like 1 hour of diving. um you know preparing the gear, maintaining like washing, disinfecting the gear and
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maintaining it um all that plays into it. But I guess um uh that's the
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sacrifice you got to make to uh to maintain and dive a complex diving system. Yeah, absolutely. And to and to to go
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and explore stuff as well, isn't it? You know, to do stuff nobody else does. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly right. It's um I guess
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it's part of the part of the fun in um in exploration, expedition diving is um
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is to uh is all that preparation, all that hard work, which hopefully a lot of
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the time pays off. Um sometimes actually so I would say a lot of time it doesn't pay off, sometimes it does. Um it makes
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it worth it um when you when you do finally achieve it. Yeah, for for certain. And I guess this
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is looking forward now from the from the rear of the boat. Yeah. So, I'm looking um I might have
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probably taken this photo as well. This is um you can see I think that's my scooter there on the left. Um and you
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can see a few a few more of the stage cylinders that are in there. Um we used um we used all the space we could get.
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Um I think we even put some cylinders in uh some of the fridges that you use for for fish. Um I think there might be a
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photo later on of that. Um but yeah, we pretty much put all bouters were coming out of everywhere. Um and you can see a
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few of them there just there in the um in the middle and a couple of rebreathers that are strapped to the side of that bench. Um couple of
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scooters, but yeah, looking looking towards the um the front of the vessel and you can see a lot of deck space um
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which is great. Fantastic. Um I love a lot of deck space, a lot of room to get comfortable and particularly comfortable
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uh for the support crew. Uh like for me, I'm like once in the water I'm I'm I'm sweet. Um, but obviously those guys got
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to spend 8 hours plus on the um on the boat. You want to make sure they're all comfortable um with a nice vessel and
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they've got um a few of the creature comforts that they they need.
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Yeah. Brilliant. Um and no lift though. Um that's that's a
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big miss for from a UK diver. Yeah. Yeah. So um I know you guys
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norally have a lift on the back of the boat. Um unfortunately no uh sort of no
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comfort for us in that in that field. Um I have dived um on a boat here in Sydney
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uh that was actually run by a British guy that um he had a lift um on it and
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that was very very comfortable. It was probably one of my favorite boats. Um but
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unfortunately no that was the only boat that I know of that has a lift. Um, so yeah, it's all it's all
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Yep. Yeah, lifts don't appear to have hit America yet either. I'm just I'm amazed, frankly. Um, even all our recreational
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boats have lifts on these days, pretty much. I I don't I don't know a British diving boat really that that doesn't
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have one. Yeah. Uh yeah, it is it is obviously something that's quite beneficial. Um I
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will actually add something though um that this uh boat did have a crane. Um, so a lot of our bailout cylinders and
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scooters were craned up. Um, I can't remember if if any of us um craned um I
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certainly didn't. Um, but uh a couple maybe the other two guys that uh exited the water before me um they might have
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got their rebathers craned up. Um but I was almost planning on doing it um too as well. I was sort of thinking about
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it. Maybe not. Um, I did have a plan if I if I if the conditions were bad where
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it was unsafe to climb the ladder um that I was going to have a support diver, actually a support diver was with
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me in the water on the surface like a surface swimmer and we were just going to take my JJ off um and have it flo and
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then take it swim it to the crane and the crane was going to lift it up and and hoist it. But the conditions were pretty good and um and it was I feel as
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though it was safe to climb up um the ladder with with the JJ. But I had everything else craned up. So I had my
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terab, my speed, my two um uh stage cylinders craned up as well. So
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So we put we put what we call a fishing line in the water. So it's a sort of 20 m bit of string with a load of D-rings
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on it and you swim over to it, you hook your gear on. Is that a similar system for yourself?
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Uh yeah, we sometimes use we call it a mermaid line. Pretty much the same exactly the same thing. Um we sometimes use it. Uh we found that uh it was
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actually uh with this dive it was quite easy because each of us were sort of um
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exiting the water uh individually and it was as soon as we exited the support diver or surface swimmer was there right
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there and they just took the cylinders off you and put it straight onto the crane and you were kind of good to go. So there wasn't um but yeah we have used
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um what we refer to as a mermaid line um before that uses exactly the same process is you just hook all your stuff
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onto it and then it gets sort of taken up at the end. Yeah. Yeah know. Cool. Um I think our
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next um our next photo is another one from the journey app. This might have your cylinders in fridges. I don't know.
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Uh yeah, you can see some cylinders towards the back. Um I think yeah. So I
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took this one as well. This is um sunrise. So, I got a nice photo um of sunrise in the background. So, we're
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kind of almost near the dive site now. I think it was an hour and a half from leaving from Woolingong. And um it was a
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nice photo. Uh we got Dave Apps there. He's kneeling getting his reb. And um a couple other guys there in the
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background. I think John and one of our support divers is there. And uh yeah, it was a a nice little shot um of uh of the
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sun rising over the east coast of Australia. get nice sunrises uh on the east coast. Um sunsets more a west coast
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thing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Got you. Um and I guess you know one of the things
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is we talked last time about how the uh the wreck was found. It was found by a survey company who were looking for
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shipping containers and um but it did mean that you had some information about the wreck before you went down there and
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this uh sides scan is is an example of that. Yeah, definitely. So, um, this this size
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can actually shows you a really good, um, I guess perspective on what we saw on the Echo Sander when we were trying
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to put the shot line on. Um, so you can see there's not a whole lot of target. Um, that orange bit there in the middle,
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uh, the superructure um, is where that bridge and sort of
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engineering uh, used to be. And so, uh, we actually almost didn't even see that
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sort of orangey green, um, uh, on this on our echo sounder as well. So, we kind
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of had a very small target, almost like a little pinnacle, um, in 160 m of water
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to hit. And, um, and so obviously quite difficult to place a shot line very
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accurately into it, particularly with about a kn of current or just under a kn of current.
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Yeah. Fantastic. Sorry. Um, and there you go. This is some more. This is a kind of point cloud um multi-beam type
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stuff. Um you know, very similar I guess. But I I guess the the the nice the lovely thing you had is this um is
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this uh photoggramometry model um which is uh just loading up there. But um
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yeah, perfect. There you go. And you can see um I think the this is where the shot line landed
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here just off to the reef. Yeah. So you can see that sort of a little bit of a reef there. um just in
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that sort of white patch um just I guess south of that reef is um is where the
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shot line landed. So it's about was about 30 mters um off the wreck. Now, um
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when we placed the shot line, uh initially, uh so the first time we
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placed the shot line, uh by the time we got the deco station onto the shot, we're about 200 m off the wreck and we
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realized that we weren't close to the wreck, which mean which meant we had to take the shot line back into the boat
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and reshot it. Um so that took a while, um almost 2 hours. Uh hence why we were quite delayed. Uh but the second time we
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put um the shot line onto the wreck um we decided to position the boat
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uh south uh southwest of the wreck. So um on the far side towards the stern um which you
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can sort of see in the background to the right. Uh and the reason why Yep. So yeah, pretty much around this area is
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where we positioned u the boat to put the shot line in. And the reason why is because the current was running south to
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north, which is a little bit unusual for this area in Australia. On the east coast, we have what's known as the EAC,
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the Eastern Australian current, and that only runs north to south. Uh, however, on this day in particular, it was
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running south to north. And um so when we positioned the boat in um on that
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sort of south side of the wreck, by the time the shot line landed, uh it actually traveled the entire length of
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the wreck and uh in pretty much positioned where where we talked about just before. Um so I mean it does I
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don't know what the descent rate was for the shot line, but um I guess it wouldn't have been that slow. Would have
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been pretty quick uh because we use an anchor and um a railroad track as a as
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an accelerant of sorts. Um so uh you can imagine in that space of time um from
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leaving surface to hitting 160 m it's it's traveled the entire uh length of
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the wreck which gives you a bit of perspective on what we were dealing with and hence why uh the first time we put
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the shot line on it didn't um work out as we had planned.
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Yeah. Fantastic. But um but great that great that you got it on the wreck. So, is there anything else on this model that you want to talk us through before
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we go on to the um we go out to the dive? Yeah. So, um in the footage you see me
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having a look towards this section of the dive. Um you can sort of see into
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Yep. So, right there is um is where I try to have a good look. Uh it's not
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overly detailed on the model. Um so, um I guess for the audience to know, we actually use this model um to plan out
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our dive. Um, this was available to us before we did the dive and it's available for anyone to view. Um, but we
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used this model to sort of figure out where we wanted to explore. Um, so I had a look down in that sort of
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rear section of the of the ship um because I could see some engineering components um that are not very detailed
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on this on this model and uh which we which we will see in uh the footage. And
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there's also a gap missing um with the RO which was wasn't able to get. You can see just see it right there. So, I
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decided to fil I decided to film some of that footage as well um to give um this model a bit more detail when we gave it
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to Heritage um uh who kind of essentially made this model. Um but
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yeah, there's a few things that were missing um from this and that was one of the objectives of our dive was to gather
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more information um about uh about the wreck and a few things the ROV missed. I
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think I mentioned it last time on our last interview that a few people were sort of discussing when this first came
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out um you know why would you dive such a wreck and um when you got ROVs and and the RVs did dive this wreck um and um
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they were still weren't able to get um all the details that potentially a diver can can get um so that was a few of our
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objectives as well. Fantastic. Um and uh that probably brings us nicely on to let's have a look
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at the dive footage. So you talk us through it, Ross, please. Yeah, perfect. So we, um, so, uh, at the
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moment, so this is probably about 15 or so minutes into the dive. Um, if we just
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pause the, um, the video if we can, Dom. Um, so we've just, uh, beginning our
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descent now. Um, however, a few all of us were sort of sitting here for about 15 or so minutes. Uh because our fourth
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diver who's Samir has just entered the sort of the frame of the footage. Um he had to sort of uh get his gear sorted
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and fight against the current for a little bit on the surface. So it took me about 10 to 15 minutes to uh to scooter
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across the across the surface to get to the shot line. Um so you see us uh which is why the footage sort of starts here
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at 15 m. Uh cuz we're just hanging out here um waiting for the whole team to be
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together before we started our descent. who was sort of just chilling out and u making sure everything was right waiting
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for Simmy to to approach. And then as soon as he sort of gets into frame, we begin our dive. Um you've got Dave Apps
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who's just to my right and John um who's behind me as well. And this is I guess the um the the first initial sort of
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descent part. Um I'm getting sort of ready to begin the descent. U I've got my paral lens on the scooter. I've got a
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paral lens on my mask, which is the one filming. And um I'm just getting uh those bits of kit ready to go. Uh my set
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point roughly at the moment is 1.0. Um I think I mentioned it last time. I'll dive for a depth like this. I'll dive
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1.0 uh to the bottom and then I'll switch at 1.3 when I begin my ascent. Um so um
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which is reflected there on the sheer water on the bottom left. And u we're just beginning our descent now. Um sort
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of going a little bit slowly. Sam is just in front of me. And um my procedures are for uh so I've got a twin
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uh a double reather and um you'll see me do a switch at 50 m and that's to verify
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that the second loop um hasn't flooded. It's working correctly. Um now there's
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probably a multitude of ways to dive a second rebather. uh my way might not be the best way or might not um you know
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but uh it's just the way that I do it and doesn't necessarily mean it's um you know it's the best or the worst. It's
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just the way I do it and I'll switch at 50 m uh at 100 m and then again at um
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150 160 so when I get to the bottom um so I'm being cognizant of that I'm inflating my dry suit a little bit of BC
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uh inflating that second loop as well. It hasn't has an ADV, but I'll occasionally top it up with a bit of
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manual dealing. And um I'm sort of approaching here. I'm sort of observing uh myself approach that 50 m mark where
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I begin that first uh switch to the second loop to verify it. And it takes about 30 seconds or so, maybe a little
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bit longer. Uh 30 seconds to a minute to switch the second loop. And um I'll take a few breaths from it. So uh you'll see
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me kind of get ready for that very shortly. I've got a little procedure that I've practiced over over many many
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many dives in a couple of years now. So, the first thing I'll do is I'll stow the scooter. Um, so clip that off and I'm
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sort of maintaining sort of neutral buoyancy at this point. I'll uh check my cells on the T-re. I'll do a which you
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can see just there. I'll do a quick dilent flush through the T-reb. Uh then
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I'll uncip the the treb loop from my D-ring. I'll move the nerd out of the
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way. uh come off gas from the JJ, go into the TBS
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out of the DSV, switch to the TB, conduct a couple of breaths through that, and then essentially reverse the
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procedure. Um comes off, comes out with the DSV closed, uh clip that back on, go
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back to the JJ, uh make sure the JJ is fine, and then uh get the scooter out
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and uh and continue on. And as you can see, the guys are sort of um leap frogging leap frogging in front of me.
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So, they've just um uh they'll they'll sort of go ahead of me uh a little bit
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uh on the descent as I do that. And then um I'll usually catch up to them and sort of um go past them a little bit.
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And then uh it's sort of like a leap frog almost um to the bottom. They'll sort of go past me when I switch next
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time and I'll I'll go past them again. So, I've just gone past Dave. he's um
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he's potentially um monitoring something and you can see Samir out in front of me
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uh just there in the uh in the background. So, in terms of locations of stuff, you've got your T-R controller and
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handset on your right arm. You've got your JJ controller and handset on your left arm, and you've got your Nerd,
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which is attached to your JJ that is on your loop, presumably.
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Yeah, correct. So the the nerds on the JJ loop uh and the T-reb controller with
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the second shear water sorry the third shear water um which monitors the T-reb cells as well um that's on my right. So
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the controller and and she water for the tre are both on my right hand and everything related to the JJ is on the
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left. So the controller for the JJ and then obviously that nerd as well that's sitting on the loop. So there's three
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techn technically four computers um on the on the dive u but the tab computer proprietary computer hasn't got decode
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model on it. Um the sheer water does the decode for that for that unit. Got you. Okay. I wasn't I wasn't aware
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of that. So yeah. Okay. So you've effectively on your on your right wrist you've got two devices. You've got a sheer water and the T-R controller.
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Yeah. Correct. Yep. Yep. And the T-R controller is in bailout CCR mode. So what it essentially is being told. So
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the cells are kind of all over the place at the moment because we're doing a descent. Um Dant's getting in uh
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injected into it. Um but the cells don't won't necessarily reflect um you know
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the the deco. So the shear water on the treb has been told um to be in bailout
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CCR mode with a set point of 1.0. Um so essentially the she the sheer is saying
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so I'm reading the cells but I'm not taking them into account for decode. Uh we're doing eco of 1.0. So quite a
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quite a good function. Um and that makes it very crucial for a dive like this. Um so as you can see approaching 100 m now.
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Now I will say the um the temperature sensor on the camera is a little bit inaccurate. So um the
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uh the battery heats up the sensor in the in the paral lens camera. Um so if anyone's looking go, "Wow, Australia's
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got 20 20° water at 100 mters." It's definitely not that. Uh it's about 14°
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uh on the bottom at 160. Um 20° is a bit more accurate towards the um it's about
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18 or so uh towards the surface. Um but 14 on the bottom. Um so you can see me
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now doing that second switch. Yeah. Brilliant. So So and obviously we've got the the overlay a sheer water
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overlay on the on the left hand screen which which looks like a uh a petrol but is actually showing the information.
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Yeah. Exactly. Right. So what you're seeing there is the information from the nerd um so which is exactly which is
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reflected um almost identical to the information on the JJ controller which
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is a predator and you can see there's a little bit of a spike on cell number three. Um now I believe I potentially
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would have seen it maybe at this point a little bit further on and this was um
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where I was like okay look it's a little bit of a spike not a major thing um but
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um hopefully you know we're doing a bit of a descent so it could just be any other a multitude of things um
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potentially nothing to be overly concerned by um but yeah can you can begin to see that cell um sort of uh
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enter its sort of final stages of its life. Um, which we'll probably see later on in uh in the discussion. Um, but
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yeah, begin continuing our descent. So, I've just done my my second switch um
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onto that loop and verified it and switched back to the JJ and continuing on. And
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we're sort of approaching now um that 130 m mark. Uh it's towards this uh
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point in time that I sort of began to see the bottom. Uh you'll probably see it on the footage. Um I could see John's
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focus light. Um it's a tight beam with a square. Um I could see reflecting off the sand off the bottom. Uh you'll be
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able to see it very shortly, I believe, from about 140. And um as we approach
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this um and I could see the bottom of the shot line. You might not be able to see you can see John's light just there.
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Um, I could see the shot line wasn't on the wreck, which made me a little bit
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nervous because I knew that um, we didn't want to do any C uh, circular searching on the bottom at 160 m. Um,
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but um, so was was my mind. I was like, oh, might we might not be we're not on
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the wreck. Um, but soon enough you'll see that um I see the um the silhouette
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um in the background and um I get a little bit excited. So you can probably
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just see that bit of a shadow towards the top left in the camera. Little bit of a black shadow. Um so you can see
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John's light reflecting off the bottom. You can see the shot line is not on the wreck cuz there's nothing beneath us.
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And yep, now I've just seen the um I've just seen the wreck. You can see that sort of shadow just to the top left and
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that's the silhouette of the wreck. And I sort of knew at this point that hey we're I think we're on here and that's
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probably one of the best feelings that you could ever experience. Um knowing that you know
27:16
um 60 m and there you go. You can just see the silhouette just there in the background. Um if you can just pause the
27:23
video again if we can Dom there's a few discussion points here. So there's a few things going on uh now
27:29
at this point in the dive. Um, for those that um are probably uh
27:35
bit aware, I've sort of left the shot line and um which is behind me. I guess
27:41
in my excitement um I've sort of departed from the shot. Um which upon sort of self reflection uh may have not
27:48
been the best um sort of course of action uh because I've left um my rest
27:53
of my dive team which is behind me. Uh, and you will see very shortly in the footage, um, they're placing the
27:59
strobes, uh, on the shot line, uh, I guess. But in my sort of excitement,
28:04
I've, uh, I've seen the wreck and made a sort of a beline for it. Um, and I I quickly realized that I've I've left the
28:10
rest of my team behind. And, um, I sort of stop and turn around and make sure that they're all okay and they follow
28:16
me. um which probably wasn't the best decision um or best thing I did but um
28:22
um but the other thing I've got here at the moment is I'm actually got a bit of HPNS and for me um what that felt like
28:27
was visual disturbances. So um I kind of felt like the bottom was pulsing and uh
28:33
I was almost on the verge or felt like on the verge of vertigo. Um so I just stopped myself. I've had a vertigo um
28:39
episode before at about 75 m before which was quite bad. Um and I kind of
28:45
got a little bit anxious by um at this point in time. Uh so to take sort of stop myself and take three deep breaths.
28:52
Um which uh actually also stopped the the the v visual disturbances I I was
28:58
having u with the HPS nurse. But um that was definitely um something I wasn't
29:04
expecting and um something I had to deal with. Uh but luckily it stabilized um
29:10
relatively quickly and u I was able to continue with the dive and you can see I've just turned around to look back at
29:16
the team. Um all three divers are on the shot line. I'm probably about 15 20 m away from them at this point and I'm
29:23
just making sure that um they're okay and they're going to start following me. Um and you'll see them uh sort of begin
29:29
to follow me onto the wreck very shortly. Yeah. I mean, I think the other thing we got to we got to highlight here, and
29:35
it's kind of old news to you. I get this, Russ, but um for anybody looking at the computer, they're looking at some of the numbers on there, and they're
29:42
going, "Wow, that is insane. You you've got 209 minutes TTS, and you you've literally just arrived at the bottom."
29:49
Yeah, exactly right. So, um as we've uh sort of talked about, you know, that 1 1.0 PPO2 u makes that TCS climb very
29:58
very quickly. Uh, it's always um an interesting feeling looking at the um at the computer and going, "Wow, I've got a
30:05
very long way to go um to the top and I've only just got here and the wreck
30:11
has only just, you know, we've only just got here and begin to explore and do what we came here to do. Um, but I guess
30:17
you just got to put that in the back of your mind and continue with what you what you need to do." Um, so you can see
30:23
I mean scootering towards the wreck. There's that sort of all that fish life you can see in the background. It's almost like starlight on a midnight sky.
30:30
You can see it's um I think we mentioned it sort of last time. Uh you guys get it as well in the UK. You usually see the
30:36
wreck or you see the fish before you see the wreck and definitely what we had as well. You can see that all those sort of
30:41
fish uh on the wreck. I think I'm to Yep. So at the at the bow of the wreck now um towards the front. Now for anyone
30:49
observing at home uh and they were listening before they potentially realized that um I have not done
30:55
something that I spoke that I would do uh and that is switch to the uh to my to
31:02
my loop uh for the third and final verification on the bottom. I guess in my excitement of seeing the wreck, I've
31:09
um forgotten to do that course of action and so um I'm now on the bottom and soon
31:15
enough I'll realize that um Yep. So, I've just realized uh I have not done
31:20
that final verification. So, quickly stow the scooter and um do that uh
31:25
verification again at 160 m. Uh which is always interesting feeling taking something out of your mouth and placing
31:32
um another loop into your mouth at 160. Um but it's uh important to make sure
31:38
that second loop is functioning correctly. And um so I'm just doing a quick verification. Uh this did breathe
31:45
quite nicely here. Um at this uh at this depth um it there was no difference in
31:50
worker breathing from the JJ uh to the T. If if anything it was slightly even maybe slightly tiny bit better on the T-
31:56
reb um very nice to breathe from um even at 160 and um I'm switching uh probably
32:04
back to the um back to the JJ now. Uh and I'm pretty happy with that with that second loop. Uh, it's working as it's as
32:11
it should. And you'll probably see me shortly uh get my scooter out and um and
32:18
continue uh continue with the dive. So, you can see John's probably just behind me there's his light, getting the
32:24
scooter out and uh continuing on. So, so this is this is the port side of the wreck, isn't it, that you're on
32:30
here. Yeah, it is, Dom. Yeah, that's correct. So, this is the port side. um uh
32:35
swimming or scootering along um the port side on the bottom uh heading towards
32:40
the stern. Um so you'll see me sort of uh turn around soon enough and um uh
32:47
what we discussed on that model. Um we'll begin sort of looking at that engineering component that you will see.
32:53
Um so you can see there's a little bit of a there's definitely collapse in the in the stern of the ship. There's coal that you would have potentially not seen
32:59
in the footage, but there was coal scattered across the bottom um towards the stern. And this is where I kind of
33:05
saw that sort of um engineing configuration through those I guess um
33:11
sort of holes in the in the back of the ship there. Um and there was a small part of me that u was curious is to go
33:19
explore inside there. Um, but when you're on such a short time frame at 160 m, I decided not might not be the best
33:26
option. Um, I do love going inside engineing rooms on on on Rex, it's one of my favorite things to do. However,
33:33
with two loops at 160 m and a short bottom time, um, I decided it's best to
33:38
go back. And so, um, I just I've just given John the symbol to let's go, let's
33:43
start heading back. I actually thought the shot line was further um on the wreck uh than it actually was. Um so I
33:51
was very um sort of I guess um keen to start getting getting back home. But uh
33:56
at this point in time, I could actually see the shot line. Um those strobes were flashing in the background and I
34:03
realized we weren't too far off it and I was I got a little bit more comfortable and decided to film a few more things.
34:08
Um here you can see me looking down. Uh there's a bit of a funnel there and the donkey boilers which I'm looking at. Um
34:15
and this is towards that sort of superructure and then the bridge um or where the bridge used to be um just
34:21
ahead of me. Yeah. I mean I guess one of the things is the nemesis although everyone agrees
34:28
that it is the nemesis. There's nothing that's ever conclusively said this is the nemesis isn't there's no kind of
34:33
there's no bell or maker play or anything like that. It's just it's the right size and shape and location and
34:39
all that kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly right, Diamonds. As you alluded to, um, there's nothing conclusive. Um, but it is all the
34:46
evidence points to it. Um, and I'll just quickly mention that this part of the wreck is I'm trying to film where that
34:51
this is where that gap was on that model, um, that we saw. We didn't have any footage. Um, so, uh, we're just
34:56
trying to so just trying to film all that to, um, to update that model with this, uh, with this footage. So, we're
35:03
heading now towards the bow again on the starboard side. You can see that flash in the background. That's the strobe on
35:09
the shot line. So, not too far away. And um this is towards now the end of the bottom time. So, uh you can see me
35:16
looking towards the um towards the Samir there in the background. At this point
35:22
in time, I've seen Samir. I know John's behind me cuz I can see his torch the entire time, which is good. And I'm sort of thinking, oh, where's Dave apps? I'm
35:29
hoping he's around. I can account for um for the other the other two guys. And then as I look towards the shot line, um
35:36
you can see you can probably see Dave um just there in the background there. You can see his torching on the on the um on
35:43
the sea bottom and uh he's made it back to the shot line first and he's cutting away um that railroad track that we use
35:50
as as an accelerant. And so he's getting that shot line ready to be um ready to be recovered soon and making sure that
35:58
um that it can be. So, uh, all all four so all four divers are accounted for and
36:03
we're proceeding back to the shot line now to, um, to begin our ascent. Just,
36:09
um, just one question because obviously, uh, when we talked about it on the interview, you talked about the planning
36:14
for this dive and the fact that you'd agreed that it would be 9 minutes in the descent and then I think 9 minutes on the bottom and that would give you about
36:20
the right amount of run time. Now, now because obviously your descent was a bit longer on this cuz you had that that bit
36:26
where you were waiting at um 14 m for for the second dive. How did you factor that in?
36:32
So yeah, exactly right. It does make it a little bit difficult. Uh we essentially um had to plus 9 um from
36:39
when we decided to make that descent. Yeah. Um, so yeah, it was about it was about
36:45
plus 9 plus 9 minutes from um, sorry, add on the difference, sorry to speak.
36:51
Um, yep. Add on the difference between when we started descending. So, I think we were there for about 15 minutes and then I'm not sure if the time accurately
36:58
reflects um, what was uh, actually shown by the time we began our dive um, there
37:05
on the sheer water, but um, yeah, it was about roughly roughly 9 minute descent into a 9m minute bottom time. Yeah, I
37:11
mean this is this this should be pretty much accurate with your um
37:16
I've obviously generated the overlay and it's it's using the data from your from your nerd. So and I've I've kind of
37:21
overlaid it so it it it should be about right. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yep. Perfect. Um you
37:27
can see me just switching there to 1.3 on both. Um so I've switched 1.3 on the
37:32
um on the JoJ controller and you can see that's being sort of reflected in that nerd data. And then um I've switched 1.3
37:40
on that bailout CCR um to reflect
37:45
um the Treb placebo we'll call it um data to um so that both are quite
37:53
accurate and um you can see that TTS is CL is dropped now from 4 whatever
37:59
minutes it was to 550 oh sorry 350 um me a mere 350.
38:06
Yeah. Yeah. exactly why I me 350. Um, but I've al also found that it's it never almost completely is um is you've
38:14
always got to add a lot of a bit of smudge factor to that. Um, if you're running off 350 minutes of the actual
38:21
TTS, um, I think you're you're doing pretty good. Um, I've always got to add, you know, extra minutes because that's
38:26
probably reflected in that you're never going to do a perfect ascent of um I think the the shield is calculated at 9
38:34
m a minute for uh for the ascent time as at a maximum. Um you're never probably
38:39
going to hit that 9 m a minute and particularly on this ascent. Um it took us a while to um to ascend from from 160
38:48
to um even to our first stop. I remember looking down um and I was what felt like
38:55
a long time and um and looking down and I could see that we were still deeper than we were still over 100 m in depth
39:02
and I'm just thinking wow this is taking a really long time and I think it's because of that um potentially because of that uh current and the shot line
39:09
sitting at that 45° angle we not you're not doing a direct ascent to the surface you're kind of doing a at a 45 degree
39:16
angle so hence why it's taken a little bit longer to ascend through the um than originally planned or what the
39:24
what the sheer water is planned. Fantastic. So um the next thing we've
39:30
got to do I guess is we we we don't have any more video because there's a whole I don't have the whole ascent because
39:35
obviously that would be hours and hours and hours of deco and that's not not great for anybody. But what we do
39:41
especially the person doing it. Um, what we do have though is the um is is this bit of video footage here which is which
39:48
is I've slowed down and is kind of showing your JJ um controller um at I
39:54
think we can see about 15 m here and it's kind of showing you know really clearly the fact there's a problem with
40:00
one of those cells. Yeah. So as you can see um this is or you can see the cell just being voted in
40:06
and out. At that point it's just gone green because it's been voted back into the verification process. Um, but before
40:13
when it was yellow, it was voted out. So that now, yep, it's just gone yellow. So that's voted out. So as you can see, uh,
40:18
initially that cell number three spiked and um, and now it's on its way out. So
40:26
it's kind of dying. And, um, for anyone who's very observant, you can see that cell number two at 1.55, it's doing
40:33
exactly the same thing. So it's going spiking high. Um, so cell number one, I think it's about 1.34 there on on the
40:40
footage. Um, so that's probably that is the most accurate cell and that one was showing the correct PPO2. Uh, but cell
40:47
number three is very much on its way out. It's beginning to die. Um, after spiking initially on the descent and
40:54
cell number two has done uh the exact same thing. So it spike it spiked. it
40:59
has spiked initially and then uh I think on the next video it shows um that all
41:05
uh those two cells have completely uh died or very close to u to dying but
41:11
yeah you can see that cell number three is yep so this is now a little bit shallow on deco a little bit further on
41:16
into the dive uh I think I'm getting my sec my spare battery that which was left on the deco station um turn that on and
41:23
yep there you go so uh you can see cell number one 1.1
41:29
6. That is uh the the actual PP2. Cell number two has pretty much died. And
41:36
cell number three is pretty much died as well. Um you can see I've I'm actually no longer on the JJ at this point. I'm
41:43
I'm very much on the TB um at this point. And uh you can see it's open
41:48
circuit bailout with 95% as a bailout mix. And the reason why is because uh
41:54
effectively I was no longer taking the the computers on the JJ into any
41:59
account. Uh the decode was absolutely all over the I I can't remember what it
42:05
was but it was showing hours and hours and hours. Uh because uh the computer doesn't know what to do with this data.
42:13
Um, so essentially to trick the computer uh into not having errors when I
42:19
surfaced saying that you've just missed 4 hours of decode. Um, I've bowed out to
42:25
open circuit on those computers. Um, to essentially reflect almost a very similar decco profile almost I think it
42:32
was actually within a minute or two of what the terab was showing. Uh, and the terab was on closed circuit. So, um I'm
42:39
actually doing uh the uh the real deco on my right on my right arm and um this
42:47
computer on the left and the and the nerd is exactly the same uh at this point in time. It's just um completely
42:53
uh gone. Those cells are doing, you know, whatever they're doing.
42:59
Yeah. I mean, so this is super rare, isn't it, to have a double cell failure and uh you know, what a dive to choose
43:04
to have it on as well. You know, pretty pretty horrendous. What depth did you what it probably worth just talking
43:10
about what depth you realized that you were in this predicament and what depth you actually bailed out on or not bailed
43:15
out you went onto your second rebreather. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it definitely is I guess a bail out um so to speak cuz um
43:21
I'm no longer on the primary system. Uh I believe it was 3 hours in. So we're
43:29
probably around that 9 m mark or so. Um
43:34
roughly around there. I would have to look at the the plan again. But I think I made it to three hours on the JJ
43:40
before um before I was like, "No, this is um this is just too uncomfortable."
43:46
And um I bowed out uh onto the second unit. So yeah, 3 hours. So it wasn't too
43:52
deep. Um but it was still had a long time to go. And there's always that
43:57
thought in the back of your mind of like, have I done the actual, you know, proper deco so far? uh because
44:05
effectively you know what what PP2 I was breathing um might not be the most
44:11
accurate thing especially that double cell failure as you can see. So and I think you know there's some
44:16
comments about this a bit of chat about this in the um the comments on the last video and I think you know it's one of
44:23
those things is people sometimes equate units and cells and and they're not the same thing are they? This is this is a
44:28
problem with the cells not a problem with the with the JJ. Yeah, that's right, Dom. So, um I
44:36
probably said in the last interview that the um the Ter sorry the JJ fared me um
44:41
after 10 years diving together. It um it actually didn't know the the JJ has
44:47
performed um almost pretty much flawlessly the entire time I've had it. And um it is um it's not a reflection on
44:53
the unit. Um it it the cells it is the problem with the cells. And I did a series of tests um with Dave, one of the
44:59
divers uh uh on this dive who's a lot smarter than me uh when it comes to these sort of things. And um we did a
45:06
series of tests for resistance um in all the wires for both um the nerd. I've got
45:11
an adapter. Um this is an analog unit as you can see uh with a predator controller. So it can't actually take a
45:17
nerd naturally. Um I had to I had to modify the electronics to be able to um
45:23
to put a nerd in there. And the the data from the cells is split across the nerd
45:28
and the um uh sorry is sent to both the nerd and to the um to the predator via
45:35
cell splitters. And um so we did we did resistance check on all the um on the
45:41
splitters, all the wires, everything. Um and uh finally um well sorry before that
45:47
we actually did uh voltter uh checking on the cells and they were completely dead. So I think they were showing 01 of
45:55
a mill volt on those two cells. Um so uh it was definitely the cells and not
46:01
the unit. And I've um I've dived the unit since then with fresh cells and it's working flawlessly um as it always
46:07
has been. Um and I will say with with that modification that I have done um I
46:13
was sort of able to diagnose it a little bit early that it was the cells because
46:18
uh the data was reflected in both the predator and the nerd. Uh and because
46:24
the only thing that they share together are the splitters or the the cells. Um I I could tell that it wasn't off um the
46:31
circuit board in the predator or wasn't on the cable in the in the nerd. um because both both bits of data were
46:38
reflected together. I was like, "Okay, there was only one common denominator in across this and it's the cells or
46:44
potentially the splitters, but more than likely the cells and that was the case in this dive."
46:49
Yeah. Brilliant. I think there's a few other things. I'm just going to replay this bit of video actually, Russ, cuz a few other interesting things I think to
46:56
you're on the deco station here. You're about 4 meters, but there's a whole load of other stuff that people can see. So,
47:01
um probably just talk us through it. Yeah, definitely. So, a lot of these things obviously didn't come with us
47:07
onto the dive. That second battery that you see uh that's in my hands right now. Um that didn't come with me. That was in
47:13
the deco station. That's for my undersuit um to keep me nice and warm. Um there's a photo of me later on which
47:18
we'll discuss. You can see there's a few little things that I've got on me that didn't um come with me. But uh on this
47:24
deco station, there's a metal bar here that you can see in the foreground which we hang on to. Um there's one of our
47:30
cylinders there. believe it will be the 100% oxygen cylinder that's there just on the left. Um we've got camel packs
47:36
that we're able to hydrate ourselves um from as well as some of those uh triathlon gels um those glucose gels.
47:43
I've got a few of them in my camel pack which I can sort of consume on the dive.
47:49
Uh there's a shark pod there you can see next to um John's hand on the bar. Um,
47:54
so I guess you guys probably don't have to use them in the UK, but um, it keeps us nice and comfortable. Um, I don't
48:01
know if they actually work. Essentially, what it is, it's a it's an electrical wire uh, that produces a current and
48:06
it's supposed to deter sharks through that electrical magnetical electrical magnetic field. And um, but like I said,
48:14
I I don't know if it if it actually works, but I guess it keeps everyone um that sort of the back of your mind. it
48:22
keep it's the um ignorance is bliss type effect uh so to speak and um so I guess
48:28
if if it makes you feel good then it's good um I guess I guess guess you had zero sharks on decompression so it must have
48:34
worked yeah yeah supposedly yeah I've also heard that they sometimes may attract sharks
48:39
um because it produces a current and the sharks get curious uh but then the shark will hopefully um be deterred when it
48:45
gets too close to that current um but yeah like you said I didn't see anything out there so um or at least anything
48:51
that I know about anyway. Um but um so I guess it worked uh in this situation.
48:58
Yeah. Fantastic. Uh you're not sponsored by whoever makes those things, are you? So uh so uh
49:07
and the other bit of video you shared with me. I love this bit of video which is uh which is you know your kind of choice of uh of you know viewing
49:14
material for your deco stops. Yeah, exactly right. So, I'm watching um Titanic on that DVOL uh phone case
49:22
there. Um now, this obviously didn't come with me on the dive itself. Um I got given it on Deco, but I decided to
49:30
um I guess put a bit of ambience into the dive, and what better movie to watch
49:35
uh on a wreck dive than um probably the most famous shipwreck of all um The Titanic. And it's probably one of my
49:41
favorite movies, actually. Um and uh you romantic.
49:47
Yeah. A little bit romantic. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh yeah. So, uh yeah, it was definitely
49:55
kept me entertained for and also actually it's a pretty good movie to watch cuz it goes for 3 hours. So,
50:00
there's half your deco done. Um so, you got to watch that twice in your um in
50:05
your your suite. So, um but pretty much I think when I got this uh when I got given this, I was 3
50:11
hours in um into deco anyway. So, it was kind of almost perfect um in the I think
50:16
I almost finished the entire film by the time I finished.
50:22
I sometimes use one of those dive folks as my tag on the lazy shot. So, uh and we put our lazy shots a bit
50:28
deeper than yours. So, so I've had it at like 45 m in the housing with my actual mobile phone in there. That's how that's
50:35
how confident I am in. They are absolutely brilliant and it means you can start your movie a lot a lot earlier than uh than wait till you get shall.
50:42
Yeah, exactly right. Um I think the depth rating is 60 m on them. Um so you
50:47
can definitely use them a bit deeper. Um that was actually one because I the same as you mate I had my actual um phone in
50:54
that case. Um that was one item that I specifically requested to be handed to me um physically not because the case
51:02
because I had a problem with the case. It was because I had a a problem. Uh I guess or I guess um I didn't have
51:07
confidence in the bolt snap and I thought uh that if for whatever reason it comes off the shot line, I'm losing
51:13
my phone. Uh so I said um you can strap pretty much everything else of mine onto
51:18
the deco station. But uh my case and phone, I'll have that given to me um by
51:23
the support. the sort of actually came down um on one of their on one of their many sort of trips down to visit us and
51:29
um and they gave me um that phone case at whatever I think it was 10 or so or 12 or so meters I think
51:35
I have two two clips on mine and only one of them is ever undone so I'll have it clip clipped to the lazy shot with
51:43
both clips then one will I'll clip onto me when that's done I'll take the other one off I'll do it I there's a we did a
51:49
a deep trip to New earlier on in the year and uh I saw a guy drop his on a on a deco on a on a on a a shot. Now, he
51:56
didn't have his real phone in, but it had a kind of an old phone that he had, but even so, you know, that's still
52:02
that's quite a lot of money that's been sacrificed to Poseidon. Yeah, exactly. Right. That's probably
52:07
that's probably a smart way to do it is to use um like a second phone that one you're not overly um I guess attached to
52:15
if you do lose it. Um, but I definitely um I definitely like that procedure do of having two clips on it because um I
52:22
think I think even when I did have it and I was doing something else on, you know, potentially taking a drink of water or something, it's just a uneasy
52:28
feeling of like, oh, I've still have I still got it and it's and I think every time I had it, so I watched the phone, I
52:34
watched the entire movie with the thing clipped onto me cuz I was um I was definitely not holding it um without a
52:39
clip um the entire time. So, I put a nice long tether on it to make sure that I could still watch the movie
52:44
comfortably with with it clipped onto me. Yeah. And this is the other thing here, which is um I think you you you had some
52:51
music as well. Yeah, I did. Um so, hope you guys hear that um and probably hear the um that
52:58
sort of infamous song that's playing uh across that. Um so, uh this was a music
53:03
player that a friend of mine uh designed and made um Steven Ford here in Australia. He's a very good electrical
53:09
engineer, very uh very smart guy that does a lot of um long and uh deep sort
53:14
of cave dives here in Australia. And um he designed that um little underwater sound system uh which is simple, very
53:21
simple MP3 player um you know uh start, stop, skip uh um and go back and um you
53:29
put just an SD card with all your music files on it and you can just play uh whatever uh song you have. So, I was uh
53:35
just using that on a bit of deco um as another bit of entertainment.
53:41
And I think that we're kind of getting to the end. We got to finish up with your choice of reading material as well.
53:47
Yeah. So, um the dive supervisor actually um made
53:52
this and Yeah. And this is it here, Ross. We've got a kind of zoom we've got zoomed in version of it. This is uh this is very
53:59
very funny. Which genius came up with this then? Yep. So, this was um our supervisor and
54:06
um and dive medic um Brit Shaw uh who's designed this um she's put herself in
54:12
the uh in that picture doing a handset upside down on a single recreational set uh on purpose. Um and she's obviously um
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put a few funny captions in there as well. Most of which um are taking um
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guess making fun of me. Um, so finding the shot line, uh, counting down the minutes on deco without access to your
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toes, uh, and then, uh, taking less than two hours to gear up because, um, I have
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sometimes been known to take my time gearing up. Um, but, um, yep. So, and
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then, uh, free mirror and protractor with, um, with every book, uh, keeping that trim in check. Um, uh, there was a
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few dives that we've done together where we focus a lot on trim. Um so she's taking sort of uh keeping making fun of
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that factor as well. Um so pretty funny pretty funny um image and pretty funny book and it's created that I guess
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iconic uh photo that you uh that you may have seen. Yeah, it's absolutely awesome and it has
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done the rounds online as well which is uh absolutely brilliant. So um yeah, I decided to have that on decode
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to create that sort of I guess um image and um you can see uh I'm kind of I'm on
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my second loop now. It's very uh into that uh definitely bowed out onto the terra which is very
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ironic um with the uh with the poster there in the foreground of what's actually occurring. Uh you can consider
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a few things that are on me. Um you can see the scooter just beneath me that dive vulk and that second battery that I
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didn't take um on the dive but they're on deco. So, I'm I'm struck with all the gear and I'm just going through, I
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guess, making sure I've got everything um everything correct uh and everything
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is simplified as it can be uh for such a dive. Tell you what, I just want to uh thank you so much for taking the time again to
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uh to kind and providing all this imagery and all this detail and everything because it's it's it's been
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absolutely fascinating. Um and I'm sure loads of people will uh will enjoy kind of hearing about your adventures. So,
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uh, thank you so much, D. It's always a pleasure. Um, thanks for having me. I'm hoping, um, that, uh,
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all the guys are able guys and girls able to get, um, any any, uh, information they can. And I'm always
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happy to share, um, any details about the dive and especially if it helps other people learn about something or,
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uh, facilitate discussions on things, then, um, can all learn from various things uh, on a dive like this. uh and
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I'm still you know obviously learning things as I go along as well. So um and I'm always happy to facilitate those uh
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discussions. So uh thank you very much for having me mate and um always a pleasure. Yeah, I look forward to hearing all
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about your next one when you uh when you when when you go on to it. Right. Okay.
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Well, thanks a lot Russ. Thanks a lot for to everybody for listening. As always, if you can uh give us a like, if
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you can subscribe, leave us a comment. Uh Russ has been really good on some of the other videos about uh answering
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questions. So if you leave those on the comment that that would be that would be awesome as well. Otherwise um if you
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haven't seen the other video on this I will put a link to it in the description. Um there's a whole load
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more chat a whole load more detail about this dive. Other than that I uh I'll look forward to seeing you all on my
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next video and thank you very much. Thanks mate. Appreciate it.