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hello everyone and welcome to another
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hello everyone and welcome to another
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hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the cloud show as you can see
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episode of the cloud show as you can see
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episode of the cloud show as you can see I am not at home I am at the action AI
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I am not at home I am at the action AI
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I am not at home I am at the action AI conference in Delhi amazing basically
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conference in Delhi amazing basically
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conference in Delhi amazing basically home of of C Corner TV and and all the
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home of of C Corner TV and and all the
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home of of C Corner TV and and all the things I'm I'm visiting and it's great
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things I'm I'm visiting and it's great
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things I'm I'm visiting and it's great this been a great conference every
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this been a great conference every
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this been a great conference every everything has been super interesting to
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everything has been super interesting to
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everything has been super interesting to learn there's been a lot of panels about
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learn there's been a lot of panels about
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learn there's been a lot of panels about Ai and everything and now I'm going to
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Ai and everything and now I'm going to
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Ai and everything and now I'm going to sit down with yet another very
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sit down with yet another very
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sit down with yet another very interesting person here uh who who is U
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interesting person here uh who who is U
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interesting person here uh who who is U none other than lit bzal and we're going
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none other than lit bzal and we're going
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none other than lit bzal and we're going to be talking about partnering with
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to be talking about partnering with
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to be talking about partnering with Cloud providers to get optimizations and
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Cloud providers to get optimizations and
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Cloud providers to get optimizations and [Music]
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[Music] benefits hello lit how are you doing all
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benefits hello lit how are you doing all
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benefits hello lit how are you doing all good you tell me yeah well everything's
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good you tell me yeah well everything's
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good you tell me yeah well everything's good with me man everything's good with
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good with me man everything's good with
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good with me man everything's good with me so you have started a company called
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me so you have started a company called
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me so you have started a company called revolutions Ai and you uh are also
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revolutions Ai and you uh are also
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revolutions Ai and you uh are also working a lot I want to listen first a
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working a lot I want to listen first a
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working a lot I want to listen first a little bit about you and then we're
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little bit about you and then we're
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little bit about you and then we're going to be talking about uh your
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going to be talking about uh your
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going to be talking about uh your partnering with Cloud providers to get
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partnering with Cloud providers to get
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partnering with Cloud providers to get optimizations and things because that I
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optimizations and things because that I
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optimizations and things because that I think is a a very interesting topic for
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think is a a very interesting topic for
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think is a a very interesting topic for a lot of people but first who are you
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a lot of people but first who are you
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a lot of people but first who are you thank you thank you Magnus for calling
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thank you thank you Magnus for calling
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thank you thank you Magnus for calling me over here and I'm really glad that
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me over here and I'm really glad that
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me over here and I'm really glad that you called me for such a wonderful
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you called me for such a wonderful
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you called me for such a wonderful sessions you have been doing I have been
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sessions you have been doing I have been
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sessions you have been doing I have been listing your sessions really and I was
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listing your sessions really and I was
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listing your sessions really and I was really amazed When I Met You in Deli
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really amazed When I Met You in Deli
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really amazed When I Met You in Deli this time and super excited super
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this time and super excited super
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this time and super excited super excited over tell me about you sure uh
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excited over tell me about you sure uh
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excited over tell me about you sure uh I'm lit bansel I'm a founder of
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I'm lit bansel I'm a founder of
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I'm lit bansel I'm a founder of revolutions. a that's a product which we
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revolutions. a that's a product which we
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revolutions. a that's a product which we had started under Cloud Technologies
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had started under Cloud Technologies
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had started under Cloud Technologies private limited okay so basically what
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private limited okay so basically what
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private limited okay so basically what we started with the software development
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we started with the software development
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we started with the software development and we have been much more indulg
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and we have been much more indulg
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and we have been much more indulg ourself into blockchain projects so we
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ourself into blockchain projects so we
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ourself into blockchain projects so we have been running all the nodes and
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have been running all the nodes and
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have been running all the nodes and master nodes but suddenly we saw that
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master nodes but suddenly we saw that
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master nodes but suddenly we saw that there is a lot of
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there is a lot of you know Billings and optimizations are
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you know Billings and optimizations are
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you know Billings and optimizations are required so fortunately I was attending
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required so fortunately I was attending
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required so fortunately I was attending few events like Cloud events are
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few events like Cloud events are
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few events like Cloud events are happening and then I encountered few AWS
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happening and then I encountered few AWS
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happening and then I encountered few AWS guys and uh with their support now I
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guys and uh with their support now I
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guys and uh with their support now I have become their Advanced Consulting
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have become their Advanced Consulting
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have become their Advanced Consulting partner wherein what we are supporting
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partner wherein what we are supporting
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partner wherein what we are supporting our clients into their optimizing the
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our clients into their optimizing the
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our clients into their optimizing the bill also they are chances that we can
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bill also they are chances that we can
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bill also they are chances that we can even provide them some bill discounting
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even provide them some bill discounting
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even provide them some bill discounting so even you know there are some small
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so even you know there are some small
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so even you know there are some small clients who are in need of you know some
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clients who are in need of you know some
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clients who are in need of you know some small Services definitely Cloud I would
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small Services definitely Cloud I would
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small Services definitely Cloud I would say that this uh bigger player is AWS
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say that this uh bigger player is AWS
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say that this uh bigger player is AWS azer no no one can no one can beat them
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azer no no one can no one can beat them
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azer no no one can no one can beat them but still there are other players coming
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but still there are other players coming
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but still there are other players coming up so that's why it attracted me and uh
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up so that's why it attracted me and uh
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up so that's why it attracted me and uh now I am into this uh business okay
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now I am into this uh business okay
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now I am into this uh business okay great that's I think is the best way to
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great that's I think is the best way to
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great that's I think is the best way to do it you find a need for something and
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do it you find a need for something and
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do it you find a need for something and you start pursuing it and then all of a
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you start pursuing it and then all of a
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you start pursuing it and then all of a sudden maybe you're the expert so no yes
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sudden maybe you're the expert so no yes
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sudden maybe you're the expert so no yes you know at some events while you know
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you know at some events while you know
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you know at some events while you know I'm speaking with the audience I
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I'm speaking with the audience I
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I'm speaking with the audience I generally say these startup guys like uh
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generally say these startup guys like uh
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generally say these startup guys like uh here what attraction for me was the hack
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here what attraction for me was the hack
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here what attraction for me was the hack India what was happening it was really
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India what was happening it was really
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India what was happening it was really an amazing because the the promise of of
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an amazing because the the promise of of
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an amazing because the the promise of of of the cloud was always uh payer use and
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of the cloud was always uh payer use and
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of the cloud was always uh payer use and cost optimization that it's going to be
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cost optimization that it's going to be
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cost optimization that it's going to be much cheaper to go through the cloud and
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much cheaper to go through the cloud and
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much cheaper to go through the cloud and everything's going to be better it's
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everything's going to be better it's
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everything's going to be better it's basically bananas and ice cream for
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basically bananas and ice cream for
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basically bananas and ice cream for everyone right everything's going to be
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everyone right everything's going to be
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everyone right everything's going to be perfect like oh wow but the reality is
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perfect like oh wow but the reality is
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perfect like oh wow but the reality is that there are some challenges in there
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that there are some challenges in there
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that there are some challenges in there uh you can go to the cloud and make it
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uh you can go to the cloud and make it
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uh you can go to the cloud and make it work but that doesn't necessarily mean
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work but that doesn't necessarily mean
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work but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is automatically great right
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that it is automatically great right
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that it is automatically great right right so in this space tell me about the
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right so in this space tell me about the
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right so in this space tell me about the challenges that people are facing uh
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challenges that people are facing uh
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challenges that people are facing uh there are some challenges what I saw
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there are some challenges what I saw
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there are some challenges what I saw during you know implementations of this
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during you know implementations of this
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during you know implementations of this devops and this instances that have been
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devops and this instances that have been
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devops and this instances that have been placed there are some instances that you
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placed there are some instances that you
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placed there are some instances that you know sometimes it's just a change of an
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know sometimes it's just a change of an
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know sometimes it's just a change of an instance and your bill is reduced but
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instance and your bill is reduced but
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instance and your bill is reduced but every startup you know they need a they
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every startup you know they need a they
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every startup you know they need a they have no money right no money exactly
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have no money right no money exactly
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have no money right no money exactly either they have no money or some people
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either they have no money or some people
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either they have no money or some people those who have money they want it to
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those who have money they want it to
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those who have money they want it to utilize into the best possible way of
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utilize into the best possible way of
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utilize into the best possible way of course you don't want to pay for nothing
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course you don't want to pay for nothing
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course you don't want to pay for nothing that you're not using right exactly
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that you're not using right exactly
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that you're not using right exactly that's why you're getting the cloud
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that's why you're getting the cloud
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that's why you're getting the cloud cloud so this is where what we support
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cloud so this is where what we support
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cloud so this is where what we support people that we check their bill and see
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people that we check their bill and see
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people that we check their bill and see whatever instances they are we can use
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whatever instances they are we can use
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whatever instances they are we can use their micr Services instead of macro
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their micr Services instead of macro
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their micr Services instead of macro services and all with this the bill is
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services and all with this the bill is
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services and all with this the bill is reduced or maybe you know these
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reduced or maybe you know these
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reduced or maybe you know these instances that are suppose if we I'm in
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instances that are suppose if we I'm in
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instances that are suppose if we I'm in India I say that there are some regions
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India I say that there are some regions
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India I say that there are some regions which are being selected in Mumbai
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which are being selected in Mumbai
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which are being selected in Mumbai Mumbai instead of Mumbai we can select
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Mumbai instead of Mumbai we can select
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Mumbai instead of Mumbai we can select Delhi and there could be some saving
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Delhi and there could be some saving
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Delhi and there could be some saving okay which is what startups need that's
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okay which is what startups need that's
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okay which is what startups need that's definitely what startups need uh because
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definitely what startups need uh because
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definitely what startups need uh because they they have the business idea and
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they they have the business idea and
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they they have the business idea and maybe they have good good app developers
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maybe they have good good app developers
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maybe they have good good app developers and a coding team but that doesn't
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and a coding team but that doesn't
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and a coding team but that doesn't necessarily also mean that they know how
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necessarily also mean that they know how
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necessarily also mean that they know how to operate a cloud platform right
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to operate a cloud platform right
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to operate a cloud platform right exactly in fact you know from past 20
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exactly in fact you know from past 20
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exactly in fact you know from past 20 years I have seen lot many clients who
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years I have seen lot many clients who
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years I have seen lot many clients who are who are just not aware about devops
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are who are just not aware about devops
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are who are just not aware about devops and uh putting their website hting on
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and uh putting their website hting on
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and uh putting their website hting on any Cloud but what they say when they
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any Cloud but what they say when they
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any Cloud but what they say when they were giving me orders for developing
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were giving me orders for developing
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were giving me orders for developing something that no this is your job I
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something that no this is your job I
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something that no this is your job I said how come this is a devil's job but
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said how come this is a devil's job but
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said how come this is a devil's job but you don't know how Cloud hosting is been
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you don't know how Cloud hosting is been
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you don't know how Cloud hosting is been working but that that was the problem
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working but that that was the problem
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working but that that was the problem and now I'm trying to solve for at least
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and now I'm trying to solve for at least
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and now I'm trying to solve for at least with the startups and they're happy I'm
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with the startups and they're happy I'm
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with the startups and they're happy I'm happy so how do you approach this uh
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happy so how do you approach this uh
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happy so how do you approach this uh challenge if you will right so somebody
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challenge if you will right so somebody
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challenge if you will right so somebody has uh they're they're trying to use the
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has uh they're they're trying to use the
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has uh they're they're trying to use the cloud and uh well I think we can safely
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cloud and uh well I think we can safely
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cloud and uh well I think we can safely assume that it's unlikely that they're
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assume that it's unlikely that they're
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assume that it's unlikely that they're doing it in an optimal way because I'm a
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doing it in an optimal way because I'm a
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doing it in an optimal way because I'm a consultant in this space and I know some
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consultant in this space and I know some
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consultant in this space and I know some a little bit about that I I have yet to
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a little bit about that I I have yet to
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a little bit about that I I have yet to find a customer or consumer of cloud
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find a customer or consumer of cloud
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find a customer or consumer of cloud services that are using them completely
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services that are using them completely
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services that are using them completely optimally right uh so what how do you
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optimally right uh so what how do you
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optimally right uh so what how do you approach the the problem uh the first
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approach the the problem uh the first
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approach the the problem uh the first thing what I see into there that I asked
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thing what I see into there that I asked
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thing what I see into there that I asked them for the detailed bill right wherein
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them for the detailed bill right wherein
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them for the detailed bill right wherein we see what the consumption bills
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we see what the consumption bills
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we see what the consumption bills consumption bills it's just that we
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consumption bills it's just that we
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consumption bills it's just that we observe the last consumption Bill until
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observe the last consumption Bill until
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observe the last consumption Bill until unless we see the detailed bill because
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unless we see the detailed bill because
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unless we see the detailed bill because with detailed bill we can see whether in
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with detailed bill we can see whether in
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with detailed bill we can see whether in reality the value that they are paying
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reality the value that they are paying
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reality the value that they are paying should be there or not okay if it is not
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should be there or not okay if it is not
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should be there or not okay if it is not there then we just review the whole
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there then we just review the whole
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there then we just review the whole architecture that they had drawn and uh
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architecture that they had drawn and uh
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architecture that they had drawn and uh for uh if I say about AWS they provide
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for uh if I say about AWS they provide
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for uh if I say about AWS they provide us the opportunity for the people who
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us the opportunity for the people who
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us the opportunity for the people who are having more than $5,000 bill we can
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are having more than $5,000 bill we can
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are having more than $5,000 bill we can do it easily because for that the
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do it easily because for that the
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do it easily because for that the customer doesn't have to pay anything
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customer doesn't have to pay anything
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customer doesn't have to pay anything it's for us and we do it for free okay
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it's for us and we do it for free okay
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it's for us and we do it for free okay with that that's a good that's good news
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with that that's a good that's good news
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with that that's a good that's good news if you're a startup yeah so if the
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if you're a startup yeah so if the
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if you're a startup yeah so if the architecture is normally it doesn't work
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architecture is normally it doesn't work
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architecture is normally it doesn't work like that right but so we optimize it
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like that right but so we optimize it
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like that right but so we optimize it and remove all the irregularities that
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and remove all the irregularities that
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and remove all the irregularities that they have mentioned and you're saying
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they have mentioned and you're saying
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they have mentioned and you're saying save even for a smaller Bill a monthly
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save even for a smaller Bill a monthly
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save even for a smaller Bill a monthly bill there's still something to do EX at
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bill there's still something to do EX at
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bill there's still something to do EX at present if I say that I'm even
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present if I say that I'm even
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present if I say that I'm even supporting the clients who are having a
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supporting the clients who are having a
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supporting the clients who are having a bill less than $20 oh wow okay that's
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bill less than $20 oh wow okay that's
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bill less than $20 oh wow okay that's maybe not a best use of your time but
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maybe not a best use of your time but
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maybe not a best use of your time but okay say that you have a larger estate
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okay say that you have a larger estate
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okay say that you have a larger estate then say that you already have some it
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then say that you already have some it
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then say that you already have some it and you're going to the cloud now how do
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and you're going to the cloud now how do
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and you're going to the cloud now how do we approach going to the cloud in a you
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we approach going to the cloud in a you
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we approach going to the cloud in a you know optimized way because in in my
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know optimized way because in in my
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know optimized way because in in my experience right you can probably mostly
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experience right you can probably mostly
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experience right you can probably mostly say that I have a virtual machine with
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say that I have a virtual machine with
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say that I have a virtual machine with applications running and stuff and I can
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applications running and stuff and I can
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applications running and stuff and I can basically run a migration Wizard and
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basically run a migration Wizard and
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basically run a migration Wizard and move this thing to the cloud and make it
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move this thing to the cloud and make it
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move this thing to the cloud and make it run and then then it's running
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run and then then it's running
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run and then then it's running everything is cool right of course it's
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everything is cool right of course it's
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everything is cool right of course it's not cool how do we approach the the the
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not cool how do we approach the the the
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not cool how do we approach the the the those who have resources to begin with
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those who have resources to begin with
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those who have resources to begin with so Frankly Speaking this is a bit
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so Frankly Speaking this is a bit
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so Frankly Speaking this is a bit technical question but I'm into a
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technical question but I'm into a
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technical question but I'm into a business guy but still uh there are some
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business guy but still uh there are some
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business guy but still uh there are some things which we check it's the the
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things which we check it's the the
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things which we check it's the the virtual machines that are running
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virtual machines that are running
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virtual machines that are running whether they are compatible or not
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whether they are compatible or not
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whether they are compatible or not because you know every virtual machine
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because you know every virtual machine
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because you know every virtual machine has specific uh uh GBS and all right
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has specific uh uh GBS and all right
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has specific uh uh GBS and all right along with that the ram has to be there
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along with that the ram has to be there
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along with that the ram has to be there so we verify whether the virtual machine
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so we verify whether the virtual machine
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so we verify whether the virtual machine that has been selected as per the optim
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that has been selected as per the optim
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that has been selected as per the optim uh the bill consumption and the
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uh the bill consumption and the
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uh the bill consumption and the protocols that they have selected is it
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protocols that they have selected is it
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protocols that they have selected is it correct or not because there also it
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correct or not because there also it
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correct or not because there also it happens that the bill can be reduced
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happens that the bill can be reduced
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happens that the bill can be reduced absolutely so this is what our team the
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absolutely so this is what our team the
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absolutely so this is what our team the devop stream that we have they check it
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devop stream that we have they check it
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devop stream that we have they check it thoroughly and in fact I I can give you
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thoroughly and in fact I I can give you
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thoroughly and in fact I I can give you an example but I won't take the client's
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an example but I won't take the client's
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an example but I won't take the client's name but I can tell you that uh I was uh
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name but I can tell you that uh I was uh
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name but I can tell you that uh I was uh implementing this on one of the
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implementing this on one of the
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implementing this on one of the centralized exchange his bill was around
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centralized exchange his bill was around
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centralized exchange his bill was around $115,000 when $15,000 dollar when it
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$115,000 when $15,000 dollar when it
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$115,000 when $15,000 dollar when it came to us right and suddenly we saw we
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came to us right and suddenly we saw we
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came to us right and suddenly we saw we reviewed his we cleared his instances
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reviewed his we cleared his instances
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reviewed his we cleared his instances and he was also surprised that from
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and he was also surprised that from
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and he was also surprised that from $115,000 his bill was reduced to just
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$115,000 his bill was reduced to just
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$115,000 his bill was reduced to just $8,500
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$8,500 wow no way yeah okay so he was
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wow no way yeah okay so he was
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wow no way yeah okay so he was essentially doing
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essentially doing unknowingly using a lot of uh paying for
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unknowingly using a lot of uh paying for
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unknowingly using a lot of uh paying for a lot of resource that he he didn't need
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a lot of resource that he he didn't need
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a lot of resource that he he didn't need right exactly and the one thing was
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right exactly and the one thing was
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right exactly and the one thing was there that he has also included you know
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there that he has also included you know
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there that he has also included you know two three databases which was just not
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two three databases which was just not
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two three databases which was just not required and the consumption of those
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required and the consumption of those
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required and the consumption of those databases was around $2,500 oh my God
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databases was around $2,500 oh my God
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databases was around $2,500 oh my God yeah
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yeah strictly so from the business
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strictly so from the business
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strictly so from the business perspective how do you um so there there
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perspective how do you um so there there
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perspective how do you um so there there is a business idea right there's a
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is a business idea right there's a
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is a business idea right there's a business plan they're going to do
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business plan they're going to do
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business plan they're going to do something they're going to offer a great
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something they're going to offer a great
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something they're going to offer a great service or whatever it is that they're
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service or whatever it is that they're
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service or whatever it is that they're going to be doing with the cloud
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going to be doing with the cloud
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going to be doing with the cloud consumption right so from the business
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consumption right so from the business
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consumption right so from the business perspective how do you
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perspective how do you
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perspective how do you validate that the the use of the cloud
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validate that the the use of the cloud
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validate that the the use of the cloud is is going to be sane so that it's not
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is is going to be sane so that it's not
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is is going to be sane so that it's not insane how do you how do you approach uh
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insane how do you how do you approach uh
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insane how do you how do you approach uh like how do you transform the business
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like how do you transform the business
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like how do you transform the business idea into a cloud plan if you will so uh
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idea into a cloud plan if you will so uh
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idea into a cloud plan if you will so uh it's that you know whenever uh some
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it's that you know whenever uh some
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it's that you know whenever uh some clients come to us and discuss about
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clients come to us and discuss about
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clients come to us and discuss about their plan so we just check and sit with
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their plan so we just check and sit with
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their plan so we just check and sit with our team that this is the plan that how
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our team that this is the plan that how
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our team that this is the plan that how much instances we have to use and what
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much instances we have to use and what
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much instances we have to use and what particularly location Geo territories we
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particularly location Geo territories we
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particularly location Geo territories we have to Target okay based on that it's
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have to Target okay based on that it's
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have to Target okay based on that it's just that we
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just that we see the billing optimization can be done
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see the billing optimization can be done
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see the billing optimization can be done and along with this we see definitely
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and along with this we see definitely
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and along with this we see definitely the budget and based on that we provide
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the budget and based on that we provide
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the budget and based on that we provide them the cloud services the second thing
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them the cloud services the second thing
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them the cloud services the second thing what we do is because you know since I
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what we do is because you know since I
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what we do is because you know since I can uh say for AWS what they are
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can uh say for AWS what they are
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can uh say for AWS what they are providing after starting up the project
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providing after starting up the project
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providing after starting up the project there is a a process for clearing the
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there is a a process for clearing the
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there is a a process for clearing the POC proof of
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POC proof of and if that gets approved definitely it
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and if that gets approved definitely it
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and if that gets approved definitely it takes time and it has to be a solid
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takes time and it has to be a solid
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takes time and it has to be a solid robust P if it takes time they provide
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robust P if it takes time they provide
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robust P if it takes time they provide credits worth from $5,000 to
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credits worth from $5,000 to
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credits worth from $5,000 to $150,000 oh really yeah if that if that
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$150,000 oh really yeah if that if that
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$150,000 oh really yeah if that if that gets
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gets approved you have a win-win situation
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approved you have a win-win situation
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approved you have a win-win situation for one to two years so then basically
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for one to two years so then basically
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for one to two years so then basically so you running free on
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so you running free on
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so you running free on cloud so then basically getting getting
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cloud so then basically getting getting
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cloud so then basically getting getting the professional help to optimize the
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the professional help to optimize the
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the professional help to optimize the Cloud consumption and the cloud bill is
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Cloud consumption and the cloud bill is
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Cloud consumption and the cloud bill is in this case it's paying for itself
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in this case it's paying for itself
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in this case it's paying for itself definitely and ultimately Cloud
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definitely and ultimately Cloud
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definitely and ultimately Cloud platforms they are rewarding us that we
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platforms they are rewarding us that we
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platforms they are rewarding us that we had given a genuine project to them even
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had given a genuine project to them even
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had given a genuine project to them even we are not charging our clients for that
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we are not charging our clients for that
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we are not charging our clients for that but Cloud platform is rewarding us
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but Cloud platform is rewarding us
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but Cloud platform is rewarding us that's great so we have both ways in win
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that's great so we have both ways in win
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that's great so we have both ways in win that we are winning because we are
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that we are winning because we are
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that we are winning because we are earning client is happy because he got
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earning client is happy because he got
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earning client is happy because he got credits A Lot me yeah well what a
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credits A Lot me yeah well what a
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credits A Lot me yeah well what a fantastic way to end an episode of the
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fantastic way to end an episode of the
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fantastic way to end an episode of the cloud show because win-win situations we
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cloud show because win-win situations we
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cloud show because win-win situations we got to take care of those those are very
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got to take care of those those are very
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got to take care of those those are very very important so I want to thank you
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very important so I want to thank you
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very important so I want to thank you for being on the cloud show with me
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for being on the cloud show with me
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for being on the cloud show with me today L and then and audience uh I will
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today L and then and audience uh I will
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today L and then and audience uh I will see you guys