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Aug 6, 2025
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20 years ago a 20 years ago a seed was
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20 years ago a 20 years ago a seed was
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20 years ago a 20 years ago a seed was planted and cared for we painstakingly
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nurtured it and weathered it against
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[Music] good morning and uh welcome to the
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good morning and uh welcome to the
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good morning and uh welcome to the growth mindset
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growth mindset
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growth mindset show my name is Mahesh Chan I'm your
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show my name is Mahesh Chan I'm your
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show my name is Mahesh Chan I'm your host and uh today as you can see my
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host and uh today as you can see my
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host and uh today as you can see my background's a little bit
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background's a little bit
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background's a little bit different um I'm here in San Diego it's
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different um I'm here in San Diego it's
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different um I'm here in San Diego it's a beautiful nice little colder actually
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a beautiful nice little colder actually
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a beautiful nice little colder actually than you would think in San
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than you would think in San
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than you would think in San Diego um
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Diego um
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Diego um 60Ā° and uh we're going to have a I'm
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60Ā° and uh we're going to have a I'm
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60Ā° and uh we're going to have a I'm going to have a you know special guest
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going to have a you know special guest
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going to have a you know special guest today Chris Love in the show so maybe
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today Chris Love in the show so maybe
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today Chris Love in the show so maybe I'll bring Chris love right now Chris uh
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I'll bring Chris love right now Chris uh
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I'll bring Chris love right now Chris uh welcome to the show hey you're mute not
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welcome to the show hey you're mute not
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welcome to the show hey you're mute not anymore all right can you hear me yeah
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anymore all right can you hear me yeah
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anymore all right can you hear me yeah how are you I'm doing good how are
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how are you I'm doing good how are
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how are you I'm doing good how are things in California you it's raining
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things in California you it's raining
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things in California you it's raining here so you're enjoying better weather
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here so you're enjoying better weather
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here so you're enjoying better weather than if you were home well yes so this
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than if you were home well yes so this
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than if you were home well yes so this is nice today you know it was raining
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is nice today you know it was raining
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is nice today you know it was raining here actually until day before yesterday
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here actually until day before yesterday
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here actually until day before yesterday it's think it RS in south southern
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it's think it RS in south southern
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it's think it RS in south southern California yeah it's a little different
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California yeah it's a little different
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California yeah it's a little different for California right San Diego but as
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for California right San Diego but as
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for California right San Diego but as you can see I'm sitting outside it's
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you can see I'm sitting outside it's
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you can see I'm sitting outside it's 9:00 a.m. and now today seems to be like
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9:00 a.m. and now today seems to be like
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9:00 a.m. and now today seems to be like a beautiful day um yeah definitely not
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a beautiful day um yeah definitely not
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a beautiful day um yeah definitely not raining um well everybody who joining
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raining um well everybody who joining
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raining um well everybody who joining the show uh looks like we have a bunch
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the show uh looks like we have a bunch
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the show uh looks like we have a bunch of people joining from LinkedIn which is
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of people joining from LinkedIn which is
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of people joining from LinkedIn which is pretty great awesome everybody welcome
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pretty great awesome everybody welcome
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pretty great awesome everybody welcome to the show if you are first
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to the show if you are first
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to the show if you are first time um this show we talk about anything
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time um this show we talk about anything
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time um this show we talk about anything and everything
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and everything
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and everything you can talk about the tech we can talk
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you can talk about the tech we can talk
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you can talk about the tech we can talk about careers jobs startups whatever
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about careers jobs startups whatever
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about careers jobs startups whatever questions you have just bring your
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questions you have just bring your
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questions you have just bring your questions ask your questions we also
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questions ask your questions we also
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questions ask your questions we also talk about growth in mind growth mindset
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talk about growth in mind growth mindset
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talk about growth in mind growth mindset and communities and uh in general
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and communities and uh in general
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and communities and uh in general anything in software development that's
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anything in software development that's
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anything in software development that's what we do so Chris maybe uh you want to
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what we do so Chris maybe uh you want to
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what we do so Chris maybe uh you want to tell people a little bit about yourself
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tell people a little bit about yourself
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tell people a little bit about yourself what do you do and what you working on
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what do you do and what you working on
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what do you do and what you working on these days it looks like you're working
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these days it looks like you're working
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these days it looks like you're working on very exciting stuff with me we both
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on very exciting stuff with me we both
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on very exciting stuff with me we both trying to work on something very cool so
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trying to work on something very cool so
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trying to work on something very cool so let's talk about a little bit about that
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let's talk about a little bit about that
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let's talk about a little bit about that sure
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sure
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sure um well I if you don't know who I am um
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um well I if you don't know who I am um
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um well I if you don't know who I am um I've been kind of quiet for the last
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I've been kind of quiet for the last
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I've been kind of quiet for the last couple years uh kind of out of the
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couple years uh kind of out of the
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couple years uh kind of out of the Limelight but I used toh do a lot of
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Limelight but I used toh do a lot of
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Limelight but I used toh do a lot of speaking and stuff so a lot of people
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speaking and stuff so a lot of people
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speaking and stuff so a lot of people may remember me but uh I think I don't
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may remember me but uh I think I don't
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may remember me but uh I think I don't know probably been a professional
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know probably been a professional
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know probably been a professional developer since 92 it's first time I got
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developer since 92 it's first time I got
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developer since 92 it's first time I got paid for a project uh so I've got quite
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paid for a project uh so I've got quite
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paid for a project uh so I've got quite a few under my belt and I tend to focus
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a few under my belt and I tend to focus
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a few under my belt and I tend to focus on web stuff although I do a lot of full
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on web stuff although I do a lot of full
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on web stuff although I do a lot of full stack stuff you know part of the job
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stack stuff you know part of the job
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stack stuff you know part of the job um but I like to say I specialize in uh
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um but I like to say I specialize in uh
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um but I like to say I specialize in uh Progressive web apps and making the web
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Progressive web apps and making the web
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Progressive web apps and making the web feel like a native
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feel like a native
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feel like a native application there's a there's a lot of
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application there's a there's a lot of
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application there's a there's a lot of things that the web can do that people
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things that the web can do that people
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things that the web can do that people still don't give it credit for and
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still don't give it credit for and
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still don't give it credit for and that's kind of unfortunate but the web
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that's kind of unfortunate but the web
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that's kind of unfortunate but the web can do pretty much everything native
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can do pretty much everything native
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can do pretty much everything native applications do these days which is
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applications do these days which is
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applications do these days which is great and uh for the last few months
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great and uh for the last few months
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great and uh for the last few months I've been trying to work with you to uh
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I've been trying to work with you to uh
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I've been trying to work with you to uh redo uh the sear corner
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redo uh the sear corner
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redo uh the sear corner platform yes and I don't know how much
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platform yes and I don't know how much
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platform yes and I don't know how much you want to divulge on all that but uh
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you want to divulge on all that but uh
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you want to divulge on all that but uh it's quite a a lot but we going to do a
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it's quite a a lot but we going to do a
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it's quite a a lot but we going to do a little bit today we Canon do a little
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little bit today we Canon do a little
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little bit today we Canon do a little bit today it is quite of an quite an
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bit today it is quite of an quite an
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bit today it is quite of an quite an undertaking U I mean how long have you
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undertaking U I mean how long have you
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undertaking U I mean how long have you had the site going since like 2002 so
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had the site going since like 2002 so
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had the site going since like 2002 so like 20 years right yeah so there's a
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like 20 years right yeah so there's a
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like 20 years right yeah so there's a there's a lot of source code Scar Tissue
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there's a lot of source code Scar Tissue
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there's a lot of source code Scar Tissue which a lot of us walk into when we get
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which a lot of us walk into when we get
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which a lot of us walk into when we get a legacy project and there's you know
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a legacy project and there's you know
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a legacy project and there's you know things you have to deal with from that
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things you have to deal with from that
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things you have to deal with from that perspective plus we're trying to uh
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perspective plus we're trying to uh
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perspective plus we're trying to uh plant a lot of exciting new uh features
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plant a lot of exciting new uh features
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plant a lot of exciting new uh features to the platform
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to the platform
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to the platform so MD welcome to get yourself in trouble
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so MD welcome to get yourself in trouble
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so MD welcome to get yourself in trouble so yeah yeah yeah MD welcome to the show
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so yeah yeah yeah MD welcome to the show
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so yeah yeah yeah MD welcome to the show everybody's uh who's joining us uh my
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everybody's uh who's joining us uh my
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everybody's uh who's joining us uh my name is mahes Chan and I have a guest
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name is mahes Chan and I have a guest
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name is mahes Chan and I have a guest Chris Love uh we are on CP Corner uh we
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Chris Love uh we are on CP Corner uh we
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Chris Love uh we are on CP Corner uh we have this growth mindset show every
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have this growth mindset show every
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have this growth mindset show every Friday and we talk about general you
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Friday and we talk about general you
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Friday and we talk about general you know General Life of software
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know General Life of software
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know General Life of software development and developers yeah I asked
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development and developers yeah I asked
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development and developers yeah I asked wanted to talk about he said yeah we'll
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wanted to talk about he said yeah we'll
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wanted to talk about he said yeah we'll just figure it out yeah so and we go
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just figure it out yeah so and we go
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just figure it out yeah so and we go with the flow you know we don't really
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with the flow you know we don't really
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with the flow you know we don't really plan too much it's a weekly show and let
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plan too much it's a weekly show and let
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plan too much it's a weekly show and let your questions coming questions can be
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your questions coming questions can be
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your questions coming questions can be anything it can be anything about your
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anything it can be anything about your
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anything it can be anything about your career your job your uh I don't know
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career your job your uh I don't know
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career your job your uh I don't know Consulting
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Consulting
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Consulting startups um book publishing Community
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startups um book publishing Community
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startups um book publishing Community anything you have question just let them
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anything you have question just let them
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anything you have question just let them come and then uh you know after you know
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come and then uh you know after you know
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come and then uh you know after you know five or 10 minutes and so we'll just
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five or 10 minutes and so we'll just
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five or 10 minutes and so we'll just talking about we'll take your questions
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talking about we'll take your questions
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talking about we'll take your questions so we are here for you that's the that's
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so we are here for you that's the that's
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so we are here for you that's the that's the end goal here I want to make sure
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the end goal here I want to make sure
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the end goal here I want to make sure that um you know we get your questions
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that um you know we get your questions
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that um you know we get your questions covered so yes uh s s uh I think we got
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covered so yes uh s s uh I think we got
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covered so yes uh s s uh I think we got a message we got a question from
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a message we got a question from
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a message we got a question from LinkedIn we will uh uh sorry if I
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LinkedIn we will uh uh sorry if I
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LinkedIn we will uh uh sorry if I misspell your name well we will take
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misspell your name well we will take
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misspell your name well we will take your question in a second um yeah so
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your question in a second um yeah so
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your question in a second um yeah so today let's do a little bit housekeeping
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today let's do a little bit housekeeping
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today let's do a little bit housekeeping anybody who's joining us from India I
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anybody who's joining us from India I
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anybody who's joining us from India I saw world cup India lost how about that
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saw world cup India lost how about that
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saw world cup India lost how about that that doesn't sound good to me we had
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that doesn't sound good to me we had
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that doesn't sound good to me we had bunch of bad newses this this last week
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bunch of bad newses this this last week
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bunch of bad newses this this last week India lost in cricket Cricket World Cup
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India lost in cricket Cricket World Cup
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India lost in cricket Cricket World Cup out in the
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out in the
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out in the semi-final and then Phillies lost in
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semi-final and then Phillies lost in
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semi-final and then Phillies lost in World Cup
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World Cup
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World Cup final he's lost in our Philadelphia
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final he's lost in our Philadelphia
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final he's lost in our Philadelphia Union Philly they lost soccer World Cup
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Union Philly they lost soccer World Cup
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Union Philly they lost soccer World Cup Final in the first city first city on
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Final in the first city first city on
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Final in the first city first city on record to ever lose two major
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record to ever lose two major
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record to ever lose two major professional championships on the same
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professional championships on the same
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professional championships on the same day yes same day same day that's yeah it
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day yes same day same day that's yeah it
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day yes same day same day that's yeah it wasn't good it wasn't good that's okay
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wasn't good it wasn't good that's okay
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wasn't good it wasn't good that's okay I'm a Texas Rangers Fan so I had nothing
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I'm a Texas Rangers Fan so I had nothing
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I'm a Texas Rangers Fan so I had nothing to cheer for All
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to cheer for All
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to cheer for All Season hey Eagles doing good so you know
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Season hey Eagles doing good so you know
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Season hey Eagles doing good so you know hopefully Eagles will be good this year
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hopefully Eagles will be good this year
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hopefully Eagles will be good this year yeah I'm a Cowboys fan so yeah Cowboy
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yeah I'm a Cowboys fan so yeah Cowboy
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yeah I'm a Cowboys fan so yeah Cowboy definitely gonna get beat at Big times
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definitely gonna get beat at Big times
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definitely gonna get beat at Big times no that's for
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no that's for
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no that's for sure uh deep welcome to the show um okay
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sure uh deep welcome to the show um okay
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sure uh deep welcome to the show um okay so yeah guys what one thing I want to
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so yeah guys what one thing I want to
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so yeah guys what one thing I want to talk today is Chris and not lot I want
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talk today is Chris and not lot I want
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talk today is Chris and not lot I want to talk a little bit so you know how we
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to talk a little bit so you know how we
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to talk a little bit so you know how we had a we had an amazing conference in
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had a we had an amazing conference in
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had a we had an amazing conference in India um what last month October I think
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India um what last month October I think
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India um what last month October I think it was in October I
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it was in October I
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it was in October I think uh it's not even a month yet but
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think uh it's not even a month yet but
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think uh it's not even a month yet but it was amazing conference so we now have
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it was amazing conference so we now have
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it was amazing conference so we now have start getting the videos and the content
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start getting the videos and the content
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start getting the videos and the content from the conference looks amazing so if
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from the conference looks amazing so if
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from the conference looks amazing so if you had attended the conference and
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you had attended the conference and
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you had attended the conference and you're looking for your photos we have a
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you're looking for your photos we have a
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you're looking for your photos we have a lot of them we have videos we're going
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lot of them we have videos we're going
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lot of them we have videos we're going to start putting them
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to start putting them
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to start putting them online and then um um and then you can
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online and then um um and then you can
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online and then um um and then you can find yourself and hopefully you share on
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find yourself and hopefully you share on
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find yourself and hopefully you share on social media we always like to share
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social media we always like to share
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social media we always like to share this on social media and the reason is
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this on social media and the reason is
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this on social media and the reason is it uh you know brings more awareness to
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it uh you know brings more awareness to
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it uh you know brings more awareness to other people gets excitement going on um
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other people gets excitement going on um
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other people gets excitement going on um so that's really big idea with whole
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so that's really big idea with whole
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so that's really big idea with whole communities you know we want to make
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communities you know we want to make
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communities you know we want to make sure the you know people are still
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sure the you know people are still
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sure the you know people are still excited they are happy they're learning
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excited they are happy they're learning
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excited they are happy they're learning they're sharing all those good things
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they're sharing all those good things
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they're sharing all those good things so Chris you have been a you have been a
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so Chris you have been a you have been a
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so Chris you have been a you have been a a blogger for what 25 20 some years or
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a blogger for what 25 20 some years or
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a blogger for what 25 20 some years or so right I think I actually started
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so right I think I actually started
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so right I think I actually started blogging in uh feels like 2015 time
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blogging in uh feels like 2015 time
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blogging in uh feels like 2015 time frame I can't remember yeah so it's been
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frame I can't remember yeah so it's been
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frame I can't remember yeah so it's been even yeah it's been before I even
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even yeah it's been before I even
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even yeah it's been before I even started right I started 19 no oh 2015 oh
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started right I started 19 no oh 2015 oh
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started right I started 19 no oh 2015 oh that's not that long okay well it's I
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that's not that long okay well it's I
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that's not that long okay well it's I mean I haven't honestly I haven't
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mean I haven't honestly I haven't
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mean I haven't honestly I haven't written anything in two years I think
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written anything in two years I think
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written anything in two years I think yeah yeah
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yeah yeah
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yeah yeah I kind of just hit a wall and I was just
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I kind of just hit a wall and I was just
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I kind of just hit a wall and I was just like but yeah I've probably published
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like but yeah I've probably published
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like but yeah I've probably published several thousand articles
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several thousand articles
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several thousand articles several I think it's six maybe seven
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several I think it's six maybe seven
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several I think it's six maybe seven books yeah two of them two of them
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books yeah two of them two of them
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books yeah two of them two of them aren't aren't developer related but yeah
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aren't aren't developer related but yeah
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aren't aren't developer related but yeah yeah yeah so you know there's a there's
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yeah yeah so you know there's a there's
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yeah yeah so you know there's a there's a there's many developers out there they
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a there's many developers out there they
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a there's many developers out there they are more you call them senior developers
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are more you call them senior developers
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are more you call them senior developers experienced developers they have been in
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experienced developers they have been in
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experienced developers they have been in this blogging and MVP and sharing and
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this blogging and MVP and sharing and
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this blogging and MVP and sharing and learning space for almost you know 10 15
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learning space for almost you know 10 15
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learning space for almost you know 10 15 20 years right like our friend our
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20 years right like our friend our
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20 years right like our friend our friend here David MacArthur he's been
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friend here David MacArthur he's been
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friend here David MacArthur he's been around I don't know 25 years right he
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around I don't know 25 years right he
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around I don't know 25 years right he was way before I started c corner so a
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was way before I started c corner so a
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was way before I started c corner so a lot of bloggers and authors like you
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lot of bloggers and authors like you
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lot of bloggers and authors like you know us and David and they have these
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know us and David and they have these
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know us and David and they have these small blogs you know where it used to do
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small blogs you know where it used to do
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small blogs you know where it used to do something good they started as a hobby
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something good they started as a hobby
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something good they started as a hobby it made some money a little bit money
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it made some money a little bit money
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it made some money a little bit money from ads but now what's happening is
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from ads but now what's happening is
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from ads but now what's happening is they don't make any money like you don't
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they don't make any money like you don't
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they don't make any money like you don't make any money from your blog yeah um so
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make any money from your blog yeah um so
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make any money from your blog yeah um so one of the idea you know you and I
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one of the idea you know you and I
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one of the idea you know you and I talked about this morning is we are
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talked about this morning is we are
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talked about this morning is we are going to build something so they can
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going to build something so they can
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going to build something so they can bring their blogs you know bring your
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bring their blogs you know bring your
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bring their blogs you know bring your own like
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own like
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own like Bob so we will do like bring your blog
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Bob so we will do like bring your blog
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Bob so we will do like bring your blog to the platform so we're going to launch
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to the platform so we're going to launch
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to the platform so we're going to launch some something like that um and uh I
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some something like that um and uh I
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some something like that um and uh I think what we want to do is figure out a
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think what we want to do is figure out a
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think what we want to do is figure out a way to reward those people who wants to
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way to reward those people who wants to
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way to reward those people who wants to bring and they don't want to maintain
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bring and they don't want to maintain
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bring and they don't want to maintain their own blogging platform website
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their own blogging platform website
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their own blogging platform website anymore because a lot of work they don't
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anymore because a lot of work they don't
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anymore because a lot of work they don't really make it becomes work for them
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really make it becomes work for them
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really make it becomes work for them right and now everybody's have kids and
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right and now everybody's have kids and
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right and now everybody's have kids and Senior and they don't have time and so
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Senior and they don't have time and so
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Senior and they don't have time and so on so forth so yeah I think I think in
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on so forth so yeah I think I think in
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on so forth so yeah I think I think in general what I see is uh like younger
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general what I see is uh like younger
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general what I see is uh like younger developers whose family has not quite
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developers whose family has not quite
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developers whose family has not quite matured yet let's say had a little more
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matured yet let's say had a little more
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matured yet let's say had a little more free time to get into it but it's you
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free time to get into it but it's you
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free time to get into it but it's you start getting kids and they grow
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start getting kids and they grow
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start getting kids and they grow up you don't have as much free time at
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up you don't have as much free time at
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up you don't have as much free time at night to yeah focus on those kind of
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night to yeah focus on those kind of
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night to yeah focus on those kind of things and it becomes a lower and lower
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things and it becomes a lower and lower
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things and it becomes a lower and lower priority So eventually your your
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priority So eventually your your
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priority So eventually your your momentum decays and some I think some of
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momentum decays and some I think some of
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momentum decays and some I think some of our friends have even kind of forgot
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our friends have even kind of forgot
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our friends have even kind of forgot they even had stuff out there you know
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they even had stuff out there you know
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they even had stuff out there you know it's yeah they just keep paying for the
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it's yeah they just keep paying for the
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it's yeah they just keep paying for the domain name and it keeps going you know
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domain name and it keeps going you know
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domain name and it keeps going you know so yeah all right let's take a couple of
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so yeah all right let's take a couple of
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so yeah all right let's take a couple of questions this is good we'll continue
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questions this is good we'll continue
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questions this is good we'll continue talking about this but I want to take
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talking about this but I want to take
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talking about this but I want to take some questions at least so get the
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some questions at least so get the
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some questions at least so get the conversation going on so say I think
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conversation going on so say I think
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conversation going on so say I think hopefully I'm saying your name right s
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hopefully I'm saying your name right s
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hopefully I'm saying your name right s sayi um is says how first of all she
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sayi um is says how first of all she
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sayi um is says how first of all she thank you she says I find everything I
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thank you she says I find everything I
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thank you she says I find everything I need in CP Corner thanks for creating
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need in CP Corner thanks for creating
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need in CP Corner thanks for creating such a great platform uh we appreciate
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such a great platform uh we appreciate
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such a great platform uh we appreciate it thank you so much for you at least
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it thank you so much for you at least
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it thank you so much for you at least using C Corner and we are glad that it's
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using C Corner and we are glad that it's
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using C Corner and we are glad that it's benefiting you and there that's the
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benefiting you and there that's the
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benefiting you and there that's the purpose of the community right and then
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purpose of the community right and then
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purpose of the community right and then she has a question how to get a job
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she has a question how to get a job
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she has a question how to get a job opportunity as a mid-level developer uh
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opportunity as a mid-level developer uh
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opportunity as a mid-level developer uh well midle level developer you can add
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well midle level developer you can add
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well midle level developer you can add Chris to that too that there's a lot of
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Chris to that too that there's a lot of
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Chris to that too that there's a lot of jobs out there uh I not sure where you
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jobs out there uh I not sure where you
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jobs out there uh I not sure where you live and what your conditions are but if
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live and what your conditions are but if
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live and what your conditions are but if you are in say India and us there's no
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you are in say India and us there's no
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you are in say India and us there's no shortage of jobs for sure there's a you
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shortage of jobs for sure there's a you
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shortage of jobs for sure there's a you know developers are in demand and it
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know developers are in demand and it
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know developers are in demand and it also depends on what technology you're
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also depends on what technology you're
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also depends on what technology you're using uh you are expert in and you have
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using uh you are expert in and you have
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using uh you are expert in and you have experience in um but how do you get job
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experience in um but how do you get job
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experience in um but how do you get job opportunity to answer that question I
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opportunity to answer that question I
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opportunity to answer that question I think my
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think my
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think my biggest uh point is that networking
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biggest uh point is that networking
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biggest uh point is that networking networking
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networking
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networking networking more people know and uh more
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networking more people know and uh more
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networking more people know and uh more people your friends you have um it's
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people your friends you have um it's
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people your friends you have um it's easy to get easy jobs at least in the US
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easy to get easy jobs at least in the US
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easy to get easy jobs at least in the US um you know 92% of jobs are actually
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um you know 92% of jobs are actually
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um you know 92% of jobs are actually come from referrals and who you know uh
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come from referrals and who you know uh
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come from referrals and who you know uh you want to add something that to that
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you want to add something that to that
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you want to add something that to that Chris I think I think you're you're
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Chris I think I think you're you're
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Chris I think I think you're you're nailed like the number one thing you
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nailed like the number one thing you
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nailed like the number one thing you know I would say well I would say two
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know I would say well I would say two
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know I would say well I would say two things along those lines for me
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things along those lines for me
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things along those lines for me personally uh I think the best decision
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personally uh I think the best decision
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personally uh I think the best decision I ever made was to get involved in the
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I ever made was to get involved in the
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I ever made was to get involved in the local user group when I was back in
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local user group when I was back in
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local user group when I was back in Raleigh trug and start networking with
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Raleigh trug and start networking with
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Raleigh trug and start networking with those guys and build friendships and
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those guys and build friendships and
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those guys and build friendships and relationships with them in fact I still
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relationships with them in fact I still
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relationships with them in fact I still have those friendships even though I
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have those friendships even though I
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have those friendships even though I have not lived in Raleigh for since 2009
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have not lived in Raleigh for since 2009
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have not lived in Raleigh for since 2009 yeah in fact I had a had a conversation
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yeah in fact I had a had a conversation
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yeah in fact I had a had a conversation with one of the guys this week that I
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with one of the guys this week that I
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with one of the guys this week that I hadn't heard from in probably two or
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hadn't heard from in probably two or
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hadn't heard from in probably two or three years yeah just catching up but
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three years yeah just catching up but
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three years yeah just catching up but the thing about that is it is it helped
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the thing about that is it is it helped
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the thing about that is it is it helped me accelerate my skill set as a software
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me accelerate my skill set as a software
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me accelerate my skill set as a software engineer um Not only was I monthly had a
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engineer um Not only was I monthly had a
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engineer um Not only was I monthly had a big monthly meeting um getting exposed
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big monthly meeting um getting exposed
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big monthly meeting um getting exposed to something I may or may not have any
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to something I may or may not have any
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to something I may or may not have any direct contact with you know technology
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direct contact with you know technology
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direct contact with you know technology wise I was also having those
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wise I was also having those
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wise I was also having those conversations with those guys about like
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conversations with those guys about like
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conversations with those guys about like she's asking how to get a job what is
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she's asking how to get a job what is
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she's asking how to get a job what is life what is life like in a different in
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life what is life like in a different in
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life what is life like in a different in some of the different companies say
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some of the different companies say
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some of the different companies say around Raleigh that people were getting
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around Raleigh that people were getting
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around Raleigh that people were getting jobs um what are some of the things to
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jobs um what are some of the things to
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jobs um what are some of the things to look out for who to connect with uh and
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look out for who to connect with uh and
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look out for who to connect with uh and then that that then parlayed into me uh
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then that that then parlayed into me uh
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then that that then parlayed into me uh having a confidence to start say doing
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having a confidence to start say doing
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having a confidence to start say doing the blog and that then led to uh the
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the blog and that then led to uh the
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the blog and that then led to uh the first book that I wrote which I think
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first book that I wrote which I think
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first book that I wrote which I think was the the big first step to get to be
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was the the big first step to get to be
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was the the big first step to get to be a Microsoft MVP which then leveled up
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a Microsoft MVP which then leveled up
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a Microsoft MVP which then leveled up even more so like every time you do
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even more so like every time you do
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even more so like every time you do something you kind of continually keep
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something you kind of continually keep
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something you kind of continually keep leveling up but I think it all starts
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leveling up but I think it all starts
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leveling up but I think it all starts with finding people that you can connect
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with finding people that you can connect
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with finding people that you can connect with um and not necessarily the ones you
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with um and not necessarily the ones you
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with um and not necessarily the ones you work with but having that sense of
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work with but having that sense of
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work with but having that sense of community and I do miss having uh you
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community and I do miss having uh you
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community and I do miss having uh you know actual groups where we went and go
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know actual groups where we went and go
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know actual groups where we went and go see each other at least once in month
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see each other at least once in month
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see each other at least once in month try not good because we also had smaller
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try not good because we also had smaller
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try not good because we also had smaller technology focused week uh meetings that
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technology focused week uh meetings that
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technology focused week uh meetings that were kind of sitting around a table a
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were kind of sitting around a table a
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were kind of sitting around a table a lot of times just talking about things
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lot of times just talking about things
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lot of times just talking about things uh each week on top of the main main
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uh each week on top of the main main
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uh each week on top of the main main meeting and then we started having the
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meeting and then we started having the
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meeting and then we started having the code camps and all that kind of stuff so
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code camps and all that kind of stuff so
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code camps and all that kind of stuff so I would say that's that's the first
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I would say that's that's the first
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I would say that's that's the first thing because it's it's got to be
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thing because it's it's got to be
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thing because it's it's got to be learning and and learning is not
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learning and and learning is not
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learning and and learning is not necessarily reading content but I would
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necessarily reading content but I would
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necessarily reading content but I would also say you constantly need to be
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also say you constantly need to be
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also say you constantly need to be allocating time whether it's in your
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allocating time whether it's in your
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allocating time whether it's in your margins or you know specifically say I'm
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margins or you know specifically say I'm
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margins or you know specifically say I'm going to spend four or five hours this
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going to spend four or five hours this
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going to spend four or five hours this month and I'm going to learn a new
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month and I'm going to learn a new
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month and I'm going to learn a new technology and or some some new API or
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technology and or some some new API or
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technology and or some some new API or an API that it's new to you uh that you
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an API that it's new to you uh that you
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an API that it's new to you uh that you think may be useful or at least
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think may be useful or at least
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think may be useful or at least interesting to you because all that
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interesting to you because all that
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interesting to you because all that stuff just keeps adding on and stacking
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stuff just keeps adding on and stacking
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stuff just keeps adding on and stacking on and then the next level thing as you
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on and then the next level thing as you
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on and then the next level thing as you learn to do things and you get
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learn to do things and you get
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learn to do things and you get experience see where there's holes in
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experience see where there's holes in
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experience see where there's holes in the content that you found that taught
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the content that you found that taught
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the content that you found that taught you and then come to C Corner and write
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you and then come to C Corner and write
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you and then come to C Corner and write an article or maybe even create a video
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an article or maybe even create a video
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an article or maybe even create a video Yeah and explain how to fill that hole
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Yeah and explain how to fill that hole
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Yeah and explain how to fill that hole you know how to fill that void of
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you know how to fill that void of
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you know how to fill that void of knowledge that's out there because what
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knowledge that's out there because what
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knowledge that's out there because what happens as you start sharing that
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happens as you start sharing that
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happens as you start sharing that content publicly you're building a CV
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content publicly you're building a CV
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content publicly you're building a CV yes and it's a living CV that you don't
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yes and it's a living CV that you don't
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yes and it's a living CV that you don't have to worry about like a formal piece
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have to worry about like a formal piece
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have to worry about like a formal piece of paper but it's like real tangible
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of paper but it's like real tangible
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of paper but it's like real tangible proof that you know what you're you're
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proof that you know what you're you're
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proof that you know what you're you're doing uh the a common compliment I would
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doing uh the a common compliment I would
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doing uh the a common compliment I would say that I get from people reaching out
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say that I get from people reaching out
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say that I get from people reaching out to me for
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to me for
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to me for projects is I've got most of the I would
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projects is I've got most of the I would
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projects is I've got most of the I would say the broadest set of Articles and
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say the broadest set of Articles and
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say the broadest set of Articles and content on Progressive web apps and
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content on Progressive web apps and
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content on Progressive web apps and they're just like every time I looked up
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they're just like every time I looked up
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they're just like every time I looked up anything around Progressive web app you
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anything around Progressive web app you
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anything around Progressive web app you came up
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came up
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came up somewhere so to me that was that kind of
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somewhere so to me that was that kind of
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somewhere so to me that was that kind of sets me in as somebody who really knows
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sets me in as somebody who really knows
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sets me in as somebody who really knows what what's going on in that space So
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what what's going on in that space So
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what what's going on in that space So yeah so let's summarize that it's a
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yeah so let's summarize that it's a
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yeah so let's summarize that it's a great question um I think lot of
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great question um I think lot of
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great question um I think lot of developers they sit in their cubes and
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developers they sit in their cubes and
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developers they sit in their cubes and they don't go outside of their work and
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they don't go outside of their work and
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they don't go outside of their work and that's when problem comes when they're
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that's when problem comes when they're
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that's when problem comes when they're looking for a new job so the as you I'm
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looking for a new job so the as you I'm
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looking for a new job so the as you I'm going to recap what you just said is uh
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going to recap what you just said is uh
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going to recap what you just said is uh to answer say the your your how do you
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to answer say the your your how do you
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to answer say the your your how do you get opportunity it's a process right
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get opportunity it's a process right
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get opportunity it's a process right people go people go for jobs when they
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people go people go for jobs when they
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people go people go for jobs when they need job but you need to start working
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need job but you need to start working
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need job but you need to start working on this while you already have a job
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on this while you already have a job
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on this while you already have a job every day or every week allocate some
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every day or every week allocate some
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every day or every week allocate some time as Chris said for learning new
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time as Chris said for learning new
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time as Chris said for learning new things when you learn new things you
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things when you learn new things you
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things when you learn new things you share them on this community like The C
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share them on this community like The C
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share them on this community like The C Corner GitHub LinkedIn wherever you like
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Corner GitHub LinkedIn wherever you like
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Corner GitHub LinkedIn wherever you like you know C Corner is obviously better
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you know C Corner is obviously better
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you know C Corner is obviously better because we it's our platform we are
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because we it's our platform we are
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because we it's our platform we are being selfish here uh but C cor has
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being selfish here uh but C cor has
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being selfish here uh but C cor has bigger rewards means we don't just ask
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bigger rewards means we don't just ask
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bigger rewards means we don't just ask people to just go and contribute we are
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people to just go and contribute we are
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people to just go and contribute we are also engaged that how can we help our
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also engaged that how can we help our
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also engaged that how can we help our members to connect to the right people
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members to connect to the right people
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members to connect to the right people right companies and right user groups
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right companies and right user groups
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right companies and right user groups right so a lot of our members who became
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right so a lot of our members who became
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right so a lot of our members who became started as a writing articles or sharing
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started as a writing articles or sharing
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started as a writing articles or sharing code now are authors and they are
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code now are authors and they are
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code now are authors and they are speakers because we give them the
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speakers because we give them the
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speakers because we give them the platform for more than just just writing
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platform for more than just just writing
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platform for more than just just writing articles right it's more than that you
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articles right it's more than that you
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articles right it's more than that you come on a show you talk about it so when
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come on a show you talk about it so when
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come on a show you talk about it so when you're out there as Chris said building
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you're out there as Chris said building
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you're out there as Chris said building your live CV your resume profile that's
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your live CV your resume profile that's
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your live CV your resume profile that's when companies really hire you so if you
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when companies really hire you so if you
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when companies really hire you so if you start doing that for few hours a week
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start doing that for few hours a week
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start doing that for few hours a week then companies and jobs will come to you
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then companies and jobs will come to you
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then companies and jobs will come to you you don't have to go to the the jobs
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you don't have to go to the the jobs
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you don't have to go to the the jobs right and that's the best situation to
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right and that's the best situation to
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right and that's the best situation to be when jobs start coming to you and as
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be when jobs start coming to you and as
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be when jobs start coming to you and as Chris said most of jobs me in the early
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Chris said most of jobs me in the early
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Chris said most of jobs me in the early age all my projects and jobs came
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age all my projects and jobs came
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age all my projects and jobs came because people were reading my articles
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because people were reading my articles
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because people were reading my articles on Shar corner I never went and apply
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on Shar corner I never went and apply
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on Shar corner I never went and apply for a job jobs are already looking for
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for a job jobs are already looking for
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for a job jobs are already looking for me just because of that so think last
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me just because of that so think last
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me just because of that so think last time I actually applied for a job yeah I
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time I actually applied for a job yeah I
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time I actually applied for a job yeah I you know and funny thing is every every
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you know and funny thing is every every
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you know and funny thing is every every time you know some somebody called me
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time you know some somebody called me
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time you know some somebody called me hey we are hiring a software V ER and I
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hey we are hiring a software V ER and I
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hey we are hiring a software V ER and I walk in they're like oh we already know
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walk in they're like oh we already know
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walk in they're like oh we already know you we read your article so I'm not
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you we read your article so I'm not
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you we read your article so I'm not going to interview so a lot of time I
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going to interview so a lot of time I
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going to interview so a lot of time I didn't know a lot of things but I got
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didn't know a lot of things but I got
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didn't know a lot of things but I got job you know um yeah so let's take
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job you know um yeah so let's take
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job you know um yeah so let's take another question from MD which is a
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another question from MD which is a
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another question from MD which is a great question actually this is amazing
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great question actually this is amazing
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great question actually this is amazing question every young developer should
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question every young developer should
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question every young developer should understand and listen to this what I'm
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understand and listen to this what I'm
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understand and listen to this what I'm going to say now and and I'll have Chris
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going to say now and and I'll have Chris
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going to say now and and I'll have Chris also Chim in there sometimes experience
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also Chim in there sometimes experience
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also Chim in there sometimes experience developers become Arrogant with juniors
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developers become Arrogant with juniors
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developers become Arrogant with juniors what's your thought on this and this
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what's your thought on this and this
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what's your thought on this and this happens a lot great question MD and it's
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happens a lot great question MD and it's
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happens a lot great question MD and it's not yeah so it's a Juniors too so what
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not yeah so it's a Juniors too so what
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not yeah so it's a Juniors too so what happens is lot of developers obviously
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happens is lot of developers obviously
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happens is lot of developers obviously they have big hats they think they are
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they have big hats they think they are
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they have big hats they think they are better than everybody and that's one of
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better than everybody and that's one of
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better than everybody and that's one of the flaws being a developer and because
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the flaws being a developer and because
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the flaws being a developer and because that's how we live um a lot of people
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that's how we live um a lot of people
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that's how we live um a lot of people are like that senior people to
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are like that senior people to
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are like that senior people to me uh my thought is that it's a nonsense
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me uh my thought is that it's a nonsense
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me uh my thought is that it's a nonsense it's a stupidity um arrogance is nothing
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it's a stupidity um arrogance is nothing
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it's a stupidity um arrogance is nothing but it kind of stops your growth gr
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but it kind of stops your growth gr
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but it kind of stops your growth gr right and once you start thinking you're
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right and once you start thinking you're
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right and once you start thinking you're better than others or you know more than
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better than others or you know more than
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better than others or you know more than others that's when your growth stops as
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others that's when your growth stops as
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others that's when your growth stops as a as a person as a human uh so to me we
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a as a person as a human uh so to me we
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a as a person as a human uh so to me we I don't believe in that I personally and
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I don't believe in that I personally and
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I don't believe in that I personally and I don't like when people start thinking
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I don't like when people start thinking
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I don't like when people start thinking like I'm better than others because end
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like I'm better than others because end
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like I'm better than others because end of the day if you're better than others
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of the day if you're better than others
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of the day if you're better than others somebody's better than you there's
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somebody's better than you there's
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somebody's better than you there's always somebody better than you so
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always somebody better than you so
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always somebody better than you so that's my view on it um Chris you want
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that's my view on it um Chris you want
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that's my view on it um Chris you want to add something to that well I worry
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to add something to that well I worry
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to add something to that well I worry about the for my me like trying to work
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about the for my me like trying to work
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about the for my me like trying to work with newer developers I worry about how
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with newer developers I worry about how
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with newer developers I worry about how I come across because yeah I do try to
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I come across because yeah I do try to
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I come across because yeah I do try to help and I do and I am trying to help
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help and I do and I am trying to help
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help and I do and I am trying to help sometimes there are deadlines and things
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sometimes there are deadlines and things
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sometimes there are deadlines and things that are in the way too that you know
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that are in the way too that you know
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that are in the way too that you know you you kind of have to be cognizant of
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you you kind of have to be cognizant of
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you you kind of have to be cognizant of and so that can come across as very
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and so that can come across as very
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and so that can come across as very aggressive I guess that's what I worry
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aggressive I guess that's what I worry
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aggressive I guess that's what I worry about um so from my perspective I'm
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about um so from my perspective I'm
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about um so from my perspective I'm looking at it now is all these years
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looking at it now is all these years
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looking at it now is all these years trying to
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trying to
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trying to share that with the Next Generation or
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share that with the Next Generation or
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share that with the Next Generation or two coming up and I want to I want to be
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two coming up and I want to I want to be
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two coming up and I want to I want to be allowed to U work with them but I'm
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allowed to U work with them but I'm
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allowed to U work with them but I'm gonna make mistakes just like they're G
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gonna make mistakes just like they're G
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gonna make mistakes just like they're G to make mistakes and I like to hope that
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to make mistakes and I like to hope that
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to make mistakes and I like to hope that I've got some leeway on that I've had
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I've got some leeway on that I've had
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I've got some leeway on that I've had I've had a lot of negative experiences
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I've had a lot of negative experiences
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I've had a lot of negative experiences with
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with
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with developers not liking what I'm saying
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developers not liking what I'm saying
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developers not liking what I'm saying sometimes and sometimes I wonder if it's
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sometimes and sometimes I wonder if it's
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sometimes and sometimes I wonder if it's how what I'm coming across or just that
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how what I'm coming across or just that
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how what I'm coming across or just that they don't like the reality of what
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they don't like the reality of what
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they don't like the reality of what they're asking me and the answer to that
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they're asking me and the answer to that
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they're asking me and the answer to that so that's that's part of the problem but
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so that's that's part of the problem but
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so that's that's part of the problem but that's one of the reasons why I got out
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that's one of the reasons why I got out
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that's one of the reasons why I got out in the community and started working
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in the community and started working
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in the community and started working because it could be
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because it could be
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because it could be somebody who's my age who just doesn't
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somebody who's my age who just doesn't
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somebody who's my age who just doesn't have any experience with Progressive web
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have any experience with Progressive web
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have any experience with Progressive web apps or it could be somebody who's 25
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apps or it could be somebody who's 25
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apps or it could be somebody who's 25 you know kind of thing so it doesn't the
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you know kind of thing so it doesn't the
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you know kind of thing so it doesn't the age doesn't matter it's kind of where
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age doesn't matter it's kind of where
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age doesn't matter it's kind of where you're at with stuff yeah but at the
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you're at with stuff yeah but at the
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you're at with stuff yeah but at the same time there were people that I
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same time there were people that I
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same time there were people that I looked at that mentored me along the way
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looked at that mentored me along the way
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looked at that mentored me along the way and I still think about those co-workers
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and I still think about those co-workers
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and I still think about those co-workers and people that I started with I've I've
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and people that I started with I've I've
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and people that I started with I've I've actually been thinking a lot about uh
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actually been thinking a lot about uh
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actually been thinking a lot about uh actually my second job the guys I worked
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actually my second job the guys I worked
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actually my second job the guys I worked with on that team because they were
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with on that team because they were
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with on that team because they were really good
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really good
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really good developers uh and what I've learned what
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developers uh and what I've learned what
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developers uh and what I've learned what I learned from working with those guys
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I learned from working with those guys
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I learned from working with those guys that I still use to this day and how
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that I still use to this day and how
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that I still use to this day and how that they they were able to transfer
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that they they were able to transfer
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that they they were able to transfer habits and basic patterns and stuff
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habits and basic patterns and stuff
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habits and basic patterns and stuff along the way and so you know here I am
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along the way and so you know here I am
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along the way and so you know here I am you know like 20 years later I guess or
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you know like 20 years later I guess or
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you know like 20 years later I guess or more maybe 25 years later um still
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more maybe 25 years later um still
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more maybe 25 years later um still looking back on on that that two or
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looking back on on that that two or
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looking back on on that that two or three year experience there with those
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three year experience there with those
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three year experience there with those guys and just how much it helped me
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guys and just how much it helped me
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guys and just how much it helped me going along but they were they were
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going along but they were they were
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going along but they were they were really good at working with me on things
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really good at working with me on things
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really good at working with me on things too and let me kind of do projects and
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too and let me kind of do projects and
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too and let me kind of do projects and stuff so I was thankful to be with them
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stuff so I was thankful to be with them
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stuff so I was thankful to be with them too so yeah yeah personally I just worry
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too so yeah yeah personally I just worry
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too so yeah yeah personally I just worry about how I come across I don't want to
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about how I come across I don't want to
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about how I come across I don't want to I don't want to I want to help people I
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I don't want to I want to help people I
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I don't want to I want to help people I don't want to talk down or put down
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don't want to talk down or put down
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don't want to talk down or put down people I want I want to elevate them as
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people I want I want to elevate them as
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people I want I want to elevate them as much as I can because it makes it makes
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much as I can because it makes it makes
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much as I can because it makes it makes our team better yeah yeah and and and
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our team better yeah yeah and and and
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our team better yeah yeah and and and from the junior point of view if you are
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from the junior point of view if you are
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from the junior point of view if you are Junior and somebody being arrogant to
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Junior and somebody being arrogant to
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Junior and somebody being arrogant to you it's fine um it's nothing wrong you
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you it's fine um it's nothing wrong you
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you it's fine um it's nothing wrong you just you shouldn't worry about that part
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just you shouldn't worry about that part
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just you shouldn't worry about that part you should ignore that part as long as
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you should ignore that part as long as
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you should ignore that part as long as you're learning and they're helping you
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you're learning and they're helping you
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you're learning and they're helping you um you know that's it's their problem
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um you know that's it's their problem
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um you know that's it's their problem right it's not your problem my view is
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right it's not your problem my view is
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right it's not your problem my view is like if if somebody's arrogant it's not
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like if if somebody's arrogant it's not
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like if if somebody's arrogant it's not your problem right it's affecting you
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your problem right it's affecting you
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your problem right it's affecting you somehow hey wut welcome to the show uh
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somehow hey wut welcome to the show uh
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somehow hey wut welcome to the show uh Sarat welcome to the show after good you
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Sarat welcome to the show after good you
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Sarat welcome to the show after good you know long time see you good to see you
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know long time see you good to see you
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know long time see you good to see you here yeah so we are talking about in
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here yeah so we are talking about in
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here yeah so we are talking about in general software development
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general software development
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general software development carrier um and Community anything you
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carrier um and Community anything you
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carrier um and Community anything you have questions just feel free to chime
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have questions just feel free to chime
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have questions just feel free to chime in um we just general CH chatting here I
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in um we just general CH chatting here I
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in um we just general CH chatting here I have today guest with me is Chris love
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have today guest with me is Chris love
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have today guest with me is Chris love good friend uh we're working together on
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good friend uh we're working together on
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good friend uh we're working together on C Corner and we are building something
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C Corner and we are building something
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C Corner and we are building something amazing for C Corner which will start
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amazing for C Corner which will start
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amazing for C Corner which will start announcing in a you know early Q2 next
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announcing in a you know early Q2 next
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announcing in a you know early Q2 next year um especially for our MVPs and
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year um especially for our MVPs and
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year um especially for our MVPs and bloggers and writers and speakers we are
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bloggers and writers and speakers we are
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bloggers and writers and speakers we are building something amazing so yeah and
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building something amazing so yeah and
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building something amazing so yeah and say
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say
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say says she said uh I think it's a woman
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says she said uh I think it's a woman
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says she said uh I think it's a woman yeah she said that um yeah I know you
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yeah she said that um yeah I know you
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yeah she said that um yeah I know you know I'm sending my resume and most of
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know I'm sending my resume and most of
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know I'm sending my resume and most of them email me we chose someone else and
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them email me we chose someone else and
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them email me we chose someone else and it makes us me upset to continue yeah I
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it makes us me upset to continue yeah I
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it makes us me upset to continue yeah I I hear you I hear you and it is really
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I hear you I hear you and it is really
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I hear you I hear you and it is really sad and upsetting when you get these uh
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sad and upsetting when you get these uh
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sad and upsetting when you get these uh discouraged replies or you know not get
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discouraged replies or you know not get
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discouraged replies or you know not get selected but you have to also think
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selected but you have to also think
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selected but you have to also think right every developer like every
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right every developer like every
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right every developer like every developer who is looking for a job or
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developer who is looking for a job or
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developer who is looking for a job or not looking for it they have to think
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not looking for it they have to think
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not looking for it they have to think like how are you different than others
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like how are you different than others
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like how are you different than others what do you bring to the table that's
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what do you bring to the table that's
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what do you bring to the table that's more than other you know other people to
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more than other you know other people to
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more than other you know other people to me everybody's looking for a different
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me everybody's looking for a different
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me everybody's looking for a different people right so if you looks like
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people right so if you looks like
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people right so if you looks like they're 10 developers and they're on the
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they're 10 developers and they're on the
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they're 10 developers and they're on the same skill level do you have better
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same skill level do you have better
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same skill level do you have better communication skills do you have better
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communication skills do you have better
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communication skills do you have better presentation skills do you have better
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presentation skills do you have better
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presentation skills do you have better leadership skill are you a better
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leadership skill are you a better
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leadership skill are you a better Community person are you helping others
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Community person are you helping others
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Community person are you helping others so you have to think are how are you
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so you have to think are how are you
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so you have to think are how are you different than others so they will
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different than others so they will
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different than others so they will choose you over others that's number one
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choose you over others that's number one
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choose you over others that's number one if you don't have that then you need to
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if you don't have that then you need to
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if you don't have that then you need to figure out how to separate yourself from
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figure out how to separate yourself from
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figure out how to separate yourself from the crowd because once you start doing
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the crowd because once you start doing
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the crowd because once you start doing that you will stand out and it's
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that you will stand out and it's
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that you will stand out and it's everywhere in the world right it's not
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everywhere in the world right it's not
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everywhere in the world right it's not just in software development same thing
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just in software development same thing
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just in software development same thing in the competition Sports everywhere you
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in the competition Sports everywhere you
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in the competition Sports everywhere you go people who stand out they bring more
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go people who stand out they bring more
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go people who stand out they bring more to the table are the one they get
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to the table are the one they get
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to the table are the one they get selected first that's how it is
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selected first that's how it is
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selected first that's how it is hopefully that helps
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hopefully that helps
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hopefully that helps you um so so yeah Sarat welcome again
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you um so so yeah Sarat welcome again
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you um so so yeah Sarat welcome again and yeah says we have to build a good
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and yeah says we have to build a good
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and yeah says we have to build a good mobile app with Maui yeah I think he's
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mobile app with Maui yeah I think he's
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mobile app with Maui yeah I think he's talking about C Corner App yes yeah a
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talking about C Corner App yes yeah a
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talking about C Corner App yes yeah a lot of work has to be done on C Corner
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lot of work has to be done on C Corner
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lot of work has to be done on C Corner platform it just uh we are just behind
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platform it just uh we are just behind
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platform it just uh we are just behind and just so much Legacy code and Legacy
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and just so much Legacy code and Legacy
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and just so much Legacy code and Legacy content so maybe
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content so maybe
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content so maybe um a good point we gota we gotta manage
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um a good point we gota we gotta manage
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um a good point we gota we gotta manage just migrating the data not necessarily
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just migrating the data not necessarily
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just migrating the data not necessarily the code you got to think about it from
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the code you got to think about it from
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the code you got to think about it from that perspective too you know it's yeah
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that perspective too you know it's yeah
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that perspective too you know it's yeah it's G be interesting thing because when
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it's G be interesting thing because when
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it's G be interesting thing because when we get this done we are planning on
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we get this done we are planning on
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we get this done we are planning on talking about the process that we going
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talking about the process that we going
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talking about the process that we going through so I'm trying to so yeah Journal
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through so I'm trying to so yeah Journal
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through so I'm trying to so yeah Journal that if you can if you will so yeah yeah
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that if you can if you will so yeah yeah
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that if you can if you will so yeah yeah yeah so I think there's a lot of our
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yeah so I think there's a lot of our
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yeah so I think there's a lot of our MVPs they want to help uh like Sarat L
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MVPs they want to help uh like Sarat L
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MVPs they want to help uh like Sarat L is always willing to help he's always
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is always willing to help he's always
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is always willing to help he's always willing to help some people are already
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willing to help some people are already
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willing to help some people are already helping in different ways we just need
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helping in different ways we just need
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helping in different ways we just need to figure out how do we manage this
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to figure out how do we manage this
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to figure out how do we manage this process um maybe get some really good
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process um maybe get some really good
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process um maybe get some really good project manager
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project manager
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project manager um because MVPs want like they they like
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um because MVPs want like they they like
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um because MVPs want like they they like to help they have time a little bit here
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to help they have time a little bit here
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to help they have time a little bit here and there um it just matter comes to the
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and there um it just matter comes to the
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and there um it just matter comes to the management so we will figure that out so
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management so we will figure that out so
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management so we will figure that out so that's one in our list um so where we'll
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that's one in our list um so where we'll
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that's one in our list um so where we'll get there this is our like goal is
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get there this is our like goal is
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get there this is our like goal is really trying to figure things out um
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really trying to figure things out um
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really trying to figure things out um and then
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and then
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and then um yeah anything else we want to cover
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um yeah anything else we want to cover
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um yeah anything else we want to cover today anybody has any questions we have
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today anybody has any questions we have
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today anybody has any questions we have almost 928 so we are like we trying to
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almost 928 so we are like we trying to
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almost 928 so we are like we trying to keep these half an hour these shows
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keep these half an hour these shows
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keep these half an hour these shows maybe if you have anything we'll take
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maybe if you have anything we'll take
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maybe if you have anything we'll take one more question um but yeah so Chris
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one more question um but yeah so Chris
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one more question um but yeah so Chris back to our discussions so so guys
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back to our discussions so so guys
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back to our discussions so so guys everybody who's listening this so we
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everybody who's listening this so we
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everybody who's listening this so we have bunch of things coming up but one
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have bunch of things coming up but one
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have bunch of things coming up but one of the things I think Chris you are
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of the things I think Chris you are
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of the things I think Chris you are helping with is the the dakia service in
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helping with is the the dakia service in
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helping with is the the dakia service in dakia you know the postman oh you're
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dakia you know the postman oh you're
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dakia you know the postman oh you're going to mention that okay yeah we we
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going to mention that okay yeah we we
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going to mention that okay yeah we we are building this service and I think
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are building this service and I think
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are building this service and I think one of the first first goal will be to
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one of the first first goal will be to
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one of the first first goal will be to build something for our our MVPs and
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build something for our our MVPs and
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build something for our our MVPs and authors that's kind of our highest
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authors that's kind of our highest
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authors that's kind of our highest priority so we can communicate with them
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priority so we can communicate with them
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priority so we can communicate with them regularly in yeah you want to add a
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regularly in yeah you want to add a
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regularly in yeah you want to add a little bit to
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little bit to
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little bit to that um well I mean what you I don't
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that um well I mean what you I don't
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that um well I mean what you I don't know stop me if I start sharing too much
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know stop me if I start sharing too much
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know stop me if I start sharing too much but no we can just say General why are
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but no we can just say General why are
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but no we can just say General why are we building it what's the purpose and
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we building it what's the purpose and
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we building it what's the purpose and you know yeah that's F I mean first what
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you know yeah that's F I mean first what
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you know yeah that's F I mean first what it is U we're trying to build a
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it is U we're trying to build a
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it is U we're trying to build a essentially a
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essentially a
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essentially a messaging service platform uh for to
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messaging service platform uh for to
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messaging service platform uh for to kind of reside underneath the hood so to
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kind of reside underneath the hood so to
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kind of reside underneath the hood so to speak in on The C Corner platform to
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speak in on The C Corner platform to
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speak in on The C Corner platform to help us manage automated uh
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help us manage automated uh
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help us manage automated uh Communications not just around email but
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Communications not just around email but
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Communications not just around email but I'm just I'm architecting you right now
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I'm just I'm architecting you right now
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I'm just I'm architecting you right now to uh do email push
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to uh do email push
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to uh do email push notifications and possibly SMS although
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notifications and possibly SMS although
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notifications and possibly SMS although I'm not sold on that being a a business
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I'm not sold on that being a a business
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I'm not sold on that being a a business choice for us at the moment just because
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choice for us at the moment just because
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choice for us at the moment just because of the the cost of associated with text
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of the the cost of associated with text
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of the the cost of associated with text messaging but yeah yeah so there's a
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messaging but yeah yeah so there's a
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messaging but yeah yeah so there's a there's a it's going to be interesting
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there's a it's going to be interesting
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there's a it's going to be interesting how we uh build all this out so but we
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how we uh build all this out so but we
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how we uh build all this out so but we want to do it so we make sure that
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want to do it so we make sure that
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want to do it so we make sure that everybody's in the loop with what's
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everybody's in the loop with what's
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everybody's in the loop with what's going on on C Corner knowing what the
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going on on C Corner knowing what the
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going on on C Corner knowing what the important avable for to do on C Corner
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important avable for to do on C Corner
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important avable for to do on C Corner as well you know yeah yeah hey um so
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as well you know yeah yeah hey um so
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as well you know yeah yeah hey um so Sarat yes connect with simless schedule
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Sarat yes connect with simless schedule
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Sarat yes connect with simless schedule you can come in any show you know our
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you can come in any show you know our
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you can come in any show you know our MVPs are always welcome to come with me
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MVPs are always welcome to come with me
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MVPs are always welcome to come with me uh not a problem at all just connect
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uh not a problem at all just connect
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uh not a problem at all just connect with Simon and he can schedule with me I
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with Simon and he can schedule with me I
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with Simon and he can schedule with me I always like to have guests you know talk
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always like to have guests you know talk
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always like to have guests you know talk on different topics different things uh
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on different topics different things uh
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on different topics different things uh we can select with that so I think we
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we can select with that so I think we
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we can select with that so I think we are are out of the time now we right
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are are out of the time now we right
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are are out of the time now we right actually right on time Chris thank you
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actually right on time Chris thank you
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actually right on time Chris thank you for hanging out coming out on short
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for hanging out coming out on short
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for hanging out coming out on short notice uh thank you so much and
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notice uh thank you so much and
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notice uh thank you so much and everybody thank you so much for hanging
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everybody thank you so much for hanging
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everybody thank you so much for hanging out with us this uh Friday and hopefully
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out with us this uh Friday and hopefully
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out with us this uh Friday and hopefully I'll see you again next week but this
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I'll see you again next week but this
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I'll see you again next week but this next week it will be east coast and I
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next week it will be east coast and I
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next week it will be east coast and I think it's going to be cold
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think it's going to be cold
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think it's going to be cold winter is here so everybody have a nice
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winter is here so everybody have a nice
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winter is here so everybody have a nice weekend look that far
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ahead all right thank you all
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ahead all right thank you all
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ahead all right thank you all [Music]