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Man’s Search for Meaning is the inspiring story of Viktor Frankl’s struggle to hold on to hope during his three years as a prisoner in Nazi concentration camps.
This book focuses on survival and finding meaning in the most unusual places, even in a life-threatening environment.
His assertion that “the will to find meaning” is the primary motivation for our existence has forever changed how we think about ourselves. Humanity in the face of suffering.
This week, we're diving into Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning."
Imagine if the most profound psychological insight emerged from the absolute worst of human experiences.
We're unpacking how a Holocaust survivor transformed his traumatic concentration camp experiences into a revolutionary understanding of human purpose, suffering, and the incredible capacity of the human spirit to find meaning in the most impossible circumstances.
Your bad day is not actually the end of the world.
Frankl argues that meaning isn't something that happens to you — it's something you create, even (and especially) when the world is actively trying to destroy you.
We'll explore how finding purpose isn't about avoiding suffering, but about transforming your relationship with suffering itself.
This isn't your standard self-help garbage. This is a profound exploration of how humans create meaning when the world has gone completely insane.
Bring tissues, a deeply honest sense of self, and prepare to have your entire worldview recalibrated.
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Welcome to our Deep dive into Victor
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frankl's Man's Search for meaning oh a
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fantastic choice you know you sent in
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those excerpts from a summary and I got
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to say they were they were pretty
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thought-provoking it just seemed like
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the perfect material to really dig into
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especially you know frankl's whole idea
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about finding purpose even in the the
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toughest situations absolutely it's a
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it's a book that really stays with you
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you know maybe just a quick refresher
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for folks in case um sure Franco was a
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iatrist and he was imprisoned right in
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Nazi concentration camps during World
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War II oh wow and and it was there in
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that experience he developed logo
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therapy okay and and that centers around
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this concept of the will to meaning as
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like a fundamental human drive I'm
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really fascinated by that because you
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know you think about those conditions
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you would imagine like survival would be
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everyone's just absolute top priority
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right but frankl's suggesting it's
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actually it's much deeper than that yeah
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yeah it's a lot more layered yeah yeah
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he argues that our our core motivation
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isn't just about dodging pain or chasing
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pleasure yeah but it's about this this
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deeper search for meaning in life okay
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and he saw this firsthand in the camps
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he identified three ways that people
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found meaning okay I'm listening work
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love and and this is the one that really
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gets you thinking suffering suffering I
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mean how how can anyone even begin to
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find meaning in something that's so yeah
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so incredibly awful it is it is really a
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concept that kind of challenges our
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usual way of thinking about things
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doesn't it yeah ites but Frankle he
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observed that even in the the heart of
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suffering people could discover a sense
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of purpose like a reason to to keep
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going yeah um and he even gives an
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example you know like oh yeah I remember
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this visualizing a reunion with his wife
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right even though they were separated
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during the war yeah that just that
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mental picture that hope for the future
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it's amazing to think that that could
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help someone through that kind of
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presence it's it's a powerful image yeah
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but you know makes you wonder how did he
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balance that hope with the with the the
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brutal reality right yeah because it's
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almost like was he just in denial that
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that's a good question yeah he wasn't
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advocating for this kind of naive
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optimism or ignoring the horrors that
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were happening right of course not he
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recognized the importance of
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acknowledging suffering absolutely but
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he also believed that that even within
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that suffering we can find uh you know
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something to to hold on to you know okay
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a reason to choose life so not
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pretending it wasn't there but but
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seeing like a glimmer like a purpose
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within it yes exactly I I think I'm
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starting to understand I I'm wondering
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though how does how does what he learn
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apply to you know to our Liv to everyday
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life now yeah well that's where that's
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where logotherapy comes in it's not just
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about surviving trauma it's about
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thriving okay it's about you know
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everyday life so logo therapy is that
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where the word like logos comes from it
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is it is logos means meaning in Greek oh
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okay and so it's it's really about
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helping people uncover their own unique
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purpose okay
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so if our goals kind of represent a
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source of meaning as Frankle says how do
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we know when we have goals that maybe
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don't align with our values anymore oh
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that's that's such a such a great point
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I think it's about constantly kind of
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checking in with yourself re-evaluating
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and adjusting right logotherapy
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encourages you to ask like what are the
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things that truly matter to me yeah what
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kind of impact do I want to have on the
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world yeah and are my actions actually
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matching up with those deeper values I
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see so it's not just about achieving any
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goal right it's about going after ones
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that really resonate with with who you
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are precisely and Franco believed that
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this whole process of searching for
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meaning MH it's ongoing
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it's it's not about reaching like a
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final answer okay it's about constantly
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engaging with the question of what gives
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your life purpose okay but I want to go
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back to the the suffering for a minute
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because I I am still kind of grappling
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with how can we actually find meaning
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when things are really hard yeah yeah
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Frankle observed that those who survive
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the camps yeah often had this this
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strong sense of purpose okay it might
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have been a task that they felt called
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to
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to complete a future they envisioned or
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even a a belief system that sustained
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them you know they they found something
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to hold on to even when everything else
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even when all seemed lost exactly he
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shares some pretty specific examples of
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this right he does he does there's this
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incredible story about how Franco lost
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his manuscript in the camp I was just
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thinking about that can you imagine the
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despair oh yeah of losing something so
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precious especially in those especially
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in those conditions but amidst all the
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chaos he he finds a page from a Hebrew
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prayer book wow and it inspires him to
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rewrite his work oh that's that's
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remarkable so even in that moment of
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loss he found like a spark of hope A
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Renewed purpose but I mean isn't that
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just because he was you know so
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extraordinarily resilient that's that's
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what Franco wants us to understand okay
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he doesn't believe that finding meaning
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in suffering is about being super
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okay or or denying the pain it's about
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recognizing that even in the darkest of
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times we we have a choice a choice but I
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mean doesn't that oversimplify things
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when you're facing that kind of
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suffering you don't have a lot of
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options of course of course the
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circumstances could be incredibly
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limiting absolutely yeah but but Franco
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is talking about the power to choose our
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attitude okay our mindset okay we can
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choose to succumb to despair yeah or we
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can choose to search for meaning a
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reason to keep going I see so so even if
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we can't control what's happening around
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us yeah we can control how we how we
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respond how we respond to it exactly
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internally and that choice it can make
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all the difference so he's not saying
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that suffering is good no he's not
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saying that we should go looking for it
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he's saying when it comes we have the
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power to decide how we how we relate to
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it yeah yeah that's a great way to put
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it okay he's not advocating for a life
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of suffering but for a life where
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suffering when it comes can be
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transformed into a source of growth and
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meaning this is all making me think
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about how today yeah there's just so
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much emphasis on happiness mhm like
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positivity right at all costs at all
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costs yeah Frankle seems to be saying
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something totally different he does and
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and I think that's something we should
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we should delve into in our next part
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you know how he challenges This Modern
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obsession with happiness yeah and how
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you know his work can help us build a
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more resilient and meaningful life even
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when things are are far from perfect I'm
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I'm ready for that all right let's do it
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let's do it you were saying how frankl's
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ideas kind of challenge yeah our modern
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obsession with happiness they do don't
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they it's like we're we're constantly
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trying to outsmart Being Human right you
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know Frankle he reminds us that
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suffering it's it's just part of life
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yeah it's not something to be scared of
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or or try to avoid but it's something to
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to really grapp with and it can actually
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be a source of growth that's that's kind
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of a radical idea in our you know Good
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Vibes only culture but but how do we how
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do we square that with like real pain
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hardship that people are going through
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yeah I mean isn't there a danger in in
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minimizing that by saying it can be a
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path to
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meaning you know it's it's a delicate
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balance and and Franco was very clear he
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wasn't romanticizing suffering or saying
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that it's inherently good right of
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course not he he went through
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unimaginable Horrors in the camps yeah
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but he saw that those who found a reason
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to keep going even even like a tiny tiny
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glimmer of perks right they were more
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likely to survive so so it's not about
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pretending it's not there yeah but about
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finding a way to to move through it yeah
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to move through it to to find something
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yeah to transcend it yeah to transcend
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it and find something in it that gives
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you strength exactly it's about you know
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tapping into that will to meaning that
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we talked about before he he believed
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that confronting our struggles rather
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than trying to run from them okay that
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that could be a path to
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meaning what do you what do you think
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about that MH especially
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in it's it's hard to to embrace that you
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know we're we're just conditioned to
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seek Comfort to avoid
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discomfort but I I can see how like
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pushing our elv to to deal with you know
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tough emotions asking those tough
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questions could lead us to a a deeper
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understanding of ourselves and and where
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we fit in the world it's not about
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seeking out suffering of course nobody
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wants to go through pain no but but when
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it comes up as it inevitably does yeah
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we have a choice we can either let it
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consume us or we can use it as an
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opportunity for growth it it makes me
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think of that saying like uh what
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doesn't kill you makes you stronger
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right but Frankle is like taking it a
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step further he is it's not just about
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getting stronger it's about the meaning
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it's finding meaning in the struggle
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itself do you do you think that's always
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possible you know that's a that's a
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really honest question yeah Frankle
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doesn't he doesn't give easy answers
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right or or guarantees you know he's not
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saying we're going to have this like
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huge epiphony in the middle of suffering
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where everything suddenly makes sense
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but he He suggests that even in the the
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darkest places there can be moments of
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light little acts of defiance glimmers
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of Hope and and those can make all the
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difference you mentioned before like the
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people who survive the camps yeah often
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they clung to some kind of purpose they
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did are there are there other examples
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besides the the manuscript story oh yeah
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there are you know many found meaning in
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in small acts of kindness oh okay
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connecting with others even just just
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appreciate a beautiful sunset in the
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midst of of all the ugliness yeah it
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wasn't about these big gestures but just
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these these little yeah those little
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Sparks the little Sparks of light
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exactly and those small acts those
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moments of connection those were their
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acts of resistance yeah you know they
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were reclaiming their Humanity right
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right and that's that's something we can
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all do yeah no matter what our
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circumstances are yeah we can choose to
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focus on those those glimmers of hope
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those moments of beauty MH even when
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we're surrounded by suffering it's a
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powerful reminder that even when we feel
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powerless we still have that power to
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choose how we how we react how we
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respond to what's what's happening but
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you know sometimes those negative
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emotions can just feel absolutely so
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overw it can and and the summary it
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acknowledges that it it talks about how
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difficult it can be to to force
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ourselves to be positive right and how
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sometimes we look for
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for short-term happiness yeah instead of
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that long-term peace what what are your
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thoughts on that I I thought that was
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really interesting because it's so easy
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it is to get caught up in that cycle of
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wanting to feel good all the time so you
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reach for another cookie or you scroll
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social media for hours you know these
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little distractions yeah that's a
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distraction that give you a temporary
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boost but they don't really deal with
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the underlying issues it's the Trap of
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instant
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gratification we live in a world where
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we're constantly bombarded we are with
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messages about seeking pleasure and
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avoiding pain yeah yeah but but Frankle
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he's suggesting that true fulfillment
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comes from something much much deeper so
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so instead of asking myself what will
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make me happy right now I should be
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asking what gives my life meaning yes
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but what if I don't know the answer to
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that well that's that's where his idea
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is about responsibility he he argues
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that we're not just victims of our
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circumstan
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we have the to choose how we respond to
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create meaning in our lives so it's not
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about waiting for it to find us it's
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about actively going after it creating
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it through our choices and actions
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precisely he he even talks about three
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specific areas where people tend to
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choose negativity pain guilt and death
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and and he offers antidotes I remember
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that part of the summary yeah turning
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pain into accomplishment guilt into
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responsibility and loss into a reminder
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of of how precious life is those are
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powerful powerful examples of how we can
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shift our perspective and Find
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meaning even in in those hard moments
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it's not about denying the negative
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emotions but but transforming them yeah
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into something positive something that
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fuels our growth that's a big shift in
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thinking it is instead of being consumed
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by those emotions we can actually use
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them like fuel for our journey yes yes
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finding that opportunity for growth
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within the struggle exactly and and
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that's where we we really start to see
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the power of of logo therapy it's not
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just a bunch of theories it's really a
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framework for for living a more
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intentional and meaningful life
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absolutely I'm I'm starting to see how
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this all connects the the will to
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meaning logo therapy finding purpose and
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suffering it's all connected it's all
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connected it's about recognizing our own
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agency our own power yeah choose meaning
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even in in the most difficult times I
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got it but but how do we actually put
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this into practice how do we go from
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that's the big question yeah from these
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big ideas to concrete actions and and
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that's the heart of it isn't it and
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that's what that's what we'll explore in
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the final part of this deep dive we'll
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we'll look at frankl's practical advice
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okay on how to how to take those big
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ideas and put them into action how to
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really live a more meaningful life day
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by day Okay so we've talking about these
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really really powerful ideas the will to
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meaning logo therapy even finding
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purpose in in suffering but I'm
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wondering how how do we actually put
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this into practice it's one thing to to
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kind of get it in our heads but how do
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we actually live it out right right what
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are some practical steps that we can
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yeah Frankle doesn't just leave us with
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Theory yeah that's good cuz he he gives
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us some really solid advice yeah on on
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how to how to take these ideas and and
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make them actionable okay that's that's
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what I'm looking for give me the the
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actionable steps okay well remember
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those those three paths to meaning that
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we talked about right doing something
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you love experiencing something deeply
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and finding meaning through suffering
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right right he encourages us to figure
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out which of those really really
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resonate for us right now okay it could
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be one it could be all three yeah but
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the the key is to to actively go after
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those things so so if somebody's
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passionate about let's say writing but
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they haven't touched a pen in years
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because you know life got in the way
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Frankle would say yeah make time for it
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make time for it yeah prioritize it okay
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so prioritize those activities even if
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they're you know not huge big things it
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doesn't have to be some Grand thing it
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could be you know spending time in
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nature listening to music having a a
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deep conversation with a friend just
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just make space for those things right
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that really kind of feed your soul yeah
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okay that that makes sense what about
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that second path though the the
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experiencing something or someone deeply
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what does that look like in everyday
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life you know it's about being present
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okay really being there fully engaged in
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in in that moment okay it could be you
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know really savoring a meal losing
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yourself in a in a good book truly
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listening to to someone you care about
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it's about cultivating that sense of
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wonder and uh appreciation for for the
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beauty and and the complexity of life
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even in in the the ordinary the everyday
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stuff yeah that that makes sense to me
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it's about like slowing down paying
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attention soaking it all in yeah but but
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the third path finding meaning and
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suffering I'm I'm still kind of I
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struggling with that one yeah it's it's
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a tough one how do you how do you
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actually do that it it starts with a a
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shift in in how we're seeing things it's
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about about reframing those difficult
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experiences so that they allow us to
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grow to to find the lesson the
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opportunity within the struggle I mean
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that sounds really abstract though can
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you give me like a more concrete example
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okay okay think about a time when you
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went through a a big challenge yeah like
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maybe losing a job a health scare the
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ending of a relationship something like
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that it was probably incredibly painful
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at the time yeah definitely but but
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looking back on it did you learn
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anything from that yeah did it did it
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change you maybe maybe even for the
17:32
better actually yeah I I can think of a
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time um a few years ago I had a a
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project I was leading and it just
17:40
completely fell apart oh wow it was it
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was a huge blow to my confidence but
17:44
looking back I realized that experience
17:46
it it forced me to to develop new skills
17:50
become more resilient learn to to ask
17:53
for help so that's that's a great
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example you you didn't deny the pain but
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you found a way to take meaning from it
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yeah to let it shape you in a in a good
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way yeah yeah okay that's what Frank's
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talking about it's not about about going
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after suffering about finding the
18:10
meaning in the suffering that that comes
18:13
to us it's about recognizing that those
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tough times as painful as they are they
18:18
can be Catalyst for growth right they
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can really push us forward and that
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realization can be like really
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empowering it is it because it means
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even when things are really really hard
18:28
we we still have that power to choose
18:31
our attitude to find meaning to to grow
18:34
from it absolutely all of this I mean
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it's it's inspiring but but it also
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feels like I know you mean a lot of
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responsibility like it's all up to me to
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find meaning in my life you know you're
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right it is it is a responsibility yeah
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but it's also as as Frankle says a
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privilege it means that that we have
18:52
agency we have the power to shape our
18:55
own Destinies right right so we're not
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just passively receiving meaning we're
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actively creating it okay so so what's
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the first step what can I do like today
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to start living a more meaningful life
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you know start by just taking some time
19:10
to reflect on on your values what really
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matters to you what what are you
19:15
passionate about yeah what kind of kind
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of impact do you want to have on the
19:19
world okay that's that's a good starting
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point it is what else what else can I do
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you know look for opportunities to to
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connect with others okay reach out to a
19:28
friend friend volunteer in your
19:30
community or just just start a
19:31
conversation with with somebody new okay
19:34
you know that that human connection is
19:36
is one of the most powerful sources of
19:39
meaning yeah and it can it can really
19:41
bring a sense of purpose even when
19:43
things are tough I I love that and I I'm
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sure you know based on his experiences
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in the camps Frankle would would agree
19:50
any any other advice you'd give practice
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gratitude take a minute each day to just
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to appreciate the good things in your
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life life big or small you know
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gratitude it can really be a powerful
20:03
antidote to negativity and it can it can
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help us to really shift our Focus to to
20:09
what's important this all makes so much
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sense you know it's it's not about
20:13
forcing ourselves to be happy all the
20:15
time it's about finding those things
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yeah finding those sources of meaning
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that that give us meaning that sustain
20:20
us that give us a reason to keep going
20:23
even when when things are tough you got
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it and and frankl's message it's it's
20:28
just as important today as it was you
20:31
know all those years ago right we all
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face challenges yeah we all experience
20:35
suffering we do but we also have the
20:37
capacity to choose meaning to choose
20:40
purpose and to choose a life that is
20:43
that is Rich with both Joy and
20:46
resilience wow this has been such a such
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an insightful Deep dive thank you so
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much oh it's been my pleasure for for
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guiding me through frankl's work I I
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feel like I have a whole new set of
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tools to deal deal with life's ups and
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downs and remember that journey of of
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finding meaning yeah it's it's an
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ongoing thing it's not about about
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reaching some some Final Destination
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right it's about embracing the process
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of of exploring and and questioning and
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growing that's a that's a great reminder
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and to our listeners out there what
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what's one thing that they can take away
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from this from this deep dive that can
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help them on on their own Journey you
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know just remember that you you have
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that power to choose meaning even when
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you're facing suffering start by
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reflecting on your values yeah
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connecting with others and and
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practicing gratitude okay and never give
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up on that search for what makes your
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life truly meaningful thank you so much
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for joining us on this deep dive into
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Man's Search for meaning until next time
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keep searching keep growing and keep
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choosing meaning
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