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any given moment. But I don't think he
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cared about the classification system. I
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don't think he appreciated the
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sensitivity of this information and and
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he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of
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how it was often acquired, the so-called
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sources and methods. So, this had been
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briefed to him before I arrived. It was
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repeated frequently. I think it simply
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had no impact on him whatever. There's a
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couple of different ways that people
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think about this uh and people who are
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not friendly to the president who think
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about what's happened here. And one of
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them is, you know, Donald Trump master
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thief, you know, criminal uh running
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kind of elaborate conspiracy to bring
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things out of the White House and keep
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them secret uh for potentially for
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political or financial gain. There are
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other people who attitude is Trump is
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chaotic. He's careless. He's not that
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smart. He just he wants he took these
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things almost by mistake and now he's
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basically stamping his feet and saying
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they're mine. and I don't want to give
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them up. G give me a sense of where you
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think the truth lies with respect to
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Trump's intelligence, carelessness, and
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the degree to which he might have
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brought motive to bear on taking these
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documents out of the White House and
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keeping them for this long at Mara Lago.
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Well, I I don't I I it's very hard to
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speculate on motive other than that he
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liked cool things. He saw things that he
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so he wanted to take them and he was
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pretty much able to take them uh uh and
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not just on classified information
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matters on all kinds of things that
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crossed his desk. Some days he liked to
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eat a lot of French fries. Some days he
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took classified documents. He wanted
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them. Why did he want them? Because he
