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Okay, let's unpack this. Let's do it. Today we are strapping in for well a
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pretty high stakes ride. Uhhuh. We're connecting the, you know, the super fast pace of venturebacked
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startups with the cold, hard realities of cyber. Yeah, it's a collision course sometimes.
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Our sources for this deep dive are well quite a stack. They really are. We've got everything from detailed
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penetration testing reports, uh, insider guides to VC funding mechanics,
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right? all the way to the really chilling financial fallout from a major data breach and you know what's
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happening with the security workforce itself. So our mission here is to really understand these critical links
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exactly for you the listener maybe you're a founder gunning for that hyperrowth seed round or perhaps you're
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a cso trying to lock down a Fortune 500 company. Either way, either way, you need to internalize this
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idea that ambitious growth, it's fundamentally fragile if it's not underpinned by some foundational cyber
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resilience because the security slip-ups that lead to those multi-million dollar disasters,
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they're often incredibly basic. It's kind of shocking sometimes. It is. And the reason they keep happening, well, it points directly back
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to strategic business decisions about growth, speed, and crucially talent.
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That's the real tension, isn't it? That's what we're digging into. Yeah. We're looking at why, you know, a weak
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password or maybe an unpatched server. The kind of mistake that seems almost trivial when you're in a 100hour coding
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week, totally understandable in the moment, how that can lead directly to that multi-million dollar disaster that just
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wipes out all the hard one traction. Yeah. Years of work gone. So, let's start with the numbers, the
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cold, hard figures that really define this risk landscape and show exactly
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what's at stake. Okay. So, if we look at the definitive cost reports, uh the ones from 2023, the message to any business
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leader is just stark. Stark is a good word. The risk is accelerating. Breaches are
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getting more complex. They're more damaging and definitely more expensive than ever before. The big picture numbers, they're just
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sustained and frankly brutal. The average total cost of a data breach hit
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an all-time high in 2023. We're talking USD $4.45 million.
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Wow. $4.45 million. And that's not some weird one-off spike. It represents a pretty painful 15.3%
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increase just since the 2020 report average, which was $3.86 million.
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So, a steady climb. Yeah, we're seeing this sustained upward trend. It reflects, you know, both the increasing complexity of cleaning up the
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mess and the growing regulatory cost of getting it wrong. And when you drill down into the sort of the granular
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details, you really see why that average is so high, right? The per record cost of compromised data also hit a new high.
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It's averaging $165 per record. Per record. But, and this is key, this is heavily
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influenced by what kind of data gets lost. If you lose, say, generic non-sensitive stuff, the cost might be lower. But the second customer personal
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identifiable information, PII, gets involved. Oh, yeah. The financial penalty just skyrockets. DII is the absolute costliest category.
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It comes in at $183 per record. Employee PII is right behind it at $181 per
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record. That difference is significant. It means losing that highly regulated customer
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data carries a just a disproportionate financial risk compared to say losing
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some internal IP. Yeah. reflects the high cost of, you know, mandatory notifications, offering
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credit monitoring services, and then all the lawsuits and regulatory fines that inevitably follow.
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Exactly. Right. So, think about it. For a scaling company, maybe one with a rapidly growing customer base, if you
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lose 50,000 records of customer PII, okay, you are immediately looking at over $9
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million in direct cost just related to that data type. 9 million which puts you way over like double the
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average cost of a breach we just talked about. Wow. That staggering calculation is precisely why data categorization protection
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strategies they have to be foundational like day one stuff. Okay. So let's say the worst happened the incident is active. What can an
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organization actually control at that point to you know lessen the damage? Does speed really move the needle when
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you're already in crisis mode? Speed is maybe the single most critical actionable variable. It really is. Okay.
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The data shows a massive financial difference depending on how quickly a breach is identified and then contained.
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How massive? Well, breaches resolved in less than 200 days cost on average $3.93 million.
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Still a lot, but okay. But if that breach life cycle drags on beyond 200 days, the cost sheets up by
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over a million to $4.95 million. A million dollar difference just based
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on time. Yeah, that's a 23% increase in cost driven purely by delay. And here's the kicker. Uh oh.
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The average life cycle for a breach is 277 days. Oh wow. So longer than that 200 day
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mark. Way longer. So most organizations are already costing themselves that extra million dollars simply because their
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security operations, their incident response procedures, they're just too slow. They're reacting, not proactively
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responding. Exactly. And the problem gets worse when you look at how the organization finds out about the brute in the first place.
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How do they usually find out? Well, only about onethird of incidents were actually discovered by the
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organization's own internal security teams or their tools. Only a third. So, twothirds of the time.
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Twothirds of the time the company is reactive. They're finding out from external third parties or even worse,
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the attackers themselves. Ouch. And finding out from the attacker like getting that ransomware note,
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demanding payment, and threatening to leak data. That must be the worst case scenario financially. It carries the
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absolute steepest penalty. Reaches disclosed by the attacker cost significantly more, averaging 5.23
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million. 5.23 million. That's nearly a million dollars more
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than incidents found internally which average $4.30 million. Wow. And these attacker disclosed incidents,
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they also take the longest to contain. We're talking an average of 320 days. So when the attacker controls the story,
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the disclosure timeline, the victim just loses control over everything, including the financial bleeding
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pretty much. And this risk profile, it's especially pronounced in what we call critical infrastructure industries.
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Okay. Like what? That category includes things like financial services, technology, energy sectors,
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right? The big ones. Yeah. Because of the high systemic risk, the intense regulatory scrutiny, the
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complexity of their systems, data breaches for these critical infrastructure organizations exceeded $5
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million on average. They came in at $5.04 million,
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which is what, like $1.26 million higher than other industries. Exactly. $1.26 million higher.
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That context is so important, especially when we think about smaller scaling companies. Maybe they're supplying
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services to this critical infrastructure sector. Yeah, the downstream risk. And our sources show that companies with
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fewer than 500 employees, they're seeing their average breach costs rise a really painful 13.4% to $3.31 million.
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3.3 million for a small company. For a small organization that maybe just took on some seed funding, that $3.31
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million is often just catastrophic. It's a company ending event. Yeah. For a small business, $3.31
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million isn't just a high cost. Very often means bankruptcy. plain and simple, it really shows that even if they're
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only handling a tiny fraction of the data compared to a Fortune 500 company, the relative risk exposure is just way
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greater. It is. And this whole financial reality, it confirms exactly why security
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leaders, CISOs, they need reliable resources. They need strategic guidance, clear visibility into best practices
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right from the beginning. Absolutely. Which is why we're really thankful for the support of our sponsors who are dedicated to supporting security
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leaders navigating this incredibly complex environment. www.sisomarketplace.com
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and also www.sisomarketplace.services. Yeah, it's clear that without reliable
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resources for CISOs and their teams, the odds are just stacked against timely detection and containment.
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Okay, so let's pivot now. We've seen the cost of failure. Let's talk about the intense pressure of high growth that
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often leads companies to frankly ignore this necessary foundation. Right? So when we look at the startup
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world, especially in that high-tech, high growth space, the entire operational focus is just relentless.
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It's feature velocity, market penetration, scale, scale, scale, get big fast, get big fast. And this imperative often
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clashes directly with the, you know, the more cautious, deliberative mindset you need for robust cyber security.
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Let's start right at the beginning of that, the preede phase. Okay, this stage is all about being scrappy, growing fast, proving an idea is even
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viable, right? Initial funding sources, they're usually bootstrapping, maybe some angel investors, friends, family, other
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entrepreneurs kicking in. Yeah, the friends, family, and fools round sometimes. Yeah, the money is used strictly for
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just basic operations, maybe setting up a rudimentary accounting system, creating that proof of concept.
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And legally, what's the advice there? Well, the sources generally advise founders to structure as CC core pretty
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early on. CC Corp. Okay. Why? It's not really about immediate taxes. It's mostly about maximizing flexibility
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for future fundraising from institutional investors like VCs. They almost exclusively prefer to invest in
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ccore. Gotcha. So, it sets you up for later rounds. Exactly. The main goal here is just minimizing how much equity you give away
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initially while you're proving the market actually wants your thing. And there's a key financing tool often used
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here, right? The safe note. Ah, yes. The safe note. Simple agreement for future equity.
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It's popular because it kind of kicks the can down the road on the difficult conversation about valuation until a
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later bigger funding round. Let's the founder focus on building, right? But there's a real sort of
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technical warning flag with these notes. Founders have to use safe notes pretty cautiously because they often introduce
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something called a valuation cap. Valuation cap. Yeah. What does that do? Well, if the company does way better
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than expected between getting that Safe Note money and raising its series A round, right, that cap limits how much the early
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investors valuation actually increases. So, this decision made when the company is maybe barely an idea can actually
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limit future fundraising options and create complexity that VCs will definitely scrutinize later on. Interesting. Okay. So, the company
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survives preede. They develop a minimum viable product, an MVP. Yeah. That shows some early positive signals
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in the market that signals they're ready for the seed round. Yeah, that's generally the trigger. This is the first time that formal venture
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capital firms, often those specialized seed funds really start paying close
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attention. Though, you know, crowdfunding is also an option here, too. But there's a huge pitfall highlighted
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in our sources here. Something described as almost always fatal by veteran
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founders. Yeah, this one's critical. Taking seed money before achieving genuine product market fit.
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Why is that so bad? Because investors expect that seed funding is going to accelerate a model
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that's already showing signs of working, not fund the search for a working model.
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Ah, okay. If you take that money and then spend the next 18 months just floundering trying to figure out what sticks, the pressure to produce results
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becomes so intense that security is inevitably the first thing that gets cut or delayed indefinitely.
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So that seed round milestone, it forces a pretty significant shift in corporate maturity then. Absolutely. Because now VCs are
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performing serious due diligence. The startup needs like a good attorney. They need errors and emissions insurance.
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You know, yeah. And crucially establish books and accounting systems. They need to
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demonstrate a clear track record of operational and financial health. The informal winging it phase is definitely
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over. Okay, this brings us to the core of it, right? The venture capital mindset. This is the engine driving that speed over
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security trade-off we talked about. Exactly. And here's where it gets really interesting. Way out on us.
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VCs are fundamentally not interested in creating a nice small profitable
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business. That's not the goal. No lifestyle businesses for them. Nope. They are looking exclusively for
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the moonshot, the outlier, the home run. So, let's say you're running a bootstrap software business. You're pulling in
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consistently maybe $10,000 in monthly recurring revenue. MR sounds pretty
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good, right? You're a bootstrapper. Fantastic. But to a VC, that proves basically nothing. Why not?
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That success is too incremental. The question VCs ask isn't is this operationally efficient or profitable
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today. It's can this company realistically hit at least $und00 million in annual recurring revenue ARR
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hundred million ARR and eventually achieve you know a multi-billion dollar valuation can it
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become a unicorn right the whole VC model is built on betting on these extreme outliers because they
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know going in that nine out of 10 of their investments will probably fail or return very little.
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So they need that one huge win to cover all the losses. Exactly. They view the money they inject
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not really as capital for measured steady growth, but more as a mechanism for survival.
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Survival. Yeah. To become default alive, as they sometimes say, to have enough cash to
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survive while the company aggressively chases that big vision moonshot. And that big vision. Yeah. Big vision demands speed, rapid
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deployment, often involves complex, quickly evolving technology that might not even be monetized right away. So
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this intense pressure to just scale scale scale means founders often deliberately choose feature velocity
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over fixing technical debt makes perfect sense from their perspective. Sometimes they push code out that they know contains vulnerabilities because the
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perceived cost of fixing it now means delaying a critical market opportunity or maybe missing a key fundraising
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milestone. The business imperative to scale just overrides the security imperative to slow down and make things secure. And
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that creates the absolute perfect environment for those simple preventable technical failures we're about to look
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at next. Right. So, we've established the frankly staggering cost of failure and the
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intense pressure to grow that just makes the risk worse. Yep. Now, let's look at the actual labors
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organizations can pull to try and mitigate those costs. And then let's examine the fundamental technical flaws
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that keep showing up in the real world. Okay, let's start with the positive. the strategic cost mitigators.
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The sources actually quantify the financial benefits of having strong security practices, right? Showing that
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certain investments can claw back millions in potential losses. They do and the figures are pretty compelling. The largest measurable cost
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difference was tied to how deeply an organization adopted a dev sec ops approach. Devsecops shifting security left.
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Exactly. It showed a staggering $1.68 68 million difference in breach costs between companies with high level
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adoption versus low-level adoption. Wow. Nearly $1.7 million in savings just
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by integrating security checks earlier in the development pipeline. Incredible, isn't it? Yeah. And it's not just about tools,
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right? It's about having a process. Absolutely. Strong incident response or IR planning combined with regular
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testing of that plan that delivered a massive $1.49 million difference in cost
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mitigation. So, planning and practicing actually pays off big time. Huge payoff. And maybe most
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surprisingly, even something as seemingly basic as dedicated employee training,
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security awareness training. Yep. That accounted for a $ 1.5 million difference. It really shows that the
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technical fixes, the preparation, and the human awareness element are all equally vital pieces of the puzzle.
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Okay. So, planning, training, dev sec ops, what else moves the needle? Well, we
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cannot overlook the sheer power of modern technology, specifically in addressing that speed problem we
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identified earlier. Remember the 277day average life cycle? Yeah. And the extra million dollar cost
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for going over 200 days, right? Organizations that made extensive use of security, AI, and automation saw
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$1.76 million in cost savings compared to those who used none.
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$1.76 million from AI and automation. How? Crucially, that automation delivered its value by accelerating the
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breach life cycle by over a 100 days. Over 100 days faster. Yeah. That speed translates directly
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into saving that $ 1.02 million penalty for slow containment we talked about. So if the average breach takes 277 days
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and automation can shave off more than a hundred of those, that really is the difference between catastrophe and well
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manageable mitigation. It absolutely is. That ability to rapidly triage, contain, and analyze an incident is just
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invaluable in those critical moments right after an attack hits. These insights really underscore the need for smart automated tools for
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security professionals, especially since we know they're often manually drowning in thousands of alerts a day. Totally. Which is why we appreciate the
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support of sponsors like www.microsec.tools, which helps organizations integrate
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these necessary efficiencies and hopefully reduce some of that crippling alert volume for the analysts. Okay,
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good stuff. Now, let's transition from the macro strategy to the microlevel failures. Let's use those specific
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anonymous case studies from the penetration test report you mentioned. Right. These are the kinds of
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preventable errors that when you combine them with rapid growth and maybe poor management lead directly to those
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multi-million dollar breaches. Okay. Case study number one, the system charmingly named Lazy Sadman.
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Yeah. Yeah. This one is a perfect illustration of how just sheer simplicity leads to total compromise.
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I'd have to get in. Full admin access was gained initially by exploiting weak or even non-existent credentials on an SMB server. Basic
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stuff. Okay. But the moment of complete security collapse, the real face Paul moment came
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from finding plain text credentials literally password 1 2 3 4 5 Ness
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exposed in a file named deets.txt just sitting right there on the web server route. Oh my god. deets.txt.
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Deets.txt. Yeah, it's astonishing, right? This isn't some complex zeroday exploit. This is a catastrophic failure of basic
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operational hygiene and change control. Unbelievable. And the resulting fix needed was well,
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excruciatingly simple. Remove null or guest authentication from the SMB server. Immediately delete that
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deets.txt file. Please delete the deets.txt file and revoke full pseudo access from the
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user named Teddogi who armed with password 1 2 3 4 5 was easily able to escalate to root privileges. This case
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just perfectly shows that the $4.45 million average breach often starts with something laughably cheap and easy to
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fix. If only someone had looked. If only. Okay, next case. Lemon squeezy.
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Lemon squeezy. Okay, this one demonstrates the compounding disaster that happens when rapid feature
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development leads to a massive buildup of technical debt. How did this one start? Initial access was gained via brute
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forcing weak credentials. Again, weak credentials, this time using the enabled XML RPC interface on an outdated
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WordPress instance, specifically version 4.8.9. WordPress 4.8.9. Isn't that ancient?
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Practically fossilized. It hasn't been supported for years and years, right? Relying on this kind of unpatched, obsolete software is a direct
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consequence of that startup environment prioritizing new features over basic maintenance. So, they got in through WordPress. Then
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what? It was a chain reaction. Once inside, the attacker found another set of weak credentials hidden in a draft blog post.
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Seriously, another process failure. Yep. Which then allowed them to access
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PHP MyAdmin where they were able to write a web shell onto the server. Okay, so webshell means they have code
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execution. Pretty much game over at that point. But there was a final insult. What was that? Privilege escalation. Getting root
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access. This was achieved by exploiting a known vulnerable Linux kernel,
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specifically CVE 201716995.
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A known kernel vulnerability from 2017. Yes. So you see the cascade. Yeah. Vulnerable system leads to credential
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exposure which leads to arbitrary code execution which leads to total root compromise via an unpatched kernel from
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years ago. It's just a perfect storm of technical neglect compounded by a failure to patch basic critical flaws.
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Exactly. Okay. Third case, the Mercy system. Mercy sounds ominous. This one is a masterclass in
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configuration failure. Access started yet again with incredibly weak credentials. This time the user que with
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the password on an SMB server. Password. Mhm. Okay. But that initial trivial access exposed
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something interesting. A port knocking configuration file. Port knocking. That's kind of old
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school. It is. But when the attacker successfully executed the sequence described in the file, it opened up SSH
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and also a new HTTP server on port 80 that wasn't open before.
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Wow. So they use the configuration documentation that was meant to secure the system to actually bypass the
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security controls. Precisely clever, but also points to a fragile setup. What do they do next? The attacker then
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found a local file inclusion vulnerability, an LFI, some software called RIPS running on that new web
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server that just opened up. OFI, this is another classic web vulnerability. Allows reading local files, right? It's a basic input validation
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failure, super common in rapid development environments using older frameworks. This LFI allowed them to
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read the Tomcat users configuration file. Okay. And what was in there? Application manager credentials.
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Ah, game over again. Pretty much with those application credentials, they could upload a malicious war file, get a
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shell. But even that wasn't the final step to root access. There's more. One more step. Final privilege
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escalation came from a file misconfiguration. A script running as the root user.
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Okay. Was inexplicably writable by a lowprivilege user named Fluffy.
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Fluffy. A user named Fluffy could write to a root script. I kid you not, Fluffy. This allowed the
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attacker running as Fluffy to just inject arbitrary code into that root run script, achieving a root shell.
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Well, these three examples just hammer it home. Multi-million dollar costs are so frequently triggered by these
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preventable basic failures rooted in poor security policies, weak access controls, and just chronic patching
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failures. The deep irony here listening to those examples is that every single technical flaw we just discussed,
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patching that kernel, implementing strong credentials, cleaning up a damn deets.txt txt file correcting the
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permissions on a script owned by Fluffy. Basic blocking and tackling. Exactly. It's the core job function of a
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security professional. Yet, when we look at the state of the cyber security workforce, we see this
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massive strategy gap that seems to prevent enterprises from actually fixing these fundamental issues.
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This really is the crux of the whole problem. I think we talk about a severe talent crisis, but the source material
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strongly suggests it's largely self-inflicted by the hiring organizations themselves,
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especially the Fortune 100 companies, the ones holding the most sensitive data. So, where does it start?
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Let's start with what the report calls the remote paradox. The remote paradox. Okay. The demand for highly skilled security
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professionals is absolutely immense. Everyone agrees on that. Yet only 8% 8%
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of enterprise cyber security roles currently offer remote work. Only 8% in security. That seems crazy
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low post pandemic. It is. And this policy is actively demonstrabably limiting the talent pool
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for often no good defensible reason. And do candidates actually want remote roles? The preference is undeniable. Our data
23:33
shows that 43% of those few remote job listings attracted over a 100 applicants each. Huge interest. Okay, so demand is
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there from candidates. Massive demand, but now look at the time to fill metric. On-site only positions
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are taking nearly three times longer to fill than remote or even hybrid roles. Three times longer.
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So by demanding unnecessary physical presence, companies are strategically handicapping themselves in the war for
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talent. They're ensuring that critical positions stay open longer and the backlog of essential fixes like patching
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those ancient kernels just keeps growing. So inflexibility is hurting them. What else? This inflexibility is compounded by what
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we're calling cyber strain. The profound burnout that's impacting the workforce. Uh burnout. Yeah, we hear a lot about
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that in SOC's. SOC analysts are just drowning. They're manually triaging alert volumes that in
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some reports reach over 11,000 alerts per day per analyst. 11,000 alerts a day. How is that even
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possible to manage? It's not. To put that in perspective, 11,000 alerts means an analyst has less than 20 seconds to review, investigate,
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and triage each potential threat, assuming they work 24/7. It's physically impossible.
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Yeah, no wonder they're overwhelmed. More than half of analysts report feeling overwhelmed. And this vicious
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cycle creates this category the report calls tired rock stars. Tired rock stars.
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Yeah. 59% of highly engaged, top performing security professionals are experiencing severe exhaustion and are
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at high risk of just leaving the industry entirely. Wow. Losing almost 60% of your best
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people to burnout. And yet, when enterprises post these incredibly demanding, high strain jobs,
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they show a stunning disregard for the root cause of why people are leaving. How so? Only 10% of cyber security job listings
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even mention mental health or burnout support programs. Only 10%. Compare that to 70% of the same listings that mention basic health
25:27
insurance. So, they acknowledge physical health, but ignore the mental and operational strain that's driving people away.
25:34
Exactly. Enterprises seem focused on treating the symptoms like turnover rather than addressing the
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self-inflicted crisis causing the burnout in the first place. Okay. So, inflexibility, burnout.
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What about pay? Is that a factor? This lack of strategic investment in employee well-being is mirrored
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perfectly by a lack of investment in compensation. And yes, it actively drives top talent away to adjacent
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fields. The compensation gap is undeniable. How big is the gap? Cyber security roles in Fortune 100
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companies average around $152,700 annually. Okay. But adjacent roles that need very
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similar technical skills. Think IT security, dev sec ops, they average $160,800.
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And the emerging field of observability averages $165,400.
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So that's a difference of what? $8,000 to over $12,000 in average salary right there.
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Minimum difference. And that doesn't even touch long-term incentives like stock options or equity. Equity. How does that compare?
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Only 4% of those cyber security job postings mentioned equity compensation. Compare that to 15% for observability
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roles. 15% versus 4%. That's a huge difference in potential upside. Massive. So think about it from the
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candidates's perspective. observability roles which often deal with performance monitoring, data ingestion. They offer
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better base pay, significantly more equity potential, and often less acute life or death stress than say incident
26:58
response. So top talent is just choosing the field that offers better pay, better quality of life, and better long-term wealth
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creation potential. It's rational, isn't it? The observability field is attracting people partly because its goals often seem more
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clearly aligned with business continuity and performance metrics. Their contribution feels less like a pure cost
27:17
center and more like a revenue enabler compared to traditional security roles. Okay. So this lack of support for the
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rank and file connects upwards right to maturity issues at the leadership level. The strategy gap starts at the top.
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It absolutely does. Our sources reveal that 19% almost one in five of Fortune 500 companies, 94 major corporations
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still do not have a dedicated CISO, chief information security officer. Still in 2023,
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still in many of these firms, the CIO, the chief information officer takes on the combined CIO role.
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And security experts don't like that setup. They heavily criticize it. Yeah. Because it creates an inherent and often
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insurmountable conflict of interest. How so? The CIO's primary mandate is driving IT
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delivery, getting projects done on time, maximizing budget efficiency for IT operations.
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Okay. So, when the security side demands, say, a multi-million dollar investment in a
28:12
new alert triage platform like that AI automation we just discussed that saves $1.76 million in the long run,
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right? The CIO who might be focused on a massive ERP system migration may just
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sideline that security request because it competes for budget and resources with their primary IT goals.
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So the CIO is effectively the fox watching the hen house as the saying goes.
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That's the argument. Their primary agenda for operational efficiency often competes directly with the needs of
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robust, often budget intensive security and risk management. This structure almost guarantees that security is
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perpetually viewed as a technical cost center, not as a critical business enabling function. And there's one final piece to this
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leadership puzzle, right? A gap related to AI. Yeah, this one is really telling. There's a massive critical gap in
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leadership competency regarding the very tools AI and automation that are proven
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to help solve the burnout problem and save money. What's the gap? We saw that AI and automation deliver
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huge cost savings. They accelerate containment by over a 100 days. It's clearly important, right?
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While 46% of rank and file hands-on cyber security roles now mention needing AI experience, 0% zero of director level
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or higher leadership jobs require it. 0% of leadership roles require AI experience while almost half the
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practitioner roles do. Exactly. That disparity is just a profound strategic failure. The people
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responsible for setting the security strategy, allocating those multi-million dollar budgets, approving the large-scale technology investments, they
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lack the foundational knowledge of the key technology they are supposed to be leveraging to reduce alert volume,
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combat analyst burnout, and achieve those potential $1.76 million cost savings.
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Wow. So, it's a management failure to keep pace with the technical demands and opportunities of the current risk landscape. #howtr.
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So, yeah, we have covered a huge amount of ground today. We've analyzed the intense pressure high growth companies
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are under and the absolutely devastating financial consequences when security fails. We really have. We've seen that the
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average cost of data breach is at an all-time high, over $4.45 million.
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And that speed of detection, often supercharged by automation, is just critical to mitigating that cost. And we
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saw how the pressure of chasing that $1 billion moonshot pushes scaling companies to prioritize feature velocity
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over those foundational security measures, right? And critically the resulting technical failures. I mean, from plain
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text passwords in deets.txt to ancient unpatched kernels and trivial misconfigurations like a script named
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Fluffy having root permissions. Never forget Fluffy. Never forget Fluffy. They revealed that these multi-million dollar costs are so
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frequently triggered by basic preventable errors, errors that shouldn't be happening.
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And the core issue, the connection we wanted to draw is that the talent crisis, which is driven by low relative compensation, high cyber strain,
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inflexibility about remote work, and often poor leadership structure. That crisis directly prevents
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enterprises from hiring and retaining the professionals they need to fix those foundational security issues in the
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first place. So the organization fails to support its people which results in persistent basic and
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increasingly expensive technical vulnerabilities. It's a vicious cycle. Okay. So what does this all mean for you
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listening right now? Whether you're trying to secure a startup or leading security at a large enterprise. Here is
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the final provocative thought we want to leave you with today. Go for it. The perceived cyber security talent
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shortage. It isn't really a lack of available people or skills out there in the world.
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It is fundamentally a profound strategic and largely self-inflicted failure of
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organizational management. That's a strong statement, but I think the data backs it up. Enterprises are
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failing to align compensation things like long-term incentives, equity, and just basic quality of life factors,
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specifically addressing cyber strain and inflexible work models. They're failing to align those with the truly
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missionritical value that these security professionals deliver every single day. And the consequence
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if you don't support your people, if you don't value them appropriately, they will inevitably leave. They'll go to
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adjacent fields like observability or dev sec ops that offer better pay, healthier work environments, and frankly
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more respect, leaving your organization fundamentally vulnerable to those basic, expensive,
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and entirely preventable errors like password 1 2 3 4 5 in deeds.txt.
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Exactly. Solving a technical challenge really begins with solving the talent challenge. It's about people and strategy first.
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A perfect note to end on. A huge thank you to our listeners for joining this deep dive. Yeah, thanks everyone.
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And we want to thank our sponsors one last time for supporting our exploration of these critical challenges. www.comoarketplace.com,
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www.cedtoarketplace.services, and www.microssec.tools.
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Their support is invaluable. Absolutely. We'll see you on the next deep dive.