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Welcome to the deep dive. Today we're uh
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really cutting straight to the core of a
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massive global challenge. We're talking
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about the huge shortfall in IT and cyber
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security talent and maybe even more
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surprisingly the kind of deep-seated
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psychological blockers that are stopping
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leaders especially in middle management
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from really adapting.
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Yeah, it's definitely more than just you
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know needing a few more coders. We've
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been digging into several highlevel
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reports and what they show is this
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fundamental disconnect. It's structural.
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How so? Well, technology, things like
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AI, IoT, sophisticated hacking
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techniques, it's just moving so much
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faster than our ability to lead and
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manage it. It's faster than we can even
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structure the workforce for this new
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If leadership doesn't catch up, frankly,
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organizations stay incredibly
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right? So, our mission today is to
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synthesize all this. We'll look at the
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staggering demand figures, pinpoint the
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skills that are suddenly critical, you
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know, going from zero to hero almost
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overnight. And we want to get under the
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hood of what one source calls the frozen
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middle, that management layer that seems
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to put the brakes on digital
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And look, getting good specialized info
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and solutions in this space is tough,
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support of www.zoomarketplace.com
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for making this deep dive possible.
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Okay, so let's start digging in. Just
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how big is this gap? The difference
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between the cyber security pros needed
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and the ones we actually have. Uh the
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skill is well it's almost hard to grasp.
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We looked at Microsoft's analysis. They
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estimate that by 2025 globally there'll
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be 3.5 million open cyber security
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That's three and a half million.
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Yeah. Millions of jobs designed to
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protect the absolute bedrock of global
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business. Just empty, unfilled.
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It's a staggering vulnerability. What
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about specific regions? Like what does
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it look like in a major tech hub? Say
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right? Zooming in makes it even clearer.
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Sources show India's demand for cyber
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folks has jumped by about 51% just
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recently. Yeah. Now they have a decent
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workforce, maybe 135,000 people
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currently. Yeah. But even so, they need
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another 68,000 professionals immediately
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just to meet today's needs. Shows that
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demand is just outstripping supply
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Wow. And the stakes here are, as you
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said, incredibly high. Cyber isn't just
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IT support, right? We're talking data
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integrity, availability,
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Precisely. It's about defending against
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really complex threats. crippling
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ransomware that halts production lines,
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sophisticated insider threats, you name
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it. It demands smart solutions, sure,
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but first and foremost, it needs
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skilled, strategic people, people who
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understand the evolving game.
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Okay, so that leads to maybe the most
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fascinating part. It's not just needing
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more bodies. It's needing people with
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fundamentally different skills. What's
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surging? What wasn't even on the radar a
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The shift is dramatic. It's all moving
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toward advanced data skills and dealing
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with complex interconnected systems. If
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you look at the projections for the next
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5 years, I mean take artificial
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intelligence, it's expected prominence
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in cyber security roles. 56%.
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56 compared to what now?
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Compared to basically 0% right now. It's
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a complete rewriting of the required
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That's that's a huge jump. So what does
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that mean? If you're trying to hire
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someone, you can't just look for the old
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network security basics anymore.
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Absolutely not. Companies need deep
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analytical capabilities. Now look at
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data forensics. It's projected to jump
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from about 17% prominence today to 44%
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expected prominence. Even very technical
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niche areas like hacking wireless
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networks that's expected to hit 28%
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Up from almost nothing.
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Interesting. It feels like a move away
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from just building walls like defensive
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IT towards more proactive almost
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offensive analysis understanding the
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attacker. It absolutely is. And that's
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creating whole new job titles that are
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in high demand. We're seeing predictions
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for huge growth in roles like DevSec Ops
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embedding security right into
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Exactly. And IoT engineers, analysts
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focused on IoT security and crucially
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analysts for operations technology, the
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systems that run industrial plants and
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Okay. But developing these complex
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skills, uh, understanding things like
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the latest TTPs, the tactics,
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techniques, and procedures attackers
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use, or complex frameworks like PCIDSS
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for payments or the CIS controls. That
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takes more than just a weekend course,
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right? It needs formal validation.
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And that's where we hit a major snag in
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the pipeline, the certification gap. The
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data we reviewed shows that a staggering
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75% of students coming out of cyber
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skilling programs haven't enrolled in or
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finished a relevant highlevel
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certification think COSSP cryc the big
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75% that's huge why is it cost time do
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companies not see the value
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it seems systemic the training might be
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there but that final critical step the
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validation the company investing time
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and sponsorship for people to get these
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tougherts it's often missing so you end
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up with a lot of people with some
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knowledge but lacking that certified
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provable expertise needed for complex
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enterprise level security
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which is exactly why businesses need
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reliable resources. Finding people with
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that validated expertise navigating the
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tools and solutions for this skills gap.
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It's critical and that's why platforms
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connecting businesses with vetted
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Okay, so let's pivot a bit. Let's say
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you do manage to hire or upskill the
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right talent. There's another barrier.
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Leadership. Digital transformation often
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gets stuck because of what the research
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calls the frozen middle mindset. Middle
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managers just aren't equipped to lead
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it's a powerful image. Suggests inertia,
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right? And their role is changing
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massively. They're not just supervisors
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anymore, especially with AI automating
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tasks. They need to be coaches, talent
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developers, connectors.
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Precisely. They need to lead change. But
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when researchers analyze their
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managerial mindsets using frameworks
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like minsburgs, the data showed this
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huge imbalance. Middle managers
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overwhelmingly favor what's called
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change or action orientation. In one
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study, it accounted for something like
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289 recorded responses. They are wired
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So action orientation, what does that
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look like day-to-day? It sounds like uh
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Daniel Conorman's system one thinking,
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fast, intuitive, reactive,
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just get the task done.
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Exactly that. It's geared towards quick
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task completion. And honestly, that
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worked fine in the old IT model, which
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was often about volume. How many tickets
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did you close? How many servers did you
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But the new world demands complex
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strategic work, the kind needed for AI
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analysis or deep forensic investigation
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the system two thinking, deliberative,
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analytical, slow strategic thought.
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System one fixes the immediate known
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problem. system 2 stops and asks, "Wait,
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why does this problem keep happening? Is
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it a symptom of something deeper?"
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And if managers are stuck on that system
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one action autopilot, they literally
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don't have the bandwidth for that kind
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of reflection, do they?
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That's the core issue. The data backs
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this up starkly when they look for
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evidence of other crucial mindsets.
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Well, the reflective mindset only got 34
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responses in that same experiment.
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Only 34 compared to 289 for action,
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right? And the analytical mindset even
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lower. Just 18 responses. The focus is
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purely on execution, on speed. How do we
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get this done fast, not on the broader
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And that must directly impact how they
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manage the very talent they need,
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doesn't it? If you've got, say, an AI
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specialist who needs a couple of quiet
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days to really analyze a complex data
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A manager stuck in action mode might
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just see that as unproductive downtime.
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They don't value the slow, deep work.
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This bias actively prevents them from
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creating the environment needed to
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attract, retain, and effectively manage
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that high-level reflective talent. It's
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a mismatch. And this lack of, let's call
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it, well-rounded thinking, it shows up
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elsewhere, too. First, these managers
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often lean heavily on the organization
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for their own growth. And when faced
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with disruption, their go-to is almost
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always technology. They frame the
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problem and the solution purely in
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technical terms. Ah, so they see the
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tool, the software, the system, but they
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miss the people part, the human context.
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Exactly. They overlook the crucial
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emotional side of change, the fear, the
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resistance, the internal politics
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involved in adopting radically new ways
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of working. They treat transformation
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like a software rollout, not a deep
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psychological and cultural shift.
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And layered on top of this, the sources
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also highlighted some unique challenges,
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especially for women in management
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Yes, that came through quite clearly.
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Women managers often carry a heavier
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load of what's sometimes called
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invisible work. Things like primary
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responsibility for child care or elder
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care. There's a strong feeling among
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many that the professional world is
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still fundamentally designed mainly with
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male workers in mind. And the fact that
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concerns about workplace environment and
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flexibility came up mostly from women
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managers. Well, it points to a real gap
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in organizational support reinforcing
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those psychological barriers, that glass
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ceiling effect. So putting it all
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together, the path forward isn't just
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technical training. It sounds like we
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need a profound shift in management
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itself. Managers need more than tech
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skills. They need emotional quotient EQ
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to handle the human side of disruption.
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They need the time and the permission to
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step back, reflect, analyze, think
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It's a move from just ensuring
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compliance to fostering genuine
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responsibility. and maybe moving away
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from thinking about growth only as
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climbing the hierarchy towards growth
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driven by impact and purpose.
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yeah, the data really paints a clear
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picture. Solving this global IT and
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cyber talent crisis needs a two-pronged
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attack. One, yes, mass reskilling in
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those critical future focused areas, AI,
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forensics, IoT, security, all that. but
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two, and just as vital, a fundamental
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shift in leadership mindset, moving
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managers off that action autopilot and
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towards being more deliberate,
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reflective, analytical, and truly
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collaborative thinkers.
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So for you listening, hopefully this
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deep dive gives you a sharper lens on
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where the skills demand really is, but
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also why so many organizations are
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finding it hard to adapt. Understanding
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these gaps both in skills and in
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leadership thinking, that's really the
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first step towards finding solutions.
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And that brings us to a final thought,
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maybe something provocative for you to
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chew on. This whole shift we've talked
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about from volume to value. It suggests
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that your career progression in the
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future might depend less on titles and
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promotions and more on your actual
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impact and purpose, your unique value
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So, in a world still often obsessed with
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job titles and climbing the ladder, are
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you focusing your personal development
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on the things that will truly matter?
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Something important to reflect on.
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Definitely. Thank you for joining us for
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this deep dive. And one final thank you
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to our sponsor www.cisoarketplace.com.