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how do you view China in your National
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role our relationship with China is one
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that is complex uh given how closely our
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economies are linked there are a number
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of challenges and threats that need to
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be navigated with respect to China some
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of which have come up most recently uh
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with this very serious cyber uh
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exploitation in salt typhoon and volt
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typhoon uh that seemingly took us by
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surprise in the compromising of our
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major telecom companies uh and an area
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of of significant and great concern so
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some of your past statements that that
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are relevant to China are concerning
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because I don't think it fully
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appreciates uh China's perspective
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towards the United States for example
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with regard to Tik Tock um your past
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statements have essentially said that uh
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requiring domestic ownership of Tik Tock
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is a violation of civil liberties um and
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uh the National Security concerns are
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complete BS can you explain why you have
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this view on Tik Tock the position that
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I previously made obviously not as a
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member of Congress as you consider the
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Tik Tock legislation were centered
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around uh the protection of Americans
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First Amendment rights and the lack of
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data privacy legislation frankly that
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would apply to Tik Tok Facebook X all of
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these different social media
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applications that collect on us as users
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of these applications there were other
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there were other Provisions within that
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legislation uh that granted uh very
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vague and ser uh grandiose authorities
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to the president on deciding which
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private companies are or are not a uh
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national security threat so let's talk
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about China specifically because this is
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where I want to make sure you understand
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stake we've had concerns over many years
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that when China owns infrastructure it
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can manipulate that infrastructure it
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can use it for spying it could use it uh
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turn it on or off and you've actually
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address some of the most recent cyber
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attacks that we believe China had
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participation um the challenge is if
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China owns Tik Tok it means they can spy
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on the the United States on the American
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people it can take all the data from our
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children it can change the narrative
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about what people are talking about
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through their algorithms if it wants to
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create misinformation or malign for
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influence is very easy so you can you
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understand why it's so important that we
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require domestic ownership of Tik Tock
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uh I I understand the concern senator
