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can you guarantee that if C9 passes, no
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Canadian will end up being charged
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because of something they've posted on
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Uh well, if they commit the crime of
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willfully promoting hatred against a uh
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a crime with a definition that you're
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So, but uh it's possible that they could
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be convicted for uh uh what they
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willfully promoting hate online today.
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Uh so I I c certainly I would hope if
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someone commits a crime in the real
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world or online uh that they would face
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the appropriate criminal penalty if in
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fact it's it's captured by the code.
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We we had in in my writing a very
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disturbing case a few weeks ago where
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someone had mowed a swastika a huckenro
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I should say into their lawn and was
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charged under the existing criminal code
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definition. They displayed a symbol. It
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was found to be willfully promoting
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hate. law enforcement and the crown
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agreed that they could lay that charge.
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So why is your bill at all necessary
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when we already have existing powers
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which to Mr. House father's point
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earlier are simply not being enforced as
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often as they could be?
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Uh this is an important question. I'll
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answer it very quickly. Uh when you have
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the willful promotion of hate, uh the a
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person who's convicted of that could
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still be convicted but also of a second
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charge. uh the willful promotion of hate
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using hate symbols which would attract
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uh a greater degree of uh culpability
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and potentially a greater penalty
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recognizing that the use of hate symbols
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uh when you're willfully promoting hate
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can cause greater damage to both the
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individual and the entirety of the
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community. So I don't find these points
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to be inconsistent with one another, but
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instead that behavior could potentially
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face an additional charge with a more
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serious penalty because of the manner in
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which a person chose to promote hate to
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cause more damage to an affected
