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When it comes to the um large majority
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of some of those apps, New Define so on,
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they're blocked in Australia but still
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used obviously the the usual use I
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assume is VPNs the same way we're
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talking about kids getting around this.
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Is there any way to limit VPNs? Is that
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something you've looked at at all?
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Try to limit their use.
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I look I do defer to e safety as my
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technical guide in this space. We I I
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guess as the Minister for
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Communications, I'm looking at the
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public policy and I think even in doing
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what we're doing currently, we are the
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first to move on this space. And that's
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not to say that we won't be the first to
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move in other spaces as well, but we
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have to get a balance right in the same
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way that we talk about people who are
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under 16 need a balance between um the
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harms that they uh suffer online versus
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their right to a digital life, to
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creativity and connection. We have to
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get the balance right in regulation
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between yeah minimizing harms where we
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know that they are occurring
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particularly things like nutify apps I
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mean justify the public policy for that
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um up against private companies right to
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exist and and conduct business on our
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shores. That's why I think and why I
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keep returning to digital duty of care.
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so important because it asks what kind
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of responsibility these companies be it
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social media or others as we move on
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have to their users as they conduct
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their business on our shore and make
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millions if not billions of dollars off
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So it's something technically perhaps
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achievable but it would be a pretty
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well would it? Yes. A canyon.
