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B.C. tariff response bill calls for Buy Canadian procurement, aims to remove internal trade barriers
Mar 30, 2025
We have a bill in front of the legislative assembly, Bill 7, which is our tariff response bill. It has a number of components to … It assists us in eliminating internal trade barriers in procuring directly from Canadian and British Columbia companies to enable governments to prefer buying Canadian just like British Colombians are doing right now, to put a toll on commercial vehicles passing through British Columbia on their way to Alaska. It enables us to be able to do that, and it also has what I've described as an emergency response authority for the province to be able to respond quickly in the event that the president issues an executive order that targets British Columbia, our economy our people.
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hi everybody Great to uh see you here We're here on the territory of the Muskian Squamish and Slavit people And I'm here to address uh the issue that's
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front of mind obviously for so many British Columbombians today Um the sinking of the McBarge Um it's uh in
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tidal waters Uh so it's federal jurisdiction Uh but I want to assure British Columbombians that I have asked the prime minister for some one-on-one
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time to discuss this critical issue Um there are other issues though uh that I know that are front of mind for British
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Columbombians uh today so I'll also touch on those um had a uh call this morning uh with the prime minister and
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with premers across Canada to discuss uh the uh announcement by the president of
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the United States of his intent to impose a 25% tariff on vehicle parts and
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vehicles uh crossing into the United States Uh this is another uh reckless
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action uh by the president that will only increase costs for Americans Um the
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projection uh that's in the Wall Street Journal today is $10,000 US per vehicle This will increase costs for Americans
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Uh it is hard to imagine uh that this policy makes sense in terms of a broader
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strategy laid out by the president to reduce costs for people and to address uh the threat of industrialization in
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and uh and manufacturing in China Uh I am glad that the prime minister had a
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positive call uh with the president and uh and I'm also uh skeptical about uh uh
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the long-term uh of that positive relationship So I would count myself as a hopeful skeptic
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uh and I urged the prime minister uh to with our allies around the world The
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president is attacking countries everywhere right now uh we should be partnering with other countries with the
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EU with the Asia-Pacific uh with the UK with New Zealand with Australia uh
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ensuring that uh we are working together to respond to this uh threat to all of
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our economies and in fact uh to the global democratic order Uh so I am very
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hopeful uh that he will uh as best as possible in this campaign period uh continue to advance that
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work Um the uh in in terms of British Columbia's response uh to tariffs we
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have a bill in front of the legislative assembly bill 7 which is our tariff response bill It has a number of components to it It assists us in
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eliminating internal trade barriers in procuring directly from Canadian and
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British Columbia to enable government to prefer buying Canadian just like British Columbombians are doing right now Uh to
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put a toll on commercial vehicles passing through British Columbia on their way to Alaska uh it enables us to
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be able to do that and it also has uh uh what I've described as an emergency response authority for the province to
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be able to respond quickly in the event that the president issues an executive order that targets British Columbia our
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economy our people This is uh I think a very serious risk and one that we need
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authorities to respond to We have emergency response authorities for natural disasters We do not have
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emergency response authorities for disasters created by the president of the United States
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With that said uh I believe very strongly that we need the ability to move quickly but we've also heard from a
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number of people a number of key stakeholders including our tariff uh and economic response committee indigenous
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leaders uh uh trade uh organizations their anxieties that we didn't get the
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balance right that I didn't get the balance right in terms of the ability to move quickly and necessary safeguards My
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commitment from the beginning for British Columbombians was that we need to work together on these things with business with labor with industry with
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First Nations to respond to the tariff threat So with that in mind we'll be pulling part four of Bill 7 uh to ensure
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that we get the balance right My commitment to British Columbians is I will continue to ensure that we have the
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ability to respond quickly but if there's a chance for us to retool this and ensure that the safeguards are in
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place uh to make people feel comfortable that there's democratic and legislative oversight of these incredibly important
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provisions uh then we will do so Uh with that said I'd like to open it up now for
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questions from the media and uh and happy to hear from you Thank you for joining us today We have
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members of the media here in person as well as on the phone line For those who've called in please press star one to enter the queue That's star one To
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ask a question please unmute your line You will only be audible when you're called upon Media will be limited to one
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question and one follow-up We're starting in the room today Our first question is from Joe Sidowski City News
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Go ahead Joe Thank you Uh thank you uh Premier So uh are you able to uh provide
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a little bit more context in terms of the uh um anxiety that you know uh
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stakeholders are feeling and what exactly uh is it all of part four of
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bill 7 that you're taking out and uh are you able to elaborate more on the safeguards that uh people are concerned
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about and you know just emphasize how you're going to get rid of those anxieties Okay Uh well uh we've uh
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engaged with our tariff committee with first nations leadership uh with labor leadership business leadership and uh
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and across the board people understand the intent of the section which is to ensure that we're able to respond quickly to executive orders from the
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president that target our economy But what they would like to see is increased ability uh and uh increased oversight
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safeguards in relation to uh the legislative assembly process which could be uh reduced timelines for the
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provisions to be existing some sort of uh committee of the legislative assembly to have a look at those uh uh orders as
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they're brought in Uh that there are ways to achieve this uh quick action uh
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but that also broaden out the discussion within the legislative assembly I'm happy to take it back and ensure uh that
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we have that balance right Um as uh as much as I would like to be perfect I am
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not And so the goal here is to respond to the fact that uh I didn't get the balance right on this one But that uh we
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do need this authority We do need the ability to respond quickly And we'll work with those uh key stakeholders that
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we committed to work with at the beginning of this process to get it right and uh ensure that they're comfortable uh with uh with these
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provisions going forward And a quick followup Um you said you had a call with uh the prime minister and other premers
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today Uh why aren't other provinces looking to uh follow Bill 7 um and you
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know follow suit if this is the right move Uh well I uh I can't speak for
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other premers and the strategies and what they're planning on doing Um but I do know that I've seen Ontario respond
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by increasing charges on hydro to uh northern US states to respond to threats
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to their industry Uh that is the kind of authority that could be enabled by this
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provision So we see other provinces doing this uh but the question of uh the legislative grounding for that in terms
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of British Columbia it's not there We don't have that ability to respond quickly But I also understand that these
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are really significant authorities and that in order for people to feel comfortable with government having them
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they need to know that there is a corresponding oversight and ability for them to provide that feedback at
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critical times So we're going to make sure that that's in place Next we'll go to Singinjen Alexander
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from CTV Go ahead Good morning Premier Um let's go to the call if we can if any
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details you can give us on the call how long it was if everybody was on the call all the premers um as well And the me
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you mentioned skeptical you're skeptical about the rapport right now that Mr Trump has with us In your own words what
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did you mean by that Uh so the call was from 9:30 to 10:30 uh scheduled Uh we
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went to about 10:45 Uh it was good discussion All premers had the opportunity to weigh in We had an update from the prime minister and from uh from
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Dom Leblanc about uh their engagements uh both uh with the United States and
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internationally It was a very helpful uh update for us as well as some of their thinking about uh about steps moving
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forward Uh for my part I shared a number of uh of concerns from British Columbia One is uh the impact of retaliatory
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tariffs on the cost of public infrastructure highways bridges hospitals uh and major public projects
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as well as uh as my wish that the prime minister and his team aggressively
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pursue international partnerships uh to fortify our tariff response We're all working together Uh it feels a bit to me
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like a Bruce Lee movie where in this case the president is Bruce Lee uh and uh and everyone is attacking
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individually instead of going in as a group Uh I think if you're uh if you're going after the whole world I think that
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the world should uh come together and uh and respond together as much as possible Um my skepticism about uh about uh the
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president and his intentions are uh you know it it it varies uh depending on the time of day Uh we have seen someone who
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is not true to his word in terms of the trade agreement he signed with Canada Uh he's obviously abandoned it uh applying
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tariffs to us on a broad array of fronts in violation of that agreement an agreement that he negotiated Uh he uh he
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varies from being insulting to our country and our sovereignty uh to uh being complimentary uh depending on the
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day Uh and I think that that what we're going to see over the next four years and this isn't a great insight this is
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common sense to British Columbombians and Canadians is uh is any number of uh versions of the president and the only
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possible response for us is to get out of that cycle to work internationally to diversify to strengthen our national
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economy to buy Canadian to stand on our own two feet and uh and we can't be dependent on whether or not uh Mr Trump
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is in a good mood on any particular day Uh can we talk about Bruce Lee then Uh
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if we can please premier um lots of importance about needing a united front
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You've heard that Do you feel after the call that there is united front amongst all the premers Yeah I think uh one of
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the strengths of the team Canada approach has been uh that each of the premers comes at it from a different angle We each have uh aspects of our
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economy that uh could assist in responding to the US and pressuring the US uh for example like the toll
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provisions to Alaska here in British Columbia the critical minerals that are produced here in British Columbia Uh and
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uh and we all have uh different political connections in the United States And so I think that really enables us to go at this from a number
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of different uh points and and to be frank I think we've been successful so far Uh American consumer sentiment is at
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the lowest level that it has been in a generation The stock market has wiped
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off billions of dollars trillions of dollars in gains uh as a result of uh the tariff threat from the president uh
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he has shifted his uh discussion of how he refers to both the prime minister and to our country Uh as recently as today
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we see positive indicators that uh our outreach our work is having an impact Um
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but we've got to keep going because the president is clear that his intent is to destroy specific industries in our
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country In British Columbia he wants to destroy our softwood industry In Ontario he wants to destroy the auto parts
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sector uh he will not stop until he is stopped and so we have to work together to do that
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And we're going to go to the phones next We'll start with Rob Shaw from Czech News Go ahead Rob
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Well hey Premier Just a couple things here Is part 4 dead or are you going to
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retool it and bring it back uh somehow to address these concerns And can you
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just sort of walk me through like as someone with a background in the Civil Liberties Association and a and a civil
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libertarian how do how do you think when you reflect on it you got um the balance wrong here when we're talking about
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cabinet authority without legislative approval for two years and and this big sort of civil liberties backlash um from
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someone like yourself who has that that background Uh thanks Rob Uh so with respect to uh
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how the bill is constructed um anytime uh there is a natural disaster or
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there's others some kind of uh sudden and unexpected impact on the economy generally there are authorities that
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exist within the law for government to be able to respond when that attack is uh is of an economic form by a foreign
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government Uh we simply do not have those authorities It was the intent of the bill to be able to respond to that
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and it's an authority that I think we need to be able to respond quickly as a president that can act by executive
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order to harm us very quickly and we do need to be able to respond quickly So my
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intent is to take the bill away to work with key stakeholders find a version that addresses uh the uh safeguards that
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they would like to see the engagement that they would like to see uh but still addresses that ability to move very
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quickly to protect British Columbombians because that's our goal to protect British Columbombians and Canadians And
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uh and I'll say uh uh just uh broadly um my interest in being able to move
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quickly to respond to the threat that British Columbia is facing um got the
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better of uh certainly my understanding that uh that uh the safeguards that
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people are calling for need to be there as well So I'll make sure that we're addressing those safeguards uh that
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we're finding a way to achieve all of these goals if that's possible and bring the bill back as a separate bill uh for
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the legislative assembly Rob do you have a followup
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Sure Thanks Uh could you tell us a little bit about when you realized you were going to have to make this move I
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know you know like 10 minutes after the bill came out there was already suggestions about this We asked you
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about it in a press conference You had that meeting of your tariff committee I think last Tuesday where they said they
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had concerns about it You have former premers coming out in the last couple days Was there a certain point with a
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certain group or a certain voice that convinced you you were going to have to um back down on on this bill and and
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when did you come to that realization Yeah the uh the attorney general and her team have been engaging with a number of
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key stakeholders on this and uh and which includes our tariff committee
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among others And my commitment from the beginning to British Columbombians was that we needed if we were going to be successful in this tariff fight if we
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are going to be successful we all need to work together We need the business community we need labor first nations
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leadership we need all British Columbombians on side uh and uh the level of anxiety and concern that I was
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hearing uh from key stakeholders uh was pretty clear uh through the attorney general and her team was pretty clear to
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me that we needed to have another look at that and uh at this and that's what we're going to do
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Next we'll go to Richard Zusman from Global News Go ahead Richard
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Uh the obviously the first opportunity we've had uh to speak to you since the federal election started You had an
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opportunity to speak with the prime minister today Do you believe that uh we need
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consistency here and that Canadians would be best served if the Liberals win
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this election to provide stability uh through uh these threats of tariffs from
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the United States Uh well Richard there I mean there's no question I'm sure it's obvious to
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British Columbombians and to all Canadians that instability at the federal level during this critical time
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has uh been a problem It's been a huge challenge for us as a country to respond to this threat I will say that uh that
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the leadership uh federally um in the circumstances has done the best they can but the circumstances are not good Um I
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want this election behind us as quickly as possible I want a prime minister sworn in I want stability at the federal
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level I'm on team orange Uh uh and I'm on team NDP Uh but that stability is
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absolutely crucial uh for uh the country going forward And um and you know you
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can hear it even in the agreement uh that the prime minister struck over the phone for what that's you know worth
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with this president Uh that uh that there's going to be uh conversations about and negotiations about the entire
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trade package uh going forward with the United States as soon as the federal election is done Uh so it's it's cost us
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it's been a challenge Uh but uh the good news is to my mind is uh we do see a light at the end of the tunnel Uh we are
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getting to the end of the tunnel We're going to have a prime minister sworn in Parliament will be sitting and that will uh remove a hand that's been tied behind
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our back for too long Richard do you have a follow-up Yeah you know our parliamentary system
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can lead to some complicated results Are you encouraging British Columbombians to
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vote New Democrat in this federal election And by doing so do you have any
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concern that that could lead to vote splitting and produce a conservative
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government What what is your message to new Democrats out there centrist voters
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who supported you uh in the last election progressive voters who are who
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are trying to figure out what the best option for this country and this provinces in this federal election Uh
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well Richard I have total confidence in Canadians and British Columbombians uh to vote and ensure that they're
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supporting representatives uh regardless of party that are going to advance the interests of their community of uh their
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provinces and of the country as a whole Um people know what color jersey I'm
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wearing Uh but uh it doesn't matter the color of the jersey right now for Canadians Uh it's got a maple leaf on
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the front of it and we're all fighting together as team Canada I'm working with premers from all different parties
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across the table right now Uh and uh and sure want to keep that unified team Canada approach at the table So I'm
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going to do my best to uh to support uh good governance outcomes for Canadians
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out of the federal election and stay focused on working together as a country Next we'll go to Von Palmer from the
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Vancouver Sun Go ahead Van Uh good day Premier On the 13th of March
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you told us in a news conference that cabinet orders passed under Bill 7 would
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be subject to ratification by the legislature When you said that were you
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aware that there is in fact no clause in the bill that says that or requires this
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Well Von in in order for any provision uh passed under the part 4 uh which we
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will be uh uh pulling in order to retool it in order for any provision under that
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section to continue it would have to come to the legislature And I understand the objection that the 24-month horizon
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was too long for uh people It's a legitimate concern that's been raised Um
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and it's one that we're uh looking at addressing in terms of other safeguards we can put in place Um in addition every
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provision that was brought forward had to come out and be reported to the legislature There' be transparency
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around it I understand that that was not considered to be sufficient for key stakeholders So we're going to take this
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bill back and make sure that we have provisions in place that people feel and understand that there'll be oversight of
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these provisions while ensuring at the same time that we're able to act quickly to respond to an economic attack from
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the president uh that I entirely expect because it's what he's been doing since he's been elected and it's only been a
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few months and we got four years to go Von do you have a follow-up question
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Yeah you said gratification three times and it's not there It sounds to me like
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you hadn't read your own bill Well Von that's not true Um and it's not
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correct uh the every provision that would be passed in order to become law
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in British Columbia to continue would need to be passed by the legislative assembly within 24 months Um and I
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understand the objection that that is too long but it is not correct to say uh
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that uh it wouldn't have to be ratified by the Legislative Assembly
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Next we'll go to Katie D Roza from CBC Go ahead Katie
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uh premier in the some of the critics uh you know included this week u former Premier Gordon Campbell who said he's
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found it ironic that in responding to uh President Donald Trump who some have said has an autocratic approach You
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yourself were taking an autocratic approach and it suspending democracy How do you respond to those types of concerns Well you know my longtime
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friend and supporter Gordon Campbell uh had some opinions I understand that Uh but uh while I joke about that um I do
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take it seriously uh when a former head of the province I uh I Jeff Plant I
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think who's uh frankly uh been a broker on both sides uh raising concerns um but
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far from just those voices you know my commitment was with uh the business community with labor with indigenous
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leadership uh that we all needed to work together to respond to the tariff threat uh they raised some very serious
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concerns with me which is why we're going to take it back Uh we're going to retool it ensure those safeguards are in
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place and that we're also able to respond to protect British Columbian families uh from the threats presented
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by this president Katie do you have a follow-up
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How soon will you expect the other portions of the bill interprovincial trade uh to be you know put through the
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legislature since you know many businesses are saying that is the key part that they want to see expedited
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Um our goal is to uh get it through the legislative assembly as quickly as possible Of course all the parties will
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have uh the opportunity to interrogate the bill It'll go to committee stage and so on So uh I can't uh predict how long
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that process will take Uh but uh it is our commitment to pass this bill before the end of the session
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Next we'll go to Justine Hunter from Global News Go ahead Global Mail sorry
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Global Um something like that Global Mail Uh hi Premier So I just want to clarify first of all So Bill 4 sorry
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Bill 7 goes ahead without section 4 Then you want to bring a bill in that will embrace the principles of section 4 Uh
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what is the timeline for that Are you hoping to get that in quickly before the session ends Uh we'll take the time
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that's needed with our key stakeholders to be able to uh to do this work Um uh
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we're it's unlikely uh that we'll be able to introduce anything before the end of the session Um we already have
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quite a full legislative agenda Um but I do think it's quite an urgent uh need that the province has to be able to
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respond quickly to threats presented to BC families by the president Uh so we'll
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be working as quickly as we can with our stakeholders while ensuring that they have a chance to have their voices heard in the process
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Justine do you have a follow-up question Yeah thanks Um you you suggested amused
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about this idea of a community or sorry a a legislative committee that might provide oversight when the house isn't
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sitting Is there any precedent for that Um I I don't I don't know if you're in
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the uh in the press club uh Justine but maybe Von Palmer would know I suspect uh
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I I can't think of any examples uh that have uh have come to mind but that's a suggestion that's been advanced to us uh
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um and uh and it's something that we're willing to consider Uh the goal here is
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ensuring that we're able to respond quickly uh and that there is comfort uh that there's oversight and opportunities
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for feedback uh as I understand the concerns that have been raised
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Next we'll go to Wolf Deer from Black Press Go ahead Wolf Yeah Hi Uh good
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morning Uh thank you for taking my question Uh I want to follow up uh on Justine's question Um you said that uh
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that the bill 4 pardon me that the part four section of bill 7 um might not be
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tabled uh this um this session So uh that could mean that it won't be tabled
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until the fall Um so that's several months from now Um does that not undermine your own argument uh that you
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need um uh to act quickly on um on the uh the terror threats Thank you Yeah
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Well if I don't think it's any secret that I think um uh we need this authority that I think we need it
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urgently Um but I also uh recognize um my own vulnerability to want to move
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very quickly to protect BC families and protect our economy uh with the need to balance that with legitimate concerns
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that have been raised by key stakeholders of ours Uh so I want to move as quickly as possible to get this
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in place Uh but I also uh made a commitment to British Columbombians and to uh these key stakeholders that we
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would do that together Wol do you have a follow-up question Uh yes I do Um it sounds like you're
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trying to square that uh that proverbial uh circle here a little bit Uh but I
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wonder but since we're dropping Bruce Lee uh references here um whose fists of
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fury uh hurt the most in terms of your opponents uh regarding bill regarding
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part four of Bill 7 Thank you Yeah I mean for me it was very persuasive that there was considerable anxiety around
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our economic uh tariff uh uh response committee Um this is a a table that
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includes indigenous leadership business leadership labor leadership Uh and it's the reason why we set the table up There
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were two uh two main uh goals for that table One is for these leaders to bring
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suggestions to the government How do we respond quickly How do we strengthen our economy How do we diversify our economy
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And the second was to provide feedback on government initiatives Uh this was one that they provided feedback on It
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was very persuasive to me that they had serious concerns uh and uh that needed
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to be addressed So we're ready to take it back for me and and particularly given my commitment to the groups that
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are sitting around that table who have not worked together before in this way uh that we take their voices seriously
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and uh and we are listening and we'll work together Next we'll go to Daryl Greer from the
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Canadian Press Go ahead Darl Yes thank you Um Premier Evie what was
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the final nail in the coffin for this particular part of the bill Was there anything specifically that that changed
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your mind Um so for me it was uh it was critical
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to hear from our uh our economic and tariff response committee Uh there uh uh
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the anxieties that were brought forward about the need for increased uh safeguards and oversight in uh relation
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to these provisions that allow us to respond quickly to urgent threats from the United States uh was uh was
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certainly very persuasive to me Daryl do you have a follow-up question
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Well I have many but uh with specificity can you tell us who or what exactly made
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you make the decision to walk this back Sure I heard uh concerns from key
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members of our tariff response committee uh including indigenous leadership uh
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leaders of uh economic organizations in the province that I brought together at this table specifically for the purpose
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of providing this kind of feedback to the government with the promise to them that we would listen to them if they
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raised concerns and that is what we're doing here today We have time for one more question Our
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final question today goes to Albert Husi from Fairchild TV Go ahead Albert
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Yeah P Another question regarding the housing market Uh considering the
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housing market cooling down will the government um consider pausing the hype
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on speculation and vacancy tax and um and induce invite foreign investment
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Uh no we are not currently looking at uh at uh removing the provisions of the
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speculation vacancy tax Uh this tax in particular discourages people from buying homes and leaving them vacant as
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investments One of the risks that we face here in British Columbia as well as across Canada right now with a low
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dollar is that our real estate becomes significantly more affordable for international speculators and investors
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Uh and they can outbid British Columbombians and Canadians uh at this time certainly uh when our dollar is uh
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is facing considerable pressure uh and is uh is likely potentially to go even
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lower if the president follows through on his continued threats Uh we need to ensure that uh that um we're protecting
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British Columbombians that they still have the opportunity uh to uh to get into our real estate market Um in terms
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of investment generally uh we're looking for ways because uh we know that builders are facing a lot of pressure
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right now in terms of capital to be able to build uh pre-sales are uh the pre-sale market the old way of uh of
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marketing uh condos for example has been facing huge pressure not just here in British Columbia but across the country
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for a variety of reasons Finding ways that uh homebuilders can access capital to be able to build homes
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for British Columbombians and Canadians to live in whether to rent or to buy is
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something that we're working on very actively And we have a pilot project uh uh in uh in Vancouver with Musquam
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Squamish and Slay uh that creates the possibility of investment vehicles that allow capital to create housing that's
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more affordable for British Columbombians I'm really excited about that And there's other pieces that the housing minister is looking at So uh on
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the one hand we're going to continue to ensure that people are protected from having homes bought and left vacant On the other uh we're going to ensure that
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uh home builders are able to continue to build homes to respond to the needs of our population and especially where we
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can do so at reduced cost Albert do you have a followup
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Um uh just um has already answered Yeah No more
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Thank you That's all the time we have for today Thank you for joining us Hi everybody
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