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hey Premier it's John Woodward from CTV
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News this could be for you could be for
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the transportation minister u we're
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following up on the relatively recent
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news that Carfax has warned their data
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shows there could be over a 100,000
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fraudulently registered cars in Canada
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many of them in Ontario with VINs taken
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from uh exported cars uh plastered on
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stolen cars and ultimately resold uh at
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dealerships here in Ontario i wondered
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how concerned are you about that and
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what is the province doing to make sure
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that people customers aren't unsuspected
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customers aren't buying stolen cars well
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before I pass it over to the minister we
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take that seriously like any any crime
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again what I've been saying when we
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catch these people they need to go to
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jail when they don't go to jail there's
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no consequences they think they can
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continue doing this and that's why we're
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going to hire tough on crime judges that
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are going to keep people in jail and
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they're going to pay the price so their
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buddies outside are going to hear
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they're in jail and they're going to
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stop you know trying to uh steal and uh
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scam and weasle people of Ontario we're
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going to come down hard on them but I'll
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pass it over to the minister
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uh thank you very much Premier and uh
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just to add on to uh that first I want
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to thank Carfax for all their work on it
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as well because I know they've
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introduced some new tools to to help uh
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combat that as well uh but from from our
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perspective uh you know earlier this uh
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earlier last late last year actually in
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uh in the last legislative session we
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actually introduced um legislation uh
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for the first time that could fine
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individuals who were um reinning uh
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illegally vinning or committing fraud
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with VINs um up to $50,000 for their
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first offense up to uh and up to
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$100,000 uh as well uh including 6
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months in jail as well so that was the
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first time that that offense had been
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put forward uh it passed the legislation
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so we have always been uh you know
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working not only uh through legislative
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means but also uh my colleague Minister
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Crawford at Service Ontario uh has been
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um working with uh not only the industry
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but internally at Service Ontario to
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continue improving processes and
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verification uh processes as well so we
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can u come down hard on this but
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ultimately uh for us it's about making
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sure that we punish those who do uh take
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part in this create deterrenes through
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legislation uh but also then have the
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resources behind it to be able to
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enforce and also uh combat this which we
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have shown through whether it's um
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provincial police associations across
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the province or our many of our uh teams
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that have autotheft teams that have been
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uh put forward across um Ontario as well
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to combat this you mentioned Service
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Ontario you're probably aware of the
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charges and the conviction of the people
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in Service Ontario registering these
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vehicles uh one of the critics was
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telling us one way to make sure that
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there is some oversight in the vehicles
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that they are possibly criminally
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registering is to have inspections
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physical inspections of these vehicles
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and Ontario is the only province that we
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talked to that said they couldn't tell
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us how many physical inspections they're
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doing of these new vehicles is that a
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problem uh well look um you know I think
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we can look at uh every solution
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possible to this i think uh from a from
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our perspective we've been more than
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willing uh to combat and look at all
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tools possible uh whether that be
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legislative reform to enact harsher
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penalties to deter those uh whether it's
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working with uh police agencies across
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the province and and country to combat
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uh much of the organized crime that is
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involved in this um so you know I will
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definitely uh take that back with my my
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colleague Minister Crawford and and
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continue that conversation uh as as well
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as conversation when it comes to
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minrading across all ministers of
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transportation um and registration
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because oftent times you see it could be
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from from varying jurisdictions as well
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um so look we have no um uh no appetite
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uh to uh to uh to have any mercy on
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those who are stealing these vehicles we
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want to come down hard on them we have
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we've passed legislation we've given
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enforcement a lot of power on that we're
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working internally to increase those um
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provisions in which we can uh capture
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those who are trying to commit this
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fraud um and so uh we'll continue to do
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that and uh put forward more legislation
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that will help prevent it and any tools
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possible thank you that's great thank
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you you're you're bang on you You can't
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manage anything unless you measure it i
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promise you they're going to be measured
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and throw these guys in jail too for a
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few years teach them a lesson
