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Rejections shape success! In this episode of From Campus to Corporate, Anoop Jain shares powerful stories of resilience, turning setbacks into opportunities. A must-watch for students preparing for the corporate world!
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hello everyone and welcome to this show campus 2 corporate my name is basar and
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I'm your host today so this um this show is especially and
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designed for the students who are actually pass out from the college or about to pass out from the college um
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essentially we are keeping in mind there are several issues and the gap between the industry
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and the academy year to fulfill those gaps we have brought up you know this
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show which is campus to corporate uh uh in different episodes people from the
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industry and uh the experts they will be joining us they will be sharing their experience and uh giving it tips you
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know how you can go ahead and succeed we often you know face um rejections in our
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life in colleges in interviews in you know um in in daily routine wherever you
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are working on to but how to face those challenges the rejections and that's
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what is all about today's episode which is the stories of rejections and
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comebacks so we have guest today he is one of the industry leader uh he is
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co-founder and CEO of GX system Mr ano Jan
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um I can say a lot about him but I would request him to you know introduce himself and say something about him and
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then we can start the show all right uh thank you
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basar uh good evening everyone uh as basar mentioned my name
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is ano Jen and I am an entrepreneur by
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force uh that is how actually I in I inod myself uh so I have spent almost 28
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years in IT industry and seen many ups and downs of the industry in last 28
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years I have started uh career as a traine as uh uh uh you are about to
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start or some some of them actually have been doing it and uh work with the various
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organization in last 28 years uh worked in India worked in US various
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clients and in 2013 I started uh uh my own organization
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after working for almost uh uh 16 years
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uh uh in IT industry so I decided that uh let me start my own it organization
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so I started GX system and uh from there onward uh my journey of being the inter
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I'm actually enjoying that journey and uh uh right now actually I'm in front of
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you so that's it basar from my side this
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is all cool you know I like that word which is I'm forced
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entrepreneur uh all good all good so uh let's begin with the session and you
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know have a couple of questions and possibly you know we can get more questions from the audiences too so ano
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um going forward U would like to know since you have fa lot of you know um ups
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and downs as you said uh what is your memorable rejection where you can still
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cherishing it in terms of you know you learned a lot from there and uh that was
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a turning point for you okay uh so uh
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I would say that uh my turning point was uh uh
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2013 uh so I joined the uh company name d uh it it was in Bangalore and uh I was
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actually been walking with them and I was working as a like program director
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for their d.com platform uh so we used to put like lot
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of effort uh uh uh uh while actually bringing a lot of changes to the d.com
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platform it was not that easy to actually bring it uh but at the end of
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the day uh after like working for almost five years close to five years uh the
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company has decided to actually me downsize themselves and when that happens uh so I
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was actually I mean one of the person uh who actually I mean was part of that
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downsize uh so that was the like uh reaction even actually been doing best
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from our side uh from my side and uh uh
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then I decided that uh no more actually have been work for any other company so
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uh I decided that point onward uh I took a decision that I want to set on my own
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and I will do it for myself that was like turning point B for me that they
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have downsized it and IED that I wow this is good I mean
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most of the people I saw even they face any any rejection then they they get demotivated
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and you know similar to this the based on uh the same situation I have another
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question which is um how how you are making yourself motivated you know after
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getting rejections in fact it is not only one rejection even if you are getting several rejections how you can
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you know get um get you know motivated uh moving forward so that you know uh
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you can perform well you can you know do your best and you can move towards your
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target how you do it yeah so uh uh in in
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your life basar uh you have to make a goal actually right so uh I have like
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when I started my career I had like my my goal that I want to go to the San
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Francisco like I used to dream it actually and I I I was not actually sure
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that my dream actually will be true I used to learn that uh uh Golden Gate City of Golden Gate in the San Francisco
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right but uh uh when I graduated and then I did my masters uh uh uh uh and
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then I like after like a lot of effort I got my first job uh with a very small
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organization they actually admire me and they actually sent me to the city Golden
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Gate City of the Golden Gate it was way back actually in 1998 so it was actually
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been my goal that time that I set it up that I want to actually have go to the
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city of Golden Gate so I achieved it but any anytime actually I mean I get the
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rejection I look for that I want to actually me go to the next level actually from there and uh that actually
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I been helped me a lot uh uh when in my
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entire life I got like a few rejections every time actually I mean I got a
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little actually upset about that because there was no actually mean reason that I should have been in that situation but
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the same time I thought about myself did I did anything wrong no if I I haven't
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done anything wrong and I'm in the situation it means that that is not my fault right I can go actually next next
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level from there so that was the mo motivating point for me that I wasn't actually at the fault at any point of
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time so awesome I mean um looking at
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yourself getting yourself as a review you know that's another another level of
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course you know everybody should be doing it so that they can go ahead and improve it the goal is something where
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um you can always move towards that direction and that's how you know you can learn you can you know improve
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yourself great uh can you please tell me
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how you can you know adopt the new things the skills how you are improving yourself in a day basis even though I
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mean it's not all about the rejections but uh making or preparing yourself for
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the upcoming rejections how you are preparing yourself sure uh so uh I think uh I
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actually mean get the inspiration from uh uh other Industries uh uh not from it
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itself but from other Industries like uh if you go to the doctor right uh uh I
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have seen X me doctors are like even uh uh they old they have to actually I mean learn new
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things so I used to talk actually I mean like couple of my known actually they
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were a doctor when I was actually young and they they used to tell me that it is
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not that they have to study like 10 years but they have to keep updated yourself right so that was the first
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point uh I actually I mean took it from them that if I go in any industry I have
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to make sure that I actually I mean uh at the stage where that industry is so
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that actually I mean motivates me to uh learn about uh new things to actually I
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mean participate uh uh in the new things since I started uh my own organization B
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it becomes imperative for me to actually learn the new technology because I'm
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like front face for any any communic
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ation any conversation that happen from the GX system I have to participate in
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many of them actually and I have to keep updated myself so that also motivates me
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to keep updated from one Technologies to another what is coming up into the market as the New
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York wow I know that the responsibilities of the leaders uh the
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people who are taking you know moving forward um it's it's very big you know if you are the leader in your company
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you have to you know um take that initiative and uh accept all the
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challenges you know moving forward so all all good then
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so um do you think that only skill upscaling I know that the developers and
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the people what they do um they are looking into what is the current running
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in the market the trend the technology and whatnot uh but do you really think that
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up upgrading their skills or learning more skills is only a way or there are
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something else where people they can go and uh you know grab those opportunities
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so that it will help to grow in their career yeah so I think I have prepared
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actually basar slide which I think I I will go through uh sure in the session
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but uh I think technology is like one of the area actually I mean where you have
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to be Master into because if you go in any organization they will look for the technology as a first thing right but
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immediately the second thing actually will come your soft skill right how how
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good you are actually I mean communicate uh with others right so that actually I
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mean will be judged uh immediately next is like how good leader actually I mean
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you are are you actually I mean a leader right now or you are having a potential
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to become a leader actually in the future because any organization that actually look for they
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look for the leaders actually I mean leaders may not actually I mean go all the way up but whatever ex work has been
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given to them they command that work actually right and when they command the work they are able to deliver that with
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the ownership so there are quite a few things that actually you have to do it
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uh soft skills as I mentioned plus networking actually I mean plays a biggest role actually in any any any any
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uh professional career actually absolutely uh you have to have a very
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strong starting from your college till the
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time at a various stage when you are at different uh uh situations you can go
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actually I mean to your subordinate your seniors your Juniors and uh you can get
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lot of help from from them of course you know I see that you know the people they
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think uh meeting the topnotch people is the networking no a networking is
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something where you are meeting people from you know the top to bottom bottom to top and everywhere so even if that
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person is not from your domain or not from your technology or not from your industry that is again I consider this
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as a networking tool yeah I would like to add B very quickly one thing here uh so when you
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actually me work in a small organization the uh the company company networking is
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like uh not needed a lot actually because the projects are small actually right but when when I actually worked on
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the dell.com there there was like d.com is being supported by 120 products itself
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actually I mean there were like0 Pro projects or product behind d.com and
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there were around 60 teams different team who were managing upstream and
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downstream so you have to have a networking within a company in order to get your work done absolutely absolutely
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yeah all right so I think you know we got up uh
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questions can you also help our audiences I think you know these audiences are essentially the colleges
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students any suggestions any advice would you like to give them so that you
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know if near future if they get failure or maybe how they can you know get
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success yes so uh so I have actually basar I have a slide to present that
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that I think we will cover but uh just to answer actually I mean uh this
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question so first you have to actually been look at it that you have to
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actually root cause of your failure actually right there are certain times
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there are things which are not in your control right let's say that uh you are
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in join join an organization and when you join an organization you EX in the
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uh go there because you want to walk over there right but let's say that after like few months there is no
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project right so uh you you are actually at a bench and someone actually
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will come and say that okay since we are not getting the project then you are actually you have to leave actually that
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is not actually in your control fully right so you have to analyze the root
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cause if things are actually in your control you have to actually uh very
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carefully analyze it work upon it make a make a like a task list work upon it if
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things are actually I mean uh not in your control then actually I mean take it that okay uh I have to mean take this
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as like feedback that it happens actually in this organization this
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industry and prepare yourself and move on actually to the next one
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of course of course 100% 100% so even though U you know as I said before
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reviewing revie yourself is one of the key to you know get success so you can
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improve yourself uh okay all right I as you said that you have a slide to share
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if you can go ahead and share those that will be
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helpful okay uh so basar can you see the slide I can see yes I can see okay so I
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just prepared like few slides uh so so introduction is like to
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successfully transition from campus to cor press uh life additional steps must
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be taken to enhance so I have prepared actually this slide considering that uh there will be like students uh who are
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actually I mean about to leave the leave the college and uh they will be like uh
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going for internship or uh uh they will be going into the corporate world so
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before actually me they go into the internship corporate bo uh what should have been actually mean they doing it or
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what they can examine do it if they are still in the
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college okay uh so uh from my perspective I see actually I mean these
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are the five five areas actually where uh on a like a very high level these are
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the five areas where actually everyone has to every student has to work while
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they are into the college so they have to actually focus on learning and keep learning as basar
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you have mentioned that uh it's a learning and then keep learning thing
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actually happens uh you have to build uh you have to keep yourself motivated all the time
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you have to keep yourself motivated uh I will actually mention that how actually you will do it uh uh
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as I mentioned that you have to build strong Network so uh how it will help
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and how you can build the network uh I think we'll talk about that uh be ready
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for industry uh so when we are actually in a college we actually learn lot of
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actually lot of sub objects and lot of practical things we do it but there are
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certain additional if you do it certain additional things then we will be like industry ready what actually industry
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aspects and what actually you learn there is a slight Gap actually I mean into it if you fulfill that Gap while
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being into the uh College itself then I think you are almost ready to be
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deployed in industry and uh last is a make fi here as
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l so I have actually explained a little bit more about uh these things uh
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so when we are actually learning in a college uh or learn generally uh try to
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understand the concept uh behind them uh if you if you learn try to
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gamify your learning like you if you are living a CL with few friends
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s if you uh uh subordinate while examin in college you can gfy your learning and
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that actually will help you a lot uh uh in order to learn and make learning as a
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fun uh stay always curious uh so if you are curious then uh your learning X will
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become for more effective uh passionate uh definitely if
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you have actually selected that uh uh tra then you have you should be
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passionate about that and I can tell you that I think most of the people are here
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most of the students are here for the IT industry so it industry is like uh one
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of the industry which is like Dev deviz
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everything uh in this world uh make habit of uh learning uh
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because technology changes every few years so you have to actually mean make
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habit make that habit while you are into the college itself actually so I have
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seen actually I mean the whole evalution of Microsoft so uh like there was actually
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I mean internet started in Ian came in the 1993 94 so uh I have used the
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internet for the first time in 1995 Google came actually I mean in uh I
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think uh 99 or 2000 the Google came that time so things changed uh every few
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years technology changes in the IT industry you have to actually make sure that you have a habit to learn about
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those technology uh second is a keep yourself motivated uh so how you will actually I
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mean motivate yourself you have to have a clear goal there could be a shorter
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goals there could be a larger goal as I said like uh when I was young I I I I
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dreamed about it that I want to go to the San Francisco because I I I I I
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learned that into the general knowledge book that there is a uh city city of
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Golden Gate named San Francisco and I want to go over
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there and I think I was lucky enough that uh the first city that I went I
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went to the San Francisco uh celebrate goal success so
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whatever actually mean goals you have created uh you have to I mean celebrate
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them whatever way uh uh it gives you like happiness you have to celebrate
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that uh you have to develop a growth mindset what does this mean that uh uh
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if you have to motivate yourself it means that uh you have to set uh that
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how you will grow actually in your life so in college also you are
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actually mean learning but you're living your life so you have to have a growth
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mindset over there uh you can join communities I think a lot of colleges
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has good communities you can join there and that also ex some time give a
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happiness and motivates uh some of the bud were like
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stay organized and avoid one out so lot of actually students I have seen that uh
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they are very laborious I would say that it is good to be a laborious but you
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have to have a smart thinking as well and uh you have to welcome for the
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feedback so lot of time actually we have seen that we get demotivated because
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someone actually said something wrong about us if someone said wrong about us
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then it is not always that he has a wrong intention there could be a
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possibility that certain times there will be a wrong intention but most of the time it is like uh we have to take
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that feedback and we have to analyze ourself and uh and and move forward from
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there uh uh build strong Network I think we already talked about it uh so a lot
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of time actually uh it helps uh uh uh to uh grab the good jobs because uh aloes
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comes back to uh your college and if you have like good networking then uh there
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is opportunity that you can grab the good jobs uh uh they can they can help you
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actually me on the mentorship and uh they can do the guidance uh when you actually start your business and
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startups then uh networking actually plays the biggest role because uh uh
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even uh you have a product you have to have a you have a website but you have
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to actually me tell a lot of people about your product and they they can actually I mean for the first customer
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there will be someone actually I mean who is known to you actually and he will be part of the network who will be using
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that product and then he will be circulating everything good about that
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product in this world uh there are difficult time uh
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where you need XM in that support system so I can tell that uh when I lost my job
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in Us in 2001 and I came back so one of my like a mentor he helped me and uh he
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helped me to actually join an organization where he was me uh CTO so
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uh difficult time networking helps uh how to build a network uh uh I
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think uh everyone knows about it I just I will reiterate uh you have to attend events
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uh workshops and meetups and when you actually go there make a connections actually I mean it is not that you go
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there and just cut out from there make a connection keep that connection alive uh
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alive for a longer longer period uh use LinkedIn actively I think LinkedIn is
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like best place right now and I think I would say that she is also like one of
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the uh platform where X you can engage with lot of good
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people uh help others in your network if you help others in your network you will
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get the help back from them uh I think very important be ready
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for industry so we all we all know that uh we learn Technologies even actually
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we are doing our subjects study we also start learning uh about Salesforce
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learning about net month stack all actually we are learning these days uh I
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think what we are not learning actually in college is the process actually I the
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the software development life cycle agile uh how actually me it works and
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how it get implemented in a corporate world actually that is very important to learn actually uh that that is the gap
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that I see right now people are sorry students are very good uh in technology
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but uh it takes like few months before actually we can fully employ them in
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them in our organization and that is because uh uh the processes that
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actually me needed for any organization small to big uh you have to follow
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certain processes and those processes you can have a like awareness you can
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have like bit of practice actually I mean uh within College itself
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and that actually will help you a lot when you are actually uh coming to the corporate world uh develop soft skills
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as uh I already mentioned previously uh Stay Stay updated with the uh
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industry uh start networking and uh build leadership leadership is like one
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of the like key skill actually if you have like leadership quality good
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communication I think uh it it will help help you actually get into the corporate world but when you actually grow from 5
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years to 10 year down the line who will actually go to the letter uh that will be the that will be decided by the
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communication and Leadership uh make failure as learning
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uh I think we talked about it uh uh change your perspective on failure that
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it happens because of myself my my fault or it happened because of uh things
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which I cannot control it uh analyze what went wrong uh develop a growth
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mindset adapt and improve uh if if it was because of you then uh adapt and
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improve take action make a goal move forward and uh seek uh mentorship and
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guidance from your network stay positive and keep uh keep trying uh I think uh that's it basar
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from site it's already like 801 right now yeah yeah this is absolute we are on
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the time and in fact I really love this entire um deck which has the essential
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points uh since you know I went through with the same Journey you know I can related and I can say that you know
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these are 100% absolute required points to be covered up if you are building your profile since you know um your
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college um era you will be you you will be in the ladder you will actually uh
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growing in your career not only the skills but uh yes absolutely the
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networking and the other part which is you know open up for the growth mindset
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and be the industry ready the these are essential points because I see the lot
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of people the students when they join any organization they are taking another
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three to six months to adopt themselves and you know um gel with the mats and the in the
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corporate Culture The Learning in the agile how the project works and everything but if they will start from
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there of course you know that will be beneficial for the industries all right so I think uh um
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although we are over time but I'll open up a poll if any questions are coming
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from the audiences we can spend either one or two minutes and we can take those
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questions um otherwise we we can you know wrap this show let's wait for another one minute
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uh do do we have any comments or questions to be
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shared all right hello Sak
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yeah all right all right so uh it looks like you know we all are done and over
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the time too uh I'll be thanking you ano you spare you spend your time you spare
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some time with us and you shared your insights uh to the students and
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audiences uh hope this that will be definitely helpful for them so all the audiences um thank you everyone for
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joining the show from wherever you are and uh we will will we will having the
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same show once again uh after alternate week all right with
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that said we'll see you soon thank you thank you [Music]
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