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Fly
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[music]
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been a while. What's going on, Flight
0:17
Paniacs? It's back. We are back. It's
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triumphant return of fly verbally on the
0:25
Broad Street Hockey Radio Network over
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here. It's Steve Jo. It's Ryan Quigley.
0:30
We're here. We're talking about the
0:31
Philadelphia Hockey Flyers. And uh we're
0:33
not excited to talk about the Flyers,
0:34
but we're here anyway talking about the
0:36
Flyers. We missed you guys. And we hope
0:39
you missed us as well. I know you've
0:42
gotten I'm sure you've seen a lot of me.
0:44
I've done a lot of podcasts, but we
0:46
haven't heard from our good friend Ryan
0:47
Quigley here. And I'm very excited to
0:49
hear the Quigsterers's takes today
0:51
because while the Quigster may not have
0:53
been as maybe plugged in to the Flyers
0:56
as he has been in recent seasons, he's
0:58
still got great hockey takes. I love
0:59
talking hockey with this guy. Ryan
1:01
Quigley, how you doing today, my friend?
1:03
>> I'm here and I'm coming in hard, Steve.
1:07
>> That's what you want to hear. And uh
1:08
real quick, shout out to our friends at
1:10
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1:12
But Ryan Quigley declaring that he's
1:15
coming in hard on this show and that's
1:18
what you want to hear. He's
1:19
>> hard a lot as we know.
1:21
>> Did you take any uh any special pills
1:24
beforehand or just all natural? Um
1:26
>> this is just me come coming in hard.
1:29
>> That's all it is. Just [laughter]
1:31
>> innocent coming in hard here. And did
1:34
you come in as hard as the uh the Flyers
1:37
fighting coach outside of the bar stool
1:39
bar? [laughter]
1:40
>> You know what? No, I'm I might not be
1:43
coming in that hard actually.
1:45
>> You've seen this, right?
1:46
>> So, I I it's I actually have not seen
1:49
the video, but I've heard of what
1:52
happened. And so, basically, for those
1:54
who are listening to this, and if you
1:56
are listening to this, you are enough of
1:58
a psycho a psychopath to be following
2:00
the team close enough to know that they
2:02
hired this man, the Philadelphia Flyers
2:04
NHL hockey club. They officially hired
2:08
this man who we're about to watch over
2:11
the offseason to teach their players how
2:13
to fight. And so far, uh, very few of
2:17
the players have been fighting. Um,
2:19
really, who's fought this season aside
2:21
from Deloreier? Gbankin's fought. Uh,
2:25
>> fought. Mishkov had a fight.
2:28
>> Mishkov had technically had a fight.
2:30
Yeah,
2:30
>> technically had a fight.
2:32
>> Um, has anyone else fought? I would have
2:35
to look it up, but not not a ton. Like,
2:39
>> it really [laughter]
2:41
so funny. Like, why would you spend the
2:44
time to in the the money and the effort?
2:47
I mean, I don't want to talk too much
2:48
about this guy because I feel like, you
2:50
know, you want to talk about somebody
2:51
who could beat the ever living crap out
2:53
of me, it's this guy right here. But,
2:55
uh, it's just very funny that in the
2:57
year 2026
3:00
that they're hiring a fighting coach.
3:02
Like, okay, cool.
3:05
>> That's really just pointless, right?
3:07
[laughter]
3:08
>> It's the most Flyers thing possible.
3:10
Like, it's just so so flyers that they
3:13
would hire a literally fighting.
3:16
>> That's so Flyers right there. Yeah. I'm
3:18
trying to find uh the video. I'm trying,
3:21
you know, I'm having a little bit of
3:22
trouble there, but it's a you know,
3:24
>> screw it. You can find it. Find it on
3:26
your own. It's somewhere on social
3:28
media. But it's just so funny because
3:30
like he's outside of the bar stool bar,
3:32
which you want to talk about big
3:34
surprise. There's trouble outside of the
3:36
bar stool bar. What are you [laughter]
3:38
stupid? Uh you have to love that this
3:41
guy's name also is uh uh Garbarino. Just
3:45
like Johnny Canoli is what he goes by.
3:48
But [laughter]
3:49
just so this [Β __Β ] up
3:52
>> much much there's something about the
3:54
Flyers. They must have a hotheaded
3:56
Italian somewhere somewhere in the
3:58
organization coaching.
4:00
>> John Tortoella was the head coach and
4:02
now the fighting coach is also a
4:04
hotheaded Italian. Uh so is he from
4:07
South Jersey or Philly somewhere that
4:10
guy or what's his situation?
4:12
>> You know, I have not looked too much
4:14
into him just because like I thought
4:16
this was such a silly signing in the
4:18
first place. But uh you just got to love
4:21
that he goes by Johnny Canoli and then
4:23
he was punching like so you know when
4:26
bars have that little like storm door
4:28
area outside in the front and it's like
4:30
kind of like plexiglass like plastic.
4:32
He's like punching through the the
4:34
plexiglass the plastic out there to get
4:37
at this [laughter] like it's a wild
4:40
video. Please check it out when you get
4:41
the chats. just so funny that that's one
4:44
of the Flyers related headlines that has
4:46
happened in recent weeks. Just
4:50
[laughter]
4:50
like you can't I really could not make
4:53
up all the different [Β __Β ] with this
4:55
headline right here. I'm trying to see
4:57
um my I had a buddy who sent me a text
5:00
with this headline and he basically said
5:02
this is the best Flyers related thing
5:04
I've seen in a while. Uh it was okay. I
5:07
think it was the Inquire headline.
5:08
Flyers fight coach and Baron knuckle
5:10
brawler. Johnny Canoli Garbarino sparked
5:13
the melee.
5:15
>> Yes.
5:16
>> Oh, I didn't know that. I thought he was
5:17
just like a UFC fighter or something.
5:20
>> Yeah. Yeah. So,
5:22
>> they wait. So, the Flyers hired a bare
5:24
knuckle brawler
5:26
>> to coach their players on how to fight
5:29
that. All right. So,
5:31
>> here's specifically from Inquire Sports.
5:33
Last off season, the Flyers hired Johnny
5:35
Garbarino to help younger players hold
5:37
their own during fights on the ice. He
5:38
had an ideal resume for the job. The
5:40
South Philly native is an undefeated
5:43
middleweight in the Bare Knuckle
5:44
Fighting Championship.
5:47
>> Bare Knuckle. Okay, what what strikes me
5:50
about this is that there are people in
5:52
the and this shouldn't be surprising at
5:54
all. Um, I don't know why I'm acting
5:56
surprised in any way, but this means
5:59
that there are people within the Flyers
6:00
organization who in their free time,
6:02
they watch bare knuckle brawl fights.
6:06
And um, that is that I mean, listen, I
6:11
don't watch UFC. I It just doesn't
6:13
interest me. I don't
6:15
>> I don't have a problem with UFC, but
6:17
it's not my thing.
6:18
>> Um, same thing like boxing. Like, I
6:20
don't have a pro I don't have
6:22
>> Just not for me.
6:23
>> Yeah. I just don't watch it. Bare
6:25
Knuckle Brawl stuff is barbaric stuff
6:29
and like it's border like you have to
6:32
like go on some weird website where like
6:34
your virus you're going to get a virus
6:35
or something on your computer to watch
6:37
it. Like it's very weird and shady in
6:40
the fact that the the Flyers knew who
6:42
this man was number one and then number
6:44
two said, "You know what we need to do?
6:46
We need to get that guy on payroll. We
6:48
need to hire him.
6:53
This is the Flyers. This is the
6:55
>> the Flyers. This is the Flyers right
6:57
there. And again, happening at the Barto
6:58
stole bar. Just like chef's kiss of a
7:01
headline right there.
7:02
>> It all makes sense. And that's like I've
7:05
actually been dying to talk about this
7:06
because I haven't gotten to talk about
7:07
this on the other I I've had to be a,
7:09
you know, professional podcaster out
7:11
there. Like I got weird [Β __Β ] to talk
7:13
about here. I got to talk about that. I
7:15
gotta talk about the fact that we've got
7:17
a baseball championship going on right
7:19
now and the Italian team is doing shots
7:21
of espresso in the dugout and it's the
7:23
greatest thing I've ever seen. You know,
7:25
it's all we're living in weird weird
7:27
times.
7:28
>> Now, I assume that they're just
7:30
espresso. Are we sure they're not
7:32
they're not like espresso martinis?
7:34
>> I it could be. I don't I I'm assuming
7:37
it's hot espresso straight up because
7:39
there is a reaction shot from one of the
7:40
players where he's like it was too hot
7:42
and he jumped back from it. But uh it
7:45
could be it may I mean I wouldn't be
7:46
surprised they had a little bit of you
7:47
know a little bit of spice in there. Uh
7:49
spice up your life. Yeah.
7:52
>> Okay.
7:52
>> Yeah.
7:54
>> There's a lot of weird stuff going on in
7:56
sports right now. Like the you know
7:59
Kyler Murray's on the Vikings now all of
8:00
a sudden.
8:03
>> Every NFL move has been super weird.
8:05
Reed Blankenship is going to be on the
8:07
Texans which is like Reed Blankenship.
8:10
Kyler Murray feels like he shouldn't be
8:12
able to play for a team other than the
8:14
Cardinals because for for no other
8:17
reason than he he is the size of a
8:21
Cardinal.
8:22
>> Yeah, he's a really tiny guy. He should
8:24
go back to baseball. He should honestly
8:27
he should like because wasn't he between
8:29
he was between should I play baseball or
8:31
football professionally and he went with
8:33
football which is stupid because
8:35
>> stupid
8:36
>> like why why would you do like baseball
8:39
you just stand in there really until you
8:41
>> oh I could get a hundred concussions or
8:44
I could just play in the sun all the
8:46
time.
8:47
>> Yeah. Be in the sun. Um
8:49
>> get your vitamin D.
8:51
>> Yeah. Like you you're going to run but
8:53
only for like you know 60 feet and then
8:56
you're you stop running.
8:57
>> It's a sport that John Krook can play.
9:01
>> Honestly,
9:02
sign me up. Like that's that's all the
9:05
convincing I would really need.
9:07
>> You know my Who's the guy? Oh my god. On
9:10
the Mexican team there's a guy who's
9:12
also on the Blue Jays and I can't
9:14
remember. He had the last name Kirk. Um
9:17
and he is
9:18
>> Alejandro Kirk. Yeah. Alejandro Kirk.
9:22
>> This is my kind of player because he is
9:25
he's a nice hefty guy. My kind of guy.
9:28
5'8 245. Oh, sign me up. My kind of
9:32
player.
9:33
>> He's kind of fast, too. He's like not
9:35
slow.
9:36
>> He's not slow. Like he's way faster than
9:38
me. And it's just 5'845.
9:42
This is my kind of guy. I saw him out
9:44
there and I'm like, "Oh, look at that
9:45
guy. Hell yeah."
9:47
>> Yeah. Yeah, cuz I was I was
9:49
>> I was in the PHLY studio last night and
9:52
I had the Mexico Italy game on the one
9:54
TV and I had the Flyers game on the
9:56
other TV and I
9:58
>> in the first period. The Flyers game was
10:00
actually pretty good in the second and
10:01
third period. Uh we're recording this on
10:04
Thursday. I'm referring to the game
10:05
against the Capitals that they played on
10:07
Wednesday. Uh you'll probably hear this
10:09
after they play the Wild game in which
10:11
we are expecting this team to get
10:13
slaughtered.
10:14
>> It's going to be bad.
10:15
>> It's going to go real bad. Yes. Yeah,
10:18
>> it's going to go real bad. And uh hey,
10:19
if you head on over, I mean, it's going
10:22
to be too late to get those odds in, but
10:24
if you head on over to FanDuel, the odds
10:26
for the Flyers to win are plus 184 on
10:30
the money line. So, uh it ain't going to
10:32
happen. It's minus 225 for the Wild. So,
10:36
if you're feeling very confident about
10:37
the Wild, you could put uh quite a bit
10:39
down. And uh let's say if you put uh
10:41
like 20 bucks down on the Wild, you
10:43
could get 8.89. It's not a lot of money,
10:45
but hey, you know what? If you're really
10:48
confident, no, don't bet. Don't bet the
10:50
house. Don't do that. But, uh, you know
10:52
what I do like in this? Uh, I like
10:54
Trevor Zagris plus 300. Get another
10:56
goal. Uh, Trevor Ziggress had a
10:58
beautiful goal in that Capitals game,
11:00
which there has not been a lot since
11:04
early January to really be excited about
11:06
with this team. So, it was really nice
11:08
to see another just gorgeous Zegrisk
11:11
goal after, you know, I think a month of
11:14
a month and a half of absolute torture.
11:17
>> Yeah. And, you know, this is kind of
11:19
what I wanted to get into because like
11:20
at this stage, I know the Flyers aren't
11:23
out of the playoffs. Like, they they
11:25
have not been officially eliminated,
11:26
right?
11:27
>> I think they have a 5% chance or
11:29
something like that.
11:30
>> It's very low. It's very low.
11:31
>> It's very low. Yeah. But like anyone who
11:34
is not delusional is watching these
11:36
Flyers games not with hopes of, you
11:39
know, them fulfilling their playoff
11:41
dreams, but more so with hopes of let's
11:43
see the young guys do cool stuff. And so
11:48
far, like last couple games, we've seen
11:50
that. We saw Trevor Ziggress playing
11:52
well. He's been good the last couple
11:53
games. Uh Matt Fishkov has been looking
11:56
a little bit better. Denver Barky, I
11:58
mean, that was that was a great feed,
12:00
too. I believe it was Matt Famishkov for
12:02
that goal against the who was it the uh
12:05
I can't remember Julie
12:07
>> there was somebody recently and it was a
12:09
very good feed those guys have good
12:10
chemistry uh they the last
12:13
>> Grabbankin like
12:15
>> was great in the Capitals game because
12:17
he was just having a lot of like madman
12:20
Grabbankin moments where he's like
12:22
getting in people's faces and like
12:24
really agitating the other team and
12:26
laughing as they're trying to punch him.
12:27
It's fantastic stuff there. Going full
12:29
joked it.
12:30
>> I think that was Brandon Dooh or
12:32
something that was going after him and
12:34
it started from early on because I
12:36
remember early on uh they were maybe it
12:38
was like the second period or something.
12:40
They were behind the net and they, you
12:43
know, they were just throwing, you know,
12:46
jabs at each other, you know, the whole
12:48
face wash, all that. Um and then at the
12:51
end of the game, of course, as fate
12:53
would have it, they come back together
12:54
at the final buzzer. Duh is losing his
12:57
mind. I don't know what Gbankin said or
13:00
did to him, but Duhane was acting like
13:01
he just killed his whole family right in
13:03
front [laughter] of him and he wanted he
13:05
he needed to get to Nikita Grabbankin
13:08
and the whole time it's actually kind of
13:10
funny because Dooh got like totally
13:13
manhandled by a ref and then [laughter]
13:16
then Grabbankin you can see he's
13:18
pointing and laughing at him and it's
13:20
just like I'm telling you Steve I'm
13:22
telling you right now Nikita Grabbankin
13:25
what a flyer already. Oh yeah,
13:28
>> I love him. I love Grabben and that's
13:31
the kind of role I really like him in is
13:32
that [Β __Β ] stir role and it got to the
13:35
point like things got really out of hand
13:36
at the end of that game and it was great
13:38
and like I felt like we were just shy of
13:40
a full brawl and it it's one of those
13:42
moments where it's like well if Nick
13:45
Deloreier was here there might have been
13:46
a possibility of that but I it was
13:48
really good to see them because we
13:51
haven't talked even since way before the
13:53
trade deadline at this point but they
13:55
traded Deloreier away for essentially a
13:57
bag of pucks not even that because it's
13:59
like the possibility of a bag of pucks
14:02
at some point and that's fine because
14:04
Nick Deloreier cannot play modern NHL
14:06
hockey at all. He is just there for the
14:09
elbow room vibes and all that. And
14:11
that's cool. Uh I'm glad that Dr. T
14:14
apparently allowed Rod the Bod to get
14:16
one guy for the vibes, which is very
14:19
unlike Dr. T. But hey, if it puts him
14:21
over the top, then great. And maybe he's
14:23
just got a great playlist. But it was
14:25
good to see them in a game where there
14:27
was a physical threat and they didn't
14:30
feel like they they had to have the the
14:33
big goon guy come in and fight their
14:35
battles for them. They were picking up
14:37
for each other because Tom Wilson was
14:40
throwing his weight around in that game
14:41
and he was pissed off to the point that
14:43
the broadcast overheard him at the end
14:45
of the game calling somebody a [Β __Β ]
14:46
nerd.
14:48
>> Yeah. Which is he he stole that from TK
14:51
first of all. Um, I mean that what do
14:54
they call that? That's plagiarism,
14:56
Steve. Um, but [laughter]
14:58
yeah. No, like I truly I don't know what
15:00
got into Tom Wilson was like on one last
15:04
night. I mean, he I my god, dude. That
15:08
guy has such main character syndrome.
15:11
It's crazy. Like he he [laughter] thinks
15:13
he he really thinks he's the most
15:15
important guy and like the guy out
15:18
there. And don't get me wrong, he's
15:19
awesome. But like I can name a quite a
15:23
few players who are uh much more
15:26
important than than he is. And uh yeah,
15:29
I don't know.
15:29
>> He made the Olympics and it went right
15:31
to his head.
15:32
>> Yeah, he he's acting like I he's you
15:35
know what Tom Wilson is? Tom Wilson's
15:37
the kind of guy who refers to himself as
15:39
like an alpha. I feel like he would say
15:42
that about himself and I'm just like
15:45
dude, you're like it's really funny.
15:47
Like
15:47
>> it is really funny.
15:48
>> People like him. I just kind of like
15:51
think are hilarious ironically.
15:53
>> Right. Right.
15:54
>> Yeah.
15:54
>> Or like you there was that one moment
15:56
when he really laid out connect and it's
15:59
one of those things where it's like it
16:01
was a clean hit.
16:02
>> That was clean.
16:02
>> But like he it was very unnecessary, you
16:06
know, given the circumstance at that
16:07
point. Like he very much like he's
16:10
gotten very crafty about this where he
16:12
used to have these blatant hits that you
16:15
can just point out and you're like
16:16
that's some dirty [Β __Β ] right there. I
16:18
know it. And he does stuff like he does
16:20
it clean now, but like he does it in a
16:23
very unnecessary fashion. Like the play
16:25
that was there did not warrant that kind
16:27
of hit. And he waited until he had the
16:30
right moment and he just popped him one
16:32
which again you are doing it the right
16:34
way so I can't really complain too much
16:36
but like we all know what you're trying
16:38
to do and you are trying to hurt
16:40
somebody out there. Like
16:42
>> I I know and you are targeting the best
16:44
player on the team. You know, we're not
16:46
at the point like I think Trevor
16:48
Zaggress and Matthew Mishkov have higher
16:50
potentials, higher ceilings, but at this
16:53
point it's still TK. He is your points
16:55
leader. He is the guy and he's very much
16:59
with the intention to pop him and maybe
17:01
knock him out of the game because that
17:03
was a big loss for the Capitals. The
17:04
Capitals were in a better position to
17:06
fight into the playoffs than the Flyers.
17:08
That's a big loss. They lost in
17:10
regulation to a Flyers team that is, you
17:14
know, Bill and I called it a mid-off
17:16
last night, right? And they are two
17:19
pretty mediocre teams right there. But
17:21
the Capitals, if they had won that game,
17:23
they could have had some momentum. They
17:24
could still be in the playoff race. That
17:26
was a big loss for them.
17:28
>> Yeah. Yeah, it was. Um, and it's it's it
17:32
is funny how the Flyers this time of
17:35
year, it does seem like they make a
17:37
little bit of a habit out of this where
17:38
like they're basically out of the
17:40
playoffs, but then they play against a
17:42
team they should lose to and then they
17:43
beat them. It's
17:44
>> No, last year that was a big deal.
17:46
>> Yeah, it's just kind of funny. What one
17:48
other thing I wanted to say about that
17:49
uh Tom Wilson held on. My favorite thing
17:52
about it was how after he laid the hit,
17:55
Tom Wilson like, you know, he knew he
17:57
was about to get, you know, everyone is
18:00
gonna go after him. So, he's just kind
18:02
of standing there like, come on. And
18:05
Trevor Ziggress skates over to him. He
18:08
was the first one to him, but he just
18:09
skated over like easy, big fella. He
18:12
[laughter] he said he did not want any
18:15
smoke from Tom. Like Trevor Zris knew
18:17
like this guy could absolutely literally
18:22
murder kill me like right now. So he
18:26
just went over and like softly touched
18:27
him like it's okay. It's all right.
18:30
>> Oh that boy.
18:32
>> Yeah. And then Sanheim comes in and he
18:34
he tries to do something but that didn't
18:36
go over great either. So
18:38
>> yeah. Yeah. But they were picking I felt
18:40
like they were really picking up for
18:41
each other in that game. Especially
18:42
Gankin
18:43
>> really throwing his body around. Those
18:45
are the guys that you're focusing in on
18:47
at this point because like you know
18:49
they're not going to finish bottom well
18:51
they might not finish bottom five. You
18:52
never know but they probably won't
18:54
finish bottom five. They're almost
18:56
certainly not making the playoffs. So at
18:58
this point you just have to watch and if
19:00
you're sickos like us like you're
19:02
watching and you're really just trying
19:04
to focus on the positives from young
19:06
guys like Trevor Zagris doing good stuff
19:08
Matthew Mishkov doing good stuff.
19:10
Gbankin showing who he is. And there's
19:13
one guy who's now not in the mix because
19:15
we've talked about this a lot over the
19:17
past couple years that there's a lot of
19:19
malice defeat at Wing especially after
19:21
drafting Porter Barton. So, somebody had
19:23
to move and we all assumed it was going
19:27
to be Bobby Brink. Uh we all really
19:29
liked Bobby Brink, so we were kind of
19:31
hoping it wouldn't be, but we understood
19:34
if it was. And well, it ended up being
19:37
Bobby Brink. He was their big move at
19:39
the deadline because uh Danny Breier
19:42
couldn't find anybody willing to give up
19:44
a firstrounder and a prospect for uh a
19:47
guy who gets mysteriously hurt and
19:48
disappears for months at a time in
19:50
Raasmus wrist linen
19:52
>> who big shocker who uh two years ago
19:54
didn't know how to play the game of
19:56
hockey and had to learn from scratch.
19:58
But I digress. Uh [laughter] but I do
20:02
like this
20:03
>> to Risto though. Credit to Risto for
20:04
turning himself into an actual real life
20:06
hockey player. Yeah, Risto has come a
20:09
long way. I actually like Risto. He does
20:10
not bother me on the team. I would have
20:13
loved to have traded him at the
20:14
deadline. I am willing to I'm a little
20:18
calmer than I was at the deadline, but I
20:20
would very much like to see him trade in
20:22
the offseason, especially given who they
20:25
just traded Bobby Brink for in David
20:27
Gurichek because this is not a guy who's
20:31
ready yet, but he was a high draft pick.
20:34
He's a guy with a lot of interesting
20:36
tools that if they can give the Risto
20:38
treatment to this guy, you have a
20:41
potential top four, maybe even a top
20:43
pairing guy given his size and skill
20:46
set. Uh, but you know, it does it's very
20:49
much a sell something that's useful
20:52
today for a future asset kind of move
20:55
there. Uh, it it was good as a hockey
20:57
trade, but you know, it absolutely
21:00
benefits the Wild here and now, but it's
21:03
close. I I'm so I have so many feelings
21:06
on this. I really I've said a lot of my
21:08
piece. I want to get yours uh
21:10
specifically because I haven't heard
21:11
from you too much on this. And before I
21:14
do that, I just want to say that, you
21:15
know, Brink,
21:17
I I it's got to be incredible to be
21:19
Bobby Brink and to be on this Flyers
21:23
team that had just the worst January,
21:25
just in an absolutely abysmal January
21:28
and then goes on the Olympic break is
21:30
just seesaw and up and down. And then
21:33
you get traded to a team that is
21:35
legitimately exciting. A team that made
21:37
the biggest swing in the league in years
21:40
with Quinn Hughes. just what an
21:42
unbelievable swing. I don't like Bill
21:44
Garin, but that I I have to admire a
21:48
move like that to take a swing for a guy
21:50
like Quinn Hughes and Brink is just a
21:52
nice complimentary player in that
21:54
lineup. And you know, playing the third
21:57
line on the Wild, your hometown team too
22:00
with that is night and day versus
22:04
dealing with just this middling Flyers
22:06
team.
22:07
>> Yeah. No, he's on a competitive team.
22:09
He's home. He's he's a m Minnesota kid.
22:11
Like that. That's awesome. Now, one
22:13
thing to remember, Steve, this is not a
22:16
family reunion for Bobby Brink.
22:17
Famously, [laughter]
22:20
we all know he's there to work. Uh for
22:22
those who don't know this, Bill Garin,
22:25
the uh esteemed general manager of the
22:28
Minnesota Wild, basically said really
22:31
weirdly, the day of this trade, he says,
22:34
quote, and this is from Michael Russo of
22:36
the Athletic, he says, quote from Bill
22:39
Garren, "The first thing I told them was
22:41
this is not a family reunion. This is
22:43
not to get together with your buddies.
22:45
Tell your buddies in your family, they
22:48
know where the ticket office is. Buy
22:50
your own freaking tickets. Okay, I'm
22:52
serious, too. Like, I'm half kidding,
22:54
but I'm half serious. Like, he's coming
22:56
here to work and to be part of the wild
22:59
and to win. Like, this is not coming
23:01
home to hang out in Minnetonka
23:04
and all that stuff. He's here to work.
23:08
>> Known party destination, Minnesota.
23:11
Everybody goes to Minneapolis and it's
23:13
like, "All right, I'm finally in the
23:15
Twin Cities. I'm gonna just party it
23:18
up." Yeah, that was a very odd quote by
23:22
Bill Garin. Uh, thanks for that, Bill.
23:24
Um, I'm sure
23:25
>> he's an odd guy. Like, between Paul
23:28
Fenton and Bill Garin, they just have
23:30
quite a history of weird GMs in
23:33
Minnesota over there. And Bill Garin, I
23:36
feel like, doesn't he always look drunk
23:38
to you? Just always redfaced.
23:41
>> He does. And lately, he's been growing
23:42
his hair out and he just looks like an
23:44
aged, less tattooed version of Bam
23:47
Marggera. And it's really [laughter]
23:50
it's it's unbelievable. Truly, Steve.
23:53
Like, if you take a look at him, he
23:55
really really does look like just a less
23:59
um you know, drug adventured
24:04
banar. It's truly something.
24:05
>> We gota we we got to go to the the tape
24:08
on this one here, but we're gonna
24:10
>> we're gonna look it up here.
24:11
>> Bill Garin, long [laughter] hair. Um and
24:14
you'll you'll find a couple things. And
24:16
he I I swear to God he looks like B
24:18
Margger a little bit.
24:20
>> Oh my god.
24:21
>> But uh No, like it's Well, I'll actually
24:24
wait for for this to come up.
24:26
>> Well, you keep talking while I get this
24:27
up. Uh but yeah. [laughter]
24:30
>> Well, basically what I'll just say is um
24:32
you know I I am happy for Bobby Brink a
24:34
lot. I have a lot of thoughts on this,
24:36
so this is gonna this is going to go
24:37
wild, but I am happy for Bobby Brink
24:40
because with the Flyers, it it just
24:43
seems like, you know, you're right. He's
24:45
leaving a very mid team, if that, and
24:49
going to truly a Stanley Cup contender
24:52
right now. And it's actually kind of
24:54
funny because he's going to two from one
24:56
team that lacks center depth to another
24:59
team that lacks center depth, but has
25:01
elite play from their wingers. Um, the
25:05
Flyers have good play from their
25:06
wingers. The Wilds, they have some of
25:07
the best wingers in the entire NHL. So,
25:11
um, that's a nice little thing for him.
25:13
and he's going to get he's going to be
25:15
playing some good minutes hopefully
25:16
there and and we'll see what happens.
25:18
But now here's my here's where what I
25:20
think about this trade, Steve. I the way
25:23
I described this to Joe D. Marini when
25:27
we were uh we were watching the Flyers
25:29
game against the Penguins uh last
25:32
weekend. Um
25:34
I like this trade for the Flyers.
25:37
I love this trade for the Wild. And the
25:40
reason I say that is exactly, you kind
25:42
of alluded to it a little bit earlier.
25:45
Bobby Brink is going to be very good for
25:48
the Wild right now. This very like right
25:51
now for the Flyers. David Uric is very
25:55
much another project. You could consider
25:57
him basically Jamie Dale version two.
26:00
Essentially, they're getting a young
26:02
defenseman who hasn't panned out, who is
26:04
perhaps rushed into the NHL, and now
26:07
they're trying to develop him, clean up
26:08
his game, and turn him into a, no doubt
26:12
about it, really good NHL defenseman.
26:14
That's essentially what's going on. Like
26:16
Jamie Dale and David Urchek, same story.
26:19
Um, I
26:22
like Urachek a lot. I remember his draft
26:25
year. I really liked him. Um he brings
26:29
the size to the table definitely. He I
26:31
believe he's six foot four. He's over
26:33
200 pounds. Like good size on him. Um
26:36
which obviously the Flyers think is
26:38
paramount. Um so, you know, I like that
26:42
about him and I do like that he does
26:43
have some offense to his game. Um he has
26:46
a crazy shot which rocks but there's a
26:50
lot of other issues in his game that has
26:52
to be worked on from the skating to the
26:55
um kind of to positioning to you know
27:00
people say his offensive IQ is pretty
27:02
high but like I would like to see a
27:04
little bit more at the NHL level there.
27:06
So um and he's young he's only I believe
27:09
22 years old so it's not like he's you
27:11
know he's it's it's not like he's a lost
27:13
cause. there's plenty of time to get
27:15
this figured out with him. But um I I
27:18
like the upside of David Urchek. I truly
27:21
truly do. I also really really like
27:26
Bobby Brink right now. And I'm going to
27:27
be honest, Steve, I think Bobby Brink
27:31
has not hit his ceiling yet. I know he's
27:33
24 years old. People keep saying, "Oh,
27:35
he's 24." Like, he probably is what he
27:36
is at this point. I'm not sure he is. I
27:40
feel like he could have another level
27:41
when he's paired with or when he's
27:44
playing with better talent around him.
27:47
Um, and that's not that's not to say
27:49
that when he was playing with, you know,
27:52
>> Tyson Forester, that's not good talent.
27:54
I swear to God, look at this. [laughter]
27:57
>> I had to figure out like I was trying to
27:59
do the screen share with uh I'm using a
28:02
different browser than I used to and it
28:04
wasn't working. So, I just made a a file
28:07
on my phone, uploaded it. There we go.
28:08
So, we got it. So, that's uh Bill Garin
28:10
at the top, Bam Margera on the bottom.
28:12
They could be father and son.
28:14
>> For those not watching this, um that's a
28:17
you problem. Uh there is a picture there
28:21
is a picture of Bill Garin with long
28:23
hair paired next to Bam Margera and
28:27
>> of jackass fame.
28:29
>> It's It's the same photo.
28:34
>> It's so
28:34
>> fantastic. I'm so happy.
28:36
>> I'm very glad I I'm glad I did that,
28:37
too. I'm glad I put that together. That
28:39
was a great that was a great call out on
28:41
your part. But yeah, let's So I'm
28:43
pulling up Bobby Brink's career numbers
28:44
right now and this is again I I have
28:47
said this is a player that I think
28:49
anybody would like to have on their
28:51
team, you know. Yeah, I think he's I've
28:53
said this about Ryan Paling and I hold
28:55
to it. Ryan Paling having a nice year
28:57
with the Ducks, too. So, he's he's
28:58
worked out pretty decent for them. um
29:01
still a better trade for the Flyers, but
29:03
like you know, every everybody wants a
29:05
Bobby Brink because Bobby Brink's a very
29:07
smart player. He's a good tenacious
29:09
player.
29:10
>> He's just a kind of guy that can fit on
29:12
like any NHL roster right there. Uh so
29:15
right now he's played three games with
29:16
the Wild. He has one goal in the last
29:18
game. Uh but you know, he's getting his
29:21
footing. He's figuring out where he is
29:22
in the lineup. His careerh high at this
29:25
point was his second year in the league.
29:27
He had 41 points in 79 games with the
29:29
Flyers. So, you know, I I think he has
29:33
room to grow. If he can be like a 40 to
29:36
50 point player, that's a very useful
29:37
player, especially
29:38
>> Yeah.
29:39
>> on the third line. Do you see his
29:40
ceiling being in that range?
29:43
>> I personally I I definitely think he
29:46
could be a 4050 point player. I really I
29:49
mean, we've already seen him hit 40
29:50
points before, so we know he can do that
29:53
at least. Um, I could see him being a
29:56
50-point player definitely. Um, yeah.
29:58
>> And I just I I don't
30:02
I could see Bobby Bre, and I'm not
30:03
saying this is gonna happen, but I could
30:05
see a scenario in which Flyers fans look
30:08
back at that trade years down the road
30:10
and they say, "Wow, the Flyers got
30:11
fleeced in that trade." Like, we got
30:14
this guy David Urchek who played three
30:16
years with the Flyers and he wasn't even
30:18
that good. But Bobby Brink went and won
30:20
a Stanley Cup with the Wild and he had
30:22
he spent 13 years there and he had like
30:25
six 50point seasons with the with the
30:27
Wild like like something like that
30:29
happening. I could see I'm not saying
30:31
it's going to happen because and I want
30:33
to reiterate
30:34
>> I mean it is the Flyers.
30:35
>> David Urech I like David Urech and I do
30:38
think based off of what we've seen the
30:40
Flyers do with Jamie Dale I think they
30:42
can do it again. I do believe that
30:45
>> Jamie Dale and Rasmus Stin, you know,
30:47
and and Dale, we were just talking last
30:49
night because he's actually really
30:51
starting to figure out his goal scoring
30:53
touch, which is really nice because he
30:56
reworked his defensive game entirely.
30:58
Like he was basically a non- entity on
31:01
defense and now he's a pretty good
31:02
defensive hockey player, but now he's
31:05
adding that offensive aspect and that's
31:07
really exciting. And I think they're
31:09
going to have to do something very
31:10
similar with Uraichek, but he also has
31:12
some more size than Dale. So, it's gonna
31:15
have to kind of be a combination of what
31:17
Risto and Dale has hap had happen so
31:21
far. So, that's interesting. I like the
31:23
trade just because the Flyers defensive
31:26
depth is a problem. They really do need
31:29
higherend defensive prospects. It's
31:32
pretty much just Euroch and Bonk right
31:34
now. And I'm not trying to throw shade
31:36
on some of those other guys in the
31:37
system that have been there for what
31:38
feels like 20 years at this point, but
31:41
they just are not guys that excite me.
31:43
Sorry to Hunter McDonald out there, but
31:45
yeah, uh, not an exciting name for me.
31:48
>> Another thing I want to say kind of to
31:50
further the point you're making right
31:51
now is that yes, they do need to add to
31:53
their defensive pipeline. And you know
31:56
where they do not need to be adding to
31:58
the pipeline is the wing. I mean, you're
32:00
right. You're exactly right. Like
32:02
there's a log jam at the wing. There's
32:03
oversaturation of good wingers on the
32:05
Flyers. To what you said earlier,
32:08
someone had to go. It was going to be
32:09
Bobby Brink. We might even see another
32:12
winger go this summer. Cough cough. Owen
32:16
Tippet. Cough. Cough. But um we'll have
32:19
to see about that because he has been
32:21
playing pretty well this year. But what
32:23
now?
32:23
>> Best player on the ice in the Washington
32:25
game. Everybody was talking him up in
32:26
the locker room. He was fantastic. He
32:28
had six shots in that game. He had a
32:31
bunch of breakaways. Like
32:32
>> I it really is the ultimate frustrating
32:36
player because like I will say though
32:38
this season he has been much more
32:40
consistent. He takes a lot more shots
32:42
actually getting them on net. This has
32:44
been a much better showcase for Owen
32:46
Tippet. But if they can work I I would
32:49
love to keep Owen Tippet because he is
32:51
such a fast player. But ultimately the
32:53
goal is a center. And if you can work
32:55
him into a trade for a center, I'm
32:57
talking Robert Thomas, I'm talking uh
33:00
Elias Person, you know,
33:02
>> Austin. Oh my god, what a dream that
33:04
would be.
33:05
>> Austin Matthews.
33:06
>> This is, by the way, I think one of the
33:08
most fascinating discussion points in
33:10
the Broad Street Hockey Slack is the
33:12
idea of Austin Matthews as a flyer in
33:16
the future. Because like there are
33:18
people that are staunchly opposed like
33:20
because they they see that loser energy,
33:23
right? They see that loser AR and
33:24
they're like I don't want I don't want
33:26
that loser AR. He doesn't have that big
33:27
he doesn't have that dog in him.
33:29
>> Uh the guy scored 60 plus goals in a
33:32
season. I I think he's got some dog in
33:33
him.
33:35
>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know
33:37
about the Austin Matthews thing. It's a
33:38
fun thing to think about. Um but you
33:40
know another thing in ter now that we're
33:42
talking about you know trading a winner
33:44
um for a center honestly
33:47
>> because you still got a log jam like you
33:49
have Forester coming back you have
33:51
Porter Martone coming up you have Matt
33:53
Vishkov you have Travis Kknney you have
33:55
Owen Tippet and you have Trevor Zris
33:58
Alex Denver Barky
34:00
>> Denver Barky there's so many wingers
34:02
there's millions of wingers like they
34:04
don't need this many
34:05
>> I would have Tyson Forester I I
34:07
mentioned somebody said like an
34:09
experiment experiment with like Tyson
34:10
Forester playing setter or something. If
34:12
he can do it, get him there because it
34:14
would be amazing.
34:15
>> Yeah. Now, one thing I want to say is I
34:19
in regard to the Bobby Brink trade, I
34:21
didn't see him being traded the way he
34:24
was. I didn't think it was ever going to
34:26
be a one one forone trade. I thought
34:29
>> I thought he was going to get worked
34:30
into a bigger deal with wristan. I
34:32
thought Bobby Brink was gonna be a just
34:35
perfect as like a in in a trade package
34:39
to get a 1C. Like yeah,
34:42
>> I like honestly what I was thinking is,
34:44
you know, maybe you go
34:46
>> uh you trade wristan with Bobby Brink
34:50
and a first round pick and something
34:52
else and then you get, you know, some
34:56
star player. Like that's what I was
34:57
thinking. Um and that's not what
35:00
happened. like I I did not see him being
35:03
a one for one trade guy. I really
35:05
thought he would end up being part of a
35:07
package. Um
35:09
>> so that that was interesting to me. But
35:12
um you know and and again I I do want to
35:14
reiterate I don't dislike the trade for
35:16
the Flyers. I just know that for the
35:19
Wild is a certainty at least at least a
35:24
certainty. He he could be even more than
35:26
what they think they're getting. with
35:27
the Flyers. They need Yurichek to prove
35:30
himself and that comes with risk. But if
35:32
it if it pays off, boy oh boy, do they
35:35
have a player in David Uric.
35:38
>> Yeah, it's a big risk. I think you have
35:40
to take risks like this and it is
35:43
frustrating because like everybody
35:45
wanted Risto traded. They wanted
35:47
whatever they were going to get like
35:48
because there were some crazy deals
35:51
going for right-handed defenseman. But
35:53
as I said before, I totally understand
35:56
the perspective of other GMs to not want
35:59
to take that risk because like wristan
36:03
is just like he [clears throat] just
36:05
gets hurt and he disappears off the face
36:08
of the planet. He was great in the
36:09
Olympics and you know I think that was a
36:13
nice showcase for what a playoff wrist
36:15
aligning could look like. But I also,
36:18
you know, it's been pointed out to me
36:20
that the Flyers played the first quarter
36:22
of the season without him and that was
36:24
probably their best hockey of the
36:25
season.
36:26
>> Yeah. No, absolutely. And it's it's
36:28
just, you know, to me that was where the
36:30
disappointment was in them not being
36:33
able to trade him is that, you know, um
36:35
he
36:38
how do we know he's not going to get a
36:40
mystery injury again very very soon and
36:43
he just disappears for months on end?
36:45
like it's happened multiple times at
36:47
this point. Like while he's healthy and
36:49
playing well, you got to take advantage.
36:51
But the thing is is other other teams
36:55
aren't stupid. They also know that he
36:58
does that he will just disappear for a
37:01
long time then come back. And um you
37:04
know I I believe it was Charlie who
37:06
reported saying like yeah the Flyers
37:08
never got a first round pick in a trade
37:11
offer for Raasmus versus Align. that
37:14
being the case, then I'm okay with
37:15
keeping him
37:16
>> because now granted I I personally I
37:20
personally would have traded him for a
37:21
second in a prospect.
37:23
>> The Flyers were like, "No, we want a
37:25
first." And honestly,
37:27
I appreciate that from Danny Brier. I
37:29
really do. Like a second round pick,
37:32
like
37:34
>> what? Like
37:36
>> who cares? Whatever. Like if that's left
37:38
on the table, I can live with that. if
37:40
they I I believe the fear for you know
37:43
the couple days you know on trade
37:46
deadline day and the day after was oh my
37:48
god Danny was getting the same offers
37:51
for Arasmus wrist line and that other
37:53
teams were paying to get a right-handed
37:54
defenseman and he wasn't taking it what
37:56
the hell is wrong with him turns out he
37:58
wasn't getting those offers if he was
38:01
he'd be gone and you know it's that made
38:04
me feel a lot better about the whole
38:06
situation was just getting that confir
38:07
confirmation of oh no they weren't
38:09
getting the the first round pick was
38:11
never on the table and that makes me
38:14
feel fine about Raasmus versus Salan
38:16
staying. Now that said,
38:19
ship his ass out this summer.
38:20
>> Oh, get him for sure.
38:22
>> Get him out.
38:22
>> I want to see Yeah, get him out of here.
38:25
I want to see Oliver Bonk up with this
38:27
team if he's ready for it or Yurichek.
38:29
Either one of them because now you got a
38:31
couple righties in the system that you
38:33
can work up in there. you know, you
38:35
finally have some guys to work with and
38:38
I want to see and I really hope they
38:40
don't screw up this Emil Andre thing
38:42
because
38:43
>> Rick Tocket has become a real problem
38:45
with guys like that with these European
38:47
[laughter] players at this point. Um,
38:50
Emil Andre, I really don't like how
38:52
they've handled him this season. I think
38:54
he's a guy that, yeah, he's going to
38:56
have some bumps in the road with his
38:57
game, but when he is playing at his
39:00
best, he's really a special player. And
39:02
look, I I am not under the illusion that
39:05
Emil Andre is like a first pair of
39:08
defenseman, but I think he can really
39:11
give you an offensive spark that not a
39:13
lot of other guys in this lineup can do.
39:16
And I think it's worth having that guy
39:18
in the lineup. And I think they're
39:19
better with him in there than without
39:21
him in there because I ne if they bring
39:24
back Noah Jollesen, I'm gonna have some
39:26
serious problems with this team.
39:28
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Like listen, no Jules
39:31
doesn't he just doesn't make a ton of
39:33
sense. Like he's a UFA. Like it you can
39:37
find a player just like him who's not
39:40
named Noah Jlesson very easily. So I I
39:44
say just let him go. But um yeah, I
39:47
don't know. It's it it is going to be
39:49
curious to see what this blue line looks
39:51
like next season because, you know,
39:52
you're going to have Well, I was going
39:55
to say you're you're going to have
39:57
Travis Sanheim, you're gonna have Jamie
39:58
Dale, I was going to say you're going to
40:00
have Cam York, but like do we know he'll
40:03
be back that that he will be back? You
40:05
know, I don't know. I I feel like
40:07
there's a lot of there there's so many
40:09
players on the table um who could be
40:11
moved this summer. Um, and you know, you
40:14
got
40:14
>> I want to get to the summer so bad.
40:16
Like, because they're in this no man's
40:19
land again, which is where we all feared
40:21
they would end up. And
40:23
>> all the exciting stuff is next year now.
40:26
Like, yeah,
40:27
>> there was exciting. And there has been
40:28
exciting stuff this year. I think seeing
40:30
Trevor Zager's turn into what he has
40:32
been for this team has been super
40:34
exciting. I think seeing Denver Barky
40:36
and Bump come in and be productive right
40:39
away has been awesome. you know, and the
40:42
the evolution of Dale continues. There's
40:44
a lot of really good things with this
40:47
team. And you know, I you can complain
40:50
about D'vorak and his contract all day.
40:52
He has been a solid player for this
40:53
team.
40:53
>> Yeah, I'm so sick and tired of that.
40:56
Like people freak out D'Vorak contract.
40:59
That is not something being worth being
41:01
upset about. It honestly isn't. Like
41:03
it's not
41:04
>> It's not my tenth issue. Like it's not
41:06
my top 10.
41:07
>> It's not a bad AAV. Is it longer than we
41:10
would like it to be? Yes, but he's a
41:12
good middle six center. Like
41:14
>> Yeah.
41:15
>> Like if I've said it before and I'm
41:17
saying it again. If Christian D'vorak's
41:20
contract is what's keeping the Flyers
41:21
from winning a cup,
41:23
>> what it first of all, no, it's not.
41:26
>> You got bigger fish to fry if that's
41:28
>> much bigger issues. Much bigger issues.
41:30
So,
41:31
>> um yeah, it's uh I'm not even talking
41:33
about that anymore.
41:34
>> I'm exhausted about talking about it. I
41:36
I I actually put in the notes when I did
41:39
the trade deadline show. I was like,
41:40
"Bill, I don't even want to talk about
41:42
Christian [laughter] Morax contract. I'm
41:43
over it. I'm completely over it."
41:45
>> He's a good player.
41:46
>> He's a good player. He's not great. He
41:48
He's good. He's a perfect middle six
41:50
center. I'm fine with it.
41:52
>> But I want to fast forward to the off
41:54
season so bad because I It does feel
41:57
like it's very frustrating right now.
41:58
We're hitting like peak frustration
42:00
because this would be a playoff team if
42:02
they didn't completely tank January.
42:04
January or they would be at least closer
42:06
to a playoff team. But completely
42:08
tanking January completely tanked this
42:10
team. They are just dead in the water
42:12
right now. And it was because they had
42:14
one of the worst Januaries I've ever
42:16
seen. And
42:18
so at this point, the exciting stuff is
42:20
in the offseason. thinking about what
42:22
they could get in the wrist line and
42:23
trade, thinking about any deals they
42:25
could potentially make to upgrade the
42:26
center because
42:28
people might be angry and doing these,
42:30
you know, trying to organize like chats
42:32
and stuff like that, but ultimately I
42:35
think the franchise is very aware of how
42:37
pissed off we are and how also apathetic
42:40
we are. You know, they don't like that.
42:42
Keith Jones is very plugged into the fan
42:44
base. So, I I know they want to make
42:47
that big swing. It's just really hard to
42:50
make that big swing because those guys
42:52
are very rarely available and we saw how
42:54
many guys were supposed to be free
42:56
agents this year that sign deals. The
42:58
fact that Conor McDavid signed that
43:01
bridge deal is one of the
43:03
>> so dumbest things. Let somebody pay you,
43:06
dude. Let some Carill held out and got
43:09
the huge payday. Carrill is a smart man
43:12
and McDavid could have gotten 20 plus
43:15
easy a year and he should just let Papa
43:18
Comcast pay you lots of money, my guy.
43:21
Come on to live in your bland house.
43:23
>> Yeah, that black and white house.
43:26
>> Black and white house.
43:27
>> It's a bizarre house. Um,
43:29
>> no. Like, and listen, no, you mentioned
43:31
the big swing. We did hear from Elliot
43:34
Freriedman on 30 32 thoughts that
43:37
apparently the Flyers tried to make
43:39
quote unquote a big swing.
43:42
Didn't work out, but makes you wonder
43:45
what was that big swing. And in that
43:47
exact same podcast, what did Elliot
43:49
Freiedman report? Teams were sniffing
43:51
around Austin Matthews.
43:54
>> It just makes me wonder if if there's
43:56
correlation there. It makes me wonder if
43:57
the Flyers are are eyeing what's a
44:00
horrible situation in Toronto. No one
44:02
wants to be playing for the Maple.
44:04
They're on an eightgame losing streak
44:05
right now. They're going to lose again
44:07
tonight. I believe they're already
44:09
they're already down um against whoever
44:12
the hell they're facing. I don't know.
44:14
Doesn't really matter. They're going to
44:15
lose. Um
44:16
>> should have kept Mitch Marty, I guess.
44:18
>> Yeah. But they're down 2-1 against the
44:21
Ducks in the first period. Um so it's
44:24
just no one want like they're about to
44:27
lose their nine straight game. I'm just
44:28
gonna go ahead and say they're gonna
44:29
lose their ninth straight [laughter]
44:31
and and like no one wants to play there.
44:35
>> Nobody wants to play for Craig Baruby.
44:37
>> Austin Craig Barubi, he's going to get
44:39
he's gonna get canned. Austin Matthews
44:42
is just done. He's he's done. The team
44:46
is horrible right now. And it's not his
44:48
fault. Like he's doing what he can. And
44:51
you know, could he be doing more? Yeah.
44:53
But you know, is there some apathy
44:54
involved there? Probably. after years of
44:57
dealing with this [Β __Β ] I would want
44:59
to get the hell out of Toronto as well.
45:01
So, like,
45:02
>> yeah,
45:03
>> it is the worst media environment in the
45:06
league to deal with, too.
45:07
>> Yeah,
45:07
>> because it's like Eagles coverage in
45:10
Philadelphia is what hockey coverage in
45:12
Toronto is like.
45:14
>> Yeah. And up there, Toronto fans have a
45:16
weird thing of like, I don't want an
45:18
American captain. It's just like you
45:20
guys are idiots. Just like it's
45:22
unbelievable. So, um, honestly, that's
45:26
what that's what I'm thinking, Steve.
45:28
Like, I I think
45:30
>> I think the Flyers should have their
45:32
eyes on Austin Matthews. He's going to
45:35
be Listen, if teams are sniffing around
45:38
Austin Matthews, and the Maple Leafs are
45:41
just straight up tanking right now.
45:42
They're not close at all. The closest
45:45
they were was the last few years, and
45:48
they absolutely fumbled the bag every
45:51
single time. So, like at this point, I
45:54
just feel like they need a reset and
45:55
yeah, I feel like they need to trade
45:57
Austin Matthews and I think the Flyers
45:59
should be one of the teams that does
46:00
that because that is a big swing and
46:02
it's exactly what the Flyers need. Will
46:04
he be a perfect Philadelphia Flyer? Will
46:07
the Flyers fan fan fan base worship the
46:10
ground he walks on? Probably not.
46:12
They're probably going to be pissed at
46:13
him sometimes, but you know what? He's
46:15
an un undeniably a 1C, a very very very
46:20
good onc. And
46:23
it just
46:25
I want I that's what I want to see this
46:28
off season. So I don't know how we got
46:30
on this topic, but that's what I want to
46:32
see.
46:32
>> Let me ask you then. Let me ask you the
46:35
real uh devilish question here. The one
46:38
that uh the upsetting question to go
46:41
with this. So let's say you're Danny
46:43
Brriier. You're ready to pull the
46:44
trigger in that deal. And Toronto is
46:46
insisting on one of your young studs,
46:50
Mishkov or Martone.
46:53
>> Which one you going with?
46:55
>> Which one? Which one am I keeping?
46:56
>> Which one are you trading? Which one you
46:58
keeping?
47:02
>> Are you ready?
47:07
>> I'm trading Matt Fishkov.
47:09
>> I thought you were going to say that and
47:11
I understand why. I I love our dear Matt
47:14
Vy.
47:15
>> I love him.
47:15
>> He's my own son. I I love him like a
47:17
son. But I do understand why and it's I
47:22
think a lot of the intangibles that
47:25
Porter Martone has shown in this college
47:27
year and in World Juniors and everything
47:31
and also just that desperate need for a
47:33
center and also just the log jam at
47:34
wing. You know, I think Mat Mishkov is
47:36
undeniably a special player. But I if
47:40
you asked me today if I had to, which I
47:43
I don't want to, but if you are trading
47:46
for a number one center, an undeniable
47:48
number one center, who How old is uh Mr.
47:51
Matthews at this point? Mr. Matthews? Oh
47:53
my god, I could do Mr. Feny voice. Uh
47:57
>> 28, actually.
47:59
>> He he turns 29, I believe. Uh that's
48:01
right. He turns 29 at the beginning of
48:03
next season.
48:04
>> He's a September baby. So there you go.
48:06
So to get a guy who's in his prime, you
48:09
know, that is a number one center, you
48:10
probably do have to give up one of your
48:12
special young players. And it it
48:14
absolutely sucks. But I think given
48:19
the issues that maybe some of the staff
48:22
has with Mate, which I think is [Β __Β ]
48:24
up and I hate uh given
48:29
I guess maybe just like I don't know how
48:32
feels today versus Mishkov in his
48:34
sophomore year. It feels like the play.
48:36
I could change my mind tomorrow on that
48:37
to be honest because I really love both
48:39
these players and I can't wait to see
48:41
them on the ice together. But
48:44
between the fact that you need centers,
48:46
uh, you have a log jam at wing and I
48:50
just really like a lot of what I've seen
48:52
from Marton in this college year. You
48:54
know, it feels like today Marton's the
48:57
guy, but again, I could change my mind
48:59
if Mishkov does something special
49:00
against the Wild tonight and I'll be
49:02
like, "No, it's Mishkov." Because he is
49:04
like they're both special players in my
49:06
opinion. I think they're both definitely
49:07
special players. But if you're going to
49:10
make a big trade and you are going above
49:12
like I think if you're going for Robert
49:14
Thomas, you'd be foolish to give up one
49:16
of those guys. And I think Robert Thomas
49:18
is a I like Robert Thomas. I think
49:20
Robert Thomas would be a really good
49:22
play to go for your 1C, but Robert
49:24
Thomas is not a guy that you give up a a
49:26
Meechoff or a Martone for.
49:32
It's it's hard to even have this
49:34
discussion because we still haven't seen
49:37
um Matt Vishkov at his best yet. I feel
49:40
like like I I know we haven't like I
49:42
know and I know his rookie season was
49:44
dazzling. Uh this season has not been
49:46
and it's you know you can say oh he came
49:49
into camp out of shape that's on him.
49:51
Yes, it is on him. But, you know, at
49:53
some point, Rick Tocket,
49:56
my guy, you got to put your You got to
50:00
chill the [Β __Β ] out and just realize like
50:02
this is this is the crown jewel of the
50:04
rebuild. Play this kid. Play him on play
50:07
him where he's comfortable. Play him in
50:09
overtime. Like, what are you doing?
50:11
You've done
50:11
>> I've said this a few times. I've said
50:13
this a few times, but like when I
50:15
haven't been to the We're calling it the
50:18
Xbox now, right? I haven't been to the
50:20
Xbox a lot this season, but when I've
50:22
been there, the majority of the jerseys
50:26
I'm seeing on people are Mat Mishkov
50:28
jerseys.
50:29
>> Yeah. People love Mishko. They want to
50:31
see him play and they're not there to
50:34
see Rick Tocket, you know, they're not
50:36
there to see S. Like I had a
50:38
conversation with my dad the other day
50:40
and we were talking about like he was
50:42
like, "Ah, Mish Guff didn't get back on
50:43
defense." And I was like, and my dad's,
50:45
you know, pretty he's not he's not
50:47
overwhelmingly old school about this
50:49
stuff, but he can have some old school
50:50
tendencies. And I'm like, I said to him
50:52
like, I don't give a [Β __Β ] if he gets
50:54
back on defense. And I said the same
50:56
thing last year. Like, I'm not here to
50:58
watch him play defense. There are uh
51:01
four other guys out on the ice that can
51:03
play the defense there. He can
51:05
cherrypick all day like, you know, like
51:07
rookie ovetkin and [Β __Β ] I don't care. I
51:10
want him to get goals. I want to see him
51:12
do exciting plays. The best play I've
51:14
seen him do this year was that overtime
51:16
goal against the Rangers, which he
51:18
pretty much had to set himself up for
51:20
success there by taking a penalty to be
51:22
in the box.
51:24
>> Yeah. Yeah. And listen, like look at
51:26
Patrick Kane, you know, like there were
51:29
times during his, you know, reign of
51:32
terror with the Blackhawks where he was,
51:35
and I know plus minus is stupid, but
51:36
like there was one season he scored, you
51:39
know, 76 points in 82 games. Good season
51:41
from him. He was minus 20. Like
51:44
[laughter] then there was another year.
51:45
There was another year uh this is 2122.
51:48
92 points in 78 games minus 19. Like
51:54
>> I don't like honestly if you're gifted
51:56
offensively be gifted offensively. It
51:59
just kills me that Rick Tocket is trying
52:02
to be like no they have to learn to play
52:05
the right way. The right way is how
52:07
you're is how you're best at playing.
52:09
That's the right way. Play your [Β __Β ]
52:11
game. That's how I want you to play. If
52:13
your game is, you know, listen, I'm
52:16
gonna suck on defense, but I'm gonna
52:17
score lots of goals and I'm gonna set up
52:19
a lot of other guys for lots of goals,
52:21
then that's what it is. And I h it's my
52:23
job as the head coach to figure out how
52:27
to how to kind of mask that deficiency
52:30
or at least like make up for it
52:32
elsewhere. That's my job as the head
52:35
coach. My job as the head coach is not
52:36
to turn a hockey player into something
52:39
they're not. And that's what Rick
52:41
[Β __Β ] talking is doing. And it's
52:43
driving me crazy. He looks like that
52:46
[Β __Β ]
52:48
guy. Jesus. So I don't know.
52:50
>> [Β __Β ] guy. [laughter]
52:52
>> [Β __Β ] guy.
52:53
>> He's pissing me off, Steve. I can't
52:55
even. There are so many words I want to
52:57
say.
52:57
>> Upset.
52:58
>> I want to say so many things, but if I
53:01
do, it'll I'll get in trouble, and I
53:04
can't.
53:05
>> That's true. We don't want you in
53:06
trouble. We we don't want our dear Ryan
53:07
Quigley in trouble over here with uh
53:10
Taco's gonna come in like the Kool-Aid
53:11
man. [laughter]
53:12
>> Yeah. Uh speaking of the Xbox, uh
53:15
completely unrelated, Steve, did you
53:17
hear that uh the Halo series is now
53:20
coming to PlayStation?
53:22
>> Oh, wow. I did not hear that.
53:23
>> Are you aware of that? So, this
53:25
apparently happened months ago, and I
53:26
had no idea until this week.
53:28
>> I'm aware, but I I have a weird thing
53:32
that I'm I can't really play
53:34
first-person shooters. like I can't like
53:37
my brain isn't good at processing them
53:39
and playing in them. I don't know what
53:41
it is.
53:42
>> Yeah. So Halo was my Halo 3 in
53:45
particular was my game in like high
53:47
school and you know all that and uh
53:51
middle school and um I I I mean it's
53:55
just my game and I was really really
53:57
good at it and I'm very excited about
53:59
this uh because
54:02
>> one of the best video game series of all
54:03
time and then 343 Industries you pieces
54:06
of [Β __Β ] You ruined it. You killed it.
54:08
Bungie uh was way better than they were
54:11
for Halo. 343 can [Β __Β ] off. Uh but Halo
54:15
[laughter] Halo is coming back and it's
54:17
coming to the PlayStation 5 and I am
54:19
very giddy about it.
54:21
>> Oh, hell yeah. I love that. And uh I'm
54:23
excited because I'm gonna have time to
54:26
play video games again because oh baby,
54:30
it has been a couple years. It has been
54:33
a while, but your boy is finally done
54:38
with his stupid MBA. It's finally done
54:42
for. I I'll get the degree in a couple
54:44
months. I've taken my last class and I
54:48
am very stoked about it.
54:51
>> Congratulations. There we go.
54:53
>> I thought that was going to be the one
54:55
and instead that's just a regular air
54:56
horn. For a moment, I thought that that
54:59
was Taps, the military funeral song.
55:06
>> That was my free time when I took on
55:08
grad school is what happened. I was
55:10
trying to do the it didn't happen. Very
55:12
flybally to have that big fail there.
55:14
So,
55:15
>> well, Steve, you missed out you missed
55:16
out on a terrific opportunity to uh use
55:19
the Hamhorn app. This podcast is not
55:22
sponsored by the Ham Horn app, but
55:24
there's an app called the Ham Horn and
55:26
all it is, you open it up and there's a
55:28
button with a little horn on it and you
55:30
tap it and then it goes
55:34
>> I used to have a couple of apps like
55:36
that. I I miss the uh the more simple
55:38
days of apps like that. So, the ham horn
55:40
is what it's called.
55:41
>> Yep. The ham horn. I could also just
55:44
bake it into the actual like we do this
55:46
on Streamyard and they have a ton
55:48
[laughter] of a ton of different sounds
55:50
that I could put in and I just didn't
55:52
put it in. So like I
55:55
think I have a gong here.
55:57
>> I have that. Yeah.
56:01
>> Sure.
56:04
>> This is a good one. Yeah. Okay. Thank
56:06
you. Thank you. I' I've finished uh the
56:08
NBA. So there you go. But yes, I I am
56:11
stoked. I have gone back to school in my
56:13
early 40s and uh it's finally over. Uh
56:16
no more citations.
56:18
Jesus Christ. No more group projects. Oh
56:22
my god. I'm I'm I'm very happy to be
56:25
>> I legit love this for you because I know
56:27
that this has just been a pain in your
56:29
ass and it's over. You did it.
56:31
>> It's over. It's over. Thank god it's
56:33
over. That's There's been a multitude of
56:36
reasons that we've done a lot less this
56:39
year. Um, it's a little bit of, uh, you
56:42
know, a little bit of me doing so many
56:45
PHYS, a little bit of just general
56:47
unavailability between our two
56:49
schedules, and then some of it's me just
56:51
being burned out from doing school
56:53
again. So, I'm very happy to have a
56:56
little bit of that mental capacity back.
56:57
It's It's very nice to be here. And uh
57:00
yeah, I started playing I started
57:02
playing uh Zelda Tears of the Kingdom
57:06
during December, but then I took a break
57:09
to finish my last class. So uh I will be
57:11
diving right back into that uh probably
57:15
next week or the week after. So that's
57:17
uh that's very exciting to get back into
57:18
that.
57:19
>> I am currently playing God of War
57:20
Ragnarok. So that's
57:22
>> I love Ragnarok. Is this your first time
57:23
through Ragnarok?
57:24
>> Yes, it is. I've never
57:26
>> Oh, hell yeah. Oh, Ragnarok's great.
57:28
Yeah, I I love Rag.
57:30
>> Hell yeah.
57:31
>> Another reason why we haven't been doing
57:33
as many flyeries, uh because I can't let
57:35
Steve put all the blame on himself. My
57:37
schedule has been crazy because uh your
57:39
boy has uh officially stopped
57:41
prioritizing sports media. Uh it is very
57:44
[laughter]
57:44
it is very freeing not uh being in that
57:49
um that uh that realm as much as I was.
57:52
Now I'm just doing it strictly when I
57:54
want to, which is great. Um, I'll tell
57:57
you what, having work life balance and a
58:00
social life and being able to cook a
58:04
meal. Wow.
58:06
>> Oh, wow.
58:07
>> Talk about ecstasy.
58:09
>> There you go. That's living right there.
58:10
And, you know, we're not going to let
58:12
the Flyers hold us back from living.
58:14
>> No, I will not let this team do this to
58:16
me.
58:17
>> No, don't let this team do this to you
58:18
either, folks.
58:19
>> This team is not worth it. Like if
58:21
honestly if this team is affecting you
58:23
to the point where it's really like
58:25
impacting your mental health,
58:27
>> my guy, my brothers and sisters, get out
58:30
of there. Get out of the house. Leave
58:32
the door. Just go out and do something.
58:35
That's not
58:36
>> Walk the dog. Do something.
58:38
>> Yeah, they it's this team in its current
58:40
form. Not worth it. Sorry, Flyers. I'm
58:42
sure you're listening. I don't care.
58:44
You're not worth it right now. Make a
58:45
trade, Frost Matthews. Thank you. So
58:48
>> there you go. Perfectly said right
58:49
there. What a what a great note to to
58:52
leave it off on. I think that's a
58:53
perfect note to to end things on right
58:55
there. But uh good getting back in the
58:57
saddle with you today, Quickster. And uh
58:59
who knows?
59:00
>> Yeah, good episode. Good talk. But uh
59:03
all right, cool. Well, we're going to
59:05
head on out of here. If you have any uh
59:06
feedback for us on social media, you
59:08
hear it on every episode, but it's
59:10
flyerly. I'm on Blue Sky. [Β __Β ] Twitter.
59:12
Not doing that. Uh he's Ryan Quigs.
59:14
Cool. With his ed. Great.
59:16
>> Tim or Jesus, Tim. That's my brother's
59:19
name. Steve, we have a we have an
59:21
emergency.
59:22
>> Oh,
59:23
>> Alex Bump's family has traveled to
59:26
Minnesota.
59:27
>> Oh, I love the Bump family.
59:29
>> This first came
59:32
this media.
59:33
>> They are wearing bump uh shirts in along
59:37
the glass. One person is wearing a B,
59:39
the other one is wearing a U. The other
59:41
is an M and another's a P. The bumps are
59:44
there, Steve.
59:45
>> The the bumps have landed. The bumps are
59:47
in the building. Well, I can share this
59:49
real quick. And uh Oh, wait. No, it's a
59:51
video file. I did it wrong. Oh, it's my
59:53
first time doing a podcast. Uh,
59:56
I'm rusty. I I've had Brena doing all
59:59
the work for me and she's just the best.
1:00:01
So, uh Oh, that's just Bam Marggera and
1:00:03
Bill Garin again.
1:00:04
>> Uh, let's remove that.
1:00:06
>> There we go. There it is.
1:00:09
>> Look at that. [laughter]
1:00:11
>> His first game was in Pittsburgh, right?
1:00:13
and the whole bump. I think like his
1:00:16
entire extended family was there wearing
1:00:18
orange in the section. He's like, "Yeah,
1:00:20
I saw him out there."
1:00:22
>> Yeah. Yeah. It rocks that they're all uh
1:00:26
you know that his his family seems
1:00:28
awesome. I mean, just the support
1:00:30
they're giving him. It's great. We love
1:00:32
that.
1:00:33
>> Good [Β __Β ] right there. So, yeah, the
1:00:34
Bump family rocks and we've really
1:00:36
enjoyed what we saw from Alex. Even uh
1:00:38
when he missed an empty net by like a
1:00:41
foot last night [laughter] against the
1:00:43
Capitals.
1:00:44
>> Yeah,
1:00:45
>> that was really funny. He was at center
1:00:46
ice. HE'S LIKE, I'M GOING FOR IT. And he
1:00:49
missed by like a foot or two.
1:00:51
>> I forgive him. His sins are paid for.
1:00:54
>> I'm loving Alex Bump right now. I'm
1:00:56
loving Denver Barky. I am liking the
1:00:58
young guys on this team. And Brucey's
1:01:00
liking it, too, because he just gave me
1:01:01
a little wrap it up jackass bark there.
1:01:04
>> Woof.
1:01:06
>> Woof. Can we bark? Can we say Can we say
1:01:09
let's go Flyers?
1:01:11
>> Let's go Flyers.
1:01:12
>> He's Don't say that.
1:01:13
>> Let's go Flyers.
1:01:15
>> Don't say that, Bruce.
1:01:16
>> Go Birds.
1:01:18
>> Go Birds. All right, [Β __Β ] it. Uh,
1:01:21
[laughter] all right. Uh, Ryan Quigs
1:01:23
with his head on, uh, Blue Sky. Cool.
1:01:24
Uh, and Twitter. Great. Uh, you can
1:01:26
follow Fly Berbo on Instagram and Tik
1:01:28
Tok and Broad Street Hockey on a whole
1:01:30
bunch of stuff. So, cool, cool, cool. We
1:01:32
love you guys and until next time, in
1:01:34
the words of the great Gene Hart, good
1:01:36
night and
1:01:37
good hockey.
1:01:42
Oh wow.
1:01:44
Nothing. I got nothing.