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Food Mac with seven wonders 11 minutes P 5 Mainland Spain 11 minutes 4 in the UK
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and the canaries joining us is Bay radio International's new US correspondent and
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Rich Reynolds is here smile on your face every time I've said that this I love it you do I love being a an international
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correspondent it's an international Man of Mystery thank you K you're you're loving being back in a radio Studio
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aren't you I do it's been a couple years since I've been on a radio station so sure I love it we've told the audience a
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little bit about you on our Facebook page but um you could perhaps Enlighten us on the on air tell us where you're
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from um originally I was uh born and raised in uh in New York um most
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specifically out on Long Island so I'm a Long Island Boy and then uh when I was uh in uh when I was in uh College I went
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to college in the Midwest and then I lived for the last 20 21 years on the
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west coast in Portland Oregon so I consider myself an Oregonian uh to a to
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a great deal so I moved around I worked at a lot of television station a lot of radio stations so we moved around quite
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a bit I lived in New York and I lived in I lived in uh Richmond Virginia I lived
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in St Louis I lived in New Orleans where I met my uh beautiful wife um so yeah
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moved around quite a bit I'm a gypsy like you you know so these days Valencia why Spain five years ago yeah five years
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ago uh you know it's kind of funny that my wife's job ended at the same time my job ended you know it's one of these
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things where they started to phase people out and uh I remember we'd sit there and she'd go oh they eliminated
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this job or that job and now they're moving everything to a different city we've got AI to come it's going to get us old I knew it was like it was like
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watching a Title Wave come in and you're you're seeing that wave out there and it starts coming in and so we finally said
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uh we got to you know look at making some moves here and we had visited Spain and we really loved it so we thought well why don't why don't we sell
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everything that we own our car our house and uh and away we go and that's what we
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did 5 years ago so yeah how difficult was that I there were we were just going through the numbers weren't we of of
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American expats in Spain and we know there's about 40,000 mostly centered in
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Madrid but we found a top five which said Barcelona actually top then Madrid then Valencia Malaga and Seva so you're
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Valencia there then is the third biggest what what is the bar the the Valencia number uh I I didn't didn't come up
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there but um yeah we'll find it um but it was that was basically the order of how many American expats are in Spain so
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what is it what what you said you've been here on holiday and you liked it what what brings them it's not easy to
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do because you know just like Britain these days now we're not in the EU a third country moving to somewhere in
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Europe isn't straightforward is it no it isn't and and we had to go through uh every every uh major city in uh in
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America has a uh they have an embassy
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and so we went through the one in San Francisco and we applied through their website and then we we had to go and and
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talk to the people provide the fact that we had certain amount of money because we all know you have to if you're an
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expat you have to have money to live here you can't just going hey look I'm here I'm cool guy oh come on
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in we wanted more cool guys cool Americans coming in but in in this case
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uh we had to sell sell our house sell everything we owned uh spend a lot of time in thrift thrift stores giving our
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stuff away uh our daughter was uh uh uh was entering college at the time so that
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was a little oh I take that back that she no she had just graduated from college so she was that that's a whole
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different thing of course she's still in New York she's still in New York a long way she is she is but when you know when we were living in Portland it was a
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6-hour flight and living here it's a what 7even eight hour flight so it's not
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it's not a great distance but she did uh she did uh wasn't really happy that that
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her parents were moving and and she's our only child so uh but she's a you know she's a fully formed adult working
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she works in the art industry she works at a gallery in uh in Manhattan so we
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thought you know there comes a point in your life where you look at it and you go should I make the leap if I I don't
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do it now how long how long the people oh oh I'm I'm really amazed that you made this leap and I said well you know
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you could do it too oh no oh oh no I got grandchildren and stuff I don't have grandchildren but I looked at it and
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said I said never know that I know of I said but this I said life's an adventure
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right look same thing for you or anybody else life is an adventure if you don't take advantage of it but some people
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just don't it doesn't appeal to them I have a brother in New York uh two brothers as a matter of fact and neither
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of them travel they don't if they were to travel more than 30 miles it'd be amazing but this is we've heard this
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about people in America who don't actually have a passport because they don't need one yeah they just don't
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travel that far if they go anywhere it's not far out of state M incredible why
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then Spain because I know you said you've been here but a lot of Americans have their roots in Europe don't they
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and we've been talking in the studio well you know before you've come on air about how your family are from the UK
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and from Germany actually right at you know postwar immediate postwar Germany
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um so why not perhaps Germany or UK somewhere that was more closer to your roots I liked UK and I like the the
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possibility but when it happened what was going on was brexit and it it didn't it didn't look like a healthy thing and
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I remember we moved here during breakfast uh cuz we've been here 5 years and when it was happening we saw all
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these Brits running around with their hair on fire what am I going to do my summer home and I you know how's it
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going to affect my taxes and how's it going to affect this and we said man I don't want any part of this but but
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another thing is if you live in Oregon as we did it's cold damp every day and
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we would go 6 months without seeing the Sun and if I go to Eng land same thing
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same thing and why do I why do I want to trade but when we came here it was sun was out the economy was not not great
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but we you know we had enough money where we could well the dollar was good post inter the international financial crisis
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the dollar was all right coming out that wasn't it yeah yeah no that wasn't a problem but we looked at and we said it was we really like the weather we love
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the people we found out there were a lot of Americans here there a lot of Brits here language is not and we had to speak
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learn how to speak Spanish which which we've we've actually only speak Spanish I know
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that's true but my family my family on my mother's side comes from Britain I'm a second generation American they came
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from London and my father's side came from northern Germany near not far from where I used to live
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yeah it's a it's a great area but also cold damp rainy so we looked at
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everything and we said you know this sounds this sounds pretty good it it sounded pretty good and and if it didn't
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work out uh we looked at we looked at bar Barcelona but Barcelona very expensive there's the whole catalon
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thing you know the language is a problem there it's it's a little bit unsettled um and certainly it was if you go a bit
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further back it really was right at the time when it was unsettled where they had the um well it's okay now that they
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had the referendum there's the you know we're all friends again apparently well some people are I know but but I love
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traveling uh all around Europe and it's a great it's a great location if you're going to travel to live on uh in this
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part of the this part of the world a little bit more about you then okay you spent all of that time from 17 working in radio and TV yeah amazing what got
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you into TV at the or radio at the beginning Oh it sounded like it was great fun on top of that I'm a classic
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introvert I'm very introverted I don't I don't like talking to people personally
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you know face to face you know if I have to sit and hold a account this is when I was younger I'm I'm I'm certainly better
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about it now but when I when I went to work in radio I could sit in the room and I could broadcast and play music
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it's great isn't it you're in a box you can close your eyes do what you want it was just great it was great and my mother said where are you going to find
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somebody to let you play Records On Air who's going to pay you to do that this sounds familiar yeah and so that and that was a
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and I enjoyed it so much and I said boy I could I could work in chemistry I could work as a mathematician I could do
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a lot of things but when I look at this I go this is so much and when I did it
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for the first week I said did you walk right in on air or were you having to do like T boy and all the rest of it oh no
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no no they threw me into it yeah oh my oh my I I don't have any air checks in my first couple of shifts but oh it was
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horrible it was just a train did I and I have mine I stepped on I stepped on more
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vocals than Gulliver are you kidding oh boy it was nasty and you went on from uh
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well I guess as part of the uh same time as being a stage actor a director a TV
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sitcom writer in Hollywood so this part of the screenwriters girl to just
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working again I was in the street I was in the screenwriters Guild and I uh I did vote for the Oscars in
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1978 um and uh I worked as a writer's
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assistant for a bunch of American sitcoms like Happy Days a show called James at 15 uh but I was a writer's assistant so
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I was a little more big room full of people around a big table Yeah but they didn't really I I was 25 26 years old I
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didn't pay attention you know I wasn't one of the bright shining lights it's just a job I got so Henry Henry Winkler
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wasn't like next door you know what's funny about Henry but I I met him a few times and then I I met him about 10
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years ago at an event and I was the only one there it was me and him and I was
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sitting there and and it was well known in the business that if you talk to Henry he was a sweet guy he's a very
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sweet guy and he is as nice as people think he is you don't mention foni you
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don't say Fon you don't say F that was it you said you don't talk about Fonzi to him it just not when and he used to I
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I don't know if did if if the show played in the UK we had a show called Hollywood Squares okay all right we have
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a similar we have an equivalent okay a show called a game show called Hollywood Squares that came back it it it was it
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ran in the 60s and 70s and then suddenly it came back Henry Winkler was the producer of that show so when you didn't
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see him a lot as an actor he was behind the scenes he was producing the show so when I met him it was part of Hollywood
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Square so shows up he never appeared on the show so he he showed up and he and I are sitting in this room and I had the
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whole thing in my head I'm going and he doesn't remember me from the 70s it was years ago I'm sitting there going don't
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talk about fonie don't talk about fonie don't talk about and I saw him and I start talking about his stage work
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because he had just finished a show in New York and I said hey and and he um you know John Ritter the actor he and
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John Ritter were best friends and I started off by talking to him and Ritter had just died like a week
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before so we started talking about John rid and we start well it's like I handed him money you know he goes oh yeah I
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said I bet the show you were in it was a Neil Simon show it was just great I hear and you got great oh I love to know when
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I you know when I showed up at the stage and he started talk he really opened up so these guys love talking about their stage but he didn't want to talk about
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Fonzi but now oh now he's okay with it but he went through a period from what I understand
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because I I I wonder I suppose what you've heard from certain actors where they say I just don't want to be known for that that's right you know that's
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right but do other stuff don't talk about anything else I've done this is what this is why everybody comes to you
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this is all they want to talk about it's your radio show but you're more than that aren't you we never talk about this
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everybody else is far more interesting B radio Internationals new US correspondent everybody Rich Reynolds
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is with us we'll be talking more after the break here on Bay radio International you're listening to Bay
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radio Gordon who also lives in Valencia where you live has been talking about how good the restaurants are oh oh I
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love the restaurants there and they're not expensive but we have seen the cost of the menu Dela go up quite a bit since
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especially since uh Co um but you can still get a good meal for 10 12 you know
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which is awfully good I mean you can't get that in the states uh I uh I was back there for a wedding uh my niece got
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married back in December and we went to a plain old Diner just a just regular
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generic American food hamburgers hot dogs surf and turf surf and turf that sort of thing love that love that stuff
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and we you know for three or four of us we drop $150 around $150 you know it's
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just too much it's just too much it's so expensive to live there anymore and so it is cheaper to live in Spain than the
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us about half about half cost half yeah how do people live in the states that's just incredible it's really incredible
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because you can uh the house the house that I lived in in Portland was uh we
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sold for at at you know a pretty nice profit uh after 20 years of course but
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uh you know the average cost in in the city like Portland which is a mediumsized city you could say it's
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around the uh 23rd 24th Market is uh 600
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$700,000 that's what you have to make a you know the average the average uh
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salary's got to be quarter of a million you know in a lot of well that's that's not Spain yeah it isn't it isn't you
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know by any stretch you know we just talking about the minimum wage in Spain going up to
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15,600 something yeah you know yeah so it's it's zeros I know a lot of zeros
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but it's a case where you can live here a lot better and a lot better life so
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well we're very glad to have you here and very lucky in fact especially with you know heading into this election year
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uh so we'll be is there an election we'll be proving your on mind um to try and explain to us um other uh
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unknowledgeable xats about exactly what um happens and how the whole thing works
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we've been hearing these screaming headlines big win for Trump in Iowa how big was this win I'll tell you what he
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got 59% of the vote that's a massive amount that sounds like a lot that's a massive amount and he got a grand total
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of 59,000 votes that's itang 59,000 votes is 59% of the vote that's right
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there are 100,000 people that voted in the state of Iowa 15% only 15% voted only 15% voted now
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everybody knows about the weather it was well he was saying that right at the beginning he always likes to have an excuse beforehand obviously and you know
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what he he would have a point but it was like 40 below Fahrenheit I don't even know what
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that is in centigrade but it was cold cold cold and those people couldn't move so take that with a grain of salt that
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that yeah it was a big victory it was the largest victory in the history of
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the Iowa primary okay so it is a big victory though it was a big victory uh uh Ronda sanis got 21% Nikki Haley got 9
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19% yeah and they both but Nikki Haley was also claiming she had a victory oh we're on the right track and more than
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she was expecting mean she got more than she expected so it's it's it's Trump's it's his to lose going forward
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but there are still you ready there are 54 more primaries 50 now there are 50
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states but also the District of columia and Guam and they all have primaries and
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now okay so they're not they're not they're not the candidates are not going to be going to Guam they'll be doing
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that all they'll be literally phoning it in well actually face it Trump hasn't gone anywhere either has he has he well
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and he went to yeah he went to he did go to Iowa and then he canceled a bunch of his appearances that's right um and and
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he was heading off to the next one um but he's he's made a court stop um because he's he's in court for one of
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there are so many different things that that they're chasing him for at the moment and I've lost it for the for the moment but anyway um so he is going off
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to the next one if you could just explain to us what is a caucus because we've heard this word being thrown around it's not one we use in Britain
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there are only four states in the United States that have caucuses uh Iowa is one of them and Iowa wanted to be first it's
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in their constitution that they have to be first it's in nobody else's Constitution but Iowa is really it's
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important to them that they were first but you need to know this is not a homogeneous State this is a state that
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is 95% white uh very very little minority voting uh very little Hispanic
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voting um and the same thing in a different way with New Hampshire which is second these are states I mean there
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there are 3 million people who live in Iowa out of 331 million it's a small
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small state and and uh um
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uh uh New Hampshire is even smaller and so it's going to be an even smaller sample what so he's going to go to New
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Hampshire is that because he doesn't feel he has as much support as you might have otherwise he doesn't have as much support and Nikki haly has a real chance
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to to overtake him uh um uh Des sandz is completely passing on campaigning there
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he's completely giving it up so they make their minds up kind of like I know where it's worth going I know where it isn't and like you say this primary
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system so there there are 54 primaries that you said 5 Primm 55 primaries and
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keep in mind the Democrats also have 55 primaries so if you go down between does
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that mean like election rally is that what it it is it's it's like a rally so if you look at each state each state
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individually has its own election okay for each for each uh uh party the the
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thing is this year because of Democrats have their their their guy chosen it's
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going to be Joe Biden nobody else is going to contest him because that's decorum you don't you don't I don't say
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you don't but it's bad form to go and run against an incumbent and he wouldn't
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get any support from the party he would get any or if I stood up and said you know what I'm going to run against you Joe because you're too old the the the
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Democratic party would say they would do what they could to make sure I didn't even get a sing I mean that's got to be a worry though because he is old and and
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does come across is somewhat infirm at times he is you know and it's it's a bit of a problem and is uh were talking U
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off air I think that the whole idea of age you can't get around it nothing you do you could I could I could I could
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swing as much as I could to to make you look like oh you're you're too tall
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you're too short it because that's all perception but 80 81 years old and when you're going to be 86 when you leave
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office well folks I mean I can't get around that and the minute somebody starts talking about age that's like a
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snowball running downhill that's America they seem to be quite Cutthroat in politics generally but nobody they're
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not the opposite side aren't really going for that at the moment I mean I guess it's only a matter of time before Donald Trump will jump in there again
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with it yeah um because he will he will he definitely will and if that's if that's the guy you want if that's the
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sort of cutthroat uh way to do things and calling people names that that's his Mo
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that's what he likes to do uh you'll find that that doesn't really happen among people in the Democratic party I
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mean the Republican party is the party of of uh legalized uh uh I'm sorry
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illegal abortions they're the the party of uh big business small government um
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you know things like that um eliminating health care that's a a big thing they
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want to eliminate Health Obamacare was a big thing they want to get rid of Obamacare well my daughter was on Obamacare and I got to tell you
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something she it's because of Obamacare that she was healthy but if you know Trump actually stands up and says I want
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to eliminate Obama Obamacare so how many Americans don't have Healthcare I think it's around 15 million that's a lot oh
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my God that is actually a you don't don't hold me to that number but I think I think it's around 15 million but the
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thing is that that the American system you run for president for about two years so that's an awful long time Nikki
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Haley has been running for president for a year already for a year Joe Biden's been running for a year um yeah it's a
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long time and yeah is out in out in out ahead in the in the polls he's way ahead
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he's way ahead and matter of fact the other two might as well say and I'm not I'm not advocating for anything they
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ought to just go you know I give up cuz between the two of them the two the people came in
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second Nikki Haley and Ronda sis they came in they spent I I think I read a
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$200 million it cost wasn't it to run so they could come in second 200 million to come in second and I don't think he
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spent I don't think Donald Trump spent much of anything cuz he just go to these rallies and he stands up and he goes
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that's it that's it puts on his hat make America great power it's the power of there SE I've seen a great a great hat
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um just that one of my friends had and it was exactly the same the Red Cap make America Great Britain again which it's
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going way back there we're not going to go that far back was that during Churchill there was
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it was the last time he ran actually when he became president there was a but it well sorry yes when when when no it was way before Churchill when um when
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America was British a long long time ago that long ago even much further I think I saw that that painting exactly there
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were no cameras in those days at all so um I know we're going to you know we'll play it straight down the line and talk
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about both sides of the political persuasion but interestingly as I understand it in the states depends
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which state you come from depends on whether you're democrat or republican generally it does and it's the same pretty much in households you know and
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yet in your household you and your brother are completely different sides of the how did that happen they are and
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as a matter of fact I my brother and I try not to talk about politics and he uh he crossed that line
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about a week ago when he called me up and he started going off on kamla Harris and how she's not keeping the Border
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safe well that was the first thing I said to you wasn't it we haven't really heard from her we haven't heard about her no she's kept a really low profile
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and I think she better be she better be getting busy and she will be running for vice president then she will be she will
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she will it won't be anybody else it would be a major we know already if it work if suddenly you're they they pick
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you as the vice president or me it would be would be an amazing thing but yeah she's going to be she'll be the other uh
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she'll be running with Joe and why do you think we haven't heard much about her what's the reasoning behind that because surely the party decide how
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high-profile the vice president is to be and of course the wall you know the Border issue which has stopped things
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like money going to Israel and Ukraine um while they fight it out you know in
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on Capitol Hill um what what she has she done anything with the wall well with
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the wall or with the Border I mean we just don't hear about it she's made a periodic appearances down there but not
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a lot and I'm I'm just kind of surprised that we are you know if you're in
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another country where you only start running for office a month out or two months out that's one thing but this
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is America where you're running two years out I mean she really needs to be about it she really needs to be sticking
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her her footprint in there to say Hey you know this this ticket this you know
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Joe and I have done good things I'm sure it's not an individual choice is it I mean it must be the party making that choice to Joe in the in the spotlight
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maybe because they're worried that he you know he might be failing somewhat in the polls from what they would expect so they need to keep his profile up and
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they keep her in the background perhaps I don't know yeah anyway we'll talk more uh American politics it's a big year and
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we'll look at the international uh scene after the break with Rich Reynolds here on Bay radio
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International you're listening to Bay radio Bay radio International Rich
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rynolds our new US correspondent with us this after afternoon we've been talking about the political system in the United
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States and it depends on what which channel you watch as to what political view you get they they're they're not
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unbiased are they they're they are completely biased for one or the other Republican or Democrat they try not to
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be but but it it it inadvertently Falls that way and you have fox fox uh on the
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far right and you have MSNBC CNB uh not CN CNN and also uh then
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you have the mainstream networks ABC CBS uh NBC kind of they they try to play it
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right down the middle but inadvertently when you know Trump does stupid things uh which which happens he does send to
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say outrageous things uh you know Fox they apologize for him or they don't run
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the story there are a lot of a lot of things that happen where he's done something kind of foolish it doesn't
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appear but if Joe Biden slips y all of a sudden it appears on Fox or mumbles or
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mumbles but you say actually had did have a speech impediment he does have a speech impediment he has and he admits that he was a stutterer when he was a
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child you know I'm I'm not a friend of his I don't I've never met him or anything but but I have read that he did
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have an impediment uh and and Trump will make fun of that the fact that he stutters and I go well who would do that
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you don't make fun of well that's Trump well that's that's TR I I imagine then if you only get a bias view from
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whichever Channel you watch whichever State you come from which whatever you're hearing in whichever family it's the bubble it's you are in that
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particular which we've talked about actually you know since likes of Facebook people are only in one place
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you know it's them and their like-minded France so this is very similar to the way that politics play out um for the
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individual in in the States but I guess then that has an effect on the international stage as well because then they'll only hear What that particular
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TV or radio station wants them to hear about the international stories that's correct I mean there's there's no way
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around that uh it's it's got to be true in in in the UK it's got to be true in
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uh in uh uh a Balkan country it's got to be true in Germany and France and you've
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got certain Outlets that that want to make I'm not saying that UK media isn't bias because it is slightly slewed in
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different ways but you know not nothing quite compared to you know the difference between Fox and CNN um so how
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how are the things being played out in the United States because you do watch a lot of um American TV as far as the
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first of all that Aid to Israel and Ukraine which has been halted by Congress because of the issues that
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people have with the problem at the border not being sorted out um with Mexico well the Republican Party would
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like to uh and and as people may know there is a a little bit more the
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Republicans have slightly more than 50% Edge in Congress and that means that all
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of they all of them will vote for uh to withhold Aid to Israel
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to uh Ukraine because there are a lot of Americans on that side who are very
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conservative who think we really need to help these countries but big but begin
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to hurt how it's beginning to hurt and how much can we do this should the money be better spent uh On the Border where
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it is I don't care if you are a Republican or Democrat we would you have to stand there and look at it every day
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and say what can we do to stop this it's there's a major influx from South America isn't there the city of New York
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the city of New York had 150,000 people well they started to bust people in from the border to make the point so you know
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because initially much like southern Europe where you know migration was coming into the southern part of of the
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country that was happening in the United States and and and I I'm not quite sure of the well I'm get into the Rights and
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Wrongs of it but they did start to do that to make New York realize what it was that was going on busing people up
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that's true and what are you I'm I'm sure that you and others have heard the term Sanctuary cities and Sanctuary
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cities are cities that are very liberal they're very Democratic who have said uh
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we will take your tired you're poor your huddled masses yearning to breef free and and and that's okay you can come
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here if you're running from from gangs in South America if you're trying to escape a bad for you and your family
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will take you in they may not take you in Dallas or Houston but New York San Francisco Portland uh um I don't know
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what some of the other cities would be a lot of them are on the west coast we take your is that because they need workers because they they do need an
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influx of new blood is is it because of that do you think because that's certainly what happened in Germany you know a few years back yeah a lot of
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those but a lot of the states that don't want uh uh people coming in from other
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countries especially illegally these are these are agrarian States like Iowa like
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Nebraska I mean these are places that depend heavily on Farm Workers you know
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they they these are these are states where the the main crop is corn
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soybeans um tomatoes that sort of thing and they need people to pick the crops no white people picking these crops
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they're all brown people you know and and you know they they need that but
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they don't want to pay for these people to come in they don't want these people I'm seeing the the Royal they I
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understand you know I I I'm not I don't want to speak for everybody but there are a lot of people who don't want they
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they want their crops picked they just don't want for people to command we have a phrase in Britain nimi not in my
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backyard you know it's kind of we agree with it but we don't want people here it's you know very difficult situation
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uh what about this conflict then um Iran basically behind what's been happening
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using Israel uh and Hamas as an excuse but you know the issues with the seis
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Iran Yemen uh these Goods not getting through ultimately for the whole of the world it's an issue as far as finances
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are concerned we've just been through you know the Pand mic where we saw the rise in Daily food costs and the like
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the cost of living crisis this is going to make it worse it is going to make it worse and I don't know what the solution is but they sank one of the one of the
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boats was it yesterday uh in the canal and that's you to say nothing of how that's going to hold up uh uh traffic in
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the there's been another strike on the hoties this afternoon actually um it wasn't a planned one apparently it was
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just they saw an opportunity where um a militant group that had been targeting vessels uh uh they could do something
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and it resulted in a direct hit apparently so this is what they were uh were doing well it's it's it's clearly
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going to get worse before it gets better uh and I think once the US military gets involved and and the UK and and the
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British military know coition yeah well we call it the special relationship I'm
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not quite sure what you call it in in in the States oh we're bullying you you're telling us what to do we telling you
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what to do us I mean I'm not I'm a little bit a little ashamed of that but it's like these are our good friends the
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Americans we're going yeah sit over there yeah you know it's uh but but I think it's going but nobody else though
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again hang on not there were people supporting that action in slightly different ways but not actually putting their uh pilots and and seamen on the
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line um you know taking direct action oh my God and there's a whole history of
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that and it goes back to Vietnam it's it's the minute you say and and it's and
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it's Vietnam and it's uh the Gulf War and it's taking Americans and Afghan anistan it's taking American boys and
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girls and putting them out there and exactly and having them return in in boxes that that uh to say nothing about
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it being a bad thing uh it's it's just a it's a bad visual it's a bad bad Visual
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and I know that's a that's a clear way for Joe to lose this election is by saying okay we're going to go in there
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and we're going to we're going to send 100,000 troops into Yemen and and and mow these people down that's it's it's
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not good thing we're going to see on I I don't think anytime soon I'll tell you
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what not before the election no and and we'll come back to the election in in future weeks and it's great that you're
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going to be joining us every Tuesday well you said you would maybe after this you might not I don't know but I got running screaming been great but great
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uh good to talk to you rich Reynolds good to have you on the bay radio International thanks very much indeed for your time today thanks