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UFC 309 Immediate Reactions w/ UFC vets Jessica Penne and Angela Hill
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Jan 20, 2025
Jess was out in the field this weekend in Mississippi at the Gamebred Bare Knuckle MMA show but we still got you covered on our reactions to the huge PPV this weekend, this time brought to you IMMEDIATELY! Hope you enjoy these super raw takes and let us know what you thought about #UFC309 in the comments. 1:00 Jess wanted to punch people at the bar during Oliveira vs Chandler 7:08 Jones dismantles Stipe 13:37 Bo Nickal getting heat for not getting an amazing finish vs Craig 18:30 Silva vs Araujo 21:25 Ruffy vs Llontop 25:20 what are we doing here?? (It’s late) McGee vs Martinez 28:25 Jim F’in Miller was Jess’s favorite and for good reason 33:36 Tybura smashes and gets the TKO, was it a good stoppage? 37:15 Old gloves vs new gloves? Jess’s Gamebred adventure. 42:25 Ange fell into the trap of thinking her idol was going to beat Jake Paul against all circumstances… again. 48:12 Jess’s internet connection tells us to go to bed. Powered by Duelbits. Join us: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FaPU4wQCG9RdbNlMBI-fA/join
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what's up everyone this is a two straws UFC 309
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reaction video reaction video oh
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potato yes man what the hell so how did
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you enjoy UFC Trump Fest um you know what it reminded me why
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I always watch the from the comfort and sanctity of my own home because I dealt
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with craziness patrons drunk yelling obscenities especially especially during
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Chandler and Ola I wanted to fight everybody oh no what were they saying ah
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they were just they were cheering for Chandler in his um in his moments of
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saying [ __ ] it in the octagon and and throwing Olivera you know to the mat
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while he was um and punching backe yeah oh my gosh can we talk about
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that but first what were they saying that made you want to punch him because I want to punch him for
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you they they were just rooting for him like he was uh like he he was doing the
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right things it's um he was being a showman which I can appreciate because after all we are in an entertainment
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Sport and Chandler um if if he's nothing else he is great on the mic he's a great
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Entertainer but he um he wasn't putting it all on line to win
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he was putting it on the line to make a spectacle and entertain and at at that
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point he just needed to you know do what he had to do to finish the fight strong
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uh so it was just it was frustrating listening to everybody in the bar um just cheering
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aminities grab a stick and twist it like that kind of thing basically yeah just reminding me
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why I stay home most days yeah it's it's kind of nice to do it in the comfort of your home you don't have to worry about
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uh people saying things that have nothing to do with fighting or have
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nothing to do with lots of bottles broken people just being floppy oh man
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that sucks that sucks yeah luckily I was just at a little little fight party a little
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intimate fight party so nothing too dumb was said but but we were all kind of
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rooting for Al Vera it was the Jiu-Jitsu crew so everyone was rooting for Al Vera
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and uh that fight was pretty much like
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uh one-sided until that moment where he slipped and started getting hit in the
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back of the head repeatedly repeated unacknowledged by Keith Peterson might I
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add was he drunk was he smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol
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then what the hell we need to we need to go back to that Dom fight and see if there really is something there because
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if anything that fight showed that he was not on top of his p's and q's but usually usually he does well but that
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moment was really crazy you can see like the commentators and and everyone who
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wasn't actually saying something into the mic they're all like yo like why is this happening it was it was at least
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20 20 shots to the back of the head it at least and I I was at um a spot in the
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casino I'm I'm in Mississippi right now I'm at this uh spot watching at the sport bookie and I can't hear any
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commentary so I'm just I'm baffled by what's going on and it just didn't look
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like anybody was acknowledging it thank thank goodness that you know the commentary was on their p's and q's um
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because it was just it was hard to wash and it was it was really confusing um and not being able to hear the
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commentary not being able to hear like anything going on was was really frustrating yeah like people were
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freaking out and rightfully so um but luckily ala was able to recover he was
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able to get back on top take the back and just kind of chill there for a little bit not take too much damage and
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uh Rod out the rest of the round one thing I was debating because I was watching with jenet and uh when he kind
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of went okay buddy yeah you got it after he did the big two big dive bombs did
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you feel like he was tapping out or was he just like kind of patting them on the hand like
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yeah I feel like there was um just like a playful kind of uh banter between them
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there was um when I was on Twitter I went to the Dark World of Twitter and I saw that I know I I tweeted tonight it
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was very risky I saw you made the broadcast
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twice did I oh really I only saw the Jon Jones one but what what was the other one um I it was about the shots to the
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back of the head I said are are we not calling shots to the back of the head anymore and it's a fair question yes um
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but what I did see in the Twitter verse was that there was some playful um you
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know kind of interaction between Olivera and Chandler it was um I think it was the last round after Chandler just
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slammed him back to the ground and he like nuzzled him kissed him on the on the head oh yeah everyone's doing the
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morav now yeah so they had a moment I think you know Chandler did a great job
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of acknowledging his opponent and giving him the props that he deserve going into the fight which I personally like to see
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I like to see good sportsmanship um so it it carried on into the fight minus
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the shots to the back of the head I mean minus the shots to the back of the head minus the cage grabs and minus the hands
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in inside of the gloves it was a lot it was a lot minus all that yeah it was a
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good job good job by I was trying to let him slide on the rest of that stuff but
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you know I've kep my eye on him since the porier fight because he was all he
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was fish hooking he was doing the old school cheats that you never see anymore like grabing a fence you see that once a
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card you don't see fish hooking you don't see that he brought it back he
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brought it back he like yo they allow you to do all this stuff you can need
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people that are grounded now and you choose to Fish Hook well I guess he
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couldn't do that then but he was still doing the cheeky little uh glove grabs
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the entire time and it was pissing me off because I feel like uh olivea could have gotten to that sub if he wasn't doing that but like they say if you
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ain't cheating he ain't trying and the words of Tito Ortiz yes the wise the wise Tito
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Ortiz uh so so that was a banger that was definitely a banger and
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then how did you feel about Jones versus Stipe listen it it went how I expected
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it to go yeah you know um Jon Jones is
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he's he really is the goat inside the Octagon he just um is undeniable in the
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sense that people haven't been able to to do anything to him um to put him in
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dangerous spots he just walks through people he dismantles people as he did no
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shits tonight yeah yeah Stipe uh had so much trouble but he did better than I
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thought he would I think he did better than a lot of people thought he would like the way that he was able to get
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Jones kind of running he kind of pulled a Chandler a couple of times where he had him on the back foot he had to like
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almost turn and run away to get away from him uh the pressure was looking good every
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now and then a couple times it looked like he he hit him uh but it was literally one or two times uh it was
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really hard for Stipe to find his Mark um to to get in on Jones and Jones just
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kept stabbing him with the with the foot that foot stab over and over again hitting him with the jab uh just really
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straight and long he he did a good job of staying out of the clinch range which is where I thought Stipe might be able
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to land some of his like little inside boxing stuff um and then it just felt it
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looked so demeaning that immediate takedown that he got in the first round he like get oari
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was beautiful it was a beautiful beautiful throw he spun him like a
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turtle on a shell when he hit the ground that's how much momentum was going when
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he hit that throw and it just looked effortless it was really impressive so Jones Jones looks Danger ous at
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heavyweight but how do you see him going against Aspen so this fight needs to
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happen for me it just it has to happen there was there was so much
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buildup in the pre-fight presser where um Jon Jon is kind of laying into asol calling him a jerk and saying he doesn't
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want to do business with them and then you know thankfully Dana got in there and said hey if you're not going to
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retire you are going to fight Aspen I don't think there's any other fight that can happen besides this um and I think
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Aspen just where he is at in his career and his evolution in the sport I think
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that he could give Jon Jones some problems yeah and and I want to see that
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fight play out now I don't I can't predict the future I don't know what's going to happen but I I know that I want
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to see it yeah I I think we saw a little bit of vulnerability because stpe looked
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better than we thought we he would he had a few moments where he was pressing in a few moments where he wasn't just
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getting beat up and people kind of saw that and thought man Aspen he could take
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advantage of those moments he could survive Jon Jones's pressure he has his speed he has like the technique and the
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ability the Striking ability as well to like give Jon Joe's some trouble so and
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the power too I think um one thing Stipe was really lacking that Aspen has is
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reach Stipe has these little little tiny like T-Rex arms he's trying to walk his way
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in and it was hard for him like usually he knocks people out like when he's able
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to close that distance and he wasn't able to but Aspen isn't going to have to jump that hurdle he'll be able to kind
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of pick and pick him apart as well if Jones can reach him Aspen will be able
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to reach him so that's that's a fun one to look forward to and yeah like you said I think Dana was like
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kid you're gonna have but the boss yeah exactly I write
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the checks and or sign them or whatever and
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you're gonna have to fall in line but it's it's fair it's the only fair thing if he was able to deny espanol again I
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feel like that would just be ridiculous because like Alex P has not fought
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heavyweight if that's the fight that he wants then I think it's fair that he has to fight the interim champ call me crazy
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in order to get you're not crazy call me call me insane you know I'm a mad man
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over here but maybe maybe he should have to fight the interim champ before fighting someone who's not in his weight
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glass for the to defend the belt I'm just saying no I hear you I I completely
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agree you're not crazy you're not crazy I'm not gting everyone agrees except for Jon
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Jones but uh how happy did he look after that when I I feel like after that win
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he might not be trying to go like he might be trying to stick around for a while he said that in his post fight
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speech he's like listen I'm not retiring so this um you know leads into a great
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buildup to another fight with Tom Aspen and Jon Jones plays a great heel he
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promotes a fight very well better than most so I think it'll be a really fun leadup we have um two kind of um
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opposite types of personalities in as minol and Jones and I'm excited to see how it plays out yeah it's going to be a
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fun one um yeah man I I it was it was good for that to finally happen we could get that
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out of the way bury that uh steepe got to have his little send off in the most steepe way possible it was very steepe
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fashioned they just go oh you so what is what's next for you and he's like I'm
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done I'm done that's it for me and then he starts to take his gloves off but it
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looks like it was too hard so he just walks out the cage
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oh it it was it was always going to be a tough road back like no matter who he was going to fight whether it was Jones
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and somebody else that long of a layoff out outside of the octagon it's just it's going to be tough and to come back
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in a title fight is it's insane it's just like not many people can do that
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yeah well this is going to be kind of a shorter one because we're abroad right now but we should just go through the
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rest of the card and just get like little quick hits on on how we were feeling about each one and I'd like to
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start with Bo nickel versus Paul Craig oh would you I can start that yeah
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yeah let's do it so I thought it was wild that people were Channing in the
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crowd overrated after B nickl fought it's a
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hard one this he has less than 10 professional fights less than 10 and
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he's on the main card at MSG fighting a veteran in the UFC it's
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really hard he's in front of trump who he just went on a a long golf trip with
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so he's like oh I'm going to get this big knockout and have a moment in front of Donald Trump it's a lot of pressure
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to put on yourself and he was feeling it tonight I feel like yeah it's it's really hard he is known for his his
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wrestling and he's learning striking on the job basically and if he doesn't go
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for those takedowns um like he went against Craig who is a really strong Grappler so I understand he didn't want
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to put himself into that situation to potentially get submitted or you know get into some nasty scrambles end up in
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precarious situation I totally understand that kind of game plan and wanting to avoid that situation but he's
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going to have to make up for it with the Striking which he's just not there yet so it's he's in a really tough position
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I don't envy him he's yes on the main card and they're putting a lot of pressure on him it's just it's a really
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tough situation and he's going to have to really step up on it yeah I I was
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surprised that he didn't want to go to the ground like not even at the end of the rounds you know like that's usually
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if you're feeling a little weird about taking someone down who's scrambly who has good submissions you try to press at
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least at the end to see what you can get away with and then if you get a little leeway with that in the first and second
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round then in the third you can go right to the submission that's kind of what Charles olivea did and maybe it's more
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of a veteran thing that you expect but B Nichols had so many wrestling matches
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that you you you forget that he's still Green in other areas so I feel like the
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thing that was really tripping him up I don't even think it was the grappling threat I feel like it was the little
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weird stuff that Paul Craig was doing on the feet that was keeping him at Bay like that uh kind of lead knee lifting
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the lead knee throwing it but not really chambering it but just throwing it so every time he dipped in it was kind of
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hitting them on the chest or almost hitting them on the chin there was a the high kicks kept standing him up I feel
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like a lot of what Craig was doing was keeping him from really committing to the level change that in the elbows too
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Paul Craig was doing a lot on the feet that was just kind of at an odd Rhythm it was hard to time and it looked like
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he was having trouble drawing things out and making him bite to the point where he just kind of Stood Still in the
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middle of the cage so I felt like those were little moments showing that showing his frustration Craig wasn't biting on
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anything if anything when you're fighting someone who's kind of an unorthodox Striker it's hard to predict
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what they're going to do so that you can do your second and third move and it seemed like that's what he was dealing
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with in there so I'd like to uh see him in there again against someone at a
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similar level I feel like that wi is probably gonna eat at him a little bit
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just because he has had so much praise on the way up and for someone who's
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undefeated even getting that one little like people criticizing you you one but people are criticizing you it's not
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going to it's probably going to eat him to the point where he's going to want to work on that but well that's what
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happened in his previous fight as well and so again it's just he's on a the
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main card it's a really tough position to be in but he still got the finish in the previous fight so I felt like at
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least he had that to lean on but this time it went to decision uh all three
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judges scored it 3027 but I felt like Craig could have taken the first round so it's like ah man this this is the
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first time he's actually feeling something a little closer to the feat in
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the MMA cage and yeah it definitely it's definitely going to eat at him a bit
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but that's part of the part of the game that being in that pressure cooker and
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being able to figure it out and the only thing that gets rid of those moments of
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hesitation is more cage time absolutely agree uh how did you feel about Karina
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Silva versus viven aruo
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well I'm just going down the line oh my God I was just a bar with
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lots of smoking um okay so this one I wrote down
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that I had karini up two to one so it was the second round was stupid close
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it was really really close um I I gave her the first one for sure the second
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one I thought was really close I kind of thought she pulled it out and then the third one I thought AR Rojo took it over
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um and just you know showed it but um it ended up being unanimous decision I I
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thought Karina edged it um either way it was a great fight the women showed up
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showed out and um I was as a spectator as a fan I was very happy about it yeah
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it was a good one um I was uh I was kind of in the same boat as you but I saw
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that um just aruo kind of finished strong in the second so I'm like ah I
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wonder if that's going to make a difference it looked like she might have been Landing a little more in the
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control positions but uh that uh that third round it was so close too and then
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she got that throw in the very end and I was like damn almost I feel like she
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almost had if she just hadn't gotten thrown she would have gotten either the second or the third round but yeah it
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was it was a good fight good back and forth match um lots of GRA weird grappling scrambles in
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it like lots of weird I felt like uh Silva was just a little too aggressive
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and aruja was really good at just using that aggression against her yeah she CED
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very nicely I mean it just it arua showed her her veteran uh she showed her
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experience uh she's a solid well-rounded fighter and karini is still I think she's a firecracker but I still think
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she's um still finding her stride in the division still finding herself as a
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fighter she doesn't have you know as deep of a resume so again she's she's
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learning on the fly yeah and a lot of finishes too so sometimes when that finish doesn't come it gets a little
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hard and you start to try to force it and then that's when you get reversed you get thrown into an armar you get
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like in these weird positions where you might not have ended up against lesser competition um but I still got faith in
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her she's still one of my picks she was my lock for this card but unfortunately
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arua was just too slick so good job on her making it uh making it tricky and
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then ruffy versus yop Lop yop yeah they were they were calling
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it YP I I thought it was lion top Oh I thought it was Lop I was totally wrong
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well two L's yeah I get the pronunciation y
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um yop came in quite a bit overweight he was the one that was that made it a a
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catch weight at 165 which I was surprised I saw it I I didn't hear anything about that before the broadcast
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I heard it as it was going on um I I had
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ruie as a favorite he was my pick in this fight I thought he would win by tikoo when I saw that there was now a
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catch weight I was like you know what it's probably going to even the scales a bit which it did so he he almost got the
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finish I think in one of the rounds um he did really well I think he ended up dropping him um I've had a couple drinks
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tonight so don't ask what rounds he Dr he did a few times he wobbled him yeah
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he W he [ __ ] him up it was crazy that he didn't stop
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fighting um but yeah he [ __ ] his face up so I think I think the weight probably saved him a little bit um but
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he was a warrior man like he fought through all of that damage all the getting rocked he kept getting back up
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kept surviving uh there was a funny moment I think it was in the first round where ruffy uh just nailed him with a
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one two and then like threw this like tornado kick but he kind of like he
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watched it and you're like man if he had just thrown another cross he would have dropped him but
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instead he did this big crazy like Jackie Chan kick and ended up falling over I'm like damn that was the moment
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where all you had to do is throw like a jab you know what I mean he's gonna watch that back and be very upset yeah
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hopefully they got a really cool picture of it no I'm sure I'm sure no it was it was a fun fight though I I really
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enjoyed that fight it was it was good to the end um and I was really impressed with uh yon i l i loved how see I was so
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impressed with ruy how he he was rolling the punches and I love when he slips to the inside it's a really risky maneuver
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to do against such like a sharp Striker as the on top but he did it just
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beautifully he would always slip it and come back with um you know with a counter so it was really fun to watch it
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was beautiful striking yeah and that like Look Away thing that he does to the uh little rolls little rolls yeah it's
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nice man he when I remember the first time I learned how to do it I was like this [ __ ] don't work you
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know I was trying the uh coach Miguel was teaching it to me I'm like this [ __ ]
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don't work and then I started doing it I'm like oh that would have hurt if I didn't do that if I didn't turn my head
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that would have suck coach Adrian tries to get me to do that all the time he's like practice it on you know on the Ms
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and I'm like okay I'll be fing on the meds and when it's farring time I'm like you know what not today I don't think
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so they're throwing they're throwing their hands a little faster than I'm turning my head I
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think I'm just giving them Knockouts but no it's it's a it's a
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great practice it's something that people learn when they're coming up and more of like a boxing
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atmosphere um it's uh it it's just it's a great tool
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to utilize we don't see it a lot in MMA so when I when I see it I just really I
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pick up on it and I really admire it yeah no it's nice it's nice a lot of what he was doing was just like really
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slick so I was enjoying that um and then I don't know should we talk about
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all of them what do you want to do what are we doing this is
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this new I don't know what we're doing guess I don't know what we're doing I
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was just like oh there's so many more well okay I'm I'm gonna go to the ones that I enjoyed a lot uh Martinez versus
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McGee what the [ __ ] that was that was a [ __ ] Banger in my eyes that was cool
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um it was really cool this is um one of those fights where it was kind of a a coin toss for
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me so I I did didn't want to I didn't have a winner picked for this one I just
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kind of wanted to sit back and enjoy it because it's you know two really strong tough established Fighters and I didn't
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know exactly how they were going to match up yeah uh I kind of knew that both were
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coming in with like really stacked skills on each side like McGee was coming in with like really high variety
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of attacks in the Striking department and then Martinez just has that devastating leg kick and
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you don't remember how horrible Martinez's leg kicks are until you see the highlights you're just like oh yeah
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oh my God yeah oh oh he did that to him too you know and you're just looking at all these guys falling over grabbing
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their leg after he kicks in him you're just like godd damn this guy must have a metal rod in his shin and Marcus McGee
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he was doing everything he needed to do to keep Martinez from feeling comfortable throwing that kick and then
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all of a sudden at the end of the second round bam you know like he he landed what right on that nerve it's like you
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land right on that little bump on your thigh where if you have like a quad muscle that bump on your thigh he lands
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it there and it just numbs everyone's leg when he lands it like that and in
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the third round he was in survival mode I was so impress with McGee for his
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abilities to survive and legit just fight on one leg um in that third round
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because he was just able to hop around still land a little bit as he was hopping around on his dead leg and he
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dancing he was dancing around he was doing everything he could to stand that crazy it was so crazy I like there was a
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moment where he got uh double over hooks on Martinez and they're against the fence and I'm like pull guard pleas pull
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just take your legs out of it for a second you can pull guard and hold his
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arm and survived for the next three minutes uh but but he doesn't want to go
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out like that and he hobbled his way to a victory I was super impressed um especially in the first couple of rounds
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because McGee was was doing a really good job of just like figting and
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throwing his kicks and and really Mak are so fast fast they're not telegraphed
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at all no no it was it was really nice to see yeah it was it was an impressive
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fight um my my favorite fight though was probably Jim Miller and jam Jackson I
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mean of course [ __ ] Jim Miller Jim [ __ ]
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Miller oh my God he is such a star not not root for that guy he's my hero good
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and then he uh and then he called for justice for peanut which was like gonna
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make me cry got me right here H if you guys don't know what happened to peanut and
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in New York you have to look it up because it is heartbreaking there's no reason to do that that stupid and Jim
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Miller is right but man he he made a statement with his fight I hope he
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fights until he's 58 well he said he said 50 fights is his
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Hardline cut off he's going for he's going for 30 wins inside the Octagon um
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I was listening to his uh postf fight press conference because you know he's he's just an awesome guy um and
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what number was that don't remember
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know continue please continue as um but he was just saying that he you know has
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that that hard line at 50 fights and he doesn't want to pass it unless it was millions of dollars then he'll do 51 of
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course um he said he's just trying to like figure out how to best set himself up for after fighting so it's an easy
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transition you know him like a lot of Fighters like myself included um we
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haven't worked a lot of like real jobs so it's it is kind of scary you know um
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when the end starts coming and you don't know what that next step is so I think
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he is kind of realizing that you know he is at the heading towards the end he can
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kind of see it feel it he's ready to figure out what the next chapter of his life is um
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yeah so we just have to respect that and appreciate him while he's still here well the funny thing is his uh Wikipedia
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says he has 58 fights or 57 maybe inside the UFC 50 fights inside the UFC well
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let's see when did he get into the UFC uh okay that might make more sense
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Joe Rogan and Dana White both had hair four five six seven8 nine 10 11 12 12
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okay 12 of those weren't in the UFC so we have Jim Miller for
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another another five fights at least we'll take it
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yes that was some quick math I'm like brain calculator wa better you than me I
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math is not my thing never has been oh okay I'm happy we have Jim Miller for
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five more fights that's that's a that makes me happy inside um but that
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Guillotine was so nice I love the way um he just he's so good at just using
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people's shots against him getting his weight over the head really senting it in and just going for it there's no uh
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there's no hesitation in his Guillotine it's just like his bread and butter and like the technique on is so crisp you
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can see Damon Jackson's head was fully torqued down about to pop off his whole
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head turned red and as he tapped it was nice and it's just it's a nice little extra Victory because I'm noticing that
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and I just noticed at this fight I don't know how long they've been doing it I'm sure for a while because they're Shady like this but they're doing like the
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percentage of stats if you are you know um for older Fighters fighting somebody
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who's this many years younger it's like a five age gap between the two of them
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and it's um uh more than 63% of the time the fighter who is this many years
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younger beats this fider they're they're [ __ ] up stats I'm I'm tired of the age thing like just just stop it look any
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anyone who's fighting over 35 they're all very different like not one you can
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look at a group of 25-year-old MMA fighters from I don't know from a
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certain area and they're probably going to be a lot more similar you look at a group of like 35 to 40 year old MMA
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fighters they're all going to have different things that kept them going this long like you don't get fighters
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who have been in the game that long without a good reason so you can't just go off of the age Gap you have to go off
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of what their actual skills are and why they've had that type of longevity in
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their career so when you're looking at someone like Jim Miller he's not built the same as somebody else so you can't
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lump him into a category he's he's killing it man his streak is insane like
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he has that one blemish with Bobby green but he was streaking before that and um
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I feel like he's going to be streaking on his way to the big 0 as
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well um we had a a crazy KO in heavy
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weights with Marson tyor I felt like that fight was a good um a good kind of
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uh showing that we didn't need 12 to six elbows to be illegal because the ones
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that he were throwing like they look like they they looked bad they like they
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look like they should have been written in the rule book as not allowed like uh those like big thuing chopping elbows Ty
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where was throwing onto his head yeah that was that was how that
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fight was going to go in my head not necessarily the the big elbows but the
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takedowns Dean is he's a a power Striker he's not a volume guy but if if he hits
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you and he connects right you're going to go down and Tibor had a great game plan for it he went for the takedown
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which was his path to Victory which it was um so again I wasn't listening like
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I couldn't hear any of the broadcast but what ended up being the the cue that the
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doctors stopped it was it something that he said was it just no it was weird the visual of it it was visual yeah so you
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saw when they like picked him up the cornermen were really slick like if you wanted if you want to continue in a
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fight where you're [ __ ] up you want that corner because they were real slick they zipped in they grabbed them picked
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them up put him on the stool and you know we're trying to get him back uh get him back together get his head back in
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the game when the doctor looked at him I think he was wobbling and I think that's
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I think the doctor whispered to uh the official hey he had he's on wobbly legs
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so we have to call the fight and then herbine called it but uh yeah it's funny
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because I feel like it would have continued usually like if you want to go
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stats I feel like 90% of the time that fight would have continued into the next
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round but uh for whatever reason that doctor saw something she didn't like and called it um but it it felt it also felt
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like a good stoppage when you replay how bad he looked at the end of the second
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like his whole face was covered in blood as a picked him up he's like kind of wobbling his mouth's kind of a gape he
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doesn't really seem to know what's going on and then he gets to the stool and he starts to come back to life and the only
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thing that like kind of made me sad for the fact that they stopped it was his reaction when they called it like he
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looked heartbroken and he looked like fully aware of what was going on like he
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didn't look like he was still rocked so I kind of felt bad for him in that moment yeah for me it just again not
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being able to hear anything it almost looked looked like there was a language barrier there was some sort of of weird
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thing that was conveyed to the doctor unintentionally uh because he looked like he really wanted to go on so that
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was a bit confusing thanks for clearing that up for me yeah that's what the commentary was thinking too they're like oh maybe it's a language barrier or
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something maybe like because we had that moment with uh Johnny Walker where he's
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like I'm in the desert and it's like but he is in the desert but he is he was in the desert
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in the desert he didn't say Vegas come on yeah yeah so I don't I
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think it was just he was just like I'm good you know and then she was like uhuh you're
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done yeah but it was it was a it was a good fight uh I felt like it was it was
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pretty nasty do you feel like the gloves made a difference in this card having
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the old gloves back because there were a lot of drops and a lot of Kos which is
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crazy because I mean I I just recently fought in the new gloves for the first time and there's like nothing to them
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yeah it's paper it it's they're literally so thin
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there is no padding on it so it's it's kind of crazy that um there there looks
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to be like more impact with the old gloves than the new ones which it's
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crazy to me I was actually surprised that there weren't more instances of of cuts and breaks with the old gloves
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because they were there was nothing to them what what my theory is is that
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people with the new gloves because it's so thin and it doesn't feel like you're really protecting anything people aren't
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letting go as much like you don't feel that yeah it's like bareck yeah so
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you're not really committing to your punches and throwing them as hard as you can because you might break your hand
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and you really want to make sure that when you land you're landing on a soft part now tonight we saw a lot of punches
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laying on the temple laying on the side of the head because you know it didn't hurt didn't hurt that much so I think
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that extra padding like lets people throw a little more recklessly and then you see more drops that way um by the
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way thanks John so I'm so I'm out in bxi Mississippi and
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I last night was just at the um game bread bare knuckle MMA fight yeah how was that
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wow no there all the fights were great and listening to the impact of a bare
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knuckle on a bare jaw is just it's gnarly it's gnarly but it was it was
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more palatable to me because you can grapple there are
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kicks so it like it broke up the the brutality of of the punches for me yeah
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but they were great fights it was a great show that's what I saying too oh we uh we had H our friend Charles Rosa
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your boy he showed out he had a real good fight against a tough opponent ended up uh getting the Anaconda on him
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real nice so that was cool hopefully we'll have him on as an interview next
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week to do a little Victory lap um yes and then right before him there was a
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48y old guy I saw him versus some other dude and I'm like
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oh Lord here we go um Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul again and that guy knocked him
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out the old guy knock he brought a dog in the cage I've never seen it before in my life he brought his bull or it was
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his bully um cutest sweetest most well- behaved pup brought him into the cage
40:17
adorable took a Victory lap with him yeah it was amazing that's that's gos right there that's G to be
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me would would you ever do bare knuckle MMA I know your feelings on bare knuckle
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boxing yeah bare knuckle boxing is is a hard note but just the fact that there would be
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able to be grappling I'm a little bit more open to the idea of it but still it is it just listening to the the sound of
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the impacts was was pretty gnarly it's
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um it looks different they're just they're just messed up
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yeah it looks different like when when when you're watching it and you see the impact people react differently it's
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like I don't know it just feels like when people are wearing gloves they can take it a little bit more even with you
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know new UFC gloves or whatever but when people are getting hit with a bare knuckle they wobble a lot faster like
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their whole body gets interrupted it's like they get shocked you know like by
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electricity so it's kind of crazy to see the difference in that like how much difference just a little bit of padding
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makes because it's real it's like a real street fight and suddenly the punches
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have a lot more uh I guess consequence you know so you don't want to get hit
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you don't want to take one to give one you want to get out of the way get out of the way and then give one and then
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take them down so you don't hurt your hands anymore no you said it perfectly and I was surprised at at how few people
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were really trying to Grapple um even even though it was allowed in this in
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this role Set uh they were still just really going for The Knockout they were still willing to to stand and bang and a
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few people it looked like it was um there was a little bit of apprehension in the first round because a lot of them
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hadn't done it before process um getting comfortable
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but you got to get comfortable really quick yeah yeah if it looks like the
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hardest thing to get comfortable doing um did you watch the Jake Paul
42:31
Mike Tyson fight
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I um I I saw some highlights ah I saw some
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highlights um that that's one of those fights that
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I just really I I didn't want to watch I wasn't I I didn't um it's it's a
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spectacle I understand that both of them got paid very well it's it's awesome they both signed on the dotted line and
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they agreed to it it's just call it what it is it's It's
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Entertainment this is not a sport you're not you know building up to be a world champion you're you are doing really
43:12
well for yourself and I can respect that but I just don't like all of the
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shenanigans I just don't yeah and no it's solely a circus it's it's like a
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live version of like a a an a movie
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about MMA or something you know like I feel like Jake Paul is playing this character every time he reacts to
43:36
something every time he he gets on the mic it's always something that you've seen before like it's always something
43:42
that you know he's seen before and he thought oh that's cool I'm gonna do that next time I get out there and even
43:49
though everyone does that to exent an extent he just looks like such a poser and it's because of his upbringing he
43:55
didn't have to work his way up to stardom he started as a star and then he
44:01
built the fights around making him look better and better and then every time he gets out there too he looks more and
44:08
more Juiced up so already seeing what he looked like next to Mike Tyson I'm like
44:14
ah here we go again but it's hard it's so hard but there's sorry go ahead no
44:22
you go ahead um Ed Ed Hearn who who's a boxing promoter um he he kind of gave it
44:29
to Jake Paul in a very respectful but very honest way and he was just like listen I I think you are doing well from
44:37
yourself I see you improving but you are average at best and for you to call
44:42
yourself you know a champion or to Market yourself as this this fighter
44:47
you're just not there you know and I I thought that Ed Hern just he was very
44:53
honest brutally honest and he put it very well and it he put it into a perspective for a lot of people you know
44:59
um and Jake Paul keeps standing on oh well I beat a you know a world champion
45:05
in Anderson civil will he beat a retired world champion he's fighting people who are not real boxers he's fighting people
45:12
yes they're signing on the dotted line yes they are signing up for this they're in agreement with it totally fair um but
45:19
to say it's anything more the entertainment is just it's insulting no
45:24
exactly no and and I watched it and I was almost entertained I was entertained
45:30
for the first two rounds and then I was like ah it's the thing again it always feels like a bait and switch like he has
45:36
a great marketing team he he the the production of the shows are always
45:42
top-notch you feel like you're really about to watch something special and then you get the same [ __ ] you know you
45:50
get uh Jake Paul just kind of running and then hugging and then breaking away
45:56
and then Landing his points and then running again and it just is so tedious and he really knows how to make his
46:04
style work you know for for these people who on paper he shouldn't be able to
46:11
beat but because of the asteris because of the age because of the fact that they're not fighting him in the same
46:17
sport or in the same weight class he's always able to find that tactic to beat
46:23
them and make it look just kind of easy for him and it just it pisses me off
46:29
every time because I always fall into the Trap of thinking oh this time this
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time he's gonna do it this is gonna be the one and it's
46:41
never the one it's like a carnival game you know how you get addicted to trying to knock all the milk milk jugs off the
46:49
ball but I want that cross side teddy bear I want it you want it it's adorable I want it Oh I thought I thought last
46:58
night was going to be the night we won our stuffed uh Tweety
47:03
Bird our life-size T Bird I thought I thought last night was goingon to be the
47:09
night but it didn't happen and I was just so frustrated that I fell into the Trap again and it's GNA happen again and
47:15
again and I'm pissed that he knows how to like uh work the human psyche it's
47:22
like how people know how to make viral videos like he he grew up doing he was
47:28
born into that you know they know how to touch on the things that people will be
47:34
attracted to and people will click on and that's what happens to us every time we we go oh I guess I will watch that
47:40
that looks interesting and then you know we get what we deserve yeah he really
47:48
does do a great job of making you tune in because you want him to fail you want
47:54
to see they they want to see something
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spectacular so people keep tuning in he does a great job of this
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repeat uh oh I think I lost you oh there you
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okay hello oh I'm losing you I'm losing you ah it's telling you it's my bedtime
48:21
it's two o'clock in the morning here oh hell well yeah let's let's cut this off
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I think we can end on that note with how horrible the world is right
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now and this has been another two straws we'll see you again when we talk to
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Charles Rosa later in the week and he's going to give us a Victory lap and then
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uh maybe we'll do a little preview before the end of the week for next week's
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fights yes tune in let us know in the comments below what you'd like to see
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and hear a little bit more of next time we do these reactions this was fun for us thanks for joining bye bye
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