Two Straws on Fightpass! We're back y'all!
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Nov 6, 2024
Oh hello there. We had a hiatus, but now we're back baby! This here is our new podcast format where this week Angela Hill and Jessica Penne discuss the notable female fights of UFC Fight Night: Santos vs Hill and last week's UFC 277. The last 15 minutes is exclusive to UFC Fight Pass network so if you wanna watch the whole thing go check us out there. What's that? You don't have a Fightpass subscription? Well go sign up so you can exult in our melodious voices and stare at Jess's feet from the comfort of your mobile device. As ever: please like, subscribe, comment or whatever and follow our instagram page(s).
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and we're back with another set of two straws did we check her
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the headphones just jumped off of my head just now wow you looked a little sleepy
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thank you thank you that enthusiasm woke me right up ready
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for another training session that was all the energy for the day and now we have more energy arriving
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yes oh my gosh mr rogers neighborhood who do we got oh
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my gosh oh well we have uh mr conductor himself hil wilson hayes oh my gosh i
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know that guy he's my friend he's my friend too gosh he's so fun butcher hates him but you're absolutely does not
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like he's not having anything to do with his presence oh my goodness what a chaotic start
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to the podcast that's okay we're not gonna stop and start over again no no we're not
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this is this is just life you know sometimes life hits you fast uh kind of similar to
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the week that i had last week tell us about your week because what a whirlwind pretty exciting yes
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butcher shut up hush hush okay good boy i think that worked oh my
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goodness no almost almost it'll be fine uh last week i got the call asking if i
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wanted my fight versus your former opponent loopy godinez if i wanted that fight that was
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scheduled for october to happen this week in san diego and let me guess what you said hell today yeah
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because angela hill don't do fight camps she only does the short notice thing that's just how she does it
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that's my favorite [ __ ] yeah i'm like uh i'm like the what is his name uh james
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krauss he oh yes he's kind of retired but also always available to fight short notice
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even if he's cornering someone that's how he does it too he's always cornering people so he always has the opportunity
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to just be like hey i'm a man like i'm here i have another training partner he can corner that person
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it's fine i'm trying to get paid like let's go let's go and then he wins
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it's crazy it's crazy that's my that's my deal i am undefeated i believe and short notice
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fights that's i should just stick to doing that and
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never fight with a fight camp again i think i think that's uh my calling i mean why would you do anything else
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other than what works for you yeah i need to be more like batman you know just appear when needed
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you should start coaching people and cornering people more often so you can just like already have uh
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your hand in the pot the hat yes what is that called what's that saying um i already have my yeah i think that's it
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hand in the pot hannah the cup so i think that's it just you're there two hands and one cup hey yes
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i'm ready i'm ready to go i'm i'm i'm just hitting up anyone who's doing the main event
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as the loud fourth person because you get four corners when you do a main event and i can just be that person
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because i'm pretty loud in the corner and if i get called to fight they don't need me exactly just go fight it'd be
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like a great strategy good job or i could show up after the fight and continue to be loud
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you've obviously thought about this [Laughter]
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you know me very well oh what you got there oh my gosh more chaos more chaos this is going to
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be a great show um adam was nice enough to drop me a little beverage a little bevy
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oh yeah that's got gin in it yeah adam has that scottish
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heavy hand very very generous pour he has i appreciate
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it yeah who doesn't man like only prudes don't appreciate that kind of stuff um
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but yeah we had a great weekend of fights and that really pumped me up for my fight this weekend
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short notice as it may be uh we had a ton of finishes on the tough
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finale we got to see a lot of story lines play out with the finalists
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and the week before we didn't have a show but we got to watch the nunes and pena rematch so lots of stuff to talk
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about today lots to unpack where do you want to start um i don't know let's let's start with the
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tough stuff because we've really been focusing on that for our first episode so i
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i want to know and we'll get to juju our buddy juju
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later but i want to know were you surprised by the heavyweight fight
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uzman brother versus palga during the first round i was like ah
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yeah i don't know how this is gonna go palga was keeping range using the footwork i mean
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it made me a little bit nervous about the way he was you know jumping in and out the first round because they were um
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it was like one shot in and out yeah um and he was really using that range and
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mohammed usman was only throwing like one shot at a time i mean they were they were big shots big old shots they made
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me very nervous um and as you know as we know heavyweights
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have one punch knockout power so yeah anything can happen but after the first round i was a little bit nervous from
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muhammad but you know he he ended all of my my fears in doubt did like right away
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in the second round he's like you know what i got my distance i got my range i know i'm going to hit him with and i
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think he timed palga's uh he had a big jab in yeah and he didn't retract fast
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enough he just kind of stuck that jab in and moe caught him with um what was it a left hook it was like a yeah it was like
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the door opened and then it shut right as palga thought he was okay or out of
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the way in danger it was so nasty and then that follow-up shot too that was
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mean can you imagine i bet it must have felt like having a bag of bricks just dropped
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on your head after already getting hit with a bag of bricks like that was
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that was nice somebody from powell can't send him um like uh send
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mark smith the ref a nice little fruit basket yeah for getting in there fast oh my god yeah that's scary that's got to
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be scary too because as a ref you you are responsible for fighter safety
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and you have to be able to get in and like completely break that up before any more you know harm comes to a young
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fighter so that's that's a i forget what fight i was watching but uh i think it was ufc and they had the
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world's skinniest most slight ref like he looked like a thin man and he was
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roughing either light heavyweights or heavyweights and i'm just sitting there like who who allowed this to happen like
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you're gonna make this little guy jump into the middle of the fight in the most heated moment and try to break it
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up like this guy's gonna get killed they're gonna fold them in half they're gonna break him like a stick so usually
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they put in a size appropriate ref like they won't have keith peterson doing the
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the curtis blades versus you know i would hope not yeah i mean not saying
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anything against keith peterson's abilities but he's dirty he's a sturdy little guy yeah but little key word
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little he was a little they wouldn't they wouldn't even see that he's stopping the fight like flick
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him off the shoulder get out get out of here man i'm working
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oh man yeah that was that was a nasty fight and something kind of stupid happened it was
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it was one of those fights where uh it's it starts at a cautious pace
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so you don't really expect that to happen immediately after turning away
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but my dumb ass i was we were watching on a playstation i accidentally hit one of the buttons and
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exited out of the espn app so i'm like oh don't worry you know it was a cautious cautious space fight i'm
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sure nothing happened we turned it back on and ooze my brother's just
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we're like no what did we miss oh my god i can't believe that happened we missed the best part
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uh so um we had to replay that and that that hook was nasty so congratulations
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to uh muhammad usman for that nasty nasty finish oh oh my gosh so
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mean and so what they were talking about during that broadcast where they they reminded me and the audience that
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mohammed actually usually fights prefers to fight at 205. oh because he was on the ultimate fighter
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i'm gonna have to continuously cut weight that would be way too much weight to cut consistently in that short span
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uh that short time span for sure he's huge he's huge that is a massive man and i
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like i am sure that that power transfer will be completely there
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for 205. and it'll be easier to reach people too yeah he is he is not um the
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tallest for the division heavyweights are pretty big guys but he does have that athleticism and that power that
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could carry him in the heavyweight division so i'm curious to see if he will stay at heavyweight or move down to
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205 where you know he likes to be preferably yeah i think i think palca is a natural heavyweight
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right or does he also i'm pretty sure he is yeah so that's a that's a big win you know and he proved that he can close the
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distance and be a threat at heavyweight i like the
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i guess the trend of fast athletic heavyweights that we're seeing right me too
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as opposed to okay someone might get knocked out or we'll go to the second and third round
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and there's just gonna be two really big tired guys you know swinging swinging very slowly but very heavily and taking
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a deep breath in and trying to swing again so i like that there's this new wave of just these fast
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uh athletic looking guys that look like they could play football or something and now they're in the ufc knocking
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people's heads off like this is gonna be a scary weight class i think in the next five years yeah it's
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interesting to see how it'll develop i i've never been a huge fan of the heavyweights just because i'm like ah
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they're not so technical that kind of thing i like the lighter weight classes because there's a lower
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percentage of like one punch knockout finishes but it is very exciting as as a fan as a
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viewer to see like really well-built athletic heavyweights getting
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in there in the mix yeah yeah i'm excited for it i'm excited for muhammad usman congrats on the win and now we
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should definitely talk about our girl julianna miller getting in there and dude like when i
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look up the tough 30 finals everything is talking about juliana she
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is she's she's on her way up like she's gonna be a big deal and
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i don't think it's going to her head quite yet but i think i think it might eventually people really dig her style
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yeah yeah i i forgot to do the before the ultimate fighter finale oh yeah
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yeah the screen grab how many followers they have i like to always check that before and after a
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fight because it's always you know crazy to see if you know the mainstream public
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responds well to a fighter or if they don't because you know it just it depends on the fighter what you know
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viewers want to see and they definitely want to see giuliana because i know that it crept up i didn't get that screenshot
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to see where she was at before but i know it has gone up exponentially yeah
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i'm sure she's fun to watch she's like a very out there big personality she's very
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sweet and she has you know i mean win or lose she has an exciting style yes she goes for it yeah she she has that female
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rocky balboa quality tour where she acknowledges that she has a lot of
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learning to do she's she's not sure if she's the best like when she was getting ready to fight this broken girl she said
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something like um i don't i don't think i'm better anywhere but i have more heart
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so that in itself is something that speaks to a lot of people who don't feel the most athletic they don't
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feel the strongest they don't feel the best but they know that they want it more than the other person and that's
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that's the that's the vibes that she's giving off in her fights and her fighting style
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not just her media stuff but her fighting style just getting in there and getting nasty and and those elbows i
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mean how could you not be a fan of the elbows that she landed when she got to mount in the third round that was that
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was a big fight it was one-way traffic though the whole way through but that moment made it such a bigger
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uh introduction into the ufc than if she had just coasted to a decision
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absolutely and i mean it didn't hurt that there was some you know tension from when there was the build up there
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was i didn't see that from brogan walker like on the show that she was gonna get so um
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kind of and i mean i i didn't see that from her
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in any you know of the other kind of interactions on the show or like previously i didn't you know see too
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much of that or any at all but it's always interesting to see how a fighter you know
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builds themselves up what they have to do to psych themself out um i don't know if it
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helped or hindered her you know if it i mean you know she she did lose the fight so we'll say it didn't work i i feel
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like her game plan she just didn't adjust and that's one thing i noticed about uh uh usman
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brother is that he made really good adjustments in his final fight on the show and i felt like brogan
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just kept trying to do the same thing without success like over and over again she went to the clinch position and then
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juliana would reverse it and get and get a takedown she'd get like a little knee bump or something and land on top and
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every round after that she did the exact same thing forced the clinch and then would get taken down and end up on on
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bottom so i do wonder if that bull-headedness if just going
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forward and and being so i guess
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i guess not sure yourself but just wanting to get that back so bad maybe that came from the tension before she
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didn't want her to have that one up she didn't want her to be able to win the clinch positions even though she
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continued to win the clinch position she didn't think maybe i'll try something else well it's interesting to me like i
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wonder if that was in fact her game plan going in because that was her her default that was her go-to
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and for me i saw rogan i mean she definitely has more refined striking than juliana uh she has
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you know a little bit more experience than juliana fight wise she's a black belt not um you know julian is no slouch on the ground
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she's a really good brown belt um but i just wondered
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if that was like the game plan and that's why she didn't defer from that at all yeah because for me
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thinking about that fight i thought brogan would keep the distance she would stay southpaw which she ended up switching to orthodox a lot which
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surprised me and it got her in trouble and then in the moments where
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you know there was a moment to either disengage create space or clinch she you
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know stayed in there and clinched which is where juliana had her success the whole ultimate fighter yeah
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like every fight in the ultimate fight getting dirty in there and finding a way to drag people down yeah it was just
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interesting i thought that it would be more of like an in and out points you know to kind of grind her down
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find her range and then start capitalizing off of that in in different ways but yeah she did not make those
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adjustments and juliana just kept doing what what she was doing and you know until she got the finish yeah yeah it was
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pretty impressive impressive work by juliana um i'm looking forward to her next fight i
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wonder who they're going to match her with and i'm wondering if any of those other
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people on the show end up getting ended up getting contracts because i already saw a couple of the girls got
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booked to fight and other promotions since it was aired that they lost their fight so i'm wondering if there's any
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other outliers and off of the show or if it's just going to be the tough finalists because it looks like it's
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just us men and it's just uh juliana who are getting the contracts right now that was interesting because for our finale
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yeah we had i mean it was every girl from the season pretty much made the whole undercard and
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then you know the main card we had you know other big names and stuff like that and the people that were in the finals carlin rose um
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so it was interesting that they're being you know i guess very selective yeah um
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but i think there's just plenty of room in both of those weight classes for you know
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them to include people and there were some girls on there that i could see getting contracts so i am interested to
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see who you know if any got on the roster because i think there's you know definitely girls that you know have a
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spot yeah for sure um there were a few girls who lost close decisions um who's
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what was the girl's name that came in short notice and one but then i think she fought brogan and ended up losing
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that fight uh oh um gallardo gallegos laura laura little
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i'll say laura she i felt like she had um a lot of
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potential to be competitive in the weight class 15 because she's obviously naturally
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she's a natural 115 or she got on the show short notice and i think it served her well
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and i think that she showed a lot of really good stuff and could give a lot of people tough fights at 1 15. yeah so
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i am interested to see you know if if that got her in because i can't imagine it being a hindrance yeah
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exactly same with uh peralta she's also um bounced between 125 and 115. uh she
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she wasn't busy enough i felt like maybe they'd make her fight again to just show how
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how good she can be maybe at a smaller weight class or just if she doesn't have to worry about the takedown so much or
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worry about the competition so much uh but i don't know i just kind of like her swagger on the show so i was hoping i
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was hoping she'd be one of the ones that get on get the contract as well yeah i
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kind of see her going more back towards bare knuckle boxing because she just does not like the ground yeah
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and that's just you know that's just from what i've seen and what i've gathered and you know no i i see her
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you know going back to boxing your branco boxing yes that's more her game
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um i don't you know i don't know what's really going on the money is in mma baby
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i don't know i hear they pay pretty well at barnacle boxing i just i wonder what they pay her though because she is kind
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of one of those people who were just in bare knuckle like that was
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her biggest stage but the people who get paid i feel like they came from ufc or
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came from belder and they were big names there and then they're able to negotiate that big contract so i'm wondering if
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she still has that i mean maybe she can negotiate for more now that she's on top but it always
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helps to have that ufc on your resume you know it really does yeah it's a good negotiation tactic
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for those other guys who who have the money but they don't always want to give it to you
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just give them the money just give it to me it's hard bare knuckle fighting oh the hands
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[Laughter] man it is a lose-lose to me i just i
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just i just can't i don't wanna yeah shout out to our girl beck who is amazing at
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it and she was out she was loves made for that [ __ ] for some reason yeah she was i don't get it but i
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support you hey thank you i support you yes we will watch it with our hands over our face
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ready to cover up at any moment oh okay you do that punch okay good good job okay tell me when it's over oh
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man um but uh yeah the the finale too or not
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the finale but the coaches match happened last week
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that was a [ __ ] fight holy [ __ ] i just got like the the tingles thinking about it again it
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was amazing [ __ ] that was fine who did you think was going to win before the fight happened so i wasn't
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sure i think we talked about this our last yeah i think so yeah i was not sure
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if it was really like a fluke if there was something really up with amanda and that's you
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know or that was just the story that she was creating to you know psych herself up i i didn't know because it was just
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such a dominant finish but yeah something looks like it could have been
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off so i was interested to see how it was going to go how she was going to come in and
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i also said that i wanted no matter what i was like i think i want amanda to win because i really want a third because we
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gotta have that tie breaker we're gonna have that trilogy and that's i i think that's what's gonna happen i don't know if it'll happen as soon
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i don't know because it was just five rounds of very dangerous
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yeah decisive decisive uh but hats off to juliana pena because
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there is no quit in that girl yeah and she [ __ ] showed up the next week for the tough dirty finale i mean she had
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hats and glasses and you know all that stuff on but but still she was there was nunes there
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i didn't know no no no i didn't she was there no yeah that's that's [ __ ] cool
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like no matter what you can say about the girl's personality or how she is
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however i know there's a lot of um a lot of people think certain things about the way she presents herself and
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stuff but that's that's really cool to be that loyal to show up for the person that you said you were going to be there
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for and you know just showing that you give a [ __ ] i always feel like those people the people that are harder
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to get close to but once you get close to them they really make it worth it i always
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feel like that shows i don't know just just character it just shows that you're
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that you're a dope ass person i don't know i don't know a better word for it but yeah i
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thought that was cool i thought that was really cool that she showed up in her disguise in her invisible man outfit
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but yeah yeah i mean and to go through the fight that she went through and
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still like walk in there and support her people yeah i don't want to see anyone after a loss you know like i don't know
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[ __ ] you i'm on my couch i am on my couch with my disguise on if
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i show up to the gym that's the only place i'm showing up in person everywhere else don't look at
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me don't talk to me don't ask me how i'm feeling like i don't want to talk to you about it but she showed up into an area
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where everyone there saw her fight and she didn't care she was there to support her girl so i thought that was really
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cool and her wait and she was also both muhammad and and zach's coach oh
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okay yeah so she was there for all three of them so that was really cool i thought that was really cool um
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but that fight was really awesome not just because
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nunes was able to redeem herself was able to go forward but it was competitive like people say that that
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she trashed her like i saw a lot of that online and stuff but it was a really
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competitive back and forth fight and personally i had a feeling that pina might pull it off again and so maybe i
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was looking with slightly different eyes because i wanted to be right but i did
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my heart did want nunez to win just because i'm a huge fan of hers and and i love her style i love uh i i love the
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fact that she is still the fighter that she is and not on a downslide because that always is a little disappointing
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but i did feel like juliana just had her number you know and in this fight she
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showed that maybe she didn't have her number in this fight but amanda made really good adjustments and
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she changed the way that she fought her as opposed to the first fight where it was just punch for punch coming forward
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this time nunes was more disciplined she stepped back she waited and then she
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would land her big shots and that made a huge difference in the fight and then when she felt like she was slowing down
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a bit she took her down sat on her like it was a really well done game plan she she did everything that she needed to do
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to secure that win and not take too much damage because if you see nunes face in the press conference she got hit she got
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hit a lot a lot more i was like when did that happen i know that's what i was saying i didn't i didn't see the thing
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that swolled up swelled up her cheek but you could see every round it was getting bigger and bigger so
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penguin has some power man and i it's it's like deceptive i think she sneaks it in there when she's going for shots
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or something but she has some power and nunes had to respect this time and she definitely did
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i was surprised when nunes came out as southpaw i was like i don't know if i would have done that
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because i again i don't know her camp i don't know how long she's been working at southpaw but to
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completely change your stance in a short time frame like your body doesn't react in natural ways when
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you're standing in a stance that is not like your stance for sure so it was really impressive
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how well she did navigating through that and she kept doing these like really
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tricky like step-in lefts where she would switch her stance and she would hit penny every single time i mean she
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dropped her a couple times with it it was really impressive she looked great uh she had a really good game plan
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but i mean i'm i also have to acknowledge pena just for being so tenacious and there's no quit in that
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girl yeah and i have to respect and admire that when she threw up that arm bar i was like yo
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there's no quit on this girl why are you so crazy just stop just stop
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and she's like nope it's deep that was yeah i got mad respect for her
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after that fight for sure more than when she beat nunes because now it's confirmed
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she just got that dog in it man she's got that dog in and she's going to be a tough fight for anyone including nunes
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yes so i wonder who they're going to have them fight next because i feel like at this point
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like it was decisive enough of a fight to where they you don't necessarily have to give it to pena again
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but at the same time like who else is there in the division that you know
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is in line for it exactly you would make a more exciting fight than those two exactly
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so some people were saying that chevchenko should get a shot at the bannerweight title next for that trilogy
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and i want to see her fight freaking what's her face again me too because that's how
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yes i need to see that fight again yeah they need to run that back they need to like immediately i call for an immediate
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rematch of that fight i did not agree with that decision no and put like a headgear on valentina or something give
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her some kind of padding on her forehead just like stick it on there yeah just a
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maxi pad i mean they let us wear you know knee pads ankle pads why not
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even the sleeve one of those neoprene sleeves those are allowed in most
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athletic emissions or maybe like wrap her braids like ever so slightly over her forehead
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maybe give her some bangs i feel like that would be just enough
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cushion to stop a headbutt from changing the direction of a fight
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it's just enough i mean fluffy bangs very fluffy very flat like feathery fluffied teased yes she would look good
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with it i think she could work she could pull it off yeah i want to see it she looked
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like a doll baby one of those porcelain dolls she does have great skin yes yes great skin milky
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very smooth smooth like a bullet
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anyway stop horn dogging over chef jacob's forehead
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um i want to see that fight happen for sure but if she went to bantamweight how cool
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would this be because you know nunes likes to take her time coming back maybe she defends the 145 ballot against
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somebody is that still a division i think it's not a thing anymore
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i mean it's a thing because she has the belt for it and she's
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yeah i don't know there's people on it i feel like they they don't even have enough for a top ten they have like i
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don't think i swear they don't they have a top six or something in half everybody's in the division yeah
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10 are the people who fought at 45 once when they got called in for a short
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notice fight like holly holm is probably like number two no she only spencer
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who's retired she did when that happened she i think she retired off of a win i don't remember or
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maybe maybe i lost but yeah she retired maybe last year it was a weird one it was it was
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definitely a weird one because everyone was like why are you retiring you're great yeah and i think she just didn't
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enjoy it anymore which is understanding you know she i think she said something like she wants to do other things and
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this is a great ride but she's she's over it yeah she's ready to get off yeah it's hard stop the crazy train you can't
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be on this crazy train half cocked like there's there's no no you gotta love it yeah it's like live breathe and die for
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it you really do yeah it's like all jokes aside like you can't you cannot be
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in this sport if you do not 100 love it because it [ __ ] hurts yeah
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it's brutal literally and figuratively
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man but uh i think it would be cool if if nunes took some time off that they
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allow pina to fight shivchenko in a rematch for the interim bantamweight
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title how cool would that be i like that because they could make 25
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don't think so she looked pretty sucked out or not sucked out but she just looked small i
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think she's not the biggest the ufc pi nutrition team could help her get down
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i'm sure they could but who wants to do that also um pina is mostly head you
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know like she she's she's like i'm gonna tell her you said that no please don't
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but there's not a lot of water that could come from there you know like
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she's not a huge girl but i think she's one of those people that fit perfectly
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in between weight classes like perfectly at 130 yeah not 125 125 would be a bit much like it
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might it might hinder her performance if she makes it for sure um and chivchenko
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just seems like a natural 125 like it doesn't seem like she has any trouble cutting weight
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well it seems like she walks pretty lean yeah and she stays kind of like close to
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fight shape all the time yeah so i wonder how hard that is to maintain i mean
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she's been doing it for years i'm sure that's yeah it's fine but i just i always wonder about people because she's a pretty solid 125 so i do wonder
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how big of an adjustment it would be you know to go up to 135. well she did it yeah i
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know she didn't um but i think i think the risk is worth the reward um just because if she did do it it
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would have to be for a strap a room would make sense if nunes needed
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time off she she does take pretty big breaks in between fights so nunes needed maybe six months off to just recoup and
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you know get a ducks in a row and enjoy life as champion then let the hungry hungry chicks fight
33:41
you know let penguin shiv chinko fight it's just a i don't think anyone said that this could be a scenario but i
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don't know i feel like it would be a smart move for the ufc brass so
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send me a check when it happens you're welcome i know you're watching it's on fight
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pass i mean i'm not i'm not mad at that at all i think it would be
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an exciting fight especially with you know the book of work that they have done
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you know since their previous one so i think it would be exciting i think it could be totally justified and i mean the ufc likes doing exciting interim you
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know fights all the time or interim title fights all the time so i don't see why
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not and i think that penguin could pull out the spiciness in chevchenko like shevchenko is always right on the cusp
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of getting spicy but then she reels it back and it's like but i'm very humble so i will not say that
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and i think that opinion will pull out that [ __ ] you know like that dude it's
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a gift yes it is a gift and a talent and she is
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and she does it with a smile in this very like kind of nonchalant sort of way yeah it's
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it's really impressive it really is yeah like and she gets into his skin she does it eloquently as well
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my favorite line on tough is when they were wrapping up the final episode and
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nunes is like oh you're gonna lose you're gonna lose and she goes that's what you said last time oh my god right
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how like oh there's no winning that like you just gotta wait until fight night to win that
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all right you gotta be like you can't you can't win it that night you gotta wait until the fight to win it she went
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home and trained her ass off after that line like you know it [ __ ] this [ __ ] okay i'll tell you
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what i said last night i'm gonna show you what i said last time and you know you know she's gonna use
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that on pena the next time that they fight oh i hope that's what you said last time what you said
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she's gonna [ __ ] it up oh my goodness that's what you said last time yeah
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she'd have to laugh at that with a smile too yeah smiling she'd have to laugh at that oh my thing's cutting out a little
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bit bro i think it's my headphones so um did you see speaking of uh hail mary
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armbars did you see the first fight of last night's card yes
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and i was going to bring that up to the stephanie egger versus myra buenos silva
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the phantom tap yes the phantom tap what do you think happened dude i couldn't
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i couldn't see it like i really couldn't see it and i may have had a buzz on while i was
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watching it it was the first bite we were waiting a long time for that first fight to start you know i felt like it took forever
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with all like the pre-fight stuff i'm like all right i'm gonna go get like you guys said that we're starting
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yeah yeah and then yet we have not yeah not even close oh my goodness not even close
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i feel like i have to go watch it again but i mean phantom tapping is a real
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thing yeah it really is and um who was the ref in there
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um christine chris yeah cabbage patch that [ __ ] guy
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oh my goodness he was not
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liked on tough at least not on our team no he was not he had also
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not liked when my opponent your next opponent loopy was poking her fingers in my freaking eyes
37:29
he was like i'll allow it like that i was like she's pointing around she's like no she's not i was like
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oh my god i was like because i'm in a very precarious situation right now i think i was like triangled around her
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and i was like against the fence yeah i was just like i'm not gonna argue right now this is not the time nor the place
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but she was all up in my eyes and she was like sorry i was excited i'm like yeah sure she said that she said that
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she was like sorry i was excited i'm like when did she say that after the fight yeah during after she poked you
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oh i'm so sorry girl get out of here oh my god
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i'm i'm actually not surprised because she came up to me oh i was so mad and hugged me i was like
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that is my friend yeah do not excuse me ma'am do not
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hug my friend now that i'm thinking back to it she's probably just sizing me up like oh no
38:26
she wasn't she was seeing how big you are she was so excited to meet you she did this like giddy little like
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oh my god just little like this little thing and i was like i should have pulled a and then i was staring at you too and i'm like don't do
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it don't do it and you did it because you're so freaking nice i can't help it she just looks so happy
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make her pay for it on saturday though i will
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hug her on the ground elbow her
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yes yes she seems like a nice girl but yes she does seem like she gets excited like a
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like a puppy with a treat starts malfunctioning yeah yeah
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tries to throw all the things um yeah so christiani was rough on that armbar
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right and they used instant replay yeah and then they determined that it was in fact a tap but the instant replay didn't
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show you it did not show anything if anything i saw a shadow of the arm go
39:32
so i'm like that looks like a tap because right after she did that the girl lets go but
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what if she was just trying to get her hand free yeah you you you don't know i i i don't know
39:45
i don't have the answer this is like uh but it is a strategy what is what is that thing called a schrodinger's cat
39:52
have you ever heard of that theory excuse me no do i have to google this or do you give me the definition no no i'll tell you about it thank you if it's the
39:58
right word i think it's called schrodinger's cat and it's the theory that if you could put in a cat in a box
40:05
you leave it without food or water before you open that box there is the
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cat exists you know and you don't know that the cat is alive or dead but there's definitely a cat in the box and
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so as long as you don't open the box you don't know if the cat is dead
40:24
so there's this i'm calling peta this is awful so this is similar to the
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tap the fact that the tap the hand was on the other side
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where you can't see it you're never really gonna know there's that fight will permanently exist in a
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realm where there may or may not have been a tap but we'll never know we will
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never know because there's no proof even though one of the judges said he saw a tap but those those small
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objectives are boxing judges they do not know what they are looking at they're not watching my fights definitely not
41:01
they've never watched natural hill fights yeah they haven't they're over there playing [ __ ] candy crush like
41:08
where was it watching i think it was uh juliana and brogan's fight and i saw one
41:14
of the judges she was like trying to like look around the post i was like stop it you don't care stop it you have a monitor right in
41:21
front of you and you're like look at that stop just stop right now yeah she's putting on a show like hey
41:27
has her has a little opera uh opera monocle thing on
41:33
prove that she's watching closely no you're not yeah you don't know what that is you were texting your
41:39
daughter you're just happy it was a finish uh so they pulled everyone and one judge
41:47
saw the tap and so it was deemed to tap but i thought it was really funny how edgar just went silent and i think that
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was the only thing that made me believe she tapped because she wasn't sure
41:59
because the world is existing in this world where you know nobody saw the tap she wasn't
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sure if someone caught it on camera that's my theory so she was just
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playing it silent waiting for everything to pan out waiting to see all the replays that happened and then when they
42:17
started asking people she's like oh it's trying to get my arm free oh you that you guys don't have proof
42:23
that i tapped oh cool i was trying to get my arm free i mean did i deny this story that is my story um it was
42:31
funny how emotional the brazilian girl was was it what is her name again myra um
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bueno silva buenos silva yes it was funny how emotional bueno silva was
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afterwards because she's like i don't lie listen girl
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we don't know if you lie oh we do not we do not
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hate if you ain't cheating you're not trying but it was a deep arm bar so what are you gonna do yeah i mean she was
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definitely in a dangerous situation but again i was like i couldn't tell like i really can tell but i was stoked that
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they used instant replay yeah i was like oh my god we're finally using this thing that we've been talking about trying to get past the commission to use and we're
43:14
finally actually going to use it this is exciting yeah remember um it didn't show anything it's completely useless and
43:20
pointless but hey we used it right remember the fight um who was it it was
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uh the [ __ ] crazy guy with the crazy bloody fight and um
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ben askren and he fought in new york i think or but they fought um [ __ ] what's his name he's
43:41
super famous former champion bloody fight versus the red king
43:47
you know what i'm talking about totally yes um alrighty yeah
43:53
bobby robbie robbie robbie lawler right okay yeah he had a fight with ben askren
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and he was deep in a submission and herb dean stopped the fight even though he
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was giving him a thumbs up and as soon as they stopped the fight he was like what are you doing
44:11
and then immediately aft he's like what the [ __ ] and hurt dean's like oh [ __ ] i'm so sorry yes i remember that
44:18
moment and then he was like it's okay like he was such a g about it so classy he's so dude he's such a i would have
44:24
been like you better start this fight no that that is a classic
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he was super classy but let me just make sure i have the facts straight on that but yeah that that fight would have been saved by
44:38
instant replay yeah you know they would have reset them and continue to fight because the replay
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would have showed that he was fine or maybe i don't know i don't know if it's a if it's a choke if it has the same
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parameters but he was there like he was given a thumbs up and he was there when
44:56
when her dean pulled him off of him so it's kind of a kind of a crappy situation we have that
45:03
there's also there's a weird rule with instant replay in the event of what is it a tko or a knockout or or like a bad
45:11
call or bad stoppage like it still won't resume yeah what is that rule
45:17
it's it's a weird rule and i'm like if you're using instant replay it should be
45:22
able to restart the fight under any circumstances i'm not sure
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i forget what it is i have to look at it and we can talk about it next time but okay i remember there's a weird just
45:33
kind of little like little thing that just did not make sense to me because it's like instant
45:40
replay would be so useful in any fight in in so many different scenarios
45:46
and it should be able to be utilized maybe with the turning of instant replay now that it's like completely
45:51
legitimized that rule went away that's what i'm thinking because there's a lot of new rules like every now and then
45:57
you'll see the ref do this and that means that they're telling um the the commission people to watch the
46:04
tape of that moment that just happened to see if there was a foul that was committed so if there's a phantom eye
46:10
poke or a nut shot or something and the per the fighter complains but the ref
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didn't see it they'll go this and then the people who are watching the
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tape roll back and look at the instant replay and make sure that a foul did or didn't
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happen yeah so adjustments are made after that if there
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was a foul um i'm not sure what but it's they're they're trying to make it a little more fair in there do you know
46:39
what's getting past their eye i am so excited that is finally like a legitimate rule
46:45
because it needed to be forever oh no
46:50
i was gonna say this is a good time i didn't actually say it okay yeah yeah we're gonna tease you guys and you're
46:56
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