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UFC Vegas 93 Post-fight with UFC Strawweights Angela Hill and Jessica Penne
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Nov 6, 2024
It's a Happy Father's day for all of the MMA dads except for Michael Chandler who won't be getting those red panties he wanted. Let's talk UFC 303 shakeups and while everyone was too busy watching BOXING (and not of the Chael Sonnen-Anderson Silva variety) we're so dedicated we watched ALL of Saturday's latest Apex offering. Brought to you by Duelbits Bonus content available early through our brand spanking new YouTube subscription: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FaPU4wQCG9RdbNlMBI-fA/join 02:16 HAPPY FATHERS DAY! 04:45 Super butthurt about Tatsuro Vs Perez 16:50 Taira been listening to too much rap music 19:45 Fun names on this card 21:30 The scramble to save UFC 303 & Saudi card 24:25 how we’re liking the 303 matchups 30:35 Whittaker vs Alekserov 38:50 Miles Johns vs Silva De Andrade 45:04 Lucas Almeida vs Cuamba Whamba 48:10 Hiestand vs Armfield 51:51 Homeboy got denied the Demopoulus by Bisping, great showing by Westin Wilson 54:50 Jess got “Mean Girl”ed by Karolina Kowakawitxzc
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recording recording in the
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studio we actually knew the song we didn't didn't [ __ ] up which song
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we were talking about this time we got it hey what's up guys we're back we're
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back with another two straw justess still sick I know yo you need
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some tusen man I keep telling you I drank all the tessen did you I drink all the testin not enough I think I got the
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a bit of the cocoa I feel like a the co oh is that still a thing do they call it
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the Coco I don't know I do she's in love with the Coco I feel like I I mean I don't know
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if it's still I realized what I said after I
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yeah um yeah it could be that long one maybe I should put a mask on or something but you're here you're alive
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here not dying almost I mean I feel like I died a few times during training this week but here I am gosh yeah the Frog
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poison is keeping you alive it did I did two sessions back toback like a day or
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two apart so I feel like that really really you know just got it all out there you know it might be called
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Poison for a reason well you got to poison the poison huh see what I it's
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like double negative equals a positive that's my math I'm terrible at
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math by the way so don't yeah so are the Aztecs or wait who are
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they Incas who does the Frog poison who are The Originators of it I mean most of them do everybody has yeah everybody has
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like a their version indigenes yes they all have medicine people yeah shamm I
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hear I'm not great at math but they didn't need math no they they're good at math they had
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those cool pyramids and everything all that was math based they had the calendar the end of the world calendar
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that was almost true that none of us listened to the world almost ended what was it 1999 or something yeah yeah I
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mean it almost ended recently too so feel like well um today speaking of
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calendars today is our special Father's Day episode Happy Father's Day to all
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you fathers oh my gosh dude if there weren't so many uh fathers out there who
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were [ __ ] we wouldn't have so many female MMA fighters here are to the fathers that gave us enough issues to put us in the cage and not on the pole
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we would not have a showe division that's for sure to you hey thanks yeah just enough just a
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little bit of uh neglect just to give us enough angst to want to punch people in the face for a living especially men
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which we get to do a lot of yeah which is very triggering for a lot of guys like people who don't train they think
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that it's wild that we can train with guys and actually like beat them up yeah I don't think they they get it
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they've never been in that situation before youve never been in yeah I think uh if you listen to a lot of people's
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kind of origin story like a lot of guys who are getting in to the UFC or whatever they'll be like yeah one of the
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first sessions I had I got my ass kicked by this like tiny black belt woman and
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it showed me that I need to learn how to fight see I feel like a lot of a lot of males are raised by their mothers and
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you know know how to to not retaliate against a woman who's beating them up so
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thank you which is why I celebrate Father's Day with my
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mom my mom got a call today too a yay you were pulling you were pulling
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the weight for more than more than yourself um but yeah today is Father's
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day there's a ton of fathers in the UFC ton of fathers that are fighting right now um um I think uh I'm always a little
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jealous of the fact that guys can just like pop babies out left and right and still have like a fight
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Camp it didn't it didn't wreak havoc on their bodies you know they're inter internal organs they don't have to you
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know wake up every hour for feeding time they can still make training with a you know almost a full night of sleep yeah I
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mean we can be two weeks pregnant and if we pee on that stick and it comes back positive they'll be like yeah fights off
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like whoa whoa whoa whoa wa wait can I sign a waiver I mean technically it's not really a baby yet
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yeah loopholes gray area we need 10 weeks that's what the doctor said
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right oh God we're getting too political let's move on um the fights the fights
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were great um last night well some of them were and I was super butt hurt I
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don't know how you felt I was super butt hurt about the main
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how so cuz you didn't win your pick or why that was your pick too I know but I
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was butt hurt because of the way that it happened but also the leadup they were
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acting like Perez wasn't doing anything there did you listen to the commentary I listened to the commentary um I also
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listened to all of you know the behind the scenes videos and buildup videos
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that the OC was pushing out and everybody's labeling this young guy Tyra as the next UFC champion fly which he's
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very very talented he's 24 he was very impressive in this outing but I always feel a little bad for the other person
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it's like have I I know I have in my career I have been brought into to be the loser oh yeah against like the
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organization sweetheart or or the hometown person or or whatever have you I've been you know brought in as the
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person that's probably not going to win um and you know sometimes I I've I've had you know quite a few upsets in my
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day well it's great when you ruin the narrative but yeah yeah but it's I always kind of feel for the other person
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on on the opposite side of that because it's you know it's it's challenging to prepare
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for a fight knowing that you're not the favorite or yeah KN that people aren't even giving you a [ __ ] chance no for
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sure um I was at pfl this weekend and you can see the craziest case of that
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with the British girl that they're pushing they are not shy about it at all no it's like every commercial break hey
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look at what this girl ate for breakfast next commercial break hey this is her training for the next fight then
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training for the belt even though we haven't had her fight beforehand happen yet you know was like very heavy-handed
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with that and I know it must have been really hard for uh Chelsea hacket that's who she fought this time it must have been really hard for her to walk into
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that it is I mean mentally you have to be just really focused really centered and really intentional with with what
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you're doing with what your goal is but even I I feel like even the most grounded person can get you know kind of
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swayed by that kind of uh push that the organization gives yeah but with uh
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Perez he did not look sede at all no he's a professional he's a veteran dude
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he came in there um with like the game plan set he was going into uh thingy
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boxing range getting past the straights hitting him Landing combinations and I felt like the commentators were like
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drawn cuz they didn't see it it might have been the angle too because whenever I
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hear really heavy-handed commentary on one side I try not to jump to conspiracy
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you know because I started commentating a little bit with cage Warriors and I know how things can like look a lot
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different in person than they look when you watch it back and you're like H why did I say that um but in this case it
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there was a lot of um there was a lot of Flowery language towards uh Tyra even
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though he was losing the round he didn't really do much in that round he was able to uh I guess keep Perez from really
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hurting him he was able to stifle him with that Plum with the Muay Thai clinch and uh stop him from getting any really
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bad offense out but Perez was nailing him over and over again getting past his
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like straights like doing that same dip that he uh got what's the name with um
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uh Nicola uh that same like dip punch that he kept C that he ended up catching
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him with and dropping him in his last fight so I'm like o this this could be another upset because I don't think he
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was supposed to win the last one too and he just keeps getting these matchups where he's facing the next top guy the
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next like you know it guy the next Challenger and he keeps showing up and Performing really well um so this one I
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was like man I think he's I think he's got his number he was ducking out of the way of all the jump knees as well
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everything uh tyer was throwing at him that was really nasty was missing not Landing a mark he didn't get his range
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yet but then in that second round he got that takedown got on his back and it was
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such a freak accident like I'm I'm kind of annoyed that people are saying he did
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it on purpose like it's a TKO yeah I can under I can understand where your
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frustration is that it was kind of a freak injury um I think that what Alex
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Perez did that was you know it's the classic matchup when you're fighting someone who's a sniper in Striking who's
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very precise and prec uh uh who's so precise you have to brawl them and
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that's what he did he was able to get in there and just like get really grimy and dirty with it he wasn't worried about
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making it look pretty and I thought that was really impressive against such a
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um precise I keep saying this [ __ ] word uh such a precise Striker he put it
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in your head cuz it's like yeah it's great if you could throw a straight punch but if the straight punches aren't
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Landing why are you giving the person credit you know it it was just really frustrating for me as a striker to watch
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this guy throw one two um get the one two slipped and then he gets hit with a
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counter hook and then people call that brawling versus the guy throwing a onew
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that missed you know what I mean like that frustrates me too um watching that
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and not seeing Perez get the credit for the strikes that were landed because they were tight hooks he was they were
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planned attacks he wasn't just going crazy in there like it really felt like they had this mapped out like this
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is going to work this attack is going to work and they kept it tight enough that uh Tyra wasn't able to counter him when
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he did start to flurry I can see I think that they did give Perez a little bit of credit as to
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his strategy did yeah um Dominic is always very very neutral and and
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balanced and he he doesn't have a ton of bias so I really appreciate his Insight in it so I think that that was
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acknowledged but it was very evident that Tyra was was a favorite was
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somebody that they saw winning and see a clear path to you know potentially fighting for the belt and potentially
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winning he's a very talented young man I I was impressed in the second round when
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he got the takedown took his back um I loved the body triangle with the leg
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lace and I loved how he was just kind of writing prz in this weird way trying to
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off-balance him it was it was very unorthodox secet technique it was only Tyra knows Tyra will not tell you about
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that Technique we saw it we we witnessed it firsthand we can break it down um so
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I think he's he's young and talented and I do think you know he has a high ceiling I still think it's a little bit
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early but if I do know the UFC I know that they're going to give him some good
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matchups so that he can really showcase himself I think that Perez was a really risky fight but he's kind of like the
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the Donald Cerrone of the flight weight division you know he's always a tough fight he's always a gamer kind of a
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keystone fighter so I think that they thought that this would be a really tough fight for Tyra something that he
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could you know either be exposed by or you know showcase and I think he he did
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expose a bunch in that first round absolutely uh even though the commentators didn't give him credit for
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it bisbing it's the only one I'm talking about I think he job yeah no he did a
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really great job and it sucks that it ended with that injury because he was still very much in that fight you know
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the kid got on his back but he was doing a great job of Defending it really felt like uh just being unfamiliar with what
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he was doing led him to planting his foot in a way that just wasn't good for
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the direction that his body was going yeah he did this crazy torque where he reached and grabbed the opposite side
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side arm and he just kind of twerked him and created this this weird twerking motion and I think that's what ended up
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twerking um I think that's what ended up messing up his knee and and I hope it's nothing too serious uh with you know a
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long lengthy recovery kind of thing but it was it was just one of those freak kind of things that took him out of the
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fight where normally I don't think that that would have been a fight ending move that wouldn't have been a a TKO scenario
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I would see Perez you know defending and fighting and getting back up to his feet
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as he does yeah unless the secret technique is blowing out his training
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partner's knee well tried true and T tested we're gonna have to ask his
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training Partners if that's something that he does on purpose yeah I wonder if uh he a long line of people on this the
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disabled list in his gym cuz it's like people who they'll do certain moves and
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they'll do them in a way where it hurts people and it's so consistent that it
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almost seems like it's on purpose like in the training room you know what I mean yeah I mean like that trip takedown
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a lot of people do like the double leg with the trip sometimes if you get it just right you land on the person's knee
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hyperextend it there's moves like that where some people are just really good
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at landing on it in a way that hurt the train fighers yeah I I personally love
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the lazy men double I like to kind of cartwheel over so I'm avoiding that new situation there's
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also um uh you know some single some positions from single leg which I like
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to do they're more Judy Jiu-Jitsu takedowns and I don't ever do those in training I look I acknowledge I see it
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but it's not something that I'm going to do to a training partner because it could be potentially you know
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devastating injury and I don't want to do that to my training Partners it's really important to take care of your training Partners I hate seeing fights
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end in in injury and being called a TKO it's really frustrating it's really heartbreaking I don't think it's a TKO
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even though they're too Jess's butt also
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hurts it's a little sore uh but yeah it's one of those
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things that I I feel like there should be another term for it yeah
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unintentional injury stoppage I don't know I know it doesn't roll off the tongue as well it's
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kind of like a doctor stoppage like the person didn't intentionally injure the
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thing that got injured but the fighter can't continue because something they did so it's kind of like a do a doctor's
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stoppage like when you see a cut that wasn't really that devastating but the
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doctor gets in and stops it even though the person could continue to fight and defend themselves I feel like that would
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be a fair thing but then it's all semantics you know like yeah it's hard
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to really think I feel like it was kind of a a a submission feel like a
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technical submission would make more sense like a lot of times when someone doesn't tap but they scream out in pain
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and the ref stops it it's a technical submission so I feel like that would make more sense than a TKO I like Dr
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stoppage I think that that you know raises eyebrows and questions a little bit more than what happened exactly let
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me investigate exactly rather than just scrolling down and you see win win win win win loss loss loss loss yeah Alex
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Press sucks SL you lost you got knocked out by that kid you know and and it feels like they're trying to like keep
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building on this story like oh this kid's a a knockout artist I hear what you're
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saying it it plays to his future it plays to all come out into the wash
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eventually we'll see just how good he is but right now I'm very skeptical but uh
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what did you think about his postf fight speech I was trying to figure out what he said right here he said line them up
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is that what wait everybody in the division line them up in front of me hold up I got the audio for you and you
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tell me what he
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said he's very excited what what what did that sound
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like I don't know it sounded like excitement I'm
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happy I'm not tracking sorry I'm sorry I'm not y he was he was amped but I feel
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like he said some Mike Perry stuff right
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there you don't hear it I don't hear it what am I supposed to hear he's happy
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[ __ ] oh I can't say that but you heard it well now I did you
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heard it now no I didn't hear that before he was very
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happy he was very excited he just had his first Main Event Victory as long as
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he doesn't use of a hard art I'm okay with I really want to know what he
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actually said I know he didn't say that but I know he was trying to say something in
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English I oh I didn't know if he was speaking English or not yeah that was English I'm happy okay and Michael
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vising just goes yes you seem very happy
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good for him that I that's that's a huge moment you know no no it is it is he I'm sure he was stoked after that like when
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you get a win you don't care how it happens um you're not overthinking it especially when you're a young kid like
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that undefeated getting like a big test big Main Event spot so yeah I know he
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was stoked um but yeah I'm still a little butt hurt for Perez because I know how hard it looked like he worked
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for this fight for the comeback just uh having hard fight after hard fight
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showing up for this one um doing really well when he had um what was his name MV
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uh when he first came back and getting that knockout and now he's has this freak injury that might take him out
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even longer like that that really makes me upset
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but it is what it is yeah not everyone can be happy
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[ __ ] no no not all of us can not everyone can um aside from the main event um or that
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fight card it kind of felt like it was thrown together but there was a lot of
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news outside of you know the actual fight card that was happening this week
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yeah there was a lot do you want to do you want to dive into that do you want to take a break from the Apex fights
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yeah I mean I think a lot of people took a break from those fights there were some good fights there
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are some good fight you know what as I was watching I was like I was taking some notes I'm like oh you know I really like how this person did that oh I
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really like this I really like this defensively offensively there were some like I I took a lot of good notes yeah
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you know whenever I have a fight card where I don't really recognize a lot of names some names stand out to me um it's
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like when when Johnny Walker first came on to the scene and we're like oh my God his name is Johnny Walker how funny is
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that cheers um or like uh Rob fine all I could do is make punctuation
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jokes um but like yeah a couple a couple names stood out to me like uh you had um
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[ __ ] it yeah even though he's been around for a while but he whenever I see
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him on the card I'm like [ __ ] it yeah [ __ ] it put him on I feel like this card
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was kind of put together like that like uh f it yeah Shelby and Shelby and Mick
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were just in the room like [ __ ] it put them all together let's let's get these guys a fight they have haven't fought in
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a while and then uh Josephine
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nutson her nickname should be your chin Josephine well I guess you can't
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put the the thing at the end but you could say Josephine that's in you that works yeah you could do last
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you can do it first middle last you can do whatever you want it is your nickname okay yeah say it how you want it yeah I
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like that I like that Josephine think of that for your next fight don't don't listen to her she's setting you up yeah
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but um there was some crazy news outside of it uh we had Conor pulling out they finally admitted it they had been acting
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like it wasn't happening why else would a press conference get canceled stop it he pulled out he couldn't get on the
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flight because he was in surger he has a private jet stop it he could get anywhere you want faster than most of us
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he didn't want that swelling in his knee to happen when he uh hit altitude well it's still undisclosed
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mhm but you're thinking it's a it's a big bad one I don't know cuz it seemed
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like they had it under control like it seemed like there was a scare and then
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people were like oh don't worry Conor showing up everything's A- okay and then you get the announcement that they're
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not doing it and um you know you had certain media sites like uh helani was reporting that there were fillers out
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then the fillers stopped and then they started again again so it feels like negotiation
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tactics well you got to want like people are always wanting to break news so you
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know that there was no news being being leaked so I think like it was very hush hush nobody want to say anything because
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either nobody knew something or they knew it was going to be really bad yeah well you don't want to be the person
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unless you're Brazilian media you don't want to be the person that breaks the news before the UFC wants you to because
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that gets you kind of nixed from a lot of uh yeah opportunities that you can go
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to like you'll get on The Black List so a lot of people were not breaking the
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news but saying what was happening like uh Fighters were reporting that they
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were getting hit up and we we've been there before that happens before a fight
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is announced that like it's been cancelled they'll send out fillers and ask Fighters like hey would you be able
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to fill in on a day's notice on a week's notice blah blah blah blah so I think that was happening and those Fighters
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either the fighters or their managers were reporting to Media like hey yeah this is this is actually going down like
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we think Connor is out so when it finally happened everyone's just like yeah yeah anyway and I think they just
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wanted to wait until they had uh Replacements set up like good replacements that were going to not take
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away from the ticket sales not get everyone to cancel their flights and hotels and stuff and still come to the fights um and I think they did as good
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as they could you know like obviously Conor McGregor is the biggest star in
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the UFC even now being super inactive but they filled the Gap with a lot of
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the biggest stars in the UFC which are oh you want me to keep talking all
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right I felt like I was talking too much which are you were going on no you you got which are uh Jerry
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cha uh Alex perea he's going to be defending his belt against yri
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um which you know it it is what it is I think I don't think he has much to prove
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in that matchup but short notice this could be good for Jerry this could be a
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way for him to like come in with a sneaker plan do something crazy um then
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you have Brian Ortega popping in he's gonna fight Diego Lopez Ortega is one of
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the UFC heart throbs and then Diego Lopez is like young hungry monster like
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this this is one of those kids coming up that I I'll get behind because he's already had those tough fights and he's
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just been showing up every time destroying people and then you have
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Anthony Smith coming through he's gonna fight Carlos olberg who's another person
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who hasn't really been tested yet and Anthony Smith is a hype train recer
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he [ __ ] up every plan that the UFC has like you got to put Anthony Smith against another veteran otherwise he's
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going to [ __ ] up your your whole like buildup for a fighter I really like how
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Anthony Smith has um just kind of researched he he was kind of like in a
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lull for a little bit but he done it before too he has he's uh he's had a bit of a of an Epson flow in his fight as
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you know many people do it's it's really hard fighting at the highest level so stuff happens but I was really impressed
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how he shut down the the newcomer his last fight and I love that he's so willing and able to step up on such a
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short notice it's it's really buming me out about Jamal Hill having to pull out
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of a fight even though because he was so excited to get back in there yeah and you know just get back to work and to
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have you know another big injury as this is just you know I mean it's part for the course but it's also just really
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frustrating um so wish him very speedy recovery yeah same um I I wasn't super
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mad about it though just because I feel like he came back so soon to save a card
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that's hard after a big knockout too yeah but like before that when he when he fought um P this was relatively short
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notice since his injury like he had a really nasty injury and he got back to training a little sooner than he wanted
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to and after getting knocked out like that he's get jumping right back in
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right back like a few months afterwards and I really feel like it takes a long time for your brain to heal um it was a
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nasty knockout you know and I think um against someone like oberg too if
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anything you're giving a young fresh hungry guy a better chance of knocking
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you out if you just got knocked out sure it's it's unfortunate that it is an
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injury however it's one of those situations where I think um people can find the silver lining in these kind of
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situations like everything happens for me that kind of mentality so I understand what you're saying because
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having such a big devastating knockout can make you more prone to having
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another one we've seen it before time and time again especially in those big weight classes where you know people
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have one punch knockout it's um it's really important to to protect yourself
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and let your body heal let your brain heal yeah so I I do think that you know
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his his Spirit guides had his back yeah look at vosi you know he prime example got knocked out by a big old guy then
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went back and fought toor and got knocked out again and this is something that hadn't happened to him before you
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know so it's like getting that knockout button touch can definitely um just rattle your brain and make it a lot
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easier for it to happen over and over again if you don't give yourself the proper time to heal because it's not
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just the fight where you're taking brain damage you're taking brain damage every day in Camp when you're running when
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you're on the treadmill when you're hitting pads like all that is shaking your brain up and not letting it get
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back to where it can handle a little Shake every now and then so getting back to um the normal routine getting back to
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fight Camp too soon can definitely be detrimental to to your uh
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concussions no it it Absolut sorry I'm watching your dog chew on it was
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adorable please don't stop his little allergies are getting him um so yeah I'm
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I'm like happy sad about the Jamal Hill match um I feel like Anthony Smith is is
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probably in a in better shape to take those punches and kicks right now and he's definitely going to go in there
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with the game plan to Grapple you know why wouldn't you why wouldn't you he can stand with everyone but he does better
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on the ground like he has that like nasty advantage on the ground against someone who's a little more green who
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hasn't felt someone who's super slick down there um and he has a weth of knowledge too I feel like knowledge does
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you better in grappling than it does in Striking because sometimes you overthink in the Striking moments and when you get
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on top of someone you know more than them a lot of times it's easier to just impose your will even if you're not the
29:50
strongest the fastest the most most athletic it's easier to control the pace of the fight yeah uh when you have a
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little bit more ground knowledge I I I absolutely agree and especially in those weight classes like we were just saying
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when people have you know one punch knockout which alberg has an amazing check hook and he's very precise with it
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um that just you don't want to give that person the opportunity to capitalize on what they're good at you want to take
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them out of their game impose your will and and take the fight into where you
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have more dominance whiches on the ground for him so um I I'm going to make
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a a submission prediction already oh W jumping the gun I know wow well hold up
30:34
we still got another fight announcement that happened uh the guy who we did the pick on that we didn't really know
30:40
anything about but you so cleverly picked him because he uh had no
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mustache he was supposed to fight troli and I picked him because he had a fun name to say and poor troli doesn't have
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a fighting more because Alex gurov is now fighting Robert Whitaker crazy in
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frakin Saudi Arabia right crazy that card I swear chamv is out that was
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another one [ __ ] poor Dana was in the
31:16
ICU what I gonna do what I gonna do Sean Shelby and makeer hold in his hands like it's okay Dana we got this don't worry
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don't worry we got this D you're [ __ ] better yeah yeah uh jayv is out too but
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uh Alex gurov got the call up to go fight in Saudi Arabia so that's a pretty big bump for him it's huge yeah it's
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huge it's a huge opportunity that you absolutely cannot turn down even if it against uh Bobby Knuckles yeah yeah
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you're going to take that and uh Alex scov has no mustache like we said so
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definitely going to be going in there with the game plan to take him down shut him down on the ground make sure you
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can't throw them crazy kicks and punches and you know good karate stab Stomps to
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the knee that he likes to throw um it's going to be a fun you know you always get these stylistic matchups when you
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get the Oles and uh it's going to be fun seeing what Whitaker does with this
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switch up of opponents apparently he didn't know he was before he got the call he was like whatever watch some
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tape like all right yeah let's do it and that's kind of the attitude you have to
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have when you're in his in his like boat you know when you're when you fought the
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best you're right up there in the top five but you need to do something ridiculous in order to get back in that
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title title shot mode um in order to do that he has to fight the young hungry
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people the guys who are dangerous that nobody knows and then once he get a couple of those ons back people are like
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yeah he's still one of the best in the weight class so let's see him fight for the title again well he is is he may not
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have the belt but he is a champion he has that Championship heart mindset and
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he's already been compeed against the best of the best so I feel like you know whatever this person throws at him he'll
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be prepared for and especially in camp training for kayv you know that's that's
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a tall order right there that's a really tough fight I'm sure he was already you know working on his of defenses yeah
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it's the same game plan pretty much pretty much maybe less strike I don't know I haven't watched tape but uh kamay
33:31
has like some really nasty striking so if anything maybe it's a dow grade of of
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opponent maybe it's uh you know still just as dangerous but he has a little more tricks that he can pull off against
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this guy that he wasn't really thinking about with kayv it potential I mean you know
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anything can happen in an MMA fight and anything can happen you know stylistically we don't know what he's
33:53
going to come in with and uh the commentary desk was talking a lot about you know oh there's not a ton of footage
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on him blah blah blah but again Mr Whitaker um has been facing the top of
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the top for a very long time and I'm sure that he can you know even with limited footage and and limited
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knowledge of the person I'm sure that he'll be prepared yeah if anything it it'll make him more uh in the moment and
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kind of you know kind of working with what he sees
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and not trying to over prepare it might be a breath of fresh air to fight someone new and um where you don't have
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much to go off of but you just got to go in there knowing hey I'm I'm the [ __ ] best so that'll be a fun
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one too we get to watch that next week um and yeah there were a lot of
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more fun fights on the card too that we can talk about now that we're done with
34:48
all the frakin announcements but yeah that was pretty crazy all the like switching around I
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feel like kayab is just uh anytime he's on a heart there's just going to be this crazy switch up like you remember when he was supposed to fight Nate Diaz and
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then all of a sudden he fought um oh my God Holland Holland yeah and I
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just the whole the whole mixup he's just um the kamay of curse he's just I don't
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know what he's doing what did they ever say what happened did he get injured yeah no apparently he got sick
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apparently he is is um you know deathly ill I don't know if he's deathly ill but
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he's very ill and he had to pull out of this fight and this is the second time he's had to pull out of a fight because
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of severe health issues and this is the second time that he has been quoted as contemplating retirement the first time
35:41
he pulled out he was supposed to fight somebody from I think he was supposed to fight some no he fought somebody from China he was supposed to fight someone
35:48
and he had covid yeah and they kept telling him hey chill like this will pass you'll get back in shape because he
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was ready to retire back then um and and now again he's kind of having the same experience unfortunately it's it's hard
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a fighter not being healthy enough to to train to compete that's I understand
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that that's very scary but we can't you know react to respond On Emotion just yet it's a it's a khabib curse because
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khabib had that same problem where he couldn't get to a fight week that often
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and all these people were like wanting to fight him couldn't make it to the fight week eventually he got the title
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but like he didn't really have to fight that often compared to how long he was in the UFC because of that so um you
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know Jamay was kind of in the same boat he's getting fights cancelled getting
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things switched around people are still kind of D doubtful of how good he is
36:44
because he just doesn't show up as often as the people who are in the top top so it's kind of uh I always feel like it's
36:51
a little unfair too when when one fighter gets this kind of jump in the line if you will or they get a place
36:58
they get a big be right back I'm going to run to the restroom yeah meanwhile everyone else is fighting their heart
37:04
out it's like the person who takes a break during sparring and then three rounds later three rounds later hey no
37:12
sweat on ready to go everyone's dying laying down on the floor uh that's what
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he's doing with his uh placeholder right now so yeah good term um but yeah every
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everyone kind of showed up uh they were able to pull all these Fighters out of the woodwork to save the shows and I
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think they did a good job uh I wonder how how butt hurt N word of the day how
37:37
butt hurt the Connor fans are going to be but I think the actual MMA fans who aren't casuals are going to appreciate
37:43
this card I think so I mean as you were saying he's the biggest UFC star that is
37:50
not even fighting anymore but he's you know he's a household name he's you know
37:56
entertaining he's you know that you'll always show up to see win or lose whether you you know love him or hate
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him so I understand how people would be upset because it's been so inti I mean we've been promoting this fight against
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Chandler for what two years did we say forever it's been
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promoted for a really long time so it's just so anticlimactic it's it's very
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frustrating I understand people want to see him fight how many uh proper 12 bottles of proper 12 you think he down
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this weekend no more than he was Downing during
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Camp damn it Conor oh yeah um so the co
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main was Silva dandr versus uh
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lightskinn Wilson Hayes yeah light skin is his actual name um yes miles Johns
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and um that got bumped up because we lost our alexov uh comain um I thought it was an
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interesting fight um but the most interesting part about it was that I picked lightskin Wilson Hayes so it
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looks like I won again oh wow wow what are we gonna what are we going to make
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you do this time I don't know we didn't talk about it ahead of time we'll figure it out on the break John looked jnes
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looked really good I was really impressed by by his power by his footwork by um just his uh assertiveness
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in all of his positions and controlling the range however I I feel like he was
39:43
falling into this thing where he knows the power he has so he wasn't setting his stuff up you know he was throwing
39:50
really big shots which you know were Landing connecting but it's really hard to um you know put somebody put somebody
39:57
away like Silva he I mean he was close it seemingly close a couple of times he caught him really good and Silva ate the
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shots it was it was just kind of um I was just noticing how the power that he
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had he was relying on too much instead of mixing it up more yeah it was it was
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um I don't know whenever you have that that body type that's kind of what I
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expect from someone that like a explosive kind of compact body type
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that's what I say he looks like a Wilson hay it's like you're you're just exploding to every punch exploding into
40:33
every kick um I thought he get did a good job of just kind of walking him down trying to stay out of Harm's Way
40:41
when um silad Dan dve will come forward and throw his combinations um but like
40:48
he got a little predictable with the circling and every time he circled silan
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D would throw that like big wheel kick and almost got him in the third round like that was I was like ooh I bet you
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SC I bet that was scary for your corner I bet they were like you won you won the
41:06
fight and then you let that [ __ ] happen because you kept circling uh in the same direction and uh that kick is a wild one
41:14
because you'll kind of feel like you're out of range cuz you're going this way and then the person literally turns
41:20
around and then their leg becomes twice as long when it hits you in the face and
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there's so much momentum and torque on it yeah cuz they're basically turning around like turn around and then that
41:32
Hill smacks you and it doesn't matter where it hits you your hand can be up you can it can hit you on the top of the
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head either way it [ __ ] you up so he was like kind of wobbly for a while he
41:45
did a good job of just circling and staying safe when that happened but I
41:50
was like oh man he might be able to drop him here and uh I feel bad laughing but
41:58
when they had their little uh mock Max Holloway moment in the middle of the
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cage I was like don't do that it's just so how influential is Max Holloway
42:09
because I can't count on my hand how many times I've seen someone point to the ground and do that at the end of a
42:17
fight like it's happened it's happened so much he's a trend Setter it's happen so much it's more popular that's more
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popular than the calf kick you know like it just like exploded out of nowhere and
42:30
um yeah it it reminded me of when you see the kids sparring cuz they're so
42:37
little there there was a lot of whiffing in that com in that exchange they did that and then they missed a lot of the
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punches it was it was really cute um it was cute I'll tell them I'll tell them
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he said that itute it was cute he's going to will kick me for that like [ __ ] heel to the eyeball um but I
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thought it was cute it's just crazy to me um how influential that fight was the
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fact that everyone sits there and they and they do that now they point at the ground and they do that
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um yeah but I I don't know I feel like that was kind of risky for for um miles
43:14
Johns to engage in that when he was already up no no no you're winning don't do that he just got kicked in the head
43:21
like that that was pretty risky for him but good on uh good on that guy I think he I think he has a a solid style and
43:28
he's going to give a lot of people problems but yeah like you said you got to be able to mix it up more you got to be able to keep them guessing so you can
43:35
land those power shots more often um and it was a good fight to show him the risk
43:41
of not mixing up more from exploding doing your combo and then becoming a
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little predictable on the retreat because you can give your opponent that you were handling pretty soundly a
43:53
chance to get back in that fight yeah there were so many moments of just separation and kind of um you know at
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kicking range yeah that allowed for Silva to be able to to throw those kicks and they were naked like nothing was set
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up my baby um you know nothing was set up with those kicks that they were just thrown because there was a lull in the
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action so if he had just been fainting putting his punches out um just doing
44:18
something to keep Silva distracted for those big shots I think he could have ended up you know getting a TKO putting
44:25
out being the first person to put out yeah yeah but instead he gave Silva you know
44:31
opportunities uh you know to play his game opportunities to potentially you know end the night early hey one thing
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Silva is over 35 and not once they called him old wow good job guys good job guys wow
44:46
you guys you're really you're really doing something they were saving up their energy so they can talk up
44:51
everything that Tyra wasn't doing in the next fight but but at least they was
44:58
letting him fight without reminding everyone that he's over 35 oh my God shoot him shoot him take him out to the
45:06
pasture um the Kua versus Almeida fight was uh pretty interesting one I was so
45:14
mad when they called Almeida a striking black belt well it's the the Kings until
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he dropped the guy which is which is like two seconds and to the first round
45:27
I was like black belt is striking my oh okay actually now you get a stripe so in
45:35
uh in Kings Amma man a lot of like the Brazilian Muay Thai gyms they they do belt rankings for their you know for
45:41
their athletes so that's where that comes from but I it always makes my ears perk up just a little bit I'm like it's
45:48
like are you a boxing black belt are you a wrestling black belt yes no we don't call it that some
45:56
disciplines don't don't need a belt system yeah you just get in there and
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[ __ ] people up and then you're like yeah but then it's like participation points like it feels good to to know where
46:07
you're at I I understand it's a morale booster it gives people a goal I
46:13
understand you know theoretically I just it's just weird to say as a pro fighter
46:20
that you're a black belt in this when it's like yeah you
46:27
you're fighting people I know should kick people proficiently you're at the level where you know you either have to
46:35
be or you're not going to say you're not you know like imagine going to there oh
46:40
I'm a I'm a striking yellow belt I'm a blue belt and striking yeah no you're not g to say that you're not gonna just
46:46
get in there and do your thing it's not it's not a thing but yeah I understand that some schools are like that it's
46:53
just funny to have that in your bio to me is it in is it in his bio it was the
46:58
commentator said it so I thought he had it on Instagram oh maybe I haven't checked I haven't
47:04
creeped on him yet that's cute um but like I wasn't mad for that long because
47:10
he strikes like a striking black belt dude looked like a welterweight in there
47:16
yeah he was huge was so big at featherweight uh but hats off to kba for
47:22
you know toughing through he kba WBA kba was he gets knocked out he get up again
47:30
never going to keep him down yeah he was he was a gamer the whole time uh got
47:36
dropped pop back up got dropped again pop back up and then he went and won the last round like I was I was really
47:42
impressed I was like why didn't you do that in the first two I know I'm like you could have done that the whole time
47:47
I didn't even know you were grappling I know we didn't know you were good at that why why did you say that you were a
47:54
grappling black belt Ste Cooper Why didn't you tell him to do that earlier oh sometimes you just don't believe in
48:01
it until you get it and then it's too late like well next fight I'll try that
48:06
sooner I I was just like what yeah out of nowhere yeah no
48:13
that was that was a good fight I thought that one might have gotten fight a night too it was just a lot of back and forth but it wasn't as crazy as uh highand is
48:22
that how you say it high stand highand in Armfield like it wasn't as crazy is that fight a fun fight I don't know why
48:29
that didn't get fight of the night it got performance but I do feel bad because but it takes two cuz Armstead
48:34
was I mean he almost submitted him in the first round Armfield Armfield I just
48:41
combined I made them a a power couple yeah celebrity couple I'd watch you
48:48
fight anything Armstead fight coming at you I thought it was such a fun fight it
48:54
was so technical they both had such great offense and defense the both of them um I yeah none neither one of them
49:02
were were out in that fight I mean until it was over but I just thought it was such a great grappling matchup and the
49:10
the fortitude of heand was was just really impressive I learned a lot in
49:15
that fight you mean hind arm sorry yes no I don't I I'm learning link together
49:22
dude I'm learning these guys names for the first time so it's it's uh you know
49:28
not surprising that you do that even in the first round I thought that uh uh
49:34
heinan was the one who had arm fill in an arm bar and then I heard the
49:40
commentary say he was just in a submission now he's on top and in his own submission and I'm like oh wait that was a different guy like it was such a
49:48
tumble weed of like grappling that I was I just assumed that the guy who had the
49:54
submission locked in went to the next submission that was a really crazy moment that armar to the guillotine to
50:01
all this other crazy [ __ ] happening yeah it was a really fun fight I enjoyed that
50:07
immensely yeah um I thought it was uh funny how he kind of like when the when
50:13
the guy would get on his back he tried to flop backwards yeah because it worked the
50:18
first time but you can't go to the well with that one every time it it's usually
50:23
like it works well once with those kind of um like the stand up rear naked like
50:30
like they're standing you get on the back yeah it's one of those things where it it if it didn't work the first time
50:38
most likely your opponent is going to be ready to counter it and um you know
50:44
capitalize off of it the next time you go for it it's it's one of those kind of sporadic moves you just like throw in
50:50
there see if it sticks if it doesn't you you got to abandon it yeah at the same time though that would have saved Perez
50:56
his knee if he had flopped when the guy started doing the pole
51:03
dance it was a b no I know yeah maybe he was doing pole
51:09
class maybe that's the secret technique that's why he didn't want to tell us he doesn't want other Fighters go in the
51:15
pole dance class you know how much I mean you and I both know how much
51:20
strength it takes to climb that pole to use your legs and your whole body to
51:25
like rip it that was called she called that something I forget what it was but that was when we uh lean
51:32
over that one yeah but then our leg goes up yeah yeah but it's the same thing
51:38
that he was doing on that far leg oh yeah that's what we were doing on the pole with our thighs mhm strippers would
51:44
make great Grapplers they would they're St as [ __ ] yeah
51:50
theopus Vanessa deop Point proven oh my god did you see the guy try to do the
51:55
deop yes on his F fight so I was I I was pretty um did he didn't get a um he
52:05
didn't get a win bonus did he no not to my knowledge I feel like he should have because he was not supposed to win that
52:11
fight no that was for Jaa yeah he was not supposed to win that fight he had got knocked out his first two UFC fights
52:18
and this was his third and Jaa kns people out like that's what he does yeah
52:24
and it was his um I'm pretty sure it was his first time at feather wait he fought um Jubilee H Jubilee the first
52:34
ever Indian national note not tuba or whatever her name tuba her name was like
52:41
tuba something Toma it was something like that it starts with t yeah but not her
52:49
it was him Jubilee yes um not otomar
52:55
Puja not pooa Tomar I put it together like
53:01
you did I put pooa and Tomar together and I came up with
53:08
tuba the name was in my brain somewhere and that's what came out uh but jubile
53:15
is the actual first Indian uh UFC fighter to win a fight get your [ __ ]
53:22
straight MMA media two straws with the EXP
53:27
um yeah so that was Jack's last fight and then he moved up and he moved down oh he moved down okay yeah yeah so this
53:36
was supposed to be you know um I feel like it was supposed to be a matchup where he could really showcase he he got
53:42
a little cheeky in the beginning and did like the glove touch you know strike right off of it which you so got some
53:50
Instinct Cara right there I I never like those I understand it you know I understand when somebody's excited they
53:55
want to you know get the party already started and stuff but I also do like sportsmanship yeah don't touch gloves
54:01
and and then uh he even said that oh Weston Wilson said that afterwards he
54:07
was like yeah they always tell me that they always get mad at me for not touching gloves so I did it and I'm never doing it again no i' I've seen it
54:15
multiple I've cornered people multiple times and it's happened and it always makes me mad it always makes me want to
54:20
fight their Corners yeah I don't and I think the I think a lot of times the coaches are kind of like h
54:27
when you when your fighter does that like I don't think any coach actually teaches that no unless you're from like
54:34
Cobra Kai or some [ __ ] but the leg Yeah do all the dirty things do all the dirty
54:40
things um but yeah I think usually when a corner or when when a fighter does
54:46
that everyone's just like [ __ ] that guy yeah I hope they they have a nice talking to in the I never tap gloves I
54:54
just avoid I I don't want I'm like I'm not your friend I'm we're we're just going to do it at the end not doing it
55:01
beforehand I'm pretty sure I've only done it once and I did it begrudgingly because it was kolina because she's adorable and I'm
55:07
like a okay least he still ripped her arm off I
55:14
did I did and I'll do it again oh man she was talking mad [ __ ] to you beforehand I would not have touched was
55:20
super Shady but I was like you know what after after I beat you up that'll be my
55:26
way of getting back at you for all of the [ __ ] you were the Shady stuff you were saying to exactly I like so lowkey
55:32
too I'm like you are not as nice as I thought you were I really liked you she mean girl you she did she she mean girl
55:40
you I can't believe that she went uhuh oh nice shirt did you get that at thrift
55:47
[Music] store [ __ ] wow oh your grappling is so good
55:54
are you sure you're a black belt yeah [ __ ] watch this but no what did
56:00
she actually say to you for the people who haven't heard the story she said y want says
56:06
hello I'm like girl stop it tell her I said hi too tell her that I'll come see
56:12
her soon you should have uh taken that arm home and sent it to her you know what I was going to say something super
56:18
Shady to her afterwards but I didn't cuz I felt like you know I just well you
56:23
said enough with your fighting but what were you going to say what I come on you didn't actually
56:31
say it I don't know I don't know in the moment I was going to be super CUNY but ah you got to tell me after oh maybe
56:37
we'll make that exclusive member content find out what Jess was gonna say
56:44
to karolina before she had a [Music] conscience oh yeah so good for him um
56:52
kind of the same thing happened in with Jaa that happened with with Kevin Holland's opponent the last uh couple
56:59
weeks ago he was out of the armar and he was like I'mma punch this
57:06
guy went right back in no you you just listen I understand
57:14
you thought the fight was almost over you just wanted to put a stamp on it you wanted to get out there early you wanted
57:19
to start the party you know all that stuff you want to get some like food and drinks and you I get it you just you
57:25
have to really just be aware of where your limbs are in a fight when you're
57:32
going against a black belt especially it's when someone can break your arm against anyone if you're in that
57:38
position where their legs are around your arm and your elbow is right outside of the danger zone don't go back in like
57:46
don't give them opport an opportunity to like suck you back in what was it
57:51
suction crotch Su crotch Su crotch suck that thing right up like a spaghetti
57:58
noodle people don't realize the danger especially when they don't feel the torque yet and I think if you haven't
58:05
been in in that position before the red flags don't go off you know you don't get to like get out of there that you do
58:13
when you have the amount of M mat time that gives you those like awareness
58:18
things and I think that's a big thing that a lot of the road to the UFC guys are missing especially from like
58:24
Indonesia and Indian and stuff they don't have that same like worldly look
58:30
at grappling that we have somewhere like in California where you get people from every part of the world all the best
58:35
people from different uh countries and and everything and uh and you find out
58:41
those danger zones real quick so they're kind of learning on the job right now I feel like a lot of those guys especially
58:47
with the grappling because with striking if you just go at someone hard and aggressive you can make up a lot for for
58:54
experience for sure sure but with grappling you go as someone hard and aggressive and you will throw yourself
59:01
into a submission it's a really wild way you have to almost completely change your way of thinking when it comes to
59:06
being aggressive when you get on the ground so that's something that they're going to have to keep working on because
59:12
you do see it a lot with those uh MMA Academy guys who are coming coming in from areas where they don't have like a
59:18
huge grappling scene like we have in in uh in America and in Europe even or not
59:24
Europe but um um in the UK and stuff oh yeah in Europe and like [ __ ] Kazan
59:31
and all that [ __ ] like they see a lot um and in those parts of the world you don't see as much so there's like a big
59:38
learning curve but man their tenacity is definitely going to get him
59:43
far absolutely um I mean you look at people like Juliana Pena who what she
59:49
lacked in technique even though she's closing those gaps but she lacked in technique she would made up for with
59:54
that and I mean a number of other Fighters she was just the person that popped into my head immediately I remember her on top I was just like wa
1:00:01
like it got her to the championship you know what I'm saying it's that kind of mentality it's that kind of ferocity and
1:00:07
um in intent behind your strikes and your positions um just having having that fighting Spirit can take you a long
1:00:14
way and it can take somebody who is more technically sound out of their element and out of their fight and make them
1:00:20
start doubting their themselves and then you can you know it's a Snowball Effect you can absolutely capitalize on those
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those positions where maybe on on paper the matchup seems a lot more lopsided than it is yeah for sure um for you know
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those guys at the MMA Academy I think they're in a great spot they've you know committed to bettering themselves and
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coming to you know a place where they get the grappling looks they get the Striking looks they get the great MMA
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work and conditioning that they wouldn't have otherwise had so I think it's great that they're moving and I think it's a
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really challenging place inside the UFC Octagon to learn the job like that it's
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very unforgiving but you find out very fast what you need to work on it's just
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if you can learn fast enough without you know compromising
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your position in the organization because there's you know people coming up left and right that are
1:01:15
you know willing to to step in and and take your spot so it's it's a really challenging position to be in yeah yeah
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I was I was in it you know they're like bye we'll see we'll see you in a little
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bit yeah we'll see you when you get more than two fights but um you know if anything it
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makes you such a better fighter so much quicker than if you were on a regional scene like a lot of those guys are
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coming from their Regional scene where they were just destroying everyone and then they get to the international scene
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and it's you're a small fish in a big pond again so you just got to work on filling those gaps and making sure
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you're dangerous everywhere and making sure you're just aware everywhere where you might not have uh thought you're in
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danger before because last time you were able to punch out of an armar you know like you didn't get that uh that
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correction in the fight so you're going to continue to make those mistakes until someone corrects you um and that's what
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happened um but yeah what a what a sweetheart the guy was in his little
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postf fight speech I actually felt really happy for him that he was able to get that armar after getting knocked out
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twice you know um finally in his first win in the UFC if uh it was it was kind
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of like a feel-good moment even though I've met jackob before and want the best for him but yeah he was a sweetheart
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trying to jump into bis Bing's arms and getting denied it was cute oh it felt so bad it was so cute though it made an
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even cuter moment to be honest ex it was very it was very cheeky like you too big
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he did get your ass down and he committed to it too he like jumped all the way up and then like almost hit the
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floor he really expected bisbing to grab him maybe they talked about it beforehand
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and bisbing forgot next time you just got to jump on bis's back don't give him the option
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there you go there you go or uh do the do the plank hold that theopus did that
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one time she just jumped up and held with her core tell you man strippers are
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strong they are um well let's uh talk about some of those other fights on our
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