In the first 2024 NHL Playoff Preview show, host Matthew Zator welcomes in Peter Baracchini and Hannah Garfield to set up the upcoming first round series of the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs between the Boston Bruins and the Toronto Maple Leafs.
**Editor's Note: this was recorded before games were played on April 17**
0:00 Intro
1:25 Bruins' Journey to the Playoffs
3:49 Maple Leafs' Journey to the Playoffs
5:32 Maple Leafs Players to Watch
7:17 Bruins Players to Watch
10:00 Keys to Victory For the Bruins
12:04 Keys to Victory For the Maple Leafs
14:00 Bruins Weakness You're Worried About
15:22 Maple Leafs Weakness You're Worried About
17:02 X-Factors
20:06 Series MVP
22:16 Bold Predictions
24:35 Predictions For The Series
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Hello, everybody. Welcome into another playoff preview show here at the Hockey Raiders YouTube
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channel and we're up to the Boston Bruins and the Toronto Maple Leafs at this series
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I know the Maple Leafs haven't haven't met the Boston Bruins in the playoffs in a long
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time. They keep repeating with the Lightning and they could have had the Panthers again
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So I think they're probably think fans are probably happy they're seeing another team here. But I'll let Peter comment that maybe he may not want to see the Bruins. But I've
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got Hannah Garfield and Peter Barrichini here previewing this series. Hannah, I haven't
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seen you in a long time since Chicks and Sticks. So happy to see you again
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No, it's been so long. I feel like I forget how to do this. So hopefully it goes well
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It'll all be great. And Peter, obviously, you're always here. So how's it going
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It's going good. It's been a while since the last time we met about what, a day or so ago
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Basically, yesterday. So yeah, we're going to we're going to preview this series. That should be a fun one
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We'll see how it all goes. Just before we get into the meat of it. But Bruins swept the season
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series for nothing. So I mean, two overtimes, though. I mean, so I mean, the Maple Leafs got
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a couple points out of it. But overall, it was all wins for the Bruins. So let's start
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I'll start with you, Hannah. This this season for the Bruins, I mean, they had a great season
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again when everyone thought they were going to fall off when they got Patrice Bergeron retired
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David Krejci retired. They're like, who's going to be their top line center now
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And they brought in a few guys and it seems to have worked out. What do you think about the
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Bruins this season overall and just against how they played against the Maple Leafs
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Yeah, it's definitely like you said, I feel like once again, last summer, everybody was talking
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about how this was going to be the season the Bruins fall off and this would be the year they
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maybe don't make the playoffs and break their streak. But here we are again
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they were one point out of being first in the Atlantic. They did very well even without
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you know, like you said, Bergeron is gone, Krejci is gone, you know, the old guard is finally
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turning over. And this new guards coming in and you know, you would think there would be some
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more adjustment periods, but this season showed that they really don't need that adjustment
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period. Like they're, they're rolling with it, they have the elite players, they have their
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future cornerstones and David Postronoff and Charlie McAvoy, the goaltending is awesome with
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Allmark and Swayman. Like, you know, they have the keys to continue to be a victorious team
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And despite having very little cap space last year, the, you know, kind of the bargain bin
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signings they made in Morgan Geeky, James Van Riemsteyck have really paid off way more than
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I think anyone would have expected. So it's been a good season for the Bruins. I think they are
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right where they should be. They played great against the Toronto Maple Leafs during the season
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But after, you know, last postseason, I think you can, you don't know what to expect the Bruins
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when playoffs starts. And it's always the playoffs are always going to be its own beast. So despite
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the fact that they might have swept the regular season series, I don't think it's going to be
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the same case in the postseason. Yeah, I mean, everyone didn't think that the Bruins were gonna get kicked in the first round
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of such a great season and the Panthers, you know, then made it all the way to Stanley Cup final
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So, yeah, I'm thinking, Peter, you'd think that hopefully that happens to the Maple Leafs then
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Fingers crossed, really. I mean, yeah, I mean, basically the same thing that Hannah said is just
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basically the opposite for the Maple Leafs. You know, you would you would hope that the regular
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season is just that it's a regular season. It's a different animal in the playoffs right now
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new season, everybody starts at zero. And right now, you know, the Maple Leafs
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they're basically crawling in just like the Bruins, they've had their ups and downs. And you hope that, you know, you can take advantage of the Bruins past playoff lows
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you know, having that lead up against Florida, losing it after that season
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if they're able to come out on top and be, you know, or show any sort of consistency
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because they really didn't show that in the in the regular season, maybe the first two games
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because it was very close in overtime, but the last two games where they lost a combined eight to really wasn't that pretty for the Maple Leafs. So hopefully, it's going to be a change of pace
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and maybe the tables can turn for them. And maybe be on the right side of history this time against
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the Bruins. Yeah, it's a that's the thing. I mean, like you said, the playoffs are such a
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different animal from the regular season, it doesn't really matter what your how many wins you
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had, what how you played against the team, you reset, I mean, everyone kind of starts, like I
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say, starts at zero. And you never know what can happen. But on paper, they've got both got their
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stars. They both got their their great players. Austin Matthews with his, hopefully by the time
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we're watching this 70 goals. He's got 69 as a recording still at last game of the season
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they're playing against the lightning. So we'll see if he'll get a 70. I Peter, who are you
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watching in this series? Is it the stars? Is it Matthews? Is it Marner, all the guys that have
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to kind of step up? Or are you looking more at the depth pieces like the guys they brought in
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Tyler Bertuzzi, Max Domi, all those types of guys? Yeah, a bit of both. I mean, you really want
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like every single year, it's the core for is are they going to actually succeed in there? Are they
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going to be on the same page in terms of production, because it seems like it's always one
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player, two players are playing well, and other two aren't as always, they could disconnect
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So hopefully the star players are going to be on point this time. And I'm mainly Mitch Marner
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because it's good. He's the one only one without a contract. Now he's had a lot of pressure on him
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Toronto boy has had inconsistencies and has had to deal with the pressure from the fans and media
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like so there's going to be a pressure on him definitely. But more so like you mentioned
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the names that they brought in specifically for this moment in Max Domi and Tyler Bertuzzi and
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even Ryan Reeves, who basically scored while we were recording as well. So you know
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Remo Snipes show is what we're going to see in the playoffs. Yeah, I do think that those
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those names are the ones to keep an eye on because they were difference makers last season Bertuzzi
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for the Bruins. He was tied in team scoring despite losing to the Florida Panthers and Max Domi
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had a pretty good run with the Dallas Stars. I believe he had 13 points in the 19 games. So
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really, they both shined during the playoffs. That was when it mattered most. And now
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hopefully the same thing can happen right now and they could be underrated and key
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playoff performers for them. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Tyler Bertuzzi, he was really good for
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the Bruins. And there was thinking that he would be resigned, but he didn't and went to the Maple
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Leafs. So now he's against his former team. Hannah, who are you watching in this series? I mean
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we all know David Pasternak is going to score goals. He did that again this past season
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even without his main center that he played with most of his, I mean, David Cratey played with
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Bergeron. I had to kind of set up with a new guy. Who are you watching this series? Is it those guys
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or are you looking more at their depth that they kind of brought in or even who was there before
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Yeah, well, you know, because of the Bruins top space woes, they really weren't able to bring in
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a big name at the trade deadline like they have in past seasons. Like last year, Demetri Orlov
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Tyler Bertuzzi were huge in the Florida Panthers season, and they weren't able to
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get that help this year. So it's really it's going to if they're going to get help
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it has to come from the depth guys. So I'm really going to be looking at that third line
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guys like Trent Frederick, who is having who just hit 40 points for the first time in a season
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and was really not very impactful last year in the playoffs. And so will he be able to show
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that he can be a real playoff player? Morten Gieke, James Van Rien, like that third line
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I think will have to be huge for the Bruins. And I think that they need that depth because they
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can't be seen in the past when they go into the playoffs, if they're just relying on their stars
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they're not going to win. So they need those guys to step up. And then speaking of those
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star players, I'm really I will also really be looking at Brad Marchand. He's not he
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had a good season, obviously, he's second on the team in points, he had 67 points this season
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but it's not necessarily the Brad Marchand that we're still we're used to seeing he didn't have
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as many points as we've become accustomed to. But he is, you never know what you're going to
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get with him. He did really well against the Maple Leafs this season. And he always does well in the
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playoffs and does something of interest to get, you know, there's something to just get under
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players skin. So I think he will also be a guy to watch in the playoffs, despite not having
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the regular season that we're necessarily used from. But still, I do have to say it was still
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a good regular season. For sure. And he's now the captain of the Bruins, too. So he's gonna he's
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gonna be put to I mean, we all know how well he does in the playoffs. He does lead. He's very
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big part of this team. And he said didn't have a really good regular season. But he's definitely
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going to step up in the playoffs. We know that. All right, I had I'll stay with you on this
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I keys to victory. What do you what are you watching for the Bruins that to make it through
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another series against the Maple Leafs who they've beaten almost every time I think it's still since
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the 50s that they won series against this team. So what do they have to do to make that happen again
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Yeah, like I was just saying with the third line, like really be they really need to get the
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depth guys the you know, the bottom six players involved in the offense. They can't just rely on
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their top stars to be able to get them through a playoff series. I think they had eight different
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goal scorers in their series against Toronto this year. Last year in the playoffs, they only had
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nine guys, you know, register goals. So they really need to either be you know, be matching
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that or exceeding that. So getting you know, more of the guys involved. I really think it will also
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come down to goaltending. It has been such as you know, Linus Linus Hallmark, Jeremy, Jeremy
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Swain and are incredible goaltenders. They've done they've done really well all season even when
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they've hit the rough patches, they've come back. And I think we saw that last season when they
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relied on the goaltending a lot. And then when it took a dip in the playoffs, you know, we saw
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what happened. So I think goaltending will definitely be something to keep an eye on if
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they're able to, you know, maintain what they did in the regular season, or if there's going to be
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you know, if they're going to be playing a guy injured again, like they were last season, who maybe they shouldn't be. So that would be goaltending would be something to definitely
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keep an eye on. I mean, they got a great two headed monster there. I mean
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Swainman, it looks like Hallmark may not be there next season, and Swainman is going to take over
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the starting job. But they still got the two guys and they switched between the two in Florida last
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season too. It didn't work out. But we'll see what happens this time around. Right, Peter, speaking of
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goaltending, I mean, that's been a topic of something throughout the season for the Maple
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Leafs. And I don't even know when the last time that wasn't a question. But what do you think
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keys to victory for the Maple Leafs in this series to break that seems like a curse at this point
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they can't seem to beat the Bruins in the playoffs? Yeah, it kind of seems like
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Ilya Samsonov, he was going to be the presumed starters probably going to have to outwork his
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way again and come out on top and defeat or try to balance out the two headed beasts and
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Swainman and Hallmark because they're absolutely phenomenal. I mean, he took down Andre Vasilisky
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last year, which was a great, great starting point. Now can you try and replicate that again
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you know, he was waived, had that rough patch came back and was absolutely dominant in the second
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half, rough patches down the stretch, hopefully he could regain that, you know, that mentality
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and mental toughness that can get him over this hump again, that, you know, ultimately
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um, was made him successful last season, I think that's going to be number one. Number two, I think
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it's just going to be the defense itself, you know, especially when the Bruins are on the attack
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we know how quick they are, if they can provide strong man to man coverage one on one and try to
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keep Boston to the outside, because we know how dangerous they are when they're in the middle
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in front of the net, they try to look for passes so many times and other players as well. If they're
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able to get into position and keep them to the outside, and mitigate all the chances coming from
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the blue line as well. I think that's going to be a big win until that happens. We'll see because
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defense has been a big weakness for this team this season, and they're able to do it in the
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playoffs, then that's just a big win right there. Defense and goaltending
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All right, Hannah, something that you're worried about for the Bruins, I mean, what could be their
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Achilles heel in this series that potentially have them out in the first round again
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I think going off of what Peter was just saying, I think defense will be an issue for the Bruins
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It's they've had, you know, their defensive issues this season, particularly defending leads
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We all saw that big, you know, they, their big streak in February, where it's felt like every
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other game, they were leading into the third period, losing the lead and then losing in
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overtime and you know, against a team like Toronto, which has such offensive firepower
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you need to keep the you need to keep that your defensive abilities up the whole 60 minutes
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because if you start, if you start slacking, they're going to take it, you know, awesome
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Matthews, Mitch Marner, that will be later, they're going to take advantage of that. And
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they can get goals on the you know, get gores on the school sheet score sheet very quickly
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So the Bruins are really that is my biggest concern with the team is, you know, will they
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be able to defend leads in the series? So they've had that issue all season
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Yeah, well, the Maple Leafs definitely have the firepower to do that. And I mean, the Bruins do
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too. I mean, I Peter, you know, Peter, they could have the same problem, right? I is that
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the weakness you're worried about? Is the goaltending and defense or main one that they
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could that could cost in the series? Yeah, obviously, big issue throughout the season
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If you want to just put a little footnote to go back to that point, because I'm just gonna I'll
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talk about something else that really has been an issue for the Maple Leafs as well. And that's just special teams, power play and penalty kill. On the surface, it looks like, you know
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they're top seven in the league in power play. But you know, for a certain point
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like in the second half, they've been, you know, one of the worst teams on the power play and on
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the penalty kill as well. They're both ranked in the bottom. So they're able to get the power play
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going, which is kind of looked like they're getting to groove back with that, you know
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getting the right plays, winning battles, being strong on the cycle and getting their opportunities
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I think that's going to go well for them. But if they continue to have those bad entries, those bad
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plays, turnovers, especially on shorthanded chances, Boston can hurt you just as easily in
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that regard. And just like they can hurt you on the power play and the Maple Leafs need to tighten
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up on the PK, which has looked better again. But so got to be aware of your positioning your
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surroundings because that is the main issue throughout the whole entire season. So special teams is definitely going to be that one key weakness going again that they really need to work on
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Yeah, there's, you know, the Bruins probably shouldn't be taking penalties against
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and the same I mean, the same thing for the Bruins, too. I mean, they probably shouldn't be taking penalties against the Maple Leafs. They can score on the power play too. So yeah
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it could come down to special teams of this series, right? Really good. Leading into x factors that
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could be one panel. What's the next factor in this series? It could be a player, it could be
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a situation like special teams that what do you got? So I went with a player and I he's failed
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me all season. Every time I say something about him, he does the opposite. But I'm gonna go
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Jake the brass can be a he could be a real x factor in the series. You know, it has not been
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the season I think anyone would have hoped for with him. But he has played well against Toronto
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this season. He had two goals and six points in their four game series. And he's a good playoff
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guy. He has 22 career playoff goals. Last season, he had four goals against the Pampers in their
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series. He's the guy that can turn it on in the playoffs and can be an efficient player. And at
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some point, he is in a contract year like that fire needs to get lit under him a little bit that
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he's playing for his next contract. And this playoff series could be his last opportunity to
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make his case for either getting an extension of the Bruins or you know, getting a good deal
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elsewhere. So I think he could be a real x factor this series. Yeah, he's a guy that definitely
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comes to play in the playoffs and all the but the trade rumors that were his trade request and all
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that stuff. I kind of put that to bed a bit this season and look good at times, right? He said so
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Yeah, he could be someone to kind of watch in the playoffs here. Peter, what about you? What's an x
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factor in this series for the Maple Leafs? I'm gonna go with a player as well. And I know we
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talked about him off like at the beginning, and that's Mitch Marner because of the pressure that's
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on him and how he has gone quite a certain point during the playoffs. I mean, he showed up during
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their series against the Tampa Bay Lightning but you know, didn't quite get a whole lot of
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production done in their series against Florida. I mean, he had three points but really didn't like
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his play seem to be very timid and shy at times with the physicality that can't happen again
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against the Bruins. And I got a piece coming out and I looked at like, you know, the Maple Leafs
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core five production against the Bruins and Mitch Marner has the most points 13 and 14 games just
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under a point per game. So that's more than Austin Matthews. That's more than William
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Nylander against the Bruins. I think this year with Matthews is going to be a little bit different
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because of the goals, shots and everything. But Mitch Marner really likes to play Boston in the
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playoffs. And if he's able to be that, you know, strong playmaking player, maybe chip him with a
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goal every now and then he can really be a big difference maker and why it could push the Maple
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Leafs further in the series and possibly win it as well. Yeah, Mitch Marner, I like to say contract
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that's still something that's going to be that's on his mind and obviously on everyone else's mind
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too. I he's I mean, he's part of that core that needs to step up in the playoffs again
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even though they they played pretty well last year, it's just didn't push them further than
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the second round. All right, a series MVP. How had I could be for the Bruins, it could be for
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the Maple Leafs, who's going to be the biggest star in this series. So I'm going with someone
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who I wanted to go with someone who isn't like, obviously David Pasternak is probably going to
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be impactful, Brad Ashen, Charlie McAvoy, but I think I think Pavel Zaka could really come up big
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for the Bruins. You know, he's done it all season. He's really stepped up into this, you know, top
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line center role. He's played well against the Leafs this season. He had three goals in their
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four games. Last season in the playoffs, he had six assists. Like he's a guy that has since coming
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to the Bruins has really stepped up in the big stages. And when they needed him, he's been the
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next guy up. So I think he could really be an impact, you know, an impactful player, the series
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that nobody was, people aren't necessarily going to be expecting. Maybe call this the biggest
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difference maker. It doesn't have to be a star, it could be someone just makes a big difference. So
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Peter, what's that? Who's that for you? I for this series? Ah, I'm I'm going to say Max Domi as one, mainly because of that, you know, that tenacity that
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grits that, you know, the snot that Brad Treliving brought in the season, I really liked him on
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Matthews wing. So when everyone is healthy, that Bertuzzi Matthews and Domi line really started to
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click and produce. So I really liked his jump. I think he provides more of a great more speed
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and more tenacity than Marner still decent playmaker as well. I think he has that little
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bit of an edge that can pull them over the top and make him a unsung hero for the Maple Leafs
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in creating plays for them. And the other one is, is if Ilya Samsonov kind of repeats what he did
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last season, he's going to be the big MVP for the Maple Leafs because he stood on his head last
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season, if he's going to do the same again, this season can come at a better moment, especially
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with the season that he's had. Yeah, if he's if he's a big difference maker, I think everyone's
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going to be happy and leaves nation. That's for sure. All right. I love this one is a bold
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prediction for this series that it doesn't have to be for the team you cover. It could be just
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an overall bold prediction that you got. So Peter, I'll start with you. Oh, bold prediction
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I was thinking about this the whole entire day. And I've had trouble with this because I'm trying
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to think, you know, these these teams are very evenly matched. So it really isn't really bold
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whether if Boston's going to win, whether Toronto is going to win who comes out on top. If I'm going to have a bold prediction, I'm probably going to say that, you know what
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I probably say that maybe Ryan Reeves plays a big pivotal role in this series as well. I'm
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not sure how much offense he's going to produce. But if he scores a big time goal, I think that's
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going to be very, very huge for the scene because of the energy that he brings. And you see the reaction when he fights on the ice, the bench and the team is already hyped up. Imagine if he scores
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like a game winning goal, or multiple game winning goals or multiple goals in the series. I think the
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team is really going to feed off that energy and that passion that he has. And I think that could
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be a big difference maker going forward. Well, I know Ryan Reeves back in the Canucks
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Golden Knights series, he got under the skin of the Canucks. And yeah, I'd so I
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I can attest he can be a difference maker in the playoffs. Hannah, what about you a bold prediction for this series
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I guess a bold prediction for the series. I don't know how bold this is. Again, I also
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struggle to come up with one. I again, I don't know how bold it is. I think Trent Frederick
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gets a Gordie Howe hat trick in one of these games. I think especially if Ryan Reeves is
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you know, being Ryan Reeves, I feel like Trent Frederick will be the guy on the Bruins that
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you know, answers the bell there. And I think in overall, and in the NHL, if I was to make like a
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postseason bold prediction, I don't think the Rangers make it to the Eastern Conference Final
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I think President Trophy curse continues in the first or second round
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Yeah, I'm thinking of trying I'm maybe doing an episode of just a full playoff type question
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quickfire or whatever. But yeah. All right. Well, let's go to predictions for this series
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of who's going to win it. So Peter, who's going to win this series? And how many games
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So the last three times that Toronto played Boston, I always picked Toronto trial always
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ended up losing in seven games. And I always picked Toronto in seven. So I am going to go
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the exact opposite. And because I do that Toronto is probably going to win I'm going to pick I'm
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going to pick Boston and six mainly because of the Maple Leafs struggles. I'm still very wary
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about that. Defense. It's been a big issue special teams if they could get you know
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if they could get on point with that, then it's going to be a very interesting series. But there's
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a lot of questions that I still have with this team. I know I'm a Maple Leafs writer. I know I'm
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you know, I covered the team there, but it's just very hard, especially with the Boston Bruins
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how they're in their head at this point. If they can break that curse or break that, you know
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streak of Boston getting the best of them. Fantastic, but I we need to see it. And for that
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I'm still just going to pick Boston at six. All right, Hannah, what about you? Are you
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picking Bruins or I am going to pick the ruins, but I'm picking them in seven
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Um, I think that I just I think last season is definitely stung losing in the first round to
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the Pampers after the season they had. I think the fact that they're coming in, this would be if they
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lose in the first round, that would be three years in a row that they've lost in the first round
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And I just don't think I think the Bruins will that will be some sort of extra fire and motivation
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under you know, under their skates to win. But again, because they've had their ups and downs
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this season and Toronto is still Toronto. They're still a really talented team with
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some great goal scorers and go tend, you know, and can have some good goal tending like they did last
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season. I think it will go to seven. But I will say that I if Toronto does win, they're my pick
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to win it all this season because I feel like if they ever if they if they if they beat the Bruins
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in a playoff series, finally, they would have to go on to win the whole thing at that point
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That would be extra motivation to go on a deep run. Yeah, you know what, I have this weird feeling
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that it's the same thing as the Canucks back in 2011. They couldn't beat the Blackhawks in the
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playoffs. And then they won that in the first round. And they went to the final didn't win the
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cup, but they went further than always against the Bruins. Yeah, I choose not to remember that
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series. But after game two, in two is fine, because Burrows scored made it up to nothing
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and the rest is crap. So yeah, it's no the Bruins have had such a big streak the last time they met
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in the playoffs in 2019. So this is a new series. I mean, yes, it's it is. I mean, 2024 is quite a
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while ago. I mean, and we all remember Peter, I don't want maybe not remind you of it. But they
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got it. We got to talk about it. Game seven and blowing it there. Yeah, it's it we'll see how that
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kind of goes. Lots of different faces on this team from that one. So yeah, we'll see what happens
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But thanks, Hannah. Thanks, Peter, for coming on the show and talking this series. See how it all
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plays out should be a fun one. And if it goes to seven, like you both kind of six and seven
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right, it should be a longer series. And we'll see how it all goes. But until next time, we'll
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