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YoNasDa LoneWolf Talks Native American Heritage and Artists on Sway In the Morning | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Nov 21, 2023
Yonasda Lonewolf is a powerhouse of a woman. She is an activist, entrepreneur, and motivational speaker who has been a voice for those who can’t speak up for themselves. In her most recent appearance on Sway In the Morning, she was promoting not only Native American Heritage Month but also artists who deserve recognition for their talents.
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give her a round of applause
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entrepreneur media personality she
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worked with one of my mentors and Big
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Brothers Chuck D on his rap station wow
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shout out to Chuck D she she she
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spearheaded be more youth Rising she's a
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author she's been featured in magazines
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and all sorts of media platforms and she
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only speaks the truth that not me
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understand give her a round of applause
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please welcome the one and only yonah
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wolf is ha thank you wow beautiful yes
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yes man I I made it made it made it I
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made it here you are here man two oh I'm
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about to come on let's give a come on
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let Spirit been flowing all morning it's
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okay we just embrace it I remember I you
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all interviewed me two years ago October
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yes and I was telling you all I got
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diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and I
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was like really hoping and it was a
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Callin and I was really hoping to be
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here so I'm excuse me if I get emotional
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but I am so happy to see both of you all
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to be here in the studio and to bring
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some of my brothers with me Antoine
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Edwards and Keith IMC on this Native
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American heritage month I love it and
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the time is the time like we can't
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control that it this is the appointed
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time and the appointed day
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yes this is It's So gu is the time so we
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we we all feel it yeah I wanted to know
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if we could switch it up real quick sure
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okay well because it is Native American
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heritage month I wanted us to open up
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with a with a native um Prayer song so
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happy you're doing this dude so I don't
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know if you no this but this is every
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Thursday here at SW in the morning we do
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something called Good News Thursday so
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we open up the
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show in that spirit in that energy so
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wow prayer all of it so it's beautiful
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sure to get a closeup on this Drew let's
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move those cups before you start and if
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you don't mind if you could lift the
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drum a little higher so the the
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microphone won't hide it from the uh and
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move the microphone to your uh yeah and
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move the microphone down a little
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bit okay there you
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[Music]
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go
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[Music]
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[Music]
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no
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[Music]
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we
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[Music]
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hey
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hey hey
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hey no
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[Music]
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woman
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heyy
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uh my name is Anton go by Anton X I'm
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umah
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lotu but the song I'mma sing is I'm G do
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one one push-up and it's uh it says tuna
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pity me and give me strength to guide my
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people to the Red Road and we'll get
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into what the Red Road is too but
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[Music]
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absolutely
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[Music]
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[Music]
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oh
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[Music]
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I man yo that was I can't wait to
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understand for you guys to give context
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to which you just did yeah and I'm
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really happy that you called that UD
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because that was something that was part
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of what I wanted to ask you guys about
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anyway was ceremonies and rituals and
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the meaning behind them and so can y'all
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break that down for us yeah the first
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song Oh my name is Kei IC I'm a skiy
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chawi paie and a noogy be Clan of the
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Simo those are my two tribes PA and Simo
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um that first song it says Noah
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mini and in that song came about as the
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pawy water is life Standing Rock song
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during the Standing Rock uh uh movement
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going on in 2016 as a paw um our tribes
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my my brother right here is is Lota I'm
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paw um we were ancient enemies and so
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that song represents uh two tribes
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coming together in the future which was
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that time in 2016 and coming together uh
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for that water the Sacred Water uh
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putting our differences aside our
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battles our painful history you know of
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massacres upon each other you know
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tribal Warfare and saying we'll stand
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together as as one for this water for
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the sacred Mother Earth and uh and
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hopefully move uh into the future in a
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good spiritual way you know for the for
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the next you know 100 years from now so
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that song is talking about the water
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giving thanks to the war acknowledging
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that water and saying thank you from my
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chicku my heart I give thanks for all
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this life that is be before us the
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sacred mother water that's what that
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means that's powerful and then your song
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um first all I say it's an honor to be
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here he be
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sing us thank you welcome welcome
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welcome to the show it's an honor man um
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it's an honor to have you brother I'll
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be watching y'all and it's it's it's
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good to be up here but uh yeah like you
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said I'm Omaha U I'm lot I'm oala and
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sich changu and uh growing up I I I was
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raised uh traditionally to learn our our
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songs and there's different roles that
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you take and being a okwi chasha that's
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a singer um that's it's a it's a a big
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role in our community you know all of
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our ceremonies and all of our ways are
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based around songs
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if there any situation you could think
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of we have a song for it so my dad said
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you know if you you know as a singer if
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you don't have the right words maybe you
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have the right song or you always have
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the right song so that song I made um my
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uncle gave me those words before he
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passed uh to make a song and I sat on
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him for a long time and one day one day
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I was just thinking about him and you
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know thinking about this path that I'm
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on and I made that song and what what I
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said is a translation it's uh tuna which
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is Creator God uh have pity on me and
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give me the strength to guide my people
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to the Red Road and the Red Road is that
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that road that you walk with uh if you
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walk in a good way you know with
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compassion you know humility and uh also
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drug and alcohol free you know cuz that
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that wasn't a part of our our ways you
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know that that alcohol was brought over
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to weaken us you know and blur our
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vision from who we really are being
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connected to the land to the stars and
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to our people you know what I mean so uh
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to be on the Red Road is an important
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thing for me and my family and that's
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why I made that song so me and my family
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sing that a lot thank you man give that
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man a round of applause Antoine
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X
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powerful
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um and I tell you something I I just saw
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the movie Killers of the flower Moon um
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that speaks about the oage tribe right
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of oage county in Oklahoma and how they
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were pillaged how they were invaded uh
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how they was how they were deceived and
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and stolen from they own the mineral
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rights to the land that they were on and
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because of that people had to come to
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them to license to to the dig for oil
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and all these different things and the
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government assigned Guardians to these
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people over their own riches and wealth
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and part of what they did which was
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revealed in the movie when I went back
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and researched even deeper you know so
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Martin I'm curious to what you think but
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Martin scors say I I thought he did a
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great job you know of bringing a lot of
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things to our attention but one of the
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things that they did they infested
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people they gave women diabetes yes
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right they did uh they took life like
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life had no meaning these people were
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inhumane uh and even still even still
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they could not stop the growth of these
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folks right who receive settlement money
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from the government the government is
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settling for 800 million
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imagine how much they made right right
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right uh have you seen the movie I love
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the movie okay and I'm probably going to
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get a lot of um feedback on this because
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um right now we so we have we you know
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we have black social media we also have
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native social media okay so I'm in in
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between both because I'm ogalala and
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black so I'm always in between both of
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these social media um you know um
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conversations but on Native social media
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the well first off o Sage was involved D
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the oage um as consultants as actors on
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the land like the oage tribe was very
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much involved in that M the making of
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the movie um and so for me and I know
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Kei could probably speak on it because
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he's from Oklahoma but being ogalala
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Lakota for myself we don't we barely
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learned our own history yeah because of
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boarding schools and all of that and it
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was stripped from us and then but
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learning about other tribes you know you
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had to go out and research it and so I
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never knew about the O Sage really and
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so when I saw the movie that was the
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first time I'm learning about this and I
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was just like oh so I did the same thing
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research I called people that were old
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sage I made a post and said anyone old
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sage reach out to me because I want to
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know your feedback and um a lot of Old
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Sage people love it um there was I think
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that the number one thing is that we
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have so many Native American directors
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producers that could have told this
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story and got and should got the budget
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that Martin got yeah you know and and um
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and they focus more on Leonardo
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DiCaprio's character and in Robert Dao's
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character instead of Lily Gladstone's
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character I think that they should have
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talked more from her perspective um for
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us to be able to get a Native American
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woman perspective of more of more
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speaking from her you know um I never
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read the book either so you know but
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just just from of that some of that
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feedback I think on Native social media
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lot of people are saying I wish it was
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more from Lily Gladstone or from the
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character that she played um I think
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Lily Gladstone deserves an Oscar yeah
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she she did an amazing job there's
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something about um like especially of
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Elder Native American woman they have
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these like I remember my un my
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grandmothers that would be like these
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onliners and those on liners would just
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they that one liner would just cut you
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or have you think and one of the things
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he said oh I like your skin
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and then he said U she said yeah it's my
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skin you know it's just those on liners
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you know that um that and I think that
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she did an amazing job you know showing
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that um that quiet storm of um and that
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resilience of inding um of indigenous
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woman you know and um but I also was it
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for me being black and Native American
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it was similar to how when I first watch
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roots or The Color Purple yeah and in
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regards to that that deep pain of like
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damn man again this happened and then
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the fact that it was happening exactly
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the same time of Black Wall Street and
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then I I met with a lot of fredman
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creeks and fre like especially the
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Freeman Creeks they just got their
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recognition um their tribal recognition
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but the Freedman Creeks the Freedman
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Cherokees you know they said that they
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actually too went through the same exact
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thing because they was they was a lotted
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land as well and so throughout Oklahoma
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it was like I guess this is a story and
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I know Keith could probably jump in but
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there's that's a story and that's a
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history that needs to be told and so
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when we talking about reparations yes we
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need to talk about reparations not just
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for uh for black Americans but also for
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Native Americans and and you know I know
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a lot of people think Native Americans
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get reparations we never did those are
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lawsuits those are different so people
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had to sue to get something back yes
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just
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Airmen and Old Sage had to sue to get a
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settlement right mhm exactly so they had
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a s so we didn't get reparations we
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still are due and um in in the um in the
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Declaration of Independence it still
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says that we are merciless Indian
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Savages as Native Americans today to
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this day till this day that we are
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considered not even a full human being
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and that we are merciless Indian Savages
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so when I'm like when I'm you know being
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black my mother was full blood native
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dad is Black from Brooklyn you know and
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I always say that I feel like I'm the
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oppressed under the oppressed yeah
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because as we're fighting for black
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lives matter I'm like God can we have
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any recognition for the native lives and
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the thousands of missing and murdered
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indigenous women and you know so these
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these stories matter so I'm happy that
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Martin did it yeah you know he it it and
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um I heard you all on Monday you all
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like spent like 30 minutes on this
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conversation on the movie which is so
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important because representation matters
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you know and so um so yeah I thought I
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thought it was good but we need more
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story so shout out to Sterling Haro with
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reservation dogs to dark winds that's on
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XM I mean I'm sorry that's on um FX FX
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you know and all these and um War Pony
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my cousin did that movie you know
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there's a lot of great stories that need
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to be uplifted you want to you want to
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chime in on that being from Oklahoma
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yeah um I'm from Oklahoma glad to be
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here yeah JB that's my brother I
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remember J you remember JB was here J so
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we we grew up together doing hip-hop um
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a small world man yeah so we grew up in
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the same crew and and one thing that
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we've we've always uh wanted to to to
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represent is that that red and black
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Unity you know uh the importance of just
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learning each other being friends you
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know Rel relatives you know learning who
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you are as a person um with Oklahoma and
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a lot of the the historical trauma
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that's there man there's been so many
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wars and battles all the tribes that
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went to Oklahoma didn't want to be in
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Oklahoma you know that was the land that
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that none of the the white men wanted
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and they said well send them there they
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might last 25 years they might last 50
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years but uh culturally in a 100 years
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they're going to be gone and and with
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this system is how they think is they
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think a 100 years in advance you know
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where are you going to be 100 years so
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in a 100 Years A lot of those treaties
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were put into a 100y year treaty uh and
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so you know with that oil one of the
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things about that story is Oklahoma was
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the oil boom in the 1916s to like 1922
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that was the the boom of the world
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that's where all the oil was you know
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where it started the whole
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infrastructure of that concept of oil
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power started there so you look at that
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blueprint you know kill the kill the
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kill the natives you know take their
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infrastructure and get that power and
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and then control the world and so you
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know what happened to the Simo the there
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was an oil boom in Simo down in in weoka
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um and and there and then the reign of
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terror in 8's country so it's just a
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it's a bitter history in Oklahoma
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Oklahoma's wealth was was uh established
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off that death off that those atrocities
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stolen wealth and so you know we don't
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forget that you know the OS don't forget
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it the simos don't forget it and here we
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are a lot of us you know are still in
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impoverished communities in Oklahoma you
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know but you know we one thing that we
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believe is you know even though we made
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it through the historical trauma you
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know we have historical spirit so they
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couldn't break the spirit so we're still
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here sh there you go man yeah man we all
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here we all here baby come on hey anine
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what what are some of the
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um you know some of the just backward
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stereotypes or perceptions that people
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have you feel of
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native I think uh I mean just to add one
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more thing too I think it's important
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that we start sharing our stories
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through film through music um we've been
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uh there's a lack of representation for
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for a long time up until now and still
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is a lack of representation we're just
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clawing our way up to the top right now
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and the fact that these stories are
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being told is good I see a lot of people
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uh I saw comments I didn't see the movie
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but I saw comments saying uh you know
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why is it always have to be this why
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does it have to be trauma why does it
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have to be sad and blah blah blah but
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it's all right you're opening the door
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now we're kicking this door down so what
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comes with us is the beauty that people
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love yep people love the songs the
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aesthetic it's it's but it's our it's
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our it's our people and what comes with
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that is the is the trauma it is the
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stories it's the it's the other side of
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what they've been taught you know what I
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mean so my parents they went to see it
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last week and they said there was uh
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some older white people that were
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walking out because it made made them
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uncomfortable made them look bad
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uncomfortable made them look bad but it
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was like no it didn't make you look bad
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it just told you the truth just showed
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you what actually happened and that's
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not what's taught in school I went to
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school in Omaha you know in the city I
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was raised traditionally so when I'm in
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there to the stereotypes you know
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growing up I got kicked out of every
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single school that I ever went to and
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that was because I came on the bus from
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the shelter I had holes in my shoes I
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had long hair teacher would say uh miss
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you know oh he's a boy yeah and I'd have
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to fight that my whole life you know and
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and and my parents so with our long hair
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it's strength in our hair and that's
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indigenous people around the world is
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strengthen our hair we carry strength in
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it I see you with the long hair over
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there you know what I mean that's L
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light of course brother of course it's
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our strength so for me my mom was like
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you know you could cut it you know or
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you could keep it I I'mma keep it and
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I'll just keep getting kicked out but
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that was the thing as all you know as
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native people were Fighters naturally
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because we just have to fight every day
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we have to fight to be seen fight to be
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heard fight to explain who we are why do
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you do this why do you talk like this
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why do your people sing like that you
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know what I mean why do you act a
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certain way and it's like we have two
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worlds that we walk in there's the ma
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there's the mainstream Society this
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world out here that's and then there's
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the other world where we're learning
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these ways and we have a sense of uh and
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raised with compassion humility and you
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know to care about the next person not
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step on the next person to get up you
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know what I mean absolutely and it's
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it's it's a it's a balance of course you
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know but the stereotypes that you know
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alcoholic you know I was called
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alcoholic you know you I know you drink
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I know you drink they don't believe me I
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never drank my whole life oh I know this
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you put it in your peace pipe and you
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smoke but really it's it's ceremonial
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when we actually do smoke Chupa and it's
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it's not weed in there you know and it's
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certain ways that we do things when I'm
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on my Omaha side you know and they some
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of my family go to NAC and they have uh
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corn hus and roll that up with tobacco
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and but you know the the stereotypes you
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know people just look at us a certain
20:51
way and and think that we're um behind
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yeah in fact you're so far ahead head
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they can't even see it you done La them
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two or three times you know and with
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that you know like there I I've had
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people in my life where they were like
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they were on this type of they're in the
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streets running I was there too but I
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was in a different way you know I was I
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was just I was just there yeah you know
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what I mean and now I see them coming
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around oh yeah you know we need to
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smudge and we need to we need to connect
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and we need to you need to learn Tom
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it's like what do you mean my whole life
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you know my people since back then we've
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been talking about connecting and and
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when the world was moving on we were
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sitting there getting shot by the police
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the National Guard facing off with them
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we saw them lighting up the the the
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media people so that they could get out
21:41
and go to the hospital and then they
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went and did dirty stuff to us and that
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was happening an hour from a city where
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people didn't even know what was going
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on in Standing Rock standing standing
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that's that's and we was all there a lot
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of my brothers were there I met my
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lifetime homies there and it's like we
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stand for the land and we stand for
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things that a lot of times people didn't
21:57
even know that that's that's something
21:58
to stand for they're like oh we need to
22:00
stand for this and we do need to stand
22:02
for that there's also these things over
22:04
here and that's what we bring to the
22:05
table is our struggles that is
22:07
everybody's struggles yeah that's the
22:09
land that's that's this Earth You Know
22:12
Mother Earth and and you know the same I
22:15
mean we fight for everyone that's
22:16
oppressed you know we talking about
22:18
Native American Heritage Month um I love
22:21
these stories I love your jewelry I know
22:25
it has some significance can y'all break
22:26
that down for us
22:29
oh yeah I got I got my medicine pouch
22:30
here so you know just fill this with
22:32
medicine you know protection you know
22:34
all the things like that a couple little
22:36
necklaces and I got my little shirt
22:38
right here Braves Against the Machine
22:39
okay and this right here represents this
22:41
this this cross right here of uh the
22:43
tomahawk and the peace pipe represent My
22:45
Tribe My pawy Tribe and what that says
22:47
is you know if you come in peace you
22:49
know we can smoke together you know we
22:51
become relatives but if you come in war
22:52
we'll accommodate you yeah we
22:55
accommodate you I like that all right I
22:57
got uh I got this T I say I got a this
23:02
is a elk tooth necklace um it's my
23:04
little sister's I asked her to wear it
23:06
um but a a a bro of mine his name is
23:09
keto he made it and uh a lot of our
23:11
friends a lot of our family they're
23:13
they're they make jewelry they they bead
23:15
a lot you know the earring right here
23:17
it's a arrow that's beaded uhhuh um tell
23:21
them about your oh the part Fletch my
23:23
sister she made this it's a hide Raw
23:26
Hide and you know what kind of was that
23:29
what kind of hey cow I know something
23:32
little you got elk te something a little
23:33
harder okay a little harder what's your
23:36
sister's name you keep shout shout her
23:38
out uh this W which means dancing woman
23:42
and that's my little sister she made
23:43
this and my sister Antonia she's uh one
23:48
of the most well-known beaters in the
23:50
country yeah she's amazing and she she
23:52
makes custom beaded earrings we I have
23:53
to get you a pair yes I would be honored
23:55
yes amaz ton I just I just got you a G
23:59
come
24:00
on I got you it's native bling it's it
24:03
it it um it's very expensive like we're
24:06
we're wearing a lot of money on us and
24:10
and but it's it's uh it's handmade and
24:13
it's com from the Earth Earth yeah man
24:15
that's the thing beautiful yeah my
24:18
sister's uh my mom we I mean everyone
24:19
does they they make everything so wow I
24:21
was trying to get my mocks my moccasin
24:23
beat by the time I came here what you
24:25
got on what do me see what you got on I
24:27
just got the forces okay well I wear
24:28
size 11 if you do the you can fit them
24:31
up love be honored y NAA I wanted to see
24:35
be uh because we the parallels you know
24:38
when you talk about black um and
24:40
Indigenous folks of this region you know
24:43
I'm forced to think of um that
24:45
relationship not which we were taught in
24:47
school you know through that
24:49
indoctrination but the real truth about
24:52
pre Christopher Columbus you know
24:55
Christopher Columbus says in his own
24:57
diary as he looked upon the people he
25:01
came across when he landed in this
25:02
region how dark they were M you know and
25:05
compared them to people he may have seen
25:07
in other parts of the world yeah the
25:10
African connection to this land can you
25:12
speak to that so I
25:15
um you know I I was in Cuba and when I
25:19
was I went to Cuba and I met one thing I
25:22
love about um learning about history and
25:24
tribes is traveling and meeting and
25:27
connecting with the people um I do know
25:30
know that everyone has their creation
25:33
stories okay of how everyone came and
25:36
connected together in our native way we
25:38
say matasi which means we're all related
25:41
or All My Relations or we all have some
25:44
type of similarity and connection um one
25:47
thing that I do know is that the Moors
25:49
did come over you know they did the
25:52
Moors did come over they did um get on
25:55
boats and come here to throughout Turtle
25:58
Island there was a lot of that
25:59
connection um and then when we have
26:01
conversations sometimes about the Moors
26:03
some of the Moors was also with
26:05
Christopher Columbus yeah you know so
26:07
that is also like man you came here with
26:09
the devil yeah you know probably didn't
26:11
know he was the
26:12
devil so I think yeah so there's so many
26:16
of these type you know these stories and
26:18
I I think that um one thing that I love
26:21
is to see our connections with our foods
26:24
and our
26:25
songs um our you know our our our um our
26:32
wear our
26:34
regalia um our language you know even in
26:37
our features as well you know I always
26:41
you know when I went to the seminal I
26:43
was like man they look like me and then
26:45
they told me and I met with the Simo
26:47
grandmother and she was like oh she said
26:49
man we have so many families that is in
26:52
um uh Bahamas she's like the simal will
26:56
always just travel to the Bahamas and
26:59
Cuba and Jamaica like way before time
27:02
was time you know they would constantly
27:04
just connect and so um I know that
27:07
before the continental shift everything
27:09
was a lot much more closer yeah and
27:11
connecting um but you know I think that
27:14
right now we're in a time where people
27:16
are putting pictures of me and I'm black
27:19
and Native next to a Sitting Bull or
27:23
next to Crazy Horse and they'll say look
27:25
at she's the real Indian and he's not
27:29
you know I think that type of um
27:31
narrative is very dangerous yeah
27:33
divisive yeah it's very divisive and
27:35
it's eraser and I don't and I'm not for
27:38
cuz we're we're already trying to show
27:41
everyone we're not a moniker you know
27:43
we're not a monument we're not a mascot
27:46
we're not a holiday we are still here
27:49
and then saying that oh no the darker
27:51
skinned natives are the real ones and
27:54
the lightskinned ones are $5 Indians I
27:56
think that's so divisive and I block
27:59
everyone that puts me in that narrative
28:01
um because I'm like my mother so you're
28:03
calling my mother a $5 Indian now there
28:05
was you know there is history and
28:07
stories and we learned that with the old
28:09
sage movie of $ five Indians but every
28:12
light-skinned native is not a $5 Indian
28:14
you know what is a $5 so basically um
28:17
because and this is from the Indian um
28:20
Native American relocation act um was
28:23
but prior to that settlers were coming
28:26
in and saying okay you you all are
28:29
giving all these Native American you
28:30
know land and reservation so they'll pay
28:34
$5 to be enrolled in the tribe white
28:37
people white folks oh my gosh and so
28:40
that way they'll have access to the
28:43
tribes riches yes exactly so if it
28:45
wasn't and then they transfer that those
28:47
riches into their families away from the
28:50
tribe exactly so if it wasn't being you
28:53
know if it wasn't marrying a native
28:55
woman to marry in a family it was to pay
28:58
your enrollment to be you know to be in
29:01
the tribe and then they would just
29:03
settle like settle on the land and so we
29:06
have so many I know on our on our
29:08
Dakotas right we have so many settlers
29:10
that are still there on our treaty land
29:12
and that's really what we was fighting
29:14
in Standing Rock like you all get off of
29:16
our treaty land stop building this oil
29:18
pipeline you don't own this this is our
29:21
treaty land we have reservation land and
29:23
treaty land and so you know um but that
29:26
yeah that's what they did and so with
29:28
that narrative they just think like oh
29:30
you know I always say native people
29:32
black people we're not monolithic people
29:34
no we come in all shades and sizes and
29:37
colors and everything and just to
29:38
constantly you know I think with me um
29:42
you know a lot of people like well she
29:44
is she denying her Blackness or she
29:46
denying her nativeness you know um or
29:49
she doesn't look like she's black and
29:51
Native and why did she why don't she
29:52
just choose one that was something that
29:54
I always got growing up or am I adopted
29:57
because my mother I don't you know
29:58
because I'm not the same skin color as
30:00
my mother like we have a certain
30:02
stereotype of how we want Native
30:04
Americans to look you know and and and
30:07
that is something that we're trying to
30:08
just push away from yeah you know like
30:11
you know the the guy that uh that
30:13
commercial what was his name Cody what's
30:15
his name the one with the tear the tear
30:17
what when he looks at the litter yeah
30:19
the don't Litter iron Cody you know he
30:22
was he was Italian you know he wasn't
30:23
even native damn dude are you kidding me
30:26
I watched that as a kid yeah he was
30:27
Italian he was
30:29
native a commercial s It was a
30:32
commercial in a
30:34
poster yo Hollywood though yeah and so
30:37
we so we have this vision and and it's
30:39
so funny because he wasn't native yeah
30:41
and it's like like with me and Antoine's
30:43
tribe they always will have like you
30:46
know like the western movies out in
30:49
Arizona but they'll be wearing like our
30:51
regalia right like they'll be wearing
30:53
most romanticized I say is is the Lota
30:56
cuz it's the Tepe
30:59
even when you come out this way I I have
31:00
some homies out here they Six Nations
31:03
like yeah people out here TS of the
31:05
teeps and you know wearing headdresses
31:07
and stuff but that comes from our people
31:09
and in media in film and it's always our
31:12
tribe like no shade to Pony over there
31:14
but we we just keep it
31:18
Warrior let's do this I want we got a
31:20
lot of people on the lines I want to
31:21
make sure we get to them Antoine you you
31:23
sent us a song right yeah what can you
31:25
tell us about it uh uh the song um it's
31:29
it's my most popular song right now you
31:31
know I took an incline within the past
31:33
three years um and started selling my
31:36
tours out and this song is like the song
31:39
that everyone sings back to me um it's
31:42
just a I like to Vibe it out and sing I
31:44
I started out rapping and now I do more
31:45
singing but uh I like to incorporate
31:48
traditional singing Because I grew up
31:50
this way and this way you don't quit you
31:51
know this is for my whole the rest of my
31:52
life but um in my music I incorporate
31:55
traditional singing so uh at the end of
31:57
the song you'll hear it I I sing
31:59
traditional on the beat and then now I'm
32:01
tapping in cuz we're revitalizing our
32:03
languages uh too so now in my new music
32:06
that I'm recording currently I'm
32:07
speaking and rapping and singing in my
32:09
language on the Beats which is something
32:11
that's you know indigenizing the the
32:14
music industry so in the in the culture
32:16
needs it what's the what what's the name
32:17
of your language uh so it's it's just my
32:20
tri I'm lot and Omaha so those are the
32:23
languages so Omaha Nebraska Omaha is
32:25
named after the Omaha Tri um Omaha yeah
32:28
I've been trying to get to Omaha for the
32:30
longest too man I could go with you I'm
32:32
trying to go fishing too by the way all
32:34
right anine all right listen we going to
32:36
play this right now we going to take
32:37
your calls 888 742
32:40
3345 yeah
32:42
sh45 gaja hone wolf is with us qu IC is
32:47
with us Antoine X right Anton X ke IMC
32:52
Kei Kei IMC yeah you don't pronounce the
32:56
Q like Co no okay ke IC I love being I
33:01
love learning man like so even with
33:03
languages names I think it's important
33:05
that we humble ourselves and I don't
33:08
even know if it's about humility I just
33:10
like learning the correct way of saying
33:11
things yeah so am I saying your name
33:13
correctly yes you are and I'm so proud
33:15
of you oh thank you thank you
33:18
mom so many people say y NDA or your
33:21
nasda and the fact that you got it right
33:24
thank you that means a lot to me oh
33:25
that's important to us here my nephew
33:27
was was training me as well so he he
33:29
didn't want me to embarrass him right
33:31
right Kanani yeah pretty much um Antoine
33:35
give out your social Anton X music a n t
33:39
o i NE e the letter X music on all
33:42
platform so I've been calling you
33:44
Antoine yeah it's it's spelled Antoine
33:46
but it's Anton Anton on Anton X okay see
33:50
see I'm sway by the way y'all y'all
33:52
y'all been killing my name the whole
33:53
time all right uh we going to take some
33:55
phone lines and we got um we're going to
33:57
go to Montana what's your
34:01
name it's Brad Shields also go byy your
34:04
favorite Indian from Fort belnap Montana
34:07
the Ani and theota people okay all right
34:10
yeah let's give him a round of applause
34:12
yeah Manan was day yes what is that to
34:17
you too good morning how you say it
34:19
haani was day haani
34:25
he yeah he because he's Dakota how do
34:27
you say it um in in
34:31
Dakota State wow okay I love this this
34:35
is see this is Citizens the kind of
34:37
information and education they're trying
34:39
to wipe out of the schools yes why why
34:43
would they want to do that exactly right
34:46
uh you want to
34:47
comment yeah um thank you for I've
34:51
called before I've been listening for a
34:52
long time and uh I just want to say
34:55
thank you sway Tracy and hether you guys
34:57
are awesome and uh thank those guys um
35:00
for coming in and singing those
35:01
beautiful songs yeah that was great and
35:04
uh glad to see that uh Indian music to
35:06
hear it on the radio again besides just
35:08
at home it's cool so thank you guys for
35:10
that I really appreciate it and uh
35:13
Indian country is strong and I could
35:14
hear it through you guys absolutely man
35:17
that's what's up hey man we appreciate
35:19
you a super citizen all right your
35:22
favorite Indian's always here I'll call
35:23
you back sometime absolutely brother do
35:26
sh don't shy did I say that correctly
35:29
okay all right see you later do y'all
35:31
how do y'all resonate with the word
35:34
Indian I'll say I'll say Oklahoma they
35:37
still call it Indian Territory and in
35:39
the treaties it's Indian Territory so
35:41
they kind of just like a lot of Oklahoma
35:42
native say Indian just it's just you're
35:44
grow you grow up with it so if you ask a
35:47
lot of Oklahoma natives they're like
35:48
yeah you know we're Indian or native or
35:49
indigenous for me um I'm I mean not
35:52
everybody's going to call me pawy or
35:54
Simo you know so they'll just be like
35:55
you're native you're indigenous Indian
35:58
um I I don't really take offense to it
36:00
you know I know who I am and that's you
36:01
know my where did it come from I read
36:04
once that um explorers who have been to
36:07
India came over here and thought the
36:09
folks look similar so they called them
36:11
Indians there's that that story and
36:13
there's one the indos you know in God
36:16
they try to say that narrative too like
36:17
people in God were Godlike and things
36:20
like that so there's so many stories um
36:23
you know it's just you know one of those
36:25
uh English words man you know I feel it
36:28
just translated today I think it's uh
36:30
it's cool on on on our end you know but
36:33
I like to be called native I like to be
36:35
called native too but you know our
36:37
native people we say Indian but it's
36:39
like one of them things when someone
36:40
else says it's like hold up call me
36:41
native you like if they come up say are
36:44
you an Indian yeah yeah we we got one of
36:46
those absolutely we get it we get
36:50
it now if they say engine yeah
36:54
yeah um why is it this month important
36:57
to point out and it's a month in theory
37:00
but we should be celebrating the
37:02
National American heritage month or
37:04
Native American heritage month every
37:06
single day I was going to say that man
37:08
every single day and I think that um
37:11
well thank you all first for just saying
37:13
yes for us to come to celebrate Native
37:16
American heritage month because these
37:18
platforms like your platform um and
37:20
urban media needs to be able to amplify
37:23
it the same way that it's Amplified for
37:25
latinx or Latin you know Latino heritage
37:28
month and black history month I think
37:30
that Native American Heritage Month
37:31
needs to be amp um Amplified just as
37:33
much you know and and I want to call out
37:35
Target um because I really want to
37:38
curate a Native American Heritage Month
37:40
section for Target do they have one no
37:43
they don't oh okay let's get it Target
37:46
yeah I think that because you know when
37:47
you go to Target you see black history
37:49
month and they bring in all these
37:50
amazing entrepreneurs and everything
37:52
same thing with Lattin next you know
37:54
entrepreneurs Brands and Target does
37:56
doesn't do it at all and we have so many
37:59
great entrepreneurs Brands Corporation
38:01
you know designers I'm wearing um Kayla
38:04
looking horse um bodycon dress she made
38:07
this great Holly long um Holly young um
38:11
she made this beautiful shell necklace
38:13
you know so these type of things I mean
38:15
I think that should be Amplified we talk
38:18
about that all the time here and I know
38:19
it sounds really really crazy but a lot
38:22
of it comes down to like publicist yeah
38:26
and and who you hire sometimes I say
38:28
some of these things and these you it's
38:32
National Hot Dog Day like who the H like
38:35
I don't no I'm just
38:38
making was like where nobody told
38:41
me but but we say like oh my gosh you
38:45
need a publicist like you know and
38:47
people don't realize like each ethnicity
38:50
needs a really dope publicity firm
38:53
because these are how these things like
38:56
liter literally get going into Corporate
38:58
America and the spill over and this one
39:00
knows that one and this one went to
39:02
schools with this person's Daddy and
39:03
then next thing you know these deals get
39:05
done but I I get it I I know when you
39:08
said it I was like oh my gosh it makes
39:11
so much sense it's publicity that's how
39:14
we know about all of this how did
39:16
Valentine's Day turn into a billion
39:18
dollar day it's marketing it it really
39:20
is when we buying cards and you know
39:23
flowers and and crap you know but this
39:26
what
39:27
yeah I think that since we've been doing
39:29
a lot of um since Standing Rock we've
39:31
been seeing a lot more of representation
39:34
for Native American heritage month but
39:37
but it does need like more it takes this
39:40
it takes uh what you just said you said
39:42
this is this is good we need to bring
39:43
y'all back that's what it takes cuz we
39:45
we we didn't get this and I have a
39:47
platform and if you guys in town
39:48
tomorrow come to my show we we'll be
39:50
there tomorrow got and we got a show
39:52
tomorrow where
39:54
at Urban indigenous Collective here in
39:57
the city at 7:00 from 7 to 10 go to
40:00
Urban indigenous collective.org there
40:02
are a h a workspace hub for Native
40:05
Americans and Indigenous people here in
40:08
the city and then we also are on
40:10
Saturday we are going to um relatives
40:14
NYC relatives Art NYC is a um a Native
40:18
American store so you could get all your
40:20
earrings your jackets all that fly stuff
40:23
there and we'll be there um at four
40:26
right on Saturday four o'cl okay yep I
40:29
want to thank y'all for coming by um I
40:31
wish we had more time but I appreciate
40:33
the time that you were able to give you
40:35
got a lot of callers Q from Montana he's
40:37
a native he wanted to shout out the
40:39
nation his what's your tribe
40:42
Q absal Nation from Crow from yeah Crow
40:46
Montana absal I hope okay all right
40:50
thank you you a citizen s
40:52
morning thank you new new new in Iowa
40:55
what would you like to say say hey
40:57
what's up sway how you doing how to be
40:59
everybody there hey what's up fam um
41:02
yeah yeah um my kids are Native American
41:05
I'm black beautiful I'm ban and black
41:08
rather yeah yeah my daughters play for
41:10
msaki tribe here in Tam Iowa they land
41:13
is settled if y'all know Tam everybody
41:16
know Noo-noo Noo-noo means something in
41:18
in their language it's not good y'all so
41:21
I'm not gonna say it okay okay all right
41:24
um yeah but yeah I appreciate y'all man
41:27
my daughter is yep and my son they
41:30
Native American and they don't they
41:33
don't you know put that out there like
41:34
she was saying and my kids they love
41:37
their culture and my kids go to the
41:38
Native American school okay uh they go
41:41
to the Native American school Noo-noo
41:43
that's beautiful okay man well thank you
41:46
because my mother to learn okay thank
41:49
you noo you're citizen man morning all
41:52
right and then TJ I know you've been
41:53
heard hold for a long time you
41:55
representing the tribe
41:57
yes I do which
42:01
one I represent mud Indian tribe out of
42:04
Washington state
42:06
beautiful okay I'm part ofu and suam
42:10
Dames which is two
42:13
Seattle's uh tribes uh before they had
42:17
the treaties and the wars back in the
42:21
1800s um I like to shout out to my tribe
42:25
and my people
42:26
for everything that we overcome over the
42:29
years you know being dirt poor having
42:32
nothing you know my family worked in
42:34
fields just to Keep Us Alive eating
42:36
tortillas and beans because I'm half
42:38
Mexican
42:40
also and um it was hard growing up for
42:44
me because I had to grow up
42:46
in uh society and I grew up in a little
42:50
town that really racist you know when I
42:52
grew up and going through fights and get
42:56
getting spit on and called you know
42:58
dirty Indian throughout around our tribe
43:01
and we didn't have land back then and
43:03
today we're on this thing called a
43:06
buyback
43:08
program buyback or land you got to buy
43:11
back your own land oh my goodness hey
43:13
land back land that's what it that's
43:15
what you got on yeah man hey TJ thank
43:17
you for telling us your story brother
43:19
you're a super citizen TJ morning they
43:22
got some amazing Salman there if you
43:25
ever wanted I don't know what kind of
43:27
salmon we're eating but if you want real
43:29
authentic salmon go to the tribes in
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Washington I just came from um
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University of Idaho man you know that
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it's really dark pink yeah I know that
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that you eating clone s yeah yeah that's
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Farm rais clone s um listen um I want to
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thank y'all for coming by we got my
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cousin E40 about to come up next you
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want to bring them in y'all want to meet
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E4 we would love to okay yeah we going
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to bring him in I want him to meet you
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maybe it's a collaboration that could
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happen Okay Okay uh maybe you you know I
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could you know we'll figure it out yo 40
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water and he's celebrating the
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anniversary of his debut album man it's
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the Goon with the spoon himself 40 water
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huh come on man kzo kzo I wanted to
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introduce you to these F these brothers
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right here kzo uh this is Keith IMC to
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your and this right here is y y NAA yes
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Lone Wolf this is Keith
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IMC this is Anton X right here um that's
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Heather B as you know okay
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um this Anton X to your right right
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there Cuzo um yeah okay right there
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that's Anton oh y'all met all right and
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they're artists and uh and we're
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celebrating Native American heritage
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month I want to thank you all for coming
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by okay God bless you God bless you if
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they want to reach you how could they
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reach you Queen your NAA Queen y o n a s
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d a thank you so much Sway and Heather B
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I appreciate you all for giving us this
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opportunity and happy Native American
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Heritage Month
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absolutely hey on the way out I want to
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say thank you guys thanks Heather
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Heather be sway we going to be back and
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we're going to split some bars next time
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absolutely come back and split them bars
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all right
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okay
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