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All right. Good afternoon, ladies.
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What's your name, department, and level?
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Um, I'm in pure industrial chemistry.
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I'm in my final year.
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Wow. Nice to meet you. What about you?
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Pure and Industrial Chemistry 400 level.
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That is final year actually.
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Wow. That is really nice. So can you
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guys tell me what pure and industrial
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chemistry is all about as a course in
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Okay. Um pure industrial chemistry just
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like the name entails. It's like where
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you have two branch of chemistry. Pure
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chemistry and industrial chemistry kind
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of merged together as a study. So the
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pure industrial the pure chemistry there
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talks more about or focuses more on the
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theoretical aspect of chemistry
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when it has to do with acquiring
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knowledge then the industrial chemistry
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focuses more on the practical aspect
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Okay. Okay. So how many years is this
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course uh here at the university? Okay,
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for now on it's 4 years but with the
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plans of the department they they want
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to increase it to 5 years in order to
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add it so that students can be you can
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Okay. So why did you decide to study
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pure and industrial chemistry?
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when I wanted to enter this university
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as they say university of Nigeria you
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know the hype that only university in
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Nigeria so I actually wanted to study um
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chemical engineering but this school was
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not doing chemical engineering so they
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say that the core and industrial
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chemistry is actually chemical
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engineering they doing basically
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everything chemical engineering are
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doing so I decided to apply for
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so So what's your in final year right?
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Okay so from your first year till now
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how has the courses been like how
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challenging is this course?
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Okay, if I'm being honest, I would not
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really say it's an easy one. I won't say
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it's an easy one because there's a lot
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of rules in our department mostly based
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on the well some of our courses are
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So when you fail them like let me say
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for example in our first year um we had
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our first semester we had chem 101.
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So going to our 200 level we do the
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continuation of the course chem 2011. So
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unfortunately if you fail chem one you
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will not be able to write chem 2011. So
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that's kind of an extra year not even
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carry over extra year.
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So that's quite challenging and with
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that some of us have tried our best to
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not fail the course at all.
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So aside that other courses are quite
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relatable but being honest they are
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quite challenging as well.
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Okay. Okay. Let me quickly ask since the
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course is play on industrial chemistry.
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Is this just all about chemistry or it
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entails physics, mathematics and other
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We b a lot of courses. We bought a lot
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of courses. Honestly, it's not really
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just about chemistry. I feel like in a
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way we are versatile. We both physics
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at some point even in our final year we
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b mechanical engineering course that we
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offered. In our second year, we both um
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a foreign language course. I offered
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German. My friend Yes. offered French.
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you know, versatile. So, yeah, that's
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But you still remember any of the German
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Is that the basics while
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So, you can you can still speak French.
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Okay. So, Pan industrial chemistry, it
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it means you have to be very good in
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And you have to have a good um
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foundation in chemistry.
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Because I want to ask if for a student
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that did not get a very good foundation
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in secondary school if it's possible to
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do well in this course.
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Yes. I would say it's it will be
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possible but it has to take the person's
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determination to do extra work.
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Because this you have to go back work on
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your background then start building from
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Yeah. It will it will work but you
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you'll be willing to do extra work.
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Okay. Okay. So have you engaged in any
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apart from academics are you engaged in
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other things like extracurricular
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activities a side hustle?
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We yeah not really side hustle but I
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have extracurricular activities
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mostly in church. I'm a member of the
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because the reason why I'm asking is I
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want to see if it's possible to combine
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a business, a activity like your church
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with your your cause like what
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relationship how is it?
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I feel like this depends on the person
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just like she said the determination is
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also here and even discipline
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and it also depends on the person. If
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you're somebody that can handle
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different things at the same time,
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you can handle it. But if you're
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somebody that you have to take your time
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to do some things, then you don't really
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have to juggle a lot of things to be
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able to be study pure industrial
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I just I get you. I get you. I get you.
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So, have you had any challenging
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experience like from your first year to
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now? What level would you say is the
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most difficult and maybe any challenging
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Yeah, I would say that my first year was
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the most difficult. Reason being that I
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came into school very naive, not knowing
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my lefts, right and center or not
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knowing where to start from and I
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resumed late. So it's actually affected
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the first year. So that's basically my
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worst year for me. Then my best year
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um in terms of academics is actually 400
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level because now I I got to understand
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the ways um they set their exams.
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Yeah. How they want you to answer their
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questions and all because it's not all
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about just knowing the course. You have
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to know your lecturers.
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Yeah. It's necessary you study your
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because that's the only way you can do
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very well. Even though you know some
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chemistry, you have to know your
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lecturers so as to answer their their
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exams, their questions correctly. So
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this 100 level has been my best. Yeah.
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Wow. Wonderful. Wonderful. So since we
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are still talking about academics, uh
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what has been your study strategy, you
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know, for you to for you to really be
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able to pass because for you to be in
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final year, it means something.
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uh mostly just like she said
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always be in class to be able to know
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how your lecturers like whenever you're
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in class you'll understand the things
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that the lecturer will ponder on more
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and someday you would know where to
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for the exams to prepare well for the
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exams then aside that it's also left on
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make your research and find out so that
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you'll be able to understand the course.
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Cuz one thing about chemistry is if you
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don't really understand how some
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you just have to just cram them. So if
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you know how this thing is starting and
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what the end will be like, you would
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know how to manipulate your ways till
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the end. So that's just
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it's just about having a proper
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the reaction, the basic reactions for
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some impressions and all of that. Yes.
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So what about you? Do you used to go for
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Okay, add what you want to say. To add
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to what she has said, you have to start
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reading early. That's issues. Read
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early. Even if you don't understand the
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concept while reading, maybe before the
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class or before full resumption, when
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you come to class, you understand faster
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than people that did not read before
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attending the class and it will help you
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to move faster. So I recommend read
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before going to class, read after class.
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Yes, I recommend that. These are the
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strategy you use and attend class.
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very necessary in chemistry department.
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You can you might not attend class in
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other department and still pass.
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But in chemistry department, you have to
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attend class for you to make a good
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Yeah. Because it's when you're in class
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that you actually know what the lecturer
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wants you to write for her.
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Okay. Let me just use for an example.
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the lecturer maybe the lecturer ask you
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what is a no you can you can tell
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yourself I already know what a mo is now
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from different text books but this
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lecture might just tell you okay this is
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what I want you to write this is the
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basic thing if I don't see it in your
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answer you're going to fail so and if
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you're not in class you're not going to
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that idea so it's necessary you be in
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class read before coming to class read
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after class and don't cram
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try to like chemistry try to love
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chemistry. So that's the only way I
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think you can do well.
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Interesting because this is just made me
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remember when I was in first year my 101
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I used to go to class. So but in class
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the lecture was just like know this know
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that. So those that will not come for
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the class they go and read the whole
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material and nothing will come out. It's
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just that particular thing the lecture
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will say know this and and comes out. So
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it makes all about ninth class. You guys
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don't go for ninth classes.
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I don't know. Um, night class don't work
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Yeah, it don't work for me. I prefer
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being in my lodge. I sleep early at
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wake up in the night and read and when I
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feel tired, I sleep back.
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Yeah. Because I don't know for other
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persons, but when I'm tired and I'm
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feeling sleepy, I don't used to get
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anything. I will not achieve sleeping
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and I will not achieve reading. So, I
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don't want to lose in both side. I
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usually sleep well then wake up to mid.
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But yeah, if night class works for you
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So does it work for you? Nice class.
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I can do all night in my house
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but not necessarily going out.
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So just about understanding what works
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So how lucrative is this course? What
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are the opportunities that are available
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Well, if I'm being honest, there are a
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lot of opportunities in chemistry. But
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chemistry is like everywhere. Even in
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courts, they can fight chemistry when it
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comes to criminal cases that has to do
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It's only a chemistry that can be able
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to identify which drug, if this drug is
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really illegal or not illegal, stuff
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So, it's versatile. It's almost
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everywhere. Just that you know how
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Nigeria take now. So
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mostly I feel like where you will see
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more opportunities is outside
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outside the country. Outside the country
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based on how our country is right now is
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mostly outside. Yeah. So
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yeah understand you want to add
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Okay. I would say that chemistry is a
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very good course and it's very
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versatile. But for me this this
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generation of um tech
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if you are able to add tech knowledge to
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your to chemistry you you actually go
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Because of recent I got to understand
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that you can actually introduce AI and
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machine learning to chemistry.
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Yeah. Because of recent they started
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producing drug. As a chemist we
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um introduce new compounds actually.
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Actually we are working on that in my
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project we make a new compound that can
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be used for drug design and in last uh
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in our last seminar somebody actually
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worked on drug design
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where the person understood that you can
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actually use AI to make your work easier
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and if you are able and versatile in AI
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you can actually create algorithm that
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can help you as a chemist and it to just
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be your algorithm chemistry algorithm.
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So it's if someone can actually combine
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AI, machine learning to chemistry,
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I think something that can actually go
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Right. That is very very interesting. My
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next question is what advice do you have
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for someone that wants to study
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uh pure and industrial chemistry. In
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some schools is pure chemistry, some
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schools is pure and uh industrial
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chemistry. But a school like UN is pure
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and industrial chemistry. So the
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students have gotten admission for this
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course. What advice would you give to
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Okay, from my perspective,
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um my advice would be if you want to
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study pure industrial chemistry in UN
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cuz I don't know about other school,
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you have to attend classes.
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Like like our lecture will always say if
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you attend classes, he's sure that you
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If you attend classes and listening to
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the lecturer, you you surely pass just
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like pass. But if you want to round more
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that's still left to you attend classes
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so that you have extra you have a basic
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knowledge before you can get the extras
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try to read more on that particular
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that was handled or that day read more
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on that course prepare for your exam
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even before the time comes
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prepare for your exam before the time
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comes so that you know exam day you
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you get that writing. So that's
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you start reading here and they will
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fall sick and everything. Okay. Okay.
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You want to add anything to this or
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I would say um I would say that are you
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coming to study industrial chemistry for
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If it's for the money and the quick
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maybe you want a quick money
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I'll say that you might not get a quick
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as you think but if you are very good
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and that's why I'm saying that
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you should be somebody that will be able
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to combine tech and chemistry because
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the world is going vaster and be able to
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start putting yourself out there.
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Yeah. Start putting what you can do out
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there. actually you can actually start
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building your LinkedIn
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that you are a researcher.
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Yeah. Because um my sponsor was telling
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us that he was able to leave the country
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and do his PhD in 2 months. Something
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that would have taken him like 2 years
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because he was able to make research
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look for people that need his work.
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That's the topic he was working on.
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visit outside the country, send them an
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email telling them that he's working on
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this particular topic and he can
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actually offer them a help
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for them to complete it. They actually
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saw his email and ask him to come over.
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They sponsored everything. So if you are
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the type that says the internet does not
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matter, you can actually you just be
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here finish and local
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and just be carrying file all about. So
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my advice is that if you're coming to
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study industrial chemistry, be prepared
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first prepare for the shape because it's
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not easy. At the same time be wide, be
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versatile so that you not just finish
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the study and people will be like he's
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he's not a graduate and he's not doing
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Okay. So uh can you describe the typical
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day of an industrial chemistry or pure
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industrial chemistry students? Like when
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do you come for your lectures? Uh when
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do you go home? Do you guys come for
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lectures every day on weekends? Like
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what is your day like as a student in
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Okay. For me personally, my day is
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always filled up. Like most times I
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prepare as early as 8:00 a.m.
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Okay. and I'll be going back home around
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9:00 p.m. based on my other activities.
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Yes. So, just like I said, we prepare as
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early as 8:00 and start coming to
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classes cuz most times you might come to
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class and you feel like if the class is
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by night, you can come by 9:10. As you
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are coming, the door is locked already
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and you cannot enter.
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Even during afternoon hours, if you
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don't enter the class before the
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lecture, you will not be able.
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You will not be you will not be able to
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enter the classes. So as for me uh petro
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chemistry students my day is always
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filled up like we hardly have
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and for oursel even on weekends we are
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lecturers we are fit classes exactly so
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we don't really really have time for
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ourselves so to say we don't really have
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okay so what would you describe a
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I'll say it's filled with chemistry a
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day filled up with chemisture
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Yeah, it come come out very early for
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people like coming for people that like
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coming out. Okay. Actually, it's neat.
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Me I I used to wake up very early uh
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prepare at most be here by 8 a.m.
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At times go back 700 p.m.
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Okay. Plus other activities. No, in this
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this class in this departmental
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chemistry go back 7:00 p.m. But that I
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would say most of times is not because
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of the lectures. It's because of my uh
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lecturer and supervisor that would like
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me to do something but generally there
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are times lectures don't end by 5:00
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p.m. 4:00 p.m. and we don't have classes
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during weekend. Yeah. Intense class.
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When I mean intense, sometimes from 9:00
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a.m. to 2 2:00 p.m. 3:00 p.m. and all on
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So, it's always very hectic.
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Wow. Wow. So, thank you very much. I
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really appreciate you guys and we wish
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you guys success in your exams and in
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your future endeavors. All right. Thank