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good morning everyone welcome back to a special edition to the attack in third we want to tell
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people we're going to do a show right before the big Thanksgiving feast
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And, and I am extremely sad to get back on track. We took a break a little bit last week, but we are back. We're excited
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I'm alongside my right hand man, Steve Fendenta. Steve, what's going on
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And of course our special guest, the, the man himself, the number one NYC FC beat reporter, our man, Scott Churchins
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Good morning, Scott. How are we doing gentlemen? Thank you for letting me come back on
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I appreciate it. Apparently, I haven't done that bad a job with you. No, no, no, no
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No, you're not fired yet. No, no, no. Listen, there's been – so, last night, the Philadelphia – let's get right into it
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Actually, we just heard Ernest's – the general manager, we just heard his great, great press conference
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And it's pretty much stuff that we already know that's going on with this Philadelphia Union team
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about the moves that he made and going forward. And I know there's union fans are out there upset with moving on from LeBlanc
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or I'm sorry, LeBlanc, Flock, Matt Riel. I mean, I get it, favorite guys
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But really, to me, he got rid of the dead weight on this team
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Those guys really weren't doing anything. I mean, Matt Riel has been here, what, five years or six years, rather, since 18
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I mean, two years ago, it was probably, I mean, 13 appearances, five starts
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Really didn't produce a heck of a whole lot. You know, they've run Juan Torres, and he only had one goal in 14 matches two years ago
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He didn't sniff the field last year. Yeah, Leon LaFlock, I mean, really, he only had three assists
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He's got a bunch of yellow cards underneath his name. then the only one that's really bothering me again he's not on the score sheet anywhere
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but sam adrian like to me sam adrian can stretch the field for you he was the perfect substitute for
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quinn solven as he came off the bench because again you're you're bringing a speedy guy who
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can open and stretch up the field that gets scoring opportunities so for me i think this
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is where it's going to hurt the union a little bit. But, you know, that's my take on it
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I mean, to me, like I just said, they got rid of the dead weight and they're going to move forward from here
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First of all, good morning to you guys as well. And, Steve, what is your take from the press conference that we know of
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and your thoughts on these guys getting shipped out? um the the three that i'm okay with with the in negotiations with um craig bedoya and elliot
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um as long as andre blake is going to be there and in goal i'm okay with elliot being there just
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as long as there's more depth coming back um in the center back uh position and just kind of my
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notes from Ernst. It sounds like he wants to wait on final decisions until a head coach is found
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which is good. I'm happy on that. Now, is the head coach going to be a yes guy where then it
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doesn't really matter when it comes to roster decisions? And then Bedoya's role. The three of
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us, we were chatting about it before the show. It sounds like he wants Bedoya to be this grandpa
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in the locker room, this babysitter in the locker room and on the bench and on the field at times
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and to bring that veteran presence. And that's fine for me. It all depends on how much you're
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going to be then bringing him back, how much money you're giving him to play that sort of role
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And if those minutes are going to be actually taken away from potentially bringing somebody in
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who is going to make an actual impact, not just, hey, guys, you know
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like in these situations, this is how we do. You know, development is what he kept saying
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And it sounds like that's why Flock ended up being let go
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just lack of proving he is developing in his process. And I feel bad for him because he had the injury that he was dealing with
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earlier in the season that he came back from. I feel like he had certain moments where he did show that grittiness
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that Tanner was talking about, that he was saying that he was hearing from across the league
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it's easy to come to Subaru Park now. And that's what was aggravating him the most
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was I'm seeing no one in the stands anymore. Less seats are being filled. The performance on the
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field is reflecting that. And now he's hearing, oh yeah, it's easy to go to Subaru park. It used to be hard to go to Subaru park
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So he wants to get back to the grittiness, get back to their strengths and get back to their style
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Which I guess that's good to hear, but now what, what is the plan going forward
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And it sounds like it's going to be a lot of, a lot of the youth. Yeah. And same question that, you know, I'll go to Scott
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What was your take so far on, like I said, from an outside perspective, look at the union again
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They move on from the coach, and we're going to touch on that later
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But what's your perspective now on to this whole press conference and what the union are trying to do here
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Well, I mean, Tanner straight up came out and said, we're looking to get younger
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You know, he didn't beat around the bush. He was very direct about it, which honestly is the way you should handle it
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You know, none of the soft shoe, none of the toe depth. he's like we want to get younger which is ironic because you're already one of the youngest teams
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in the league to begin with you know um i mean i think the average age is like 24 ish give or take
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you know probably what top i think top five youngest i think it was but you know they're
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clearly looking to go with the sullivan brothers as the new leaders of the squad going forward in
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the next few years i think um you see someone like bedoya who is 37 years old and like you said
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you try to like flush them a little bit more into like the leadership role because you have a roster
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right now, you know, that you only have one, two, right now, one, two, three, five guys who are over
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the age of 30, you know, Blake's 34. And then basically you have, I would say, well, all right
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Martinez is the longer on the roster, but you know, Glesnes, you know, you only have a couple of guys there at the 30 or 31, and then you have all of these kids, and I'm going to say literally
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kids here. So you, do you keep Bedoya around to be that mentor or do you make Blake say the new guy
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You know, because Blake has been there for a long time right now. He's 34. You know, he is somebody who can easily step into that leadership role, you know, and be the Bedoya if they don't want to pay him
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Well, and you bring us on a good point, too, because during the press conference, Ernest said that Bedoya does have a second job
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So, I mean, he's part of the front office moves. So whether he steps down, he's still going to be part of the organization
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He might not be on the field, but, I mean, he's, you know, again, he's going to be like a Philadelphia fly around here
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He's going to be like one of those Broad Street bullies. Like, he's pretty much got a tombstone sitting around up in that, you know
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by a Subaru park somewhere. You know, he's never going to leave. He's got a suite somewhere
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Again, he's the face of the franchise. Like you said, does he step down and let Blake
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Because, to me, the right one was on the wall. This was Blake's team because the way the defense, you know
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only responded when he was on the field compared to when Rick or Simla was on the field
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So, but yeah, it's a great question. And to see, like you said, this team just wants to get younger
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And it's going to be interesting to see how they move on
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And to me, Ernestis did, again, came out. And the day after, actually the morning after, he comes out and answers the hard questions right on the chin
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So I know a lot of people are totally against him for moving on from Jim
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current, but it's a wait and see game and see whether, again
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it's not, he didn't rush. Nope. Nobody in here yet. He's still going around the world, finding the right guy
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Uh we know St Louis just picked up uh Millsburg you know Obviously Messier just got his boy in here
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New York's in – we're going to get into that a little bit later. New York has a wide-open spot, and so does Vancouver
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It actually has my eyebrow raising for a future question that might come to fruition, but we'll see what happens
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But anyway, let's get into some of these comments here before we go any further
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J.D. Walker chimed in and says, Good morning, folks. Thanks, LeBlanc, for your contributions
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But good luck. You're at your next stop. Kid deserves a home, and you're up somewhere
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So what's your take with that, Steve? I was a little upset about this one
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As a fan, he's been one of my favorite players. his grittiness
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You know, Ernst talked about grittiness and how the team kind of lacked that this season
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And I felt like when he was in, yeah, there were some moments where in the attacking third
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where he was really bad and it stood out. And I think he was also a Jim Curtin guy
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He was labeled as that. And so I think with those two things, you couldn't climb, you couldn't get over those
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And so I think that's what kind of ultimately, I mean, he said it, it was the lack of development
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He was, I will say that I was pretty happy with how up forward and straight honest Tanner was with the questions
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Here goes one from JT as well. It goes, Sam, as a striker, has the one job, has one job to score goals
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He didn't do that. Again, good luck and wish you luck to wish you the best
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So, yeah. And so to me, it's again, I get it. He didn't score goals. He didn't come here to do his job
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But if you look at the hindsight and what he was able to do to stretch the field
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it caused defenses problems like, you know, when you get solvent on that field now
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what's going to be the feeling? And like Scott just said, it's going to be a bunch of young puppies
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Great, but I know that Sam here is a proven commodity that he can stretch the field with his legs
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Again, no goal, no assist. I get it. But for him to stretch out the field and cause problems with his speediness
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you need that. You need to burn out your opposition on defense
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You need to do that. And him and Sullivan were the one-two punch for that job, for that role
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And then he asked JD also asked how was The presser this morning
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Like I said JD It was your name Blah blah blah blah
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It's the stuff that we already know Tanner answered on his chin
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Again just by reading The Facebook feed I've seen a lot a lot of upset
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You know union fans and stuff Still angry with this guy And he's going to get that until
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so they can do something huge, you know, going down the stretch here
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But, all right, Scott, so, again, I'm happy with the move. I think this was a great, great move by the Philadelphia Union
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to move on from, again, dead weight. These guys that he moved on for were not producing at all
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and like Steve just said, you got rid of a guy who, listen
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I'm going to get rid of Jim Curran, and I might as well get rid of his luggage as I can. So they told us not just him out there
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They threw his clothes. They threw out Jim Kern, his clothes, his shoes, everything
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They put everything on the lawn for Jim Kern. They threw him out, the TV, his washer, his clothes
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I mean, you name it. Everything but the kitchen sink, literally, are out there now
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Hand sanitizer, take it off. Fair brand underwear. I mean, they're all gone
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I mean, Jim is completely out. So, all right, well, listen, there is something I want to get into too
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because, Scott, first of all, I got to ask you, being in that press room
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what happened last week? I mean, hometown does not show up, get run out by the Red Bulls
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What happened? And what was your thoughts on that? I mean, you pretty much went off
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I mean, you made the high blood pressure line, mind you. You know, it's funny because – thank you for that one
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I will say this right off the bat. You know, the mix zone, which, you know, that new system that they have
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which is technically not really what the league is supposed to do, but they do anyway, you know, had a very weird feel to it
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You know, so all the players I think knew this was going to happen before the rest of us did because I've been to end-of-season pressers before
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and there's a degree of depression when your team is knocked out. But there was a brand-new level
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You know, me, Rich Mancuso, Ernesto, a lot of us were talking about the fact that it just felt off
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And I think the I think the players knew that Cushing was gone, you know, because it was an internal thing
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There was some talk about like Arsenal women and whatnot. But that game, to me, it was a successful season
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You know, I think they, you know, from my mind, reaching the playoffs, you know, sixth place, taking down FC Cincinnati, you know, and then moving on to the next round was something to be excited about
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But, yeah, you got ousted on your home turf by your derby rivals, you know, and it was a very boring game
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some of us and i hate to say including myself we're starting to actually get a little drowsy
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so i'm sitting there in the press box trying to stay awake it was that dull you know two goals in
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24 minutes and the rest of it was just like the equivalent of like neutral zone trap the entire
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time you know and by the by the end by like nine by like uh like seven o'clock or so all of us are
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sitting there just getting bleary eyed but cushing it was funny because i had the first question
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leading off the press conference about how do you take this momentum into the next season
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And he gave a very generic answer. And it was interesting because even then, I think he knew he was done
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You know, he's been denying the rumors for some time about Arsenal. The fans have never really embraced him because the predecessor, Ronnie Dialo, when they won
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the MLS Cup, stripped down to his underwear, was doing pushups in rainy Portland
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You know, yeah, it's one of the greatest videos of just any soccer because he did it a bunch
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of years ago in Europe and he promised if you ever want a cup, we do it again. So Cushing is
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not that personality, you know, and in fiery places like New York city or Philadelphia
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you know, having a very quiet Zen guy can sometimes rub the fans the wrong way. Curtin
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I think worked, you know, a little bit there because he had this certain suave, a certain
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you know, demeanor Cushing never did, you know, and as a result, the fans since day one were like
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Cushing out, go, you know, Reddit was all over the moon. People were sending me videos about
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he's gone oh my god i'm so happy right now videos from their car and crap you know i'm
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disappointed i'm not surprised i'm disappointed you know i think if he got another year i think
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he would have had some success you know um he's a good guy he's a good family guy you know and
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i think it's probably the best move in general you know if the people don't watch it don't be there Yeah Which
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Well this kind of leads me into my next Question and yeah
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And look I so you're pretty much Telling me that because they already
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Knew this move is probably going to happen That the team was just not there
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Physically on the field and mentally Not just on vacation as it is
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They're ready to go golf and then think about next Year so I got to ask the next
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Question I'm going to go to Steve on this So I really ponder my mind
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And I talked to you prior to the show I want to just play devil's advocate with you
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If you are Jim Curtin, and you get two contract offers, you tell the franchise what kind of zeros you want to add to it
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You get two offers that come to your web. You get one from Vancouver, and you get one from New York
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Do you go to New York, or do you go to Vancouver? Do you stay away from Philly
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You might not see them as much. You just stay up in that Northwest
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You're going to face Seattle, the LA teams, et cetera, try and push that team further
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They're all going to come in swing. Or do you go to New York if they offered you a deal and just mentally just
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drive a sword through the organization? Where do you go? And I just want to play
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So, I mean, I want to see what your thoughts are. If we're just, you know, playing, I'm going to NYCFC
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Every time I think because exactly what Scott said earlier a couple of minutes ago about how his sort of coaching style worked because of his charisma and his character It worked here I feel like him coming back here
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you would have a lot of the fan base kind of like, you know what? I don't blame you for the way
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you were treated on your exit. I don't blame you for doing that. Now that it would only be that
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first game that Philadelphia would give him that like, you know, round of applause, let's clap it, but let him beat
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let him beat the union at NYC with NYC FC. Every game after that would be screw that guy
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Never liked him, everything like that. But yeah, no, if, if I really
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if I had both of those contracts laid out and everything I wanted, give me
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give me NYC FC. Yeah, and I'm about to ask Steve, Scott, the same questions
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But we've got some comments coming in. Yeah, Steve, you want to click them up
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So we've got, he says, NYCFC fans better be careful on the coaching change
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Scott, I've got to ask you, why is he putting this up here? Because the fans never embraced him
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I mean, there were literal Twitter profiles that were just Cushing out. You know, and it was just basically Cushing's name and the red line through it
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You know, I mean, there was pictures of him just, you know, photoshopped images of Cushing looking stupid
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You know, again, he never had that personality, that vibes with New York
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And as a result, like I said, it just never gelled. I think that's part of the problem
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I mean, he's led the team to the playoffs two out of the last three years. You know, Eastern Conference Finals, the loss to Philly a couple years back
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and then made the playoffs this past year and then missed the other one
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because they had a massive turnover in the roster and it took time for the new guys that were brought in the middle of the season to gel
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But in the end, the result in the New York City area where everybody is just pissed
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I mean, listen, Philly, I'll be honest with you, Philly is like Queens
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where it has its mellow aspect. New York City, with all the teams and the legacy involved
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The Yankees, the Giants, you know, the Knicks, the Rangers, all these teams that perennially fail year after year after year
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There is just this increased anger and hostility here where it's like, you know, basically after one game
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if Pep Guardiola came over and didn't win game one, they'd be like, Pep out
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Yeah, right. You know, they don't care, you know, and that's where that impatient, very, very tick tock mentality is
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where it's like success or the door. i think it's a little bit of a tiktok mentality right so and see this is this is and i'm going
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to answer this one and scott you're going to like this since you're a movie guy and i'm going to ask
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the same question as i did to steve i'm going to ask this to myself if i'm jim curtain i'm 100
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going to nycfc if they offered me the deal just playing devil's advocate they offered me a deal
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I'm going to New York. And you want to know why? Because the general manager
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of the Philadelphia Union handed me a bunch of bad tools and expected me
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to fix his house. Knowing it was going to collapse before the fall came in here
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So, you're throwing me out the door and expecting me to fix your house
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with bused-out tools. And you just threw me in the house. Now you're throwing my furniture out the door
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You're throwing all my clothes on the lawn. So what I'm going to do, I'm going to go the Terry Silver route from Cobra Kai
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I'm going to – listen, this is where it all makes sense
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I'm going to go there. I'm going to – every time we come to Philadelphia, I'm going to take it at Pat's or Gina's
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whatever cheesesteak you want, Del Sandro's. And then we're going to go to my shore house and chill there and have the time of our lives
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because that Saturday that we have to go and report to Subaru Park
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I'm going to beat the brakes of the Philadelphia Union. and I'm going to drive mentally a sword right through the chest of that front office
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And the fans, the Philadelphia fans, will then turn their backs on the Union
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and give them nothing but the boot burns, and ultimately I win
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And every chance I get, every time you see the NYCFC on that schedule
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you better have it as a chalked L. Sorry for my Cobra Kai rant
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But, yeah, I fan of the show. JD feels the same way. Spoiler on that one, though. Yes, yes
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JD feels the same way. take a year off and chill with his kids and, and, and, and sip some mojitas at the shore house next
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summer. And then JD's with, with, with you and I, he says it here, if Jim wanted to be petty enough
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go to NYCFC and he wouldn't blame him. So, you know, it's funny. I don't see it happen
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I don't, I would see Vancouver first or someplace else like Toronto, you know, I mean, would I mind
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No, you know, Jim Curtin is a very smart, you know, soccer guy. He's also a very good clubhouse
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guy. You know, I mean, I was always, I think I told you guys this. One of the things I always
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like personally about Jim Curtin is before every press conference, he would always thank whoever
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the PR person was, whether it was Nico, he would always start off with thanks, Erica, thanks, Nico
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and then go into every single time. And I always respected that, but that's the Jim Curtin that
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we, you guys, and we, you know, you know, that's the kind of Jim Curtin personality
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I mean, would that be a knife in, would that be kind of a reverse Saquon Barkley? Yeah
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a little bit. You know, I mean, dude, I'm a Giants fan
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I got to, I got, I got to get what I can get. Yes, yes, yes. You know
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we can go into a whole litany on that, but we're not going to. Yes. But we got a good
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we got a good question coming in here about a different team who we haven't mentioned yet
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Chris C, what about Atlanta United? Didn't Jim have offers from there
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What do you guys think about, about how they performed in the playoffs and Jim fitting there
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Well, Well, I think like when we had Tenable on, I think Valentino
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the interim head coach is already going to have that job for the turnaround
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that he did with that team. So I don't – but listen, it's not out of the realm of possibilities
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I thought they were looking outside. What's that? I thought they were – no, I think they're moving on from him
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Okay, so listen, that team is defense heavy. So, again, that is a great landing spot
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Like all these other teams other than the union are on the upswing. So you can make some moves
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I mean, he could really, to me, turn around an NYCFC, Atlanta, a Vancouver
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I think he can be that guy that gets him over the hump. I mean, they are on an upswing
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Yes. Yes. I will give this one to Scott. Jim Curran will be the 80-2.0 and win somewhere else down the road
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But the problem is, are we all going to hate him then? You know, I mean, everyone hates the Chiefs now
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Depends on how many he goes and wins. And listen, he's got a dynasty quarterback
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It all makes sense for him. But listen, maybe Jim Curtin needs or someone from NYCFC
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or somebody around the league needs Jim Curtin in their life, you know, to get him from the home and make him to a dynasty player
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uh so Chris you know he goes the thoughts to uh what about Jim okay about hotlanta yeah
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so I mean the curtain went down there I think he would be inheriting a good squad Guzan's already
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coming back um at 40 years old by the way but he's you know 40 is a little different when you're a
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goalkeeper versus like say a defender or midfielder you know um so yeah I think they've got a good
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roster there they had a good run you know and there's a lot of enthusiasm for next season
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considering basically how they barely made the playoffs in the first place. Yeah, I agree
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They barely made the playoffs. So let me ask you, and by the way, like, first of all
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before I go any further, I want to say, Scott, you're absolutely right, though. Again, I cannot nod Jim Curtin enough
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I mean, he was a – before every presser, he'd shake everyone's hand, say hi
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you know, hello. He was definitely a human being, not someone who's got this ego problem
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whatever and i also that personally thanks jim curtain for listening to me of any one of that
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press conference uh again uh the the ongoing joke was i remember todd lewis actually came up to me
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and told me he's like dude you gotta be in jim curtain's ear after every interview and i'm pretty
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sure you guys don't know where i'm going with this the the whole andrew rick suggestion and when he
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told me that was when he told me that was that's a bold move but like two days later my man's up in
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in the lineup and I'm like, so like it's funny because Ty Newell Todd Lewis are all looking at me like where your crystal ball at my friend I was like dude I had no idea it was going to roll with it I just here That the beautiful part about Calgary Union 2 games You get to see these young kids play and you get to see what they can bring to the table
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and that was kind of my thing. So, yeah. But anyway, before we get on to our last segment, though
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we have the final four to the MLS Cup. Who is going to take this thing
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I'm sorry. Let's get this last question from J.D., our last comment
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Atlanta did ask for permission to interview Jim early this year, but I believe so
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Oh, I believe so. If they want to come back around and give him an extension, will he get it
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Oh, he's talking about the internal coach. I'm sorry, I read that. I'm coming back around to extend the internal head coach
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I think he'll get it. So, yeah, it's going to be the internal head coach or Jimmy
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But if they go outside around and go Jimmy, either way, Atlanta
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they really don't have the wrong answer. You have a guy who pretty much turns around in your franchise in the midseason
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where you can go outside and think you can get this guy who caramels over the hump
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PT told us that he probably wouldn't want to go out west coast or Europe
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until they're older. So there's all those things you don't really think about until you're in the situation
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Yeah. So again, I want to ask you, there are four teams left for the MLS Cup
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Four teams. I don't think anybody had maybe L.A. Galtzy written that we're going to make it this far
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So here we are. We have Orlando taking on the Red Bulls
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And we have, according to Angry Anthony, if he's listened to the program, you got MyC L. Sanders taking on L.A. Galtzy
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So, Scott, I got to go to you first. Where are you going in the east and where are you going to go in the west
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You know, it's funny. Statistically speaking, we'll start with the east. Orlando historically against the Red Bulls is 4-4-1 at home
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So they don't really have good home numbers. But then again, they didn't have good home numbers against Atlanta either
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going 2-6-2, I believe. So I think personally Atlanta – I'm sorry, Orlando will take this one
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You know, I think the home crowd is going to be part of this. I think the enthusiasm of basically getting to this point is going to be a big part of it
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They know that they have the chance to get to, you know, an MLS Cup final, I think, for the first time in history
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So there's a lot riding on this right now. And the home field advantage hasn't really favored anybody so far except Orlando
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You know, I mean, every single team. It's been, you know, Orlando's the fourth seed, and then you had everybody beyond that
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So in this case here, I think they're the only team in the East that's actually had home field success this time
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And I think that's going to carry for one more game. Now, my question in this case here is how will Emile Forsberg, you know, how is his performance going to be
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Lewis Morgan, you know, the guys on the Red Bull team, because if I remember correctly off the top of my head
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I think 10 of the teams, the Red Bulls, 13 wins, but did the math right, have come with Forsberg being on the pitch
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Whether he made an assist, whether he made a goal didn't matter. His very presence was a big factor in their wins
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So, you know, assuming that he's going to be on the pitch here, you have to keep an eye out for someone like him in this case
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But Torres for Orlando, I think this is going to be like a 2-1 final
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I feel like Orlando will be moving on. You know, I think it's going to be a good one
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um i personally i think when you have since you wanted my response on both of them i think l the
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galaxy take it out west my heart is with seattle it really is i'm sorry there's just something
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special about seattle sports um i've got a good passion heart you know heart yeah yeah
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that is a fantastic like you know fantastic sports now you know it's just a it's just
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criminal that they don't have an nba team yet still after almost 20 years all right
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That color green they got It's all those teams and that green
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I love the green there, I love the green and the Kraken That neon sort of awkward
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My heart is with Seattle, but I think Out West, I think it's going to end up being
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The Galaxy, especially being at home Because LA is just It's LA
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Alright, alright, I like it Steve, where are you going? First off
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This is what makes me so mad about the Union not making the playoffs
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because look at how they played out. And what Scott said, the Union were great on the road all season
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and they would have had to go and play on the road and look at the teams that were remaining
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And it's like, are you kidding me? They could have been that team that just had a watch party in Subaru Park
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all playoffs, and just felt it from there. So frustrating. I think I'm with Scott with Orlando
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I think what they got going on there is special. And the Orlando Pride just won their first NWSL title
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So who knows? Maybe you could see it in both leagues. So that's what I'm going for
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I'm going with the feel-good story. So I think Orlando wins 2-1
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And then in the West, I think I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Pat
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But I think the Galaxy, it's just too much. Six to two, they won against Vancouver
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It's just offensively, they're too much. So I'm going to say they win like three to one against Seattle
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Yeah. And for me, I'll start, Wes. It's been a cool story, bro, for the Seattle Sanders
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but to me, LA Galaxy and that kid's league is just playing out of his mind
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I think it's going to be a world series rematch, to be honest with you
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I think it's going to be New York and LA. I think New York has nothing
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There's no pressure. There's no, they're the most dangerous animal because they have nothing to lose
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Who thought they, Orlando has a little bit more of a pressure and believe it or not
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to go a little further on the Orlando, I don't know if you guys have been to the Orlando airport recently
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I was down there two years ago. They have their own sports bar. The Orlando SC team has their own little sports bar in the airport
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So, I mean, they take their pride down there really hard. But anyway, to answer my own question, yes, to me, the Red Bulls have nothing to lose
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which makes them the most dangerous animal. They have nothing to lose. They are riding high right now
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Imola Fursberg is making a huge, huge difference for that team because now that team is healthy, and Orlando, better look out
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Listen, Orlando's been an up-and-down team. I hope they don't get cold because the worst thing for Orlando, right
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you're taking now, you're going to be at home, which even makes it that much harder for you to defend
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because you're bringing a warm climate sport, and these guys from New York, I think, are going to come down there
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and I think they're going to give this Orlando team some problems. So yes, that's going to be my take
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LA, New York We got from everyone else You guys said Orlando and LA
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And that's where we're going to go I'm sorry, JD says LA and Orlando
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So that's pretty much what you guys are saying LA and Orlando I got the LA and New York
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