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Hey guys, what is up? Welcome to Queens of the Ring Sarah will be in here momentarily
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She's dealing with some technical issues, so I'm the honorary queen right now
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So we're here with my co-host, Denise. How you doing? I'm doing good
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And yourself? It's good when you're not calling me for a change, so it must be nice
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Don't wait. Don't worry. It'll come. It'll come. Anyway. Would you poo
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Oh, my. Because Orange Cassidy is his favorite. He just won't admit it
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you're starting off like that told you just to give you guys a heads up i cannot stand her
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in jasmine so she like love her and sarah keep on in but uh yes guys we're here with two
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lovely guests from off the top ropes podcast uh bianca and uh binky how you guys doing how you
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you're doing? We're doing great. Definitely doing good. That is awesome. I'm glad you guys could join
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us. I'm really glad. Thank you for having us here. Of course, of course. In a couple weeks
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Sarah and Denise is going to hop on your guys' show, so I'm looking forward to that as well
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There's going to be a lot of girls on that podcast. That's going to be crazy
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Hey, Denise, I'm going to start with you. What do you think about the John Cena and Randy Orton
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promo I mean I liked it it was just like it literally it brought us back to Randy Orton
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and John Cena from years ago we haven't seen them against each other in like how long and we're
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finally getting it again and they brought up the past they brought up like not necessarily per se
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personal but I mean it got deep to where Randy's like don't like we've known each other for how long
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like don't bullshit me with this and everything I mean I loved it it brought us back to that
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and I'm excited for it that is awesome that is awesome uh Binky what about you um I I actually
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enjoyed it um well I'll take that back I actually enjoyed their segment okay um but as for the promo
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um let's see I saw a little bit of it um to me it's like okay like as for John Cena Randy Orton
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they've been feuding for years you know we could take it back you know almost 20 years ago
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you know it started off you know and ever since then and you know it just it comes back and
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that John Cena has won his 17th world title. He's going to defend it against Randy Orton at Backlash
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Well, the card to me, I mean, it's okay. But it's two legends
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Two legends, duping it out. It's a must-see. Hey, it looks like we got another one from off the top rope
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So, Jarlene, how you doing? How you doing? Good. Doing good. Doing good
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So, really quick, I was just telling Binky and Bianca on how much I love you guys' show
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Like, your show is just really great. I catch it when I can
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I just love it. And who's your favorite wrestler, man? John Moxley, baby
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Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. That sounds different. That is different. Mostly I hear like a Roland Rains, AJ, Bianca
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I don't watch AEW, so it's just like Jon Moxley is something different for me
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Yeah. So, Charlene, oh, wait, Bianca, do you want to finish your thought
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Yeah, I can go with my thought about the promo. So I want to break it down into, like, bits and pieces of how I think about it
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Go for it. So for the John Cena or any other section, I thought it was pretty cool because, like, Char said, like, they brought stuff from the past back in the day
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Like, they've been knowing each other for 25 years, as Randy says
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And then, what's your name again? I forgot her name. Denise? Denise, yes
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she mentioned about how it didn't get too personal but it was a little bit it was a one piece up there
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that was a little bit personal where randy orton said to john cena that he doesn't have any kids
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so why don't you just you know grow up and make some kids and so john cena kind of throw back some
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shots and said you know i've been taking care of every single body of kids like the wwe university
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kids so I felt like that kind of took personal and that kind of like I felt
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like they were just going for like word for word for back and forth so it was
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pretty cool seeing that and for John Cena big and bad and try to you know
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and attack Randy Orton it just like brought back how 25 years ago how they
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used to like you know go back and forth and so to me i feel like john cena he's bringing back
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he's bringing back his thuganomics persona a little bit so i just kind of feel like that's
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happening and randy orton just threw out the rko i just i was excited about that part
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I love when he does RKM. Yeah. But to conclude that, I feel like it was a good promo
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I can't wait for this to actually duke it out in backlash
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And for this to be John Cena's 17 championships, and then if he does win, this will be his
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15. He only has 14 championships. I'm excited about it. So, that's my take on that
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All right. And, Charlene, what about your take on this promo? I love it
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Like, I've been telling my girls every single week we're discussing this whole Cena thing since he's turned heel
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Like, how, like, I mean, where is he lying to these people
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Like, he's been telling the truth. Like, since the first promo he comes to heel
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he's been, like, spot on with his promo. But I like this promo. I mean we have two veterans between Randy and Cena and like my girl you saying you know Randy going for his 15th against Cena 17th I mean I don see Cena losing in the backlash because I mean he didn want it And he wants to put down probably a young up So I don
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see it being Orton. So, I think he'll retain. But the dynamics that
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they both have, the history they have being back almost 20 years
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ago, I mean, I'm excited to see their chemistry and everything. As long as we don't get any
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interference with Travis Scott or anything in that match, then I'll be all good
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so i'm just gonna add this one thought to it like i think i was telling denise earlier and
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sarah whenever she pops in i feel like it's too soon for him to get rid of the title right away
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at backlash i know it's at randy orange hometown in st louis which is great because cena is gonna
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get the most boos ever since the ECW One Night Stand. The ECW One Night Stand
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lives in infamy. So, once you get this crowd, that might top it. That might top it
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So, I'm just like, it's too soon. And I want him to face CM Punk
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for the title. Maybe even Roman Reigns down the line. Even AJ Styles
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sometimes down the line. He's long overdue. Right? right? That's great to hear, right, Denise, that it's long overdue
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It's very long overdue. It's seven years long overdue. It's been seven years since he's held the title, like a world title
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Yeah. I know you won it back in 2016. I held it, but I know. Beat up John Cena
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just to let you know John Cena's my favorite of all time
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so whenever she says that like that hurts so it's just like
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you're okay am I though? I used to be a big John Cena fan
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when I first started watching wrestling because he's from my home state
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and that's too big so I used to be a big fan of his
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and then I just kind of grew up. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happens with a lot of people
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because he was doing the same exact stick time and time and time
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again and then once he turned heel people were saying it's too late
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for his heel turn. Like we should have got this like a while back
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What was that? Like 2012? We should have got that? Yeah. Yeah, he
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should have. It's just crazy because it's like you know like okay wait till 2025 to turn like well he should just turned
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a while back you know and he um he wanted to yeah but you know according to creative
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you know they just were like nah we're gonna keep him face
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all the way up to 2025, you know. It was never the right time for creative
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Creative always wanted to hold them back and be like, no, not the right time, not the right time
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We'll do it this time. We'll do this time. No, you're the top baby. Yeah. Yeah
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And according to The Rock on Pat McAfee, they wanted Cody to turn heel actually first
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And then once Super A's turned that down, they went to Cena
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they asked Cena he went yes and that's how it went down
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so I'm like it worked but now with The Rock being there and not being there
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it's like why is he even there that was a waste that was a total waste
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oh it was because supposedly he was going to film like a movie or something
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and the last time he went to do a big spot somewhere he ended up
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getting seriously hurt so they don't want him to get hurt in this filming
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So, I mean, yeah, get up over there. Why even tease it as an elimination chamber that you and Travis Scott
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and all these people are going to have a big say in this whole storyline of selling your film
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He's not going to be around writing this film. Yeah. Yeah. So next up, actually, on SmackDown, we had a big return
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like a really, really big return, and that was Aleister Black. Aleister Black made his return finally
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it's crazy so Charlene I'm going to start with you how did you feel about Aleister Black's
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return? I like it I mean you're starting him off red hot the music is killer
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that music is such a killer I love it shooting with the Miz right off the bat
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is a good way to go that's a way to get Miz slowly maturely away from
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Carmelo Hayes for quite a while that's a good thing working with a veteran like this Miz
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willing to put all these people over in the end of the time. I think that's a perfect
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fit for him. Except for a little bit I've seen videos going online from where the kick was
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I don't know who told that was on if it was on Alistair or if it was on the mid
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for not taking the kickball. Bianca, right? Yes. What did you think about the return
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I was upset when he left from WWE. For him to be making his return back was phenomenal
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Because he has the same music. He has the same entrance the way he comes out of his entrance
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And it was just like nothing changed. and i just felt like that was like the best entrance the best pop of his uh debut coming back
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because he wanted to be original he wanted to be himself and that's who he is and i just like about
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him like him about about him like yeah yeah yeah uh binky how about you um i i actually loved it
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because like the way he like just his interaction with the miz and hit him with the black mask
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and that's one of my favorite finishers oh yeah the black mask like it's just it's just as sick
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as the KOD. Well, you know, I'm biased, so I have to throw that in here
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But yeah, as for Aleister Black, it's just his return and, you know
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it's just like he's back at home. You know, he was on
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AEW, but now that he has returned to WWE, you know, and just to
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you know just being that ring with Miz um with his first time being back it's it's it's really
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great you know it's like you know a vet like the Miz just boom you know just selling that move
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yeah it was just awesome um Alistair his return was was really great and and it's great that you
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know he able to you know work with his wife yeah yeah she a champion Yeah so I wouldn be surprised
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if he becomes champion as well. So, yeah. Great return for Alistair
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All right, so really quick. Sarah is actually here. She's actually on her phone. So, Sarah, how are you
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Hello. Hello. So sorry, guys. Hi. Yeah, my computer randomly decided it wanted to do updates and it's been doing updates for 45 minutes now
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So that's that's fun. It's all good. So we're actually just talking about Alex or Black's return
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oh my god I am so freaking glad they did not give him
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a Death Rebel theme oh my god saying how like he came
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back original original like theme his entrance everything like down to the T
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I was like thank god they did not do him dirty with his comeback
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I was excited for it absolutely yeah So Brooklyn Joker comes in and goes, now that Aleister Black is working with Triple H
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I could see him as world champ. Oh, I could too. Yeah, definitely
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For me, with the world champ, it's just like there's so many possibilities you can go
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Right? And Aleister Black automatically making that statement with the black mask, you can put him right in that conversation
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Oh, yeah. He's got everything. He's got everything. And here's another thing, too
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It's just like when Alexa Black debuted in AEW, he was with Cody Rose
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Cody Rose was wearing a white suit. And now when he's here, the Miz was wearing a white suit
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Oh, God, I forgot about that. Interesting. And I cannot stand AEW
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I'm not an AEW guy. So I'm just like, wow. Did they do that on purpose
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Or was that an accident? No, it's like Wednesday the Titans. Yeah
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So really quick, Denise, do you have anything to say about this before I go to the Cena and Oinno promo for Sarah
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No, I mean, I'm wrong with all the ladies. Like, I'm excited for him to be back
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It's a fresh but familiar face that's going to give us, like, more entertainment
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It's different storylines. I'm excited for it. I can't wait. All right
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Sounds good. Sarah, so what do you think? I know Rainy Woman's your favorite, so I got it
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What do you think about the promo? I was just so tickled, Hank, that he gave him another Archaea
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That was the best part. That was the best part. Sorry, John, not really
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Just like I said, with the one with the promo they had last week on Raw
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it was just so funny the way he like just randomly started rising up behind him
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and I'm like, oh my God, I freaked out. I yelled so loud
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I woke my cat up, scared my cat. I was freaking out
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I'm like, we are getting it. Oh my God, we are getting it. But on the other hand, I hope they're not just doing this for backlash
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where we're going to have a two-week feud with these two and that's it
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I think it is, maybe. I mean, I just don't see him troning him
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He wants to probably put that title on a younger talent, possibly. And I don't know how putting the title on Randy
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I know he's your favorite, but I don't know how putting the title on Randy elevates anybody in that title
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You're right. No, no, you're right. You're right. I think, honestly, I think if they're going to, like, the next younger talent they put that title on, honestly, I, well, he's not on SmackDown
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I could see it being Brown Breaker. That would be an interesting one. Yeah
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Yeah. that'll be really interesting so Brooklyn Joker comes in again and goes this is going to be
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John Cena vs Randy Orton 22 matches against each other that's crazy yeah
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I'm not surprised the amount of matches that they had against each other yeah
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not surprised look at their feud they had back in the day
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when Randy was crazy 2009 evil Randy Orton. He was evil. And Randy Orton, I think it came out
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Randy Orton debuted six months before Cena did back in the day
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If I remember correctly, I heard that their match at Backlash coming up in a couple weeks, that is going
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to be 20 I think it's 25 years to the day that that they had their first match together
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or something it was something like that but it's through the day that they had their first match
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I'm like that is it that's incredible yeah it really is yeah but yeah I thought the promo last
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night like I said I thought it was or the promo the heel or sorry the Cena Randy promo I thought
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it was good. They both said what they needed to say. I think it's hilarious
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that Randy Orton told John Cena he needs to have kids. I did not think that that's
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where they were going with that, but okay. You know what I think they should add
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They should bring John Cena's father into this. Oh, I would love that
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Because Randy already kicked him in the head. Yeah. Imagine that. That would be such a, like, a heel move
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You've got to do that. Oh, yeah, I can see that. That would turn Randy feeling his hometown with either being the heel
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It would mess up the whole mojo. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's a good point
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Another one of our members from the Hardcore Sports Network, Blaze Radio, is in the chat
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He goes, hello, Queens and that Miss guy. Naughty Blaze reporting for DJ
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Hello. Hello. Naughty Blaze. It's going to be a long stream. It's going to be a long one
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Yeah. So, actually, let's go with – let's start off with Binky on this one
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What do you think about the whole Seth Rollins, brawn breakers historian shaming zane um it it you know wow like it not it not a surprise but like well it is a surprise in a way because I thought that because of how Sammy has been because I know Sammy he kind of like his behavior has been changing a little bit
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And he's been, you know, just heading towards the hillside. And with Sammy, I thought that he was going to join the new faction
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that Seth has with Braun and Paul Heyman. But it turned out that, you know, Sammy's like, no
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And then they just destroy him. It was a surprise. But eventually, Sammy is going to turn
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And he's probably going to join them. Either that or he's probably going to stand alone as a hero
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Okay. So that's where I see it. nice I did not even think of that I didn't even think of that I was just thinking of like other
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people who could join that faction and Sammy's name was not even on my list he was not even
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coming to start things so yeah all right um Bianca right yes all right go for it I was waiting for
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you to come to when I was watching SmackDown last night and when Sami and Jey Uso
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was having that talk backstage all I kept saying in my head was
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Sami's going to attack Jey. He's going to attack Jey. And then like
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Binky said, he's going to join and run breaker in the faction
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And I felt like Sami Zayn is going to go after James for the title
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And that's what I believe. Wow. And I'm afraid of Braun Breaker. I ain't going to lie
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Because, like, he's a psychopath. I don't know. He'd be running around in the ring
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going in circles to spear somebody. Oh, no. I do not want to be that person who got speared
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Yeah. And Brooklyn Joker comes in. Watch. Becky Lynch joins Seth Rollins' group
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I would love that. I've been hearing that. hot from you. I've had my own theory on that whole thing, too
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We talked about this, like, on our show last week, too. You know, I'll tie that in with
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this story, but the whole thing with that, I'm with my girls. Like, you can see why we're
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so, like, full-team in it, because I've been on the Sammy turning bandwagon, too, because
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you look back to a few weeks ago when he's hovering behind Jay during the celebration and everything, I thought
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oh, man, he's going to turn on him, too, and everything. and i thought he was gonna possibly align with the new group too but it looks like he's not right now
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and you know it's weird but the whole becky part of that thing too is like my theory i i saw a lot
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of the series and i pitched this to my girls and they're like that's an interesting theory
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i was like what happened when paul hayman decided to create his own female version of this group you
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know have becky be the leader with roxanne and possibly julia because he's coming into the main
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roster acting all heels on the main roster on Raw with Becky
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I mean, maybe he has his own female version of this group. Yeah. Maybe
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Yeah. I would not mind that. And thank you, Blaze, for being such a great mod and putting the link right here
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So, guys, please go subscribe to Off the Top Row Podcast. There's a link
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We're going to be doing a lot of work or content together in the future
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We're actually working on a evolution watch along with you ladies. So that would be fun
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Yeah. That is what me and Blackheart were talking about. So we got a couple of stuff in the works
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So that should be fun. That should be fun. And then Blake goes, you see, I'm much cooler than Mitch, but he tries
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I'll admit it. That was a good help. That was a good help. I'll admit that
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Denise, what do you think about this? Because you told me you had a lot to say about this
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I mean, I did. But hearing their thoughts on this, I'm intrigued
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And I can see all of that happening. I can see it
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I mean, like, I mean, Sammy is due for a heel turn. He's been a heel turn for a while
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So he's due for it. So I could definitely see him finally, like, thinking about it and thinking about it and thinking about it
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It's haunting him. And then he, like, he joins them to be that fourth person
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and I mean I could also like Bianca said he goes after Jay for the title because I mean
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yeah there I mean I can't even say that there's no way he could take it off of Gunther because
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he took the IC title off of Gunther but it just seems like a more realistic opponent for Sammy
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just simply because they do have like the history they know each other well so that's gonna serve
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for a very good match um like they they work well in the ring together so I mean I could definitely
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see that happening and um as for Charlene with the lady or was that you Mitch with the ladies like
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okay was you um Paul coming up with a lady faction and everything like I'm down for Julia uh Roxanne
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dude I love Roxanne I'm trying to think of like Becky even Becky joining
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like not have her be part of both of them that would be fun
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I mean like I'm for that I'm for it yeah so uh
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Sarah you would like to answer this and I'll bring up please just comment after sure sure um Seth Rollins broad breakers destroying Sami Zayn yeah
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I felt really bad for Sami but I kind of figured that that was the route he that that's what was
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going to happen because when you think about it if Sami Zayn goes to Smackdown you know he's
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gonna end up getting in drew mcintyre's way because mcintyre has been gunning for the what
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is that the undisputed championship and same zine and and um drew mcintyre have had issues in the
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past and they've had a bunch of matches and everything like that so you know it doesn't
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really make sense for him to go to smackdown at least in my mind it didn't it just didn't make
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sense. And plus, ever since Sammy's been a baby face, he always, you know, he never runs away from
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a fight. No. He does not back down. He does not run away from a fight. He fights for what he
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you know, what he believes in, which I completely understand. Okay. But it was like you when you brought up the way when he was congratulating Jey Uso, that was my first thought was that I'm like, oh, shit, here we go
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We're going to see the heel turn. Here we go. He just had that look on his face
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I'm like, he's going to help Jey with that belt. Yep. Yeah
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I thought he was going to whack him with that belt. I'm like, oh, God, here we go
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here we go sammy heel turns i've been kind of expecting it for a little bit now because it seems
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to be too whenever kevin owens turns heel sammy turns heel yeah yeah they're very aligned that way
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yeah they they're best friends in real life yeah definitely um but i kind of thought
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But like I said, as soon as Paul Heyman walked out of that room that Sammy was in and you saw the look on Brown Breaker's face, I'm like, yeah, they're basically going to feed Sammy to Brown Breaker
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There's no way he's going to back down. He is not taking this deal. No
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He is going to get annihilated by Brown Breaker. I mean, that guy can run, what did they say, he can run the ropes at 25 miles an hour
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That's crazy. That is absolutely insane. That is absolutely insane. So I'm like, yeah, there's no
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I said he is going to we're going to be seeing Sammy Z's funeral means like we saw Carlito funeral means a few weeks ago
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Yeah. Oh, my God. It still bothers me that Carlito is still here
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It still bothers me. Oh, don't get me started with Carlito. So Carlito, to me, he's just, to me, he's not believable as a heel
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No. Yep. He's like the goofy heel. Yes. I agree. Hey, Courtney
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What is up? How you doing, Courtney? Hi, Courtney. Great to meet you
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Great to meet you. So for me here, how do I feel about it
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Rob Raker is the next Batista. I'm just going to say that right now. if they decide to go the evolution route
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do I see them going that way? Perhaps, but he's just got to make Braun
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that unstoppable force, and that's what they did. How many spears on Sami Zayn
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Five? Like a good three or four or five, yeah. Yeah. Something like that
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Oh, my God. It's crazy. I feel like Braun Breaker doesn't stop his spears
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until he's satisfied. Yeah. When he is satisfied and when you see
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his skin color turn pink and reddish, he's satisfied. He's satisfied because I can't deal
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with Rothfeder. Oh, man, he is dangerous. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, and, you know
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and it's crazy because with this faction and in the future, if they split up
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I can see Braun turning on Seth. Oh, that's definitely that's what it is
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And Seth will go back to being a baby face. 100%. I can see that happening
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It's like evolution, you know, evolution just, okay. I have to kick Seth out
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The first thing they did with, I believe, Bautista. They'll probably do the same thing with Seth
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Just... No! Thumbs down to Seth. Great. History repeats itself. Yeah
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Yeah, and WWE always likes to do that. So, really quick, let me go back to Blaze's comment real quick
33:51
Who do you guys want to be the third man if you could book it? And do you like the apparent name, Trifecta of Terror
33:59
That's a good question. That's not a troll question. I'm happy. I'm happy it's not a question
34:04
so yeah whoever wants to take it for the name I don't know if I like
34:14
it as much because you keep thinking about the word they keep using a lot
34:18
they keep using the word vision for the future like vision of the
34:22
for the future that's their vision so you would think maybe like a name like
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you know vision of terror you know vision of future future like you know
34:32
future vision or something like along those lines of that i don't know like i said who do i want to
34:38
look for i mean if we can't have sam here or something i mean i don't know we're discussing
34:45
this on our show too like who would we add as a third member i mean i was like if you could easily
34:50
break this guy away from the miz right now i said a perfect name to fit would be a guy like
34:56
Carmelo Hayes. We even discussed like a Turk Williams who's been on the NXT, calling
35:02
him up and letting him align with his staff and learning from the best. So any way
35:05
to get any of those two away from the Miz and everything, that would be perfect
35:11
I would love that. Carmelo Hayes. Again, I was not even thinking about Carmelo from IPEX
35:18
Whoever has another name, you guys can throw it into the hat
35:22
or throw it in the pot. Montez Ford, Courtney says. Gotta get off the tag title first
35:29
Yeah. Don't even get me started on that tag. Oh, yeah. That should have been at Mania
35:34
That should have been at Mania. I'm full off the loop with this
35:39
I have a name that I'm going to say that I feel like that might be another person who's going to join them
35:48
And this person, a tag shame, so I say because he wants the title as well
35:54
and I'm going to just say Logan Paul. Absolutely not. I'm going to say Logan Paul
36:01
No, because listen, hear me out. The reason why I say that is because remember when I said to you
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I kept feeling like Sami Zayn is going to attack Jey Uso for the title
36:12
Also, you know, Logan Paul wants the title as well. So when Logan Paul had that promo, he mentioned Seth Rollins' name as well
36:23
in it. I hope not. So I have, if you can Instagram
36:26
each other, I know you, you like to disagree with me. But I just, I'm just, I
36:33
like to go off the loop of things and I like to be the oddball when it comes to like
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my choices. So I just think that may not be lowball or
36:44
something like that. So yeah. All right. Bianca, you got a name
36:51
Oh, Pinky, I'm sorry. So sorry. So the trifecta, right? Yeah, trifecta
37:01
Is that the faction? Yeah. Let's see. So it could be like any name
37:11
Any name. Any name, yeah. Let's see. I would, let's see, what
37:21
I would say let see I have to think I got a name I keeping it I would say the Holy Three I don know
37:36
Okay. All right. And if you had to add someone to the faction, who would it be
37:45
I would add, so besides Seth and Bron, right? Yeah. Let's see
37:53
I would add I would add Drew McIntyre but he's on Smackdown Okay Alright
38:03
Denise how about you Hilarious because I was literally Just about to say Drew
38:09
You were about to say Drew I'm walking off You were about to say Drew
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Sarah do you believe this Because I don't believe this Not you Siri
38:20
Sarah do you believe this I don't believe that He's got to build
38:25
He's got to stack. He's got everything to complete that faction. And being delusional as well
38:33
Thank you. But it keeps losing. Yeah. I mean, he just won at Mania, though
38:42
Yeah. He's going to lose that fatal four-way. That's the only win he had for, like, almost a month and some change
38:48
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm shocked right now literally shocked literally just sitting there thinking
38:58
thinking thinking I was like who would be and I was like I'm going to say Drew yeah
39:03
I'm clipping this because I don't believe it still I still don't believe it
39:12
Sarah what about Sarah what about you if you had to pick someone
39:18
with the faction so if i had to pick somebody i was thinking along the lines i know somebody already said carmelo
39:26
hayes um but but my initial thought was since this is supposed to be you know the few they're
39:35
supposed to be quote unquote the future of the industry the future of pro wrestling i could see
39:41
them putting somebody from nxt like calling up somebody from nxt and putting them in this faction
39:48
to be mentored by the other three because, you know, you got Paul Heyman
39:54
who is a freaking genius. You got Seth Rollins, who is incredible
40:00
and Seth Rollins does not have bad matches, period. He made a match with Omos seem good
40:06
I'm sorry, but that was, you know, that was a miracle. And then you got Brown Breaker, a guy who is newer to the main roster
40:15
but he's been very, very, very successful in his own right. So I could completely see it being them calling somebody up from NXT and putting them in with it
40:26
Because when I think of, I don't know why, but when I see those three together, I think of what Judgment Day was
40:35
Like when Rhea Ripley came on board, they called her up from NXT and she was part of Judgment Day
40:41
So that's why I was thinking it would be somebody from NXT
40:44
I really like the idea of Trick Williams because he's been a heel. before
40:50
You know, I could totally see it being a heel trick Williams
40:53
or maybe another heel from that they call up from NXT. Okay
41:02
Oh, I think I have a name. Hit me. I just want to
41:10
just comment what Sarah has been saying. so that name that you just
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mentioned from NXT not just Tripp what about Ethan Page that was mine I was waiting
41:26
for that I could totally see that because I love him you know what no
41:42
I'm good with That was my pick. That was going to be my pick
41:50
Because I have another name and a lot of people hate it
41:54
I don't like this name personally, but I'm going to throw it in there. Austin Theory
41:59
Once he breaks up with the... See? A lot of people like it
42:06
I mean, the way he's been booked, I don't know. You don't have to book him
42:11
You'd have to put him a hell of a lot stronger to put him in that fashion
42:17
Those three of them right now, they look super strong. You put Jerry in there, who's relatively done nothing
42:22
with Gracie Waller, and they haven't really been on Tinoff? I mean, you have to
42:26
seriously rebuild him from the ground. He's been part of the longest
42:32
breakup storyline, I think, in wrestling history. They changed the breakup between Waller and Jerry
42:39
for so long now I've never told the dude it's like this crap is ridiculous it's like
42:45
break them up already right they're not doing anything really I think it's because
42:55
it's because the way that like compared to Grayson Austin Theory he hasn't been booked very well no
43:06
just split them up just maybe have Grayson turn on Theory and just
43:13
let them go their separate ways. Do it at Barbershop. Hit them with the Rockers
43:20
Give them that HBK Marnie Jannetty. Come on now. Just pull that
43:25
and just have Grayson as HBK and Theory as Marnie Jannetty. Just Barbershop
43:33
please. I'm just surprised that's not yet. I'm surprised Grayson hasn't turned on him yet. That's what's funny
43:41
with you mentioning it. Right? Yeah. They kept teasing it for so long that they were gonna
43:47
break up when he would put himself first above theory all the time, and
43:51
then they never went ahead and pulled their trigger. They'd go, oh, I'll slash into tag titles. Oh, that's
43:55
the new one. Yeah. Yeah, that was just one name. And then you guys already mentioned
44:03
Becky Lynch. That was gonna be mine as well. It makes sense. that's the one that makes the most
44:09
sense out of any name speaking of Becky Lynch wait a second
44:15
I just thought of something else go for it I promise this won't take long
44:21
you know how they've been teasing Finn Balor getting kicked out of Judgment Day
44:27
what if it's him Judgment Day I think he'd be turning baby face
44:34
you think so? He could be dumb. Be like a heel turner
44:43
on a heel. He could turn heels in. Yeah, I could. That's what I was thinking because he's been
44:49
getting, you know, what is that nickname? People keep calling him Pin Balor
44:55
Which is really mean But you know I could see him wanting to yeah And I understand him being a baby face when he leaves you know
45:08
when he gets kicked out of Judgment Day. I was just thinking, like, kind of spitballing there
45:13
Like, hey, what if maybe it's him? I would agree with you on that
45:18
I didn't have a hunch that he was going to be. I have a hunch he's getting kicked out soon
45:22
but like the way they've been treating him in that group was not telling him
45:25
about any of these masses, not telling him about people coming back or people coming in
45:31
like starting to, you know, like look at Liv and them. Finn was in that matter
45:37
Didn't even bother, wait until Finn was out of the room and then Liv, I'm going to go tell here to put Dominic in the mess
45:44
Because you've been doing all this work and everything. I mean, the writing's on the wall
45:49
So really quick Denise and I on our last show The Phenomenal Breakdown
45:56
The whole podcast revolving around AJ Styles We were talking about his matchup
46:01
Potentially with Dom Right? Potentially with that match I don't want to see that
46:06
And then we were just bringing up Maybe Finn could help AJ
46:11
In that match And then that's where it could start Breaking And that's where the face turn actually happens
46:19
I agree with you because the only reason why I think that would be a good fit to happen
46:25
is because look how the way Finn Balor kept looking at Dom when Dom was flashing the title
46:30
and it's like Finn really wants that title and it's like AJ Styles wants the title
46:36
so it would be a good connect for AJ Styles and Finn Balor to go at it
46:41
for the title if AJ wins the title from Dom I know they have no connection
46:47
but think about it Finn helping AJ. I mean, that Bullet Club connection would have to be
46:52
really strong in it. Help a fellow Bullet Club brother. Yeah. The one thing
47:00
I have to say about Finn Balor leaving Judgment Day is I really hope that they don't drag
47:06
it out and drag out a feud with him and Dom or him and
47:12
JD McDonough the way they drug out Damian Priest and Finn Balor matches
47:18
I mean, we were getting that weekly, and it was so boring
47:24
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Week after week after week after week. Yeah. So we were talking about Becky Lynch a bit earlier
47:34
For Laura Valkyria for the IC title, how do you guys feel about that
47:39
Denise, let's start off with you because I'm not for it. Honestly, I'm not
47:45
For the match at all? Yeah. How do you feel about it
47:48
And you and I talked about it briefly. Yeah, I think we saw it coming just because of what happened
47:54
not only the Monday after WrestleMania as well as last night. I think with that, it was bound to happen eventually
48:10
Yeah, as you guys should see, I get trolled by the chat. And these two, 24-7
48:15
Hi, Chad. um but no yeah and well I mean I'm starting to like Lyra she's definitely growing on me
48:26
but while I love Becky I can see Lyra beating her to retain and that could help Becky to spiral
48:38
more out of control, which would bring her, help her towards what we were talking about earlier
48:46
with Paul Heyman and everything. Yeah. I mean, I think we all saw it coming, like I said
48:52
just because of what had happened after WrestleMania. But just have it done, be out of the way
49:00
and then both can go on their own, like, in their own direction
49:05
Yeah. Yeah. Charlene how do you feel about this talking about this
49:12
on our show what happened at WrestleMania with you know putting the
49:18
titles on Becky and Lyra only for a single one day reign completely unnecessary when you
49:25
could have just easily done this field turn at the pay-per-view and
49:28
kept the titles on you know Raquel and Liv and the death of their line there
49:34
and then have the raw after mania you couldn't have her interact
49:38
you know the match it could be a good match I just don't know
49:45
if you do that match I have a weird feeling that you don't want to kill Becky's momentum
49:50
unless they heal right off the bat I don't know if they would
49:54
hesitate to pull the trigger and put the title on you know
49:58
I mean I think it would be a mistake because you want to start building your talent up
50:02
and everything and Lyra you know she's been really good in the ring
50:07
and she's been carrying that women's division but I don't think I would be surprised
50:10
if they pulled up Trigger and decided to put the title on her just for the sake of it
50:16
Bianca how about you I don't like it I'm going to be honest with you
50:22
I don't like it because I feel as when Becky won the title
50:28
at Wrestlemania I felt like that was too soon that was too soon
50:33
because it makes me feel like it's a Charlotte 2.0 because Charlotte's been in and out, you know
50:42
winning titles after title. Yeah. Now it's like Becky's been out for a while
50:48
She's coming back from WrestleMania and didn't win the title. It's deja vu, I feel like
50:54
And I just feel like Lyra should have helped. I feel like they should have given more time for Lyra
51:01
Yeah, I agree. and I scored and like I don't think the tag team
51:08
titles with them two was the best fit for them because not only Lyra being
51:14
the champion for one title it's like why have another title and be like
51:20
that was my problem with it too when I seen her holding the
51:26
IC title and the tag I'm like why? why does she use two titles
51:31
It feels like you're making it seem like how Becky was two belts
51:38
And then it's like, I don't know. I just don't like this combo at all
51:50
I'm right there with you. Binky, how about you? I agree. I agree with you, Mitch and Bianca
51:59
I honestly the build up is trash because at WrestleMania what was
52:09
the point of Becky replacing Bailey I was about to say that
52:16
she got screwed and then she apparently got attacked and it wasn't
52:21
surprised that Becky was behind it and she revealed that last night Yeah the buildup is trash And it like and what was the point of becky and lyra
52:35
winning the tag titles at rest yeah like live and raquel they should have retained yeah and and have okay have becky
52:52
and Lyra just, okay, they lost, and then next minute, Becky turns on Lyra
52:58
They should have done that on Sunday. They should have just done that last night
53:05
Yeah. Sarah, how about you? I agree the build has just been trash
53:17
I totally agree. Like, I think it's completely pointless for Becky and Lyra to win the tag titles on Sunday just to lose them on Monday
53:27
That was absolutely stupid. That was so stupid. They could have easily done that heel turn at WrestleMania
53:36
Easily. That's what I meant. Yeah. Yep. They could have easily done that at WrestleMania
53:41
One thing that I thought was kind of interesting last night during the Lyra-Becky promo was that
53:49
Becky didn't say, oh, I'll have a match with you if you put up the Intercontinental Championship
53:55
Lyra offered it willingly. It's like, why would you do that? Yeah
54:01
Maybe the baby was so stupid doing that kind of stuff. Yeah
54:05
I just am like, that doesn't make a bit of sense at all
54:09
and it seemed like she was, I mean, look back at that, you know
54:17
watch that promo back. Like she was getting that, the what chant
54:21
which the crowds do that when they're not liking what, you know
54:25
they're giving somebody a hard time. And I don't think Lyra is a bad promo at all
54:30
but she was getting the what treatment last night from the crowd, which was very weird to hear and see
54:37
um but her promo got stronger as it went along yeah um but it just it seemed like she was just
54:46
like kind of dragging it out of Becky Lynch and then of course Becky Lynch through that
54:51
almighty temper tantrum um which I just thought she looked it just looked so it just looked so
54:58
ridiculous and funny uh to me it looked ridiculous and funny but I mean I guess I just I'm like
55:06
Lyra, what has she done with the Intercontinental Championship? Maybe they should put it on Becky so that she can elevate it
55:14
and then they can have one of the people that call up from NXT perhaps get it
55:19
Or, I don't know, put it on Dakota Kai. They should have done it on the first place
55:25
That's what I said. That's who I think should have won it. She just came out and said she's not burnt or anything
55:32
and she just wants to wrestle again, but she's not being used on to me. crazy that that that is insane that's insane if she is not hurt she should absolutely be maybe not
55:48
even maybe not in matches necessarily but at the very least you should be accompanying eo yeah
55:54
yeah and yeah i just i thought it was i just thought it was kind of stupid
56:00
yeah and you know and I want to point this out as for Lyra instead of just being in a tag
56:08
team with Becky she should have defended her title at Wrestlemania and I don't know why they didn't put her
56:17
defending the title against someone but they didn't do the same thing with Chelsea Green either exactly
56:25
I had a special thing with her defending, doing some special thing at WrestleMania with her
56:29
and pulled the trigger off that at the last minute, too. So if they weren't going to put the trigger on a women's midcard title for Chelsea
56:36
I don't see why they would let Lyra defend her to the title midcard either
56:41
You only have two or three big women's matches you don't need. Bye. For me, this is how I see it, right
56:49
Like, I think of Bayley and all the hard work she has put in
56:53
Oh, yeah. I just think about her and what are the odds
56:58
that they're going to make this a triple threat match at Backlash
57:02
I can still see that happening but then you have Becky win
57:05
and then you have Becky and Bailey go on into the next
57:10
PLE pretty much evolution or something or exciting things main event who knows but that's where I'd see it
57:16
going because they owe Bailey a receipt they owe Bailey a huge
57:21
they definitely do Yeah, two of the four horsewomen. Yeah. It sucks
57:30
It really sucks. You know what does not suck, though? I just thought of this
57:34
How about that interaction with John Cena and R-Truth? How about that interaction
57:40
Oh, my God. It's never a dull moment when it comes to R-Truth
57:44
R-Truth, right? He is a common little act. It is. It's never a dull moment
57:51
truth, he is a national treasure that should be protected at all costs
57:56
He really is. I love our truth. They need to boost him up and give him some type of title or something
58:03
Yeah. It's not a tag title either. It's like a joke. It's not a tag title
58:11
It's like a damn joke. And he's very good in the ring
58:17
if they actually let him execute properly. Yeah. So, do you guys see
58:25
John Cena and R-Truth potentially having a match? Oh, yeah. No, yes
58:31
I hear no, yes. I don't think so. The way R-Truth has been booked
58:37
lately, I don't see it. And I don't see it, because Cena only has, like, X amount of
58:43
appearances left. He only has, like, 24 or 25 appearances left. He's not going to make one of his appearances on a
58:49
match with R-Truth. Like, I mean, you might get some funny backstage segments
58:53
but matches like he why would he waste it on something that small when he could use
58:57
that little appearance to build up to a match with somebody or
59:00
do that to cut a promo to build a feud it makes more sense for him
59:04
to do it that way our truth is not scared to call out somebody even on a funny
59:11
moment and he will call somebody out during a match and if he couldn't
59:15
during the times when John Cena and him had them funny moments backstage I have a feeling
59:20
somewhere along the line John Cena and R-Truth are going to have
59:24
a non-title or just a regular match before he leaves, before he finishes
59:30
his tour. I just have a gut feeling for that. And I'm for it
59:36
I'm for that. If it does. I miss R-Truth in the ring
59:42
Like, I loved him in TNA. The whole thing was... Ron Kellings was so good and underrated
59:48
I miss the whole him with Adam Pacman Jones, the football player
59:55
That was gold. That was great. and Pac-Man gets the football and runs around
1:00:03
I love that. I miss that. They don't even wrestle and hang in the ring
1:00:08
in TNA. Why the hell we're not getting that? We're just getting more comedy with
1:00:16
Arthrooth instead of letting him go in the ring, which he can do
1:00:20
And he's proven in TNA. Blows my mind. Arthrooth is 53 years old
1:00:28
I just looked that up. Oh my god, really? That's insane. And actually, I think John Cena's about like, what, 45, 46, 49
1:00:38
48. 48. 48, yeah. Put this in perspective. I believe Triple H is only 52
1:00:50
Yeah. Or he's 53. And he's already had heart issues and stuff like that
1:00:55
Triple H is 55. Triple H is 55. Yeah, 55. Triple H is the same age as my much older brother
1:01:06
That's crazy to me that Triple H retired from the ring when he was R-Truth's age
1:01:15
R-Truth is he can still go. I love R-Truth. He's one of the best things about WWE
1:01:25
I just love him. Oh, yeah, absolutely. How can we not love R-Truth
1:01:30
If you really hate R-Truth. Especially all the stuff he did with Judgment Day
1:01:37
Oh, my God. That's where I can be rolling. And the jelly rolls Oh my God They looked at him crazy like My favorite artist woman had us to go all the way back to Money in the Bank 2016
1:01:54
when he's like, oh, like, you know, this and this. And he was making a joke like
1:02:01
oh, like, I'm afraid to cut me ladders and all this stuff. He was like
1:02:05
I've got acrophobia, y'all. Yeah. What are you doing? they're not in the match
1:02:14
I'm sorry yeah he can make his co-workers break character he had
1:02:22
Brock Lesnar break character oh my god that was so funny remember him in the Women's Royal Rumble
1:02:30
oh my god yes oh yeah he got oh so funny Okay
1:02:42
So, I gotta ask this. Which moment was funnier? R-Cuth in a Women's Royal Rumble
1:02:48
or Titus O'Neil doing a slide? Oh, man. I'm agreeing. I gotta give it to Titus
1:02:57
That moment was so memeable that everyone was posting that online where it was like, yeah
1:03:06
I could not have laughing. Oh, my God. So funny. over and over and over again
1:03:11
Yeah. The next pay-per-view after that is all female pay-per-view. Yeah, I think it's Evolution, I think
1:03:20
Evolution, yeah. Nice. Evolution is July 5th, I think. I mean, there is an NXT
1:03:29
roadblock or something coming up at the end of the month I know that I know and then they have NXT backlash is the same day as Double or Nothing In May I can watch AEW
1:03:43
I just can't. That's my promotion. That's my promotion, so, I mean
1:03:50
it is. I mean, I can't watch the whole pay-per-view until, like, one in the morning. I just can't
1:03:57
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