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Hello everybody, Sam from Road Trail Run. Today we're going to take a look at the
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Saucony Triumph 22. See some big changes. It gets Power Run PB foam, same as in the
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Endorphins, but a more, what they say is a more durable, maybe a bit denser
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formulation. It's a 37 millimeter heel, 27 millimeter forefoot. That's unchanged, but
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we do get a wider platform and a, I think, a more accommodating kind of smooth
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upper. It's $160. It will be available May 1st, 2024. Let's get into the details, a
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run along the New Hampshire coast, and some comparisons. Okay, let's get into the
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details of the platform and the upper, and then I'll take them for the run. So
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the most important change here is we get Power Run PB foam, which is a super
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critical PEBA foam. This is the same foam as in the Endorphins series, and
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before, when in our Triumph 20 and 21, and this is a 20, I did not review the 21, it
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was just an upper change. We had Power Run Plus, which is a beaded expanded bead
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TPU foam. So I actually took them out on an A-B run, one against each other, and I
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can tell you that the new foam in our 22 is definitely more vibration absorbing
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and more shock absorbing, even though it isn't quite as soft. So it's less
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kind of bouncy. You can see the rubbery feel, and more direct, more
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quickly responding, and I especially noticed that in the forefoot, and I'll
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get into that during the run. So this is clearly a superior foam. Now we also have
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a wider platform, so we're 10 millimeters wider at the heel, 10
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millimeters wider at the midfoot, and 5 at the forefoot than our previous on the
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20 and 21. That does lead to an increase in weight, because now we're
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coming in at about 10.75 ounces, or 304 grams in a US 9, whereas before we were
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at 9.8 ounces, 279 grams. And I think that's more attributable to the width of
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the platform than the foam, because the Peeba foam should be lighter. But it is
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really not noticed on the run. In fact, this is, even though our Triumph neutral
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shoe, very kind of plush, always known for a plush ride, it felt almost rough in
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comparison to our 22. So the ride is definitely improved. Now moving on to the
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it's still a 37 millimeter heel, 27 millimeter forefoot. Moving on to the
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uppers, there was something that was really, really noticeable here for me. The
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Achilles collars on both of these are really different. You can see here, we've
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got on our 22, we've got a very kind of plush approach, whereas here we had kind
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of a sharply angular one. This Achilles collar is not only far more
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comfortable, but it is equally as secure. You can see the foam isn't mushy soft
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I'm not sure how they pulled this off, but it really works well. I won't be
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pretending to give you kind of medical advice, but I think if you have an
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Achilles that bothers you in the back here, this upper may be something that
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will be very helpful. The tongue is decently padded, moderately padded. It'll
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be hard to see, but we have a gusset tongue, pretty substantial. That's kind
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of important because this engineered mesh, other than these woven in kind of
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3D supports, does not have any overlays. Toe box is moderately wide. The
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mesh, because there's no big overlays, is very accommodating. Not sure it'll be the
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most breathable, but this is kind of the mesh we're seeing this year, kind of
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a denser closed mesh that really wraps the foot really, really well, and it
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certainly does here. You can see that the straps that we had here that kind of
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locked in are gone. I don't really miss them because, as I said, we've got this
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wider platform, which 10 millimeters wider at the heel, so we're now at 95
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millimeters, 75 millimeters, 10 millimeters wider at the midfoot, and 5 millimeters wider at the forefoot. Feel the, in combination with the new rubber
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approach, that this all works really well, although I think this may be a touch
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overdone through here, but I think Saucony was careful to give the shoe
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enough stability. Of course, it's neutral, to allow you to kind of be stable enough
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in this soft, energetic foam, and that's what I feel. Now, in terms of flex, try not
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to tip everything over. There's very decent flex here. I'm not sure you can
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see it. Very decent flex, and that is noticed as being a bit less flexible
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than our 20 here, but more cushioned at the forefoot, which is kind of
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interesting. So, I've taken them out for four runs now, including the AB run, and
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now I'm going to give you some feedback from the run. Beautiful Rye Harbor area
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so there'll be a bit of scenery and a bit of history. Stay tuned, and then I'll
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also, at the end, do some comparisons to some shoes I think are pretty
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comparable, including Nike Vomero 17, New Balance 1080 V13, Brooks Glycerin 21, and
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Puma Magnify Nitro 2. Stay tuned. Okay, we're by the Rye Marshes, and I want to
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talk a little bit about the fit of our Triumph. So, for me, I'm an 8 1⁄2
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narrow to medium foot, and this is a perfect, perfect fit for me. You notice
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the upper is almost tubular in shape, and this leads to a very consistent fit. As
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far as the toe room, you can see I have about a half the thumb's width. The mesh
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is dense, but it has a bit of give to it. This is what we're seeing more and more
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kind of a denser mesh. There are some ventilation holes. I noticed the midfoot
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strap holding me nicely because we do have fairly soft foam here, energetic
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soft foam. Tongue just about right, a bit, you know, a bit puffy, but I think you
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need that to hold in this quite pliable upper. The other thing that's very, very
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noticeable, in contrast to the Triumph 20, the heel counter is very easy on the
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foot, very easy on the Achilles. The 20 was kind of rigid high. Here we have a
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lot of really nice padding that's not overly soft. It's just about right. The
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feel is a bit low, but that's good because there's no pressure on the
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Achilles, but very, very solid. Midfoot, as I said, really solid, toe box solid
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This is not a performance kind of upper, I'd say. It's more a comfort upper, but
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it's one that's really well pulled off. By not going with kind of a stretch knit
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as they had in the 21 or say the New Balance 1080, you can get a lot of
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volume and comfort without it being sloppy. So this is a really very, very
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comfortable upper. It's not particularly warm today. I haven't tested in the heat
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They may run a bit hot, but I'd prefer a secure fit to too much kind of
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sloppiness and stretch, especially with our Peeba midsole. Neat old colonial here
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We're on what's called Lock Road, named after one of the early families. First comments about the ride. I already told you a bit in the first part, but you've
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got a lot of energy return from the Peeba midsole, which is, I think, maybe
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a touch firmer than the, in the endorphin, but we have no plate here
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The outsole provides a lot of the support. The toe off is flexible, lively
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Bigfoot, I think a bit broad for me in terms of the platform, but this is a
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ride for long, comfortable miles. We of course talked about the upper at just
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about any pace, although given the weight of the shoe and the upper, it's
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more for your everyday miles and speed, although the foam is more than capable
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of it. But it's just a very pleasant, smooth, soft ride. Almost feels natural because
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of the flexibility and the return of the foam. So coming up on the Fry Harbor
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here, I'm going to keep going. So grip on this sand over dry pavement. Fair, decent. There's a bit of
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profile. I've seen worse, that's for sure. It's really pretty good. It's
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always a tricky challenge, the sand on this, over the tar. Now we're going by
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the harbor. I stopped at the monument at the tip of the harbor to the first Europeans to
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land, and they're asking people to try to clear the rocks from all our storms
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that we had in January by Earth Day. I don't think we quite made it. There's something special about a super foam without a plate. You have just
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enough support from the outsole. Very, not bouncy, but springy, in a more kind
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of deliberate way. Really feels great. So the fishing boats are back in for the season. There are a few that do the
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winter. Mainly lobster and scallop, I think, is what we fish around here. It's
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a beautiful harbor that dates way, way back. And there was once a major
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skirmish with the British who tried to come ashore for supplies, the War of
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1812. And the locals had plenty of time because they rowed ashore, the British
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and they all kind of brought their picnics and chased them off. Oh, we got
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somebody coming in over here. Let's get into some pros and cons of our Triumph 22. So the cushioning is very
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deep, very vibration absorbing, with a quick training focused energy return. This isn't, there's no plate here. So you've got a deep, deep stack of cushion
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that doesn't ever, ever, ever feel mushy. I'd also say there's some response
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from the foam and the outsole combination. But you won't mistake this
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for, for example, an endorphin speed because there's no plate. And the
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platform, wider, more stable, maybe a touch wide, and a bit overdone with
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rubber stabilizing here. But this is a neutral shoe. And it really has kind of
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a natural, it's strange to say 37 millimeter heel, 27 millimeter forefoot
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kind of a natural feel underfoot. You can really feel your toes working. And
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there's a bit more of a rocker now. So there's a bit of a smooth rocker and we
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have some flex. The outsole is well matched to the midsole. So you don't
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feel like there's too much hard rubber or kind of a slappy disconnect. The
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upper, this sort of tubular, tubular kind of approach, and you saw that
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earlier, just wraps the foot very, very smoothly. And I think the, these rear
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Achilles collar, very good hold, very gentle, soft hold, may be able to help
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some folks who have issues back there. In far, as far as cons, well, the bigger
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biggest one is probably the weight because we gain 25 grams to now come in
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at 10.75 ounces, and 304 grams, not sure that's could have been avoided. Given
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the wider platform, and all this extensive rubber, not really felt on the
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run. When I did the AB test to the number 20. And a bit slower to
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transition a bit, a bit kind of more rigid than the 20. But I think fans of
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the 2021, 21 had a different upper more kind of knit, stretch knit like are
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going to be very pleased with this really modernized take on the Triumph as
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the big cushy neutral, neutral daily trainer in the Saucony line and now one
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that gets a thoroughly modern foam update. We're seeing more and more
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supercritical foams and trainers and plateless ones and this is a really fine
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one. Now let's get into some comparisons. So compared to the Triumph 20 and
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underfoot the same for the 21. I didn't run the 21. But we do have a review of
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it. The our new our new Triumph is for sure more energy, energetically riding
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with more kind of a more consistent feel and more forgiving cushion as well as a
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more comfortable upper. Yes, it does gain some weight. It's it's it's a
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thoroughly modern upgrade. Next up Saucony Ride 17. It still has the Power
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Run Plus TPU, beaded TPU, expanded beaded TPU. The Triumph used to have it is
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lighter by 23 grams. So it weighs about the same as the Triumph 21 does now it's
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it's slightly lower stack than what we have here. It sits on a five millimeter
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narrow platform all around. It's a bit more agile, no question because of that
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narrow platform and it leans a bit faster pace than the Triumph. So it's
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upper while comfort is not quite as plush and all of a piece as the
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Triumphs. While I prefer the Power Run PB midsole of the new Triumph, the ride
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is slightly more a slightly more versatile daily trainer due to its
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lower weight and more nimble platform. Okay, the 1080 V13 fresh foam from New
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Balance. Well, I didn't like this shoe too much. Overly soft, non critical, super
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critical foam, kind of mushy with a stretchy knit upper. It just didn't work
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well for me. It really takes comfort a bit too far. You've got at least as much
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comfort here but at least you have a secure upper and a more energetic, less
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mushy ride. Nike's Vomero 17 definitely a more kind of performance oriented
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snugger upper. It has a combination of Zoom X foam we know so well and more
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EVA kind of lower midsole carrier and a more profiled outsole so a bit better
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maybe if you do some light trails. It is 21 grams lighter, has a similar stack
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height and drop. It just isn't as plush or as consistently smooth and feel top
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to bottom but is more is a bit more stable and kind of more responsive. So if
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you're looking for kind of a plusher ride then the Vomero, check this one out
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Brooks Glycerin 21, similar to the experience to the 1080, a stretchy knit
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upper in the version I had. More focused on comfort than performance. There's a
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lighter stealth fit upper, might change my opinion somewhat. It does have
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supercritical DNA V3 foam which is a bit softer and not as quick reacting as
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what we have here so I would call the Power Run PB a bit more performance
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oriented foam. The Triumph I think as with the comparison to the 1080
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threads the needle between performance and comfort better. Finally the Puma Magnify Nitro 2. This is a supercritical nitro foam, all nitro foam
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unlike the first version of this shoe. It's lighter, it's three millimeters higher stack yet it weighs 19 grams less. Its upper is not as plush
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or broad fitting but is more secure. The nitro foam of the Magnify is similar in
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characteristics to our PB, if a bit mushier and less responsive. Its outsole
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is definitely more profiled and even light trails worthy, reducing the foam
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advantage of the Triumph. So the Puma may be a slightly more versatile shoe. It
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comes down a bit to fit and preferences. I would take that Puma outsole any day
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over this really quite fine outsole here. Thank you very much for watching
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The Triumph 22 from Saucony will be available May 1st 2024. We also have a
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full written review, soon to be multi tester, over on www.roadtrailrun.com. Have a