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Jul 22, 2025
#redditrelationship #aita #redditstories She Only Sees Me as a Friend After 15 Years of Marriage | Reddit Unheard Stories After 15 years of marriage, everything I thought I knew about love, partnership, and family fell apart. My wife — the woman I’ve been with since we were 14 — told me she no longer felt romantic love. We had become co-parents and roommates. In a desperate attempt to save what remained, I turned to the 180 Method — a cold, emotionally painful strategy designed to spark change. What followed were weeks of silence, pain, breakthroughs, and finally... something real. This is my raw, unfiltered story of heartbreak, reflection, and hope. Whether you're navigating a difficult relationship or simply want to hear a real, emotional journey — this is for you. 🧠 Therapy. 💔 Distance. ❤️ Reconnection. 🔔 Subscribe for more real-life stories, relationship talk, and self-growth insights.
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The stale air of our living room felt
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heavier than usual. Each breath a
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conscious effort. 15 years. 15 years
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since we, barely more than children
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ourselves at 14, started building a life
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together.
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Now, at nearly 9 weeks into what I'd
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reluctantly started calling the 180
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method, the silence between us was
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punctuated by the echo of unspoken
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truths and the weight of a marriage
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teetering on the brink. It began, as
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these things often do, with a confession
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that gutted me. "I just see you as a
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best friend," she said, her voice soft
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but firm during a couple's therapy
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session. "I only love you in a platonic
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way." The words hung in the air, a cruel
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explanation for the 3 years of emotional
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and physical distance that had become
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our agonizing normal. She felt disgusted
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after we were intimate. She told me
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after one of those rare, desperate
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attempts at closeness.
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A rule, she explained about never
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sleeping with friends.
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The sting of that word, friends, felt
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like a brand. Later that same day, the
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layers of her frustration peeled back
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further. Resentment. A deep-seated
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bitterness she couldn't explain, but
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attributed to my seemingly greater focus
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on our kids.
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So much resentment, in fact, that her
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mind had wandered, seeking solace in
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thoughts of other men. I was blindsided,
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completely and utterly lost. Then came
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the night she stumbled home, hammered,
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and begged for intimacy.
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Every fiber of my being screamed, "No!"
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But her pleas, persistent and raw, wore
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me down. The morning after, the same
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familiar sting. I felt disgusted with
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myself. The friend zone reiterated. The
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rule reestablished and then the crushing
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blow. All she truly wanted was
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companionship. Our marriage reduced to a
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co-parenting roommate dynamic. "What is
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it about me?" I'd asked, my voice barely
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a whisper. "What makes me so
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unattractive, so undesirable?"
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Her answer was a shrug, a vacant, "I
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don't know." "She loved me," she
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insisted, but not the same way. She'd
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felt disconnected for years. Our
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marriage too much work. Her world, it
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seemed, revolved solely around our
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children, and my contributions as a
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co-parent were merely meaningful.
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I was a good co-parent, a convenient
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fixture, but not a partner. Puzzled,
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frustrated, and a drift, I didn't know
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how to move forward. The word resentment
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gnawed at me. It felt like an invisible
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chain binding us to a past neither of us
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fully understood.
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She couldn't articulate why she felt it,
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and the ambiguity was maddening.
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During another therapy session, I
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brought it up again, reminding our
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therapist of our extraordinary history.
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Married for 15 years, together since we
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were 14, becoming parents at 19. We'd
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navigated severe poverty and countless
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hardships, sacrificing our social lives
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for a decade to raise our two children,
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now 12 and 14. Our lives had been a
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relentless cycle of work and child care.
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With little room for anything else, the
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therapist wisely turned to my wife,
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probing her feelings.
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And as before, 90% of her responses
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revolved around the kids. It was as if
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admitting to any personal
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dissatisfaction would imply she
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regretted them, a crushing weight of
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guilt or shame. I pointed this out and
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the therapist with gentle encouragement
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urged her to consider her feelings
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outside the rigid lens of motherhood to
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view it a bit more selfishly and
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individually.
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That was the breakthrough. My wife's
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eyes, for the first time in what felt
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like forever, held a flicker of
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something beyond maternal devotion. She
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admitted to being deeply frustrated
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about missing out on many things in
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life. And then a revelation that hit me
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with the force of a tidal wave.
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I do not think I missed out on other
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partners or dating or partying, but I
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certainly lost all my friends. This was
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huge. The isolation, the siloed
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existence we'd led had been a constant
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source of strain.
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I seized the moment, reminding her of
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the vital importance of friendships, of
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carving out time for herself, for
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connections beyond our immediate family.
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We'd had these conversations before,
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countless times over the past 3 years.
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I'd always tried to impress upon her the
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value of a supportive peer group, of
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shared experiences, and independent
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enjoyment. But her default answer was
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always the same, the kids.
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They were the reason she couldn't invest
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in friends, couldn't invest in herself.
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A pattern emerged, clear as day. The
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kids were the common denominator in
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almost all her frustrations. A daring
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question formed on my tongue. Do you
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think you might be upset at me because
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I'm responsible for these kids in the
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sense that I got you pregnant so young?
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She admitted it. A quiet
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acknowledgement.
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But then a moment of self-awareness.
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I know that's unreasonable because it
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takes two to tango progress. A small
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fragile step, but progress nonetheless.
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It gave us something tangible to work
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on.
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We agreed to prioritize nurturing
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friendships both individually and as a
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couple. The ambiguity of our situation,
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however, remained. Towards the end of
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that session, the conversation turned to
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actionable items. I needed clarity.
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What's your plan moving forward? I
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asked, my voice direct, unyielding. Her
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response was a familiar echo. No desire
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for intimacy as of now. immense love for
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me and a profound guilt for not being
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there.
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I also brought up our brief foray into
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swinging, a desperate mechanical attempt
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at a solution that proved meaningless.
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She, for the 50th time, dismissed it as
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a non-issue, and I agreed.
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It had been an experiment, tried and
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discarded, a symptom rather than a cure.
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Other potential sources of resentment
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were explored, but we kept circling back
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to the same frustrating non-answers. "I
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won't be okay with this arrangement," I
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stated, my voice firm, resolute. "I've
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done everything I can. This has nothing
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to do with me anymore, and it doesn't
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require me to do anything I'm not
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already doing."
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I told her unequivocally that I would
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not accept this dynamic.
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I needed a partner who was actively
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invested in our marriage, who sought
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resolutions, who desired and maintained
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an intimate connection.
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I wasn't going to be a convenience, a
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co-parenting roommate. There was more to
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life than that. My love for her, I
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emphasized, was unwavering.
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I wanted this to work. I was fully
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committed, provided she was, too. If
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not, it was okay. But I wouldn't
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participate in a one-sided effort. I had
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no plans to leave, no desire for
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divorce, but if this dynamic persisted,
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divorce would be the only outcome. Tears
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flowed, a bleak and sorrowful end to the
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session. Nothing more was said. I walked
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out, discouraged, but with a fierce new
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determination, I would begin the 180
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method. The 180 method. It's painful,
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cold, and transactional by design. And
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the sad irony was our marriage already
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felt that way. But I had to try. The
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same day, I informed her, "Things are
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going to be a bit different. I'm going
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to honor your roommate co-parent dynamic
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without reproach. But make no mistake,
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I'm not happy, and I'll never be okay
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with it. I'm just done working on it if
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you're not."
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She agreed, her face unreadable, and
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went to bed. I started building
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distance, focusing solely on myself. My
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responses became short, transactional.
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When she asked for help with personal
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matters, I declined. Her shock was
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palpable.
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"You're being petulant," she accused. I
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explained that she was now fully in
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charge of her own life and issues. "We
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didn't speak all day, only when
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absolutely necessary. For a few days, I
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maintained this cold, distant demeanor.
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She was visibly upset, stressed. My
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usual reaction, gestures of help,
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nurturing words remained unspoken.
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That night, she cried, telling me she
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was stressed, that something was wrong
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with me because of my indifference.
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I listened, then calmly stated.
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This is the dynamic you proposed. I'm
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simply, like you, taking care of myself
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and focusing on myself.
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It was incredibly difficult to be cold
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and distant. Every fiber of my being
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wanted to hold her, to comfort her. But
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I knew this was in a way manipulative, a
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means to an end, to shake her from the
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comfort of the friend zone. I had to
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stay the course. One week into the 180,
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and the changes on her side were
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undeniable. She was beginning to realize
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there was more to me than just a friend
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and co-parent. A few days ago, I'd sent
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her a text itemizing bills, separating
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financial responsibilities 50/50. She
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lost it. "That's out of left field," she
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exclaimed. My response was blunt.
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"Friends go in 50/50. As your friend, I
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expect nothing less."
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This was a jarring, eyeopening moment
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for me. It unveiled the extent to which
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I had been taken for granted, how her
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comfort and convenience had come at my
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expense.
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I pushed through, reminding her this was
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the new dynamic she'd asked for and that
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it was still a bargain compared to being
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100% on her own. While the 180 has been
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effective in many areas, the sadness
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lingers. The realizations, the unspoken
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truths that have come to light haven't
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been pleasant. Yet, it has undeniably
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sparked new energy and effort on her
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part. She's seeking me out, wanting to
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talk more often.
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While it's hard to turn down, I hope
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this continues if things improve.
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Crucially, she's also started making
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time for herself beyond being a mom. A
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monumental shift after years of self-
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neglect.
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Seeing her reclaim parts of herself is
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deeply pleasing. My hope is that as we
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both work on ourselves, our marriage
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will mend.
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There's no telling where this journey
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will lead. We remain cordial, amicable,
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even a positive sign. Boundaries are
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set, expectations clear. No matter the
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outcome, I feel a sense of peace knowing
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I've done everything I can. We'll
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continue with couples therapy, a vital,
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unbiased third party to witness and
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guide us. Whether we rekindle our
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marriage or ultimately divorce, my love
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for her remains, but I will not
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participate in an intimacyless marriage.
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We both deserve better. We're now almost
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9 weeks into the 180 method and it's
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undeniably yielding positive reactions
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from my wife. So much has shifted
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seemingly for the better. This past
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Memorial Day weekend, a significant
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moment arrived. My wife asked me to go
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for coffee. She wanted to talk about
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something important. I can't recall the
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last time she initiated such a
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conversation. My mind raced, filled with
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a myriad of scenarios, a mixture of
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nervousness and anticipation.
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I agreed, and we found ourselves at a
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local coffee shop away from the kids.
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The conversation that unfolded was
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incredibly constructive, filled with
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insightful revelations about her
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emotional and mental state.
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We summarized the core issues we were
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facing, and then a phrase I hadn't heard
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in 3 years. I need your help.
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A wave of excitement, sincere and
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profound, washed over me. This was new.
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After she finished sharing her thoughts,
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I proposed a plan.
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It was something I'd been contemplating
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for weeks, planning to introduce it in a
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few months if I didn't see positive
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change. But this felt like the right
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moment, aligning perfectly with her
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request for help. I began by validating
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her feelings and concerns.
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They're valid, I told her. and how you
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feel is personal to you. I care that you
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feel this way. I don't like the thought
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of you being sad or depressed.
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I reiterated my unwavering goal.
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Reconciliation to be the happily ever
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after we vowed to be. My love for her as
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strong, if not stronger, than the day we
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said, "I do." Then I opened up about my
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own feelings, how the situation had
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affected me daily.
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I clarified my recent distance and
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monotone demeanor, explaining it wasn't
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personal, but a protective measure. I
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was safeguarding my emotions from the
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rejection and neglect.
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I can't control you, I explained. I can
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only control myself. This was the
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perfect segue to the core of my
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approach, selfaccountability.
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For too long, I'd worked tirelessly to
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make her happy, to do things I knew she
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enjoyed, only to be met with rejection
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and disappointment. It had taken a
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significant toll. I had to make a change
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for myself, I told her. I can only
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control myself and make the changes I
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want for myself. I shared how I was
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implementing new habits and routines to
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edify myself while still fulfilling all
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our shared responsibilities, parenting,
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finances, daily life. My goal, I
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explained, was to continue improving
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myself as a husband and father, to learn
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more and to be healthier.
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Her reception was remarkable.
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She saw what I was doing, she said, and
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was proud of the changes.
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She was beginning to realize that she
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felt left behind and that many of her
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negative experiences were in fact her
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own fault. Towards the end of our 3-hour
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conversation, a palpable spirit of
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reconciliation filled the room. I
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reiterated my ultimate goal to make our
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marriage work. But I was unequivocally
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clear. I would not continue living under
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the current circumstances.
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And so we established a new framework
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for our lives built on shared
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understanding and individual
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responsibility.
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Individual happiness, shared journey. We
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are each responsible for our own
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happiness. Neither of us is solely
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accountable for the others well-being.
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We must individually seek out what our
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personal plan for happiness looks like.
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We are encouraged to include each other
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in these steps, but it's not a
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requirement.
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Self-control and resourcefulness.
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We control our individual lives and
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journeys. This means we are each
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responsible for finding the resources
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necessary to grow, change, and heal. We
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can offer help when requested, but
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unsolicited advice or assistance will
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not be given. Clear communication is
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key.
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We are responsible for communicating.
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Nothing should be left unsaid. If it
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wasn't brought up or discussed, it
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didn't happen. We are not mind readers
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and we must take ownership when we fail
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to communicate.
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A guide, not a checklist. We will create
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lists of our individual needs and wants.
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These lists provide clear direction for
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meeting each other's needs and give us a
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choice to compromise, to fulfill, or to
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decline.
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Crucially, these lists are not for
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accountability or arguments. They are
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tools for transparency, growth, and
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clarification to be used because we
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care, not to simply check a box.
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This is vital for establishing long-term
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habits, not short-term fixes.
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You cannot force someone to change or do
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something they don't believe is
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important. We concluded by setting a
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hard deadline, Memorial Day 2025.
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On that day, we will evaluate our lives
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and our progress with the clear
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understanding that we will independently
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decide if we are truly happy. If not,
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divorce will be the outcome. We both
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agreed to assume full responsibility for
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what happened should we divorce. If
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needs weren't met, it would mean the
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partner chose not to meet them. This
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places full responsibility on each of
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our shoulders. If we did everything to
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address an issue and it still wasn't
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resolved, we will have a clear
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conscience. If not, it means the issue
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wasn't important enough or we didn't
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care enough to meet those needs. The
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main motivator for change, we agreed,
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must come from within ourselves.
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If we achieve that, beneficial changes
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towards each other will naturally
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follow. The goal is to do things for
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each other because we want to, not
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because we're asked or expected.
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It's about wanting to make our spouse
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happy and loving to see them happy. I
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emphasized that we are no longer
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required to do anything for each other.
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It's now a matter of wanting to. The
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conversation was overwhelmingly
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positive, productive.
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Many tears were shed followed by
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heartfelt hugs.
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I know this doesn't guarantee anything,
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but this level of emotional connection,
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this openness has never happened before.
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I truly believe it's a direct result of
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the 180 method. I've decided to conclude
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the 180 method. The plan has shifted. My
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focus now is not only on my own growth,
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but also on understanding and working on
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her needs and wants because I want her
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to be happy by my side. She agreed to do
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the same for herself.
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We will help and build each other
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wherever help is requested. Approaching
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this as a team. As of today, some of the
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biggest changes I've noticed are her
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commitment to therapy and mental health.
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She's taking anti-depressants that are
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helping, and she's more confident, in a
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far better mood, more frequently.
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We've also started exploring more
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avenues of intimacy, both physical touch
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and words of affirmation.
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The path ahead is uncertain, but for the
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first time in a long time, there's
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