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There are certain invitations in life
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you just know deep in your gut are bad
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news, a whisper of dread, a prickle on
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your skin. A few weeks ago, that sixth
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sense screamed at me when my mom invited
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me over for lunch. But despite every
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fiber of my being urging me to decline,
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a lingering hope for normaly, for family
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pulled me in. I visited anyway.
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The moment I walked through the door,
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the air congealed with an unspoken
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tension. My eyes immediately landed on
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two figures I hadn't expected. Two
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ghosts from a painful past. My sister,
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whom I'd gone no contact with 6 years
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ago, and my ex- fiance Liam, who I also
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broke up with 6 years ago.
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The setup was instant, glaring,
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I knew exactly what they were trying to
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accomplish. My heart hammered against my
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ribs. a desperate drum beat urging me to
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I turned to walk out, but my sister's
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husband, a broad-shouldered man with a
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deceptively calm demeanor, blocked the
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doorway. "Sit down," he said, his voice
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low, firm. "For your own sake." A minute
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later, my sister Lily spoke, and what
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came out of her mouth was so utterly
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unhinged, so far beyond the realm of
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sane human interaction that I actually
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doubled over in laughter. a raw,
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incredulous cackle that bordered on
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She declared that after hearing the
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news, meaning my pregnancy, they all
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felt I was making a profound mistake. It
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was their solemn duty, she announced, to
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prove that my ex, Liam, was the right
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man for me. But it didn't stop there.
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Oh, no. The true piesta resistance of
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their delusional plan was that once my
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baby was born, my husband, the man I
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loved and who had been my unwavering
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rock, should sign over his parental
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rights to my ex, I didn't even get a
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Lily, with a self-righteous flourish,
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began reading a saccharine pre-written
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letter. It droned on about how Liam was
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always the man for me, and how I had
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torn our family apart by choosing not to
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Perhaps 5 minutes into this agonizing
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monologue, my brother Marcus arrived.
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The air in the room, already thick with
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manipulation, crackled with his fury. He
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was angry beyond anything I've ever seen
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before. Without a word, he stroed over,
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grabbed my bag, and then, his voice
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cutting through Lily's droning. He
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looked at them all, his face a mask of
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disgust. I am deeply disappointed and
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disgusted in your actions," he stated,
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his voice trembling with barely
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contained rage. He practically hauled me
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outside. We sat in his car, the silence
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a stark contrast to the madness we just
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By then, I was just sobbing, the
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adrenaline finally crashing, leaving me
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rung out and vulnerable.
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Marcus just kept saying, "I'm so sorry."
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His hand rubbing my back in gentle
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circles. I'm still unsure what exactly
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transpired in that house after we left.
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What volcanic argument erupted, but I
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knew what I had to do. That night, with
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a trembling resolve, I sent everybody
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except my mom an email. Attached was my
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lawyer's contact information and a
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clear, concise statement. I do not wish
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to be contacted by any of you ever
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again. If you do, I will go to the
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police. No one has contacted me directly
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since, but I know from my dad that my
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mom and Lily are hysterical.
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They've been crying, raging, declaring
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their fervent hope to repair things and
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for Lily to be able to be in my baby's
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life, perhaps even being a godmother.
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My dad is staying with Marcus at the
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moment, both of them staunchly on my
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side. But some others in the family, the
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more periphery members, are not. I've
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even had mutual friends call me
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genuinely worried about Lily's
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well-being, asking me what happened.
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Apparently, she's now spinning a
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narrative that my husband is keeping me
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away from my family. I despise having my
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personal business aired in public, but
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their lies and manipulation left me no
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choice. I took the public route. I
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posted a lengthy Facebook update about
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everything that happened, screenshots
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and all. Lily, her husband, and Liam are
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being dragged through the mud online,
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which even if it wasn't 100% intended, I
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feel is entirely deserved. I started
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dating Liam, my brother's best friend,
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when I was 16. We were together through
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high school, a sweet, innocent first
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love. But when he proposed right after
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graduation, I rejected it. I knew even
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then with the clarity of youth that he
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This decision caused a massive eruption
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There was immense drama with everyone,
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it seemed, urging me to reconsider.
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You could have a long engagement, they
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pleaded. Make a promise to reconcile. My
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relationship with my brother Marcus,
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who's 36, suffered for a while, a
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strained silence hanging between us. But
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the one with my sister Lily, who's 32,
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She was absolutely convinced that Liam
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was the best fit for me, my soulmate, my
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She became utterly unbearable,
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especially when she started dating
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Liam's brother, adding another layer of
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unsettling proximity to the entire
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situation. Liam was still invited
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everywhere by my siblings, even to some
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I didn't say anything, biting my tongue,
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telling myself he was their friend, too,
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and it wasn't my place to dictate their
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friendships. That is, until Lily started
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to actively, relentlessly push for us to
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She did everything, trying to set us up
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on blind dates, cunningly arranging for
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us to share a room during family
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holidays, ensuring Liam was invited to
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every single occasion, no matter how
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small or intimate. After a while, I'd
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had enough. I was exhausted by her
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schemes, by the constant pressure. I
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finally asked my parents to intervene.
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They were clear with my siblings. Stop
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inviting Liam to things. Stop allowing
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him to tag along so much. It got
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slightly better. While Marcus, to his
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credit, backed off, Lily didn't. Not
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really. She just got more subtle, more
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insidious in her attempts. It all came
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to a crashing halt when I met my now
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husband, David, during a semester
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He was from another university, but the
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same country, and we just clicked. It
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was magical for me, a love that felt
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effortless and pure, devoid of the toxic
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undercurrents I'd grown accustomed to.
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We got engaged after dating for a year.
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My family surprisingly was very happy
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for me, showering me with
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congratulations and well-wishes.
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All except my sister.
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She kept insisting I was in the
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honeymoon phase and would eventually
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grow out of it. A bitter mantra she
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repeated endlessly. I clearly didn't.
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And after many, many, many, I cannot
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express enough how many fights and
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relentless attempts to reunite me with
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Liam, I simply let her know. I gave her
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a final unequivocal warning. If she
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pulled anything like that again, I would
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stop talking to her. What did she do
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after that clear warning, she made me a
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And then, with breathtaking audacity,
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she requested I spend all my time with
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the bridal party, which of course
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included Liam. And to top it all off,
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she set up one of her friends as my
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husband's date for the wedding. We
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didn't realize the extent of her
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sabotage until we were at the reception
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and the poor unsuspecting girl tried to
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make a pass at David. When I confronted
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Lily, her chilling response was that
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since we are not married, it was okay to
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explore things with other people.
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The sheer callousness of it, the blatant
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disrespect for my relationship was a
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final shattering blow. I left the party
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The next day, I spoke with my parents
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and Marcus. I explained calmly but
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firmly that while I wouldn't make them
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choose, I would not talk to Lily ever
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again. And if they tried to fix things
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between us, if they mediated or
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pressured me, I would simply cut contact
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with them, too. My mom was devastated,
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pleading, trying to negotiate. But my
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dad and Marcus, seeing the unwavering
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resolve in my eyes, said they would
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And apart from two attempts from my mom
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early on, I haven't spoken, written, or
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had any contact with Lily in the past 6
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years. My sister has tried everything to
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reconcile with me over these years.
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Lavish gifts, dramatic tantrums, tearful
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But I simply don't talk to her at all.
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If we're at a family event or dinner, I
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act as if she doesn't exist.
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At first, she made snarky comments,
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tried to create drama, but since nobody
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backed her up, since no one gave her the
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validation she craved, she eventually
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gave up. She did have a meltdown, a
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truly spectacular one, when she was
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informed she was invited to my wedding,
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but would not be part of any
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Marcus says he feels incredibly guilty
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for going along with their schemes for
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so long, and his relationship with Liam
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They still talk, but they are not as
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The toxicity has finally started to
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spread through their friendships, too.
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So, the state of my family so far. After
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the intervention lunch and my subsequent
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post, things escalated rapidly. I had a
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conversation with my mother, who instead
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of showing remorse, doubled down on her
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delusion. She insists she knows best
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that I am a bad person and that she will
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be getting grandparent rights or even
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custody of my child. I don't know what
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bizarre legal advice she's receiving,
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but I still panicked at the sheer
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audacity of it. So, we sent her a formal
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letter about it, a legal warning shot.
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My dad, bless his heart, moved out
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He told my mom in no uncertain terms
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that he could not sign on to her
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terrorizing his kid. Marcus and his wife
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also decided to go no contact with her.
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I know it seems very sudden this mass
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exodus, but I think I had underestimated
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the level of despair and fury that my
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brother and father felt after witnessing
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that horrifying intervention attempt. My
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husband David had spoken to them
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afterward, telling them they had to
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think very carefully about what they
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truly appreciated in life to be kind and
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receptive to everything, but that we
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would not raise a kid in a toxic
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This is one of the 32,716
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337 reasons why I love my husband. He is
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unwavering in his moral compass. David
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is heartbroken about my mom and her
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fakeness, her cruel deception.
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He says she will never get anything from
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him as much as revenge goes. He and
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Lily's husband, who to his credit, seems
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to be re-evaluating his alliances after
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that lunch, even talked to my
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mother-in-law about her initial
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comments, doubting my story and made her
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understand why it was very out of line.
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As many of you assumed, she is a very
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loving mom from a loving family. And
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once she had the full picture, she was
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nothing but supportive.
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My dad and Marcus keep apologizing for
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any role they played in this extended
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My dad can't believe it went to this
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point. He says it is still surreal for
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him. Regardless, they support me no
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matter what and say they are willing to
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help me fight whatever ridiculous legal
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battle my mom or Lily try to instigate.
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Marcus and his wife sat my nephews down
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and with age appropriate care explained
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that grandma was ill and had tried to
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hurt Auntie Diamond and the little
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cousin. They explained that Grandma
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would not be part of their lives
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anymore, but that doesn't mean she
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It was really hard, but the kids are
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smart. They were also told their other
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aunt, Lily, was no longer in their life,
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but surprisingly they don't seem to care
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as much. Not just because of me, but
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simply because she isn't exactly great
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with them either. Often absorbed in her
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own drama. My mom lost it when she was
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informed about this. Claiming she had
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rights and would get to see her
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grandchildren, another empty threat. My
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dad is actively looking for a permanent
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place, but will stay with us until
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January, mainly due to Marcus'
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mother-in-law coming to visit and us
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having the space. He is really sad. has
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called divorce lawyers, already moved
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bank accounts, and done everything
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necessary to disentangle his life from
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my mother's. He has been getting
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countless emails, messages, and calls
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from my mom, but he doesn't reply to
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His lawyer advised him not to block her
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right now to keep a record. He even
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considered forgiving her for a fleeting
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moment. But then a couple of days after
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my last post here, I got a huge spike in
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my blood pressure because she decided to
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come to my place with Lily. Lily had
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never even been to my home before. My
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mom knew I didn't want her there. But I
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guess that doesn't matter to her
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anymore. My cleaning lady, who has been
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with us for decades and knows my mom,
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let them in as I hadn't had the chance
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to inform her she was no longer allowed.
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I was just coming home from some errands
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This time I didn't even get out. I
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called all of my relatives and David's
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sister was the closest. She confronted
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them, told them they either leave or I
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call the police for trespassing. They
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I started feeling unwell and we went to
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the doctor. They told me all the
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excitement and stress were not good for
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the baby and I needed to start relaxing
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or it would hurt the baby. My dad went
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home with Marcus, my uncle, and David,
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and took every single thing he could
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think of from the house.
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David says Lily was there, too,
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screaming at him that he had destroyed
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My dad, with a calm fury, told my mom
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and Lily that they almost killed the
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baby and that he also didn't want to
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talk to any of them ever again. Lily
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kept sending messages to Marcus, begging
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for help, but it's not happening. I am
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devastated and very sad for my nephew
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since he is losing so much of his family
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because his mother has some wacky ideas.
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But it is what it is. As per the custody
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and grandparent rights my mom wants to
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throw around so much, my lawyer sent her
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a letter stating she caused harm to my
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health and the baby and if she keeps
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harassing me, it will become an official
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legal matter. Marcus also sent her a
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letter using her harassment of me as the
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legal basis. Both mom and Lily have
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refused to go to therapy. They might be
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mentally ill, but with all of this
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coming to light, it is obvious they have
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been in agreement, a twisted pact for a
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very long time. I will focus on spending
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the holidays with my actual family being
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healthy and continuing therapy. We all,
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Marcus, David, Dad, and even David's
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family, changed our numbers, got new
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electronics, and notified employers,
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friends, and the police.
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We also started therapy, both individual
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My dad and Marcus feel extreme guilt
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over the situation, even if I have truly
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forgiven them. But we are healing as a
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unit, rebuilding our foundation on trust
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and respect. My sister and mom insist
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they are not wrong and don't need
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therapy. My dad made a new will in which
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my sister's son gets a trust fund and
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some inheritance, but Lily herself gets
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only a token amount.
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He is truly done with her. A final
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definitive severing of ties. I initially
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felt bad for her, but I decided to focus
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my energy on my baby.
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She is here now. A beautiful tiny
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blessing, and we are so grateful.
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It's not the experience I thought I'd
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have with my mom not around, but so many
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friends and family members have truly
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surprised us with their love and
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support. By the end, we were so paranoid
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about who might still be feeding info to
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my mom and Lily that we started testing
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some people we were unsure of, telling
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them I was going into labor at odd
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times. It worked like a charm.
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We discovered who was still leaking
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information and cut them out. The rest
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understood when we explained the
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reasoning behind our extreme measures.
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My ex, whom my friends now
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affectionately call Bates, as in Norman
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Bates for his creepy obsession, went
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around saying the baby was his, claiming
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we'd been having a torid affair due to
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my undying love for him. Nobody believes
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him anymore, but it still made David
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contact Bates's employer and tell them
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about all the craziness. Long story
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short, Bates was put on suspension
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pending an internal review. I'm almost
17:08
positive he will be fired as they've
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asked us for more and more information
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and seem genuinely apologetic. My mom
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has tried to find us, but all the people
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who know of our new location have gone
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no contact with her. My dad's lawyer
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sent her a letter stating that due to
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her instability, all correspondence will
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now be through lawyers. It has been just
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us and my dad because I felt so bad for
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him being alone through all of this.
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He has promised he will be fine and that
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nothing is my fault. But I still feel
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awful for what he's gone through.
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He has been the best babysitter, feeder,
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diaper changer in the universe, an
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My nephews are loving as always, and my
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dad even got a visit with Lily's son. It
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came about because she kept making
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videos threatening to hurt herself if
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David didn't stop alienating her family.
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So, my dad emailed her about seeing her
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son and told her he would call the
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police about her threats, which seems to
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have stopped that particular line of
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manipulation. Lastly, someone brought up
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that I had given Bates false hope in the
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past. It couldn't be further from the
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truth. I spent years uncomfortable,
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thinking he would just move on.
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Then, after I finally spoke up and met
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David, I spent such a long time fighting
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Lily about him. I even had a very long
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engagement with David, which is why I
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I still love my mom and sister, the idea
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of them, the memories of a healthier
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past. But I choose a healthy life for me
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and my family over that toxic love. We
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officially moved into a new house with
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my dad moving into the guest house. We
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had many discussions both in and outside
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therapy, and we decided that while it
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would be good for him to be with us, we
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all still need our space.
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We are still renting out the old place
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and will be deciding what to do later.
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My dad has the grandchildren altogether
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about three times a week now. He still
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has to see Lily's kids separately since
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she refused to let him take the kids
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unless she knew where he lived, which to
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be fair is a normal thing. But
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considering she is crazy, we don't want
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her anywhere near our new home. My mom
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complained to the lawyers about how
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unfair it is that my dad still gets to
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see all the grandchildren, but there is
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nothing she can do about it. About a
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month ago, my dad told me he had a
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confession and my stomach started
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hurting. Dear reader, he pays for my
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nephews Lily's son's schooling and
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babysitting, which is why she still
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allows him to see him. He felt so guilty
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for hiding it and didn't want to keep
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I assured him it was nothing wrong and
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to please not feel bad. He was doing it
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for his grandson, a noble act despite
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On Mother's Day, my dad got an email
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with a link to an Instagram account. It
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was a pathetic, rageinducing, sad video
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about my mom and how most of her family
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has abandoned her and how much of a
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Saint Lily is for being there for her. I
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just sent it to the lawyer. My dad
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officially filed for divorce in May, and
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the process is still ongoing.
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My mom insists he is wrong, but my dad
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said he'd rather drink bleach than go
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back to her, so I think that is final.
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Marcus and David took my dad out for
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Father's Day and had a blast. Lily
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posted many, many, many things that day
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trying to provoke, but they managed to
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block my dad from even learning about it
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because we wanted him to enjoy his day.
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They also did a camping trip with the
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kids. Aka went to a hotel, got a suite,
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and put a tent in the middle for the
20:47
kids and a little teepee for the baby.
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Honestly, having the baby is one of the
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best things that has happened to me. And
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seeing David be the amazing father I
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knew he would be makes me so incredibly
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happy. It is tiring, but we have so much
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support. I feel grateful beyond anything
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because I have my rocks on my side.
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Marcus and I now get to have a little
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calendar for sharing things.
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All the kids get to do things that are
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age appropriate. And if they want to, we
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want to let them all know they do not
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need to hang out with people they
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dislike and their voices matter. Right
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now, they are all obsessed with the baby
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and say they are her protectors. We have
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little gettogethers, brunches, etc.
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having family time is now a pleasure and
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not a headache without Lily there.
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I know it's wrong to say, but she just
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sucks the positivity out of the room. My
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mother-in-law also loves having time
21:45
with the baby and stays in the guest
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room about once a week. She asked
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politely and said she didn't want to
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take the baby for sleepovers or
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anything. I feel respected and heard by
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her, which is a stark contrast to my own
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And yes, I have broken down sometimes
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because I miss my mom a lot. I miss the
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mom I had or thought I had, not the one
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that told me I would be a terrible
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mother or was a hateful woman.
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My therapist says it's a marathon and to
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focus on the good. Speaking about good,
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Bates was terminated from his job. Not
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only that, but his reputation in his
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industry was not only damaged, but
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nuclear level damaged. So was his
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brothers. But because his brother isn't
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in an industry that cares as much about
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reputation, he still has his job as far
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as I know. Bates sent me two more very
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long handwritten rambling single-paced
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letters. Each about 12 pages
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double-sided about how hurt he is that
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I'm denying him what's his and how David
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is so threatened by him that he had to
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destroy him professionally because he
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wouldn't be able to destroy anything
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else. I said seemed because I didn't
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read them. My lawyer did and gave me a
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summary. I also heard from the
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grapevine, "No, I don't ask people. They
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just tell me since they know he's
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stalking me." That the mother of his
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other children moved and he didn't even
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care, saying it was for the best. This
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man doesn't even care about his own kids
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and wants to play family with my baby
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and me. Sadly, he won't be homeless or
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anything because mommy already let him
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move back in with her.