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English Wheel Masterclass Finessing a panel
Join us for Part 4 of a masterclass in metal shaping as Wray takes you through the process of correcting overdeveloped panels on the iconic Studebaker Future Car, designed by the legendary Virgil Exner. After teaching students the fundamentals of panel-making, Wray demonstrates how to use the English wheel to address common mistakes, such as overdevelopment, and brings the panels back to perfection. Whether you're a seasoned metalworker or just starting out, this video is packed with valuable insights and hands-on techniques to help you master the art of car restoration.
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when are we ever going to finish this
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panel we're going to finish it today I'm
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looking at it right here I got it uh
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clamped onto the buck and you'll see the
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the little twinkling of the panel the
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light on the on the panel that's the
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meat and potatoes right there that's
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what you got to get sensitive to if you
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want to learn how to PR finesse these
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panels so there's still a little bit of
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uh pounding I'll have to pound it out
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right here got it marked we can see that
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last wire now is touching totally here
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but it's a little tight right there well
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it's a little small Gap there and then
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we've got a little bit of Gap right
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there if we move that out that will move
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this in so that's the the agenda right
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now that's what we got to do here's what
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a finished panel starts to sound like
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even though this isn't finished it
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sounds the way a finish panel should
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all right one of the uh comments on the
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YouTube channel uh somebody asked why
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didn't I wheel this way here here in
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order to wheel this way here you have to
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use a pretty high Crown wheel and when
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you have a high Crown wheel going in
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here you will get tracking marks and um
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it's not a pretty thing so those
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tracking marks would be difficult to get
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out uh because you would only be able to
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get a high Crown wheel in there so
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that's why when you have a panel with an
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shape and in an arrangement or area
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value an arrangement uh like this one
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you would you would do it this way
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here now when I was working the panel
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out of arrangement I was going that way
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but that was when the panel was in what
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I call the curl
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Arrangement that when it's in that
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arrangement I can go any which way with
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this wheel now one thing I have to make
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it fit the buck but I also have to make
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sure that that curve is beautiful I hold
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it up to the light and when I do that I
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see a little bit of of strong area right
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here it's a little stronger here there
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like a little Peak than say here or here
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that tells me I have to do a little bit
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of work in here and a little bit of work
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in here to blend that
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in and I just punch pump that out over
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here I got to blend that in a little bit
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more because I knocking it out with the
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Mallet it mushroomed it a little bit so
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I got to blend that into the surrounding
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territory and I'm only going to be
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taking baby steps here so I know I'm not
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going to get too far astray if I
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overdevelop it in some other area so I'm
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going work only like a couple minutes
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here and a couple minutes there and then
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check
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it problem is when you work 10 minutes
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without checking it
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and the panel in the process of the
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working like this it's starting to
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really polish up pretty nice too so I'm
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getting that nice Chrome plate finished
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we are going to buff this panel after
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we're done with the
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buffer the same little buffing wheel
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that I'm using uh if you watch my other
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video on cleaning up the wheel I've
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adopted that method it's a really nice
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userfriendly way of buffing if you you
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get it to a high shine if there's any
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faults in the panel they will scream at
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you so one way or another you have to
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spend the time to fix all the faults you
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can fix them now when it's just the
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metal or you can fix them later with
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filler filler would be with
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Bondo which uh nobody likes but
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everybody has to use a lot of the the
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world class Restorations the entire body
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is Bondo surface and then sand it down
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and I really don't think that's the
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height of of uh panel work um why that
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happens is beyond my understanding I
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think the
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panels uh should be as close to perfect
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as possible I like I I've mentioned many
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times before I go by designers in tent
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and designers of these vehicles with the
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the shapes that they they created they
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want to see beautiful panels they don't
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want to see panels that are uh all
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filled with different types of fillers
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to make them look beautiful they want
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the metal to to to do what it's supposed
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to
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do so and then you know the argument of
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well it's so much easier to put the
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Bondo on well if you know how to work
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the metal you just get the metal
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straight and then you don't have to
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spend all that time putting all the
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Bondo on
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so I've done a couple things here one
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I've Blended in that spot that I popped
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out and two I've I've Blended this curve
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a little better it might I think it
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still needs a little bit more but again
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the last word is always the buck so
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we'll put it on the buck and see what
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that say so we got to clamp it all up
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and we'll see it in a few minutes all
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right I marked up the panel after we fit
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it up we CL clamped it up really good
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and I wheeled out those and then um also
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in addition to the
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buck letting the buck talk to you and
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telling you what to do the other one is
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that Horizon View which I've mentioned
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probably a dozen times in this video
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series so I'm sitting here and I'm
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looking at this panel and I rotate it
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like this and I just watch that curve
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and up here the curve could look
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beautiful as I turn it all of a sudden I
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see deficiencies so right now I see a a
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deficiency relative to this I've been
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pounding this out because that's where
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the wire is but it's a little low here
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which means this is sort of like
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mushroom so right in here is deficiency
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so I'm going to pound that out a little
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more and I've done that a little bit all
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along
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here and then you pound it for a second
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and then you give it a good
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observation um the panel still has a
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little going like this which means it's
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going to need a little more work right
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in here I might be able to do that with
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the
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wheel all right so I'm Wheeling out all
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those little Hammer marks every once in
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a while I'll come down here and I'll
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pull up on it because I don't want this
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thing turning this way I want that nice
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and straight so I had a I still had a
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little concave in here so I kind of
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addressed the whole region there was a
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few little spots but also the whole
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region still needed that little bit of
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attention
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so I'm I'm getting it better and better
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and I'm hting sitting here thinking
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I don't know if I've mentioned it but I
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have Stuart Brown from uh Dorset England
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Dorset County England it's in the uh
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Southwestern Corner lowest section of
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England he's coming over like the first
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the end of the first week of uh of
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November and he's bringing his
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scanner he's got a unbelievable scanner
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and he has the software that you need
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with a scan like that and he scanned
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cars all over the world with that
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scanner and some of the most valuable
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cars and he's coming over for some
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lessons from me and uh he's offered to
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scan anybody's car that's in the local
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so if you're within 100 miles of my shop
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and you want to bring your car down to
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be scanned he's offering the scanning
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surface service for a very reasonable
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price that is in 50 bucks uh you know it
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is in 5,000 it's uh very reasonable for
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a super professional scanning service
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and he'll turn it into files and you'll
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have the files after it's scanned and
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he's done the vid uh the the cad work on
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the AI Al recreated uh the AI Alpha all
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into a 3D CAD program and uh he sells
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plans for bucks all over the world and
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uh he's probably going to give a couple
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good vid make a couple videos with me
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and it's going to be very interesting
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when he comes over so I like to do a lot
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more of that collaborating with various
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people with different skill sets or even
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the same skill set um in the in the
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comment section Ron Cavell always gives
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me a pad on the back for my work and I
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said R Ron we got to come and maybe uh
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he could come here and we could do a
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collaboration on something but he didn't
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get back to me I'm hoping maybe he'll
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see this and maybe he'll get back to me
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I think it' be a lot of
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fun so we're
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just lightly Wheeling this again
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blending everything together and then
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we're going to offer it up to the buck
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real soon here it's starting to flow
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pretty nice as far as all the lumps are
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gone
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and again all of this work is
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unnecessary that we did in this video
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series if you take the step when you
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build the panel all baby steps and don't
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get too rambunctious you won't make this
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mistake and you won't have to do all
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these these uh fixes that I have had to
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do but the video series that we've done
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on this panel I think is invaluable for
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a lot of people that um it's it's very
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common to make all those
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mistakes and then they they panic and
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they want to start all over again and if
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you start all over again without
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understanding what you did you you could
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just repeat the M the the series of
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mistakes again and then have two bad
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panels and that could be like two days
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work and then you get so frustrated you
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think oh boy I I can never do this but
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um I'm convinced that anybody can do it
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as long as they got pretty good hand eye
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coordination they can do it right now
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this panel is pretty sweet it's it's
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flowing really nice I got a beautiful
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curve here um there's like I said a few
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spots maybe like 4,000 of an inch low
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and maybe another spot that's 4,000 of
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an inch
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high if it's low you can develop it up
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to the to where it's supposed to be the
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perfect true surface if it's if it's
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high you can shrink it back and you can
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shrink it back I have a new shrinking
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disc that I use on Strictly on aluminum
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it doesn't scratch the aluminum or
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anything and we'll be showing that in
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use soon on one of these panels and uh
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right now I've got it clamped on there
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and Mack can can kind of maneuver around
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and I'll explain the process of how I
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got the panel to where it is right now
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so Mark's just going to show it a little
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bit we got uh a super volunteer Frank
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who's no longer with us but we try to
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keep him in all the videos still he's
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helping us
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out so Marx's maneuvering the camera
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around showing that panel and flat
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panels are one of the most difficult
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panels to do and this panel based on the
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wireform now remember the wire form was
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done by I the wire formed these this has
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a station here a station here a station
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here and a station here so four stations
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and these pretty much line up but then
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it comes down here about a half an inch
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maybe 5/8 of an inch tip in where it
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ties in with this
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tail and uh as I was working on the
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panel I was trying to get all this
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touching totally in the back and mocking
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poke around in the back here that it's
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away from the two two wires a little bit
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up at the top here I I came to the
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conclusion that it really needed a
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little flow going like this because this
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panel looks really good and it doesn't
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have any any oil can or anything it's a
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nice solid panel there's still a tiny
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little bit of Live Edge on the bottom
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but again uh when I weld that that's
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going to shrink in and that won't be a
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problem and this hasn't been buffed what
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you're seeing exactly how it comes out
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of the English wheel if you have your
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English Wheels all polished up and and
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and set up really nice with the buffer
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we did a video on how to tune and buff
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your English wheels go back on my
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YouTube site and you can find that video
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If you haven't watched it yet but it's
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really easy to tune up your your anvils
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and your top wheel and then polish them
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to a high polish because what happens
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when you wheel you're printing the
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Polish that's on the top wheel onto the
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panel and it Buffs it up like this and
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this is why I like an English wheel
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versus a power hammer so I I made an
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anchoring system here I put a couple
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Vice scripts on the wire
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for so those are homes now usually I
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just use a couple Mark magic marker
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lines to home it but I've got these
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Anchor Point so I can take the panel off
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and put it right back at the exact same
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Anchor Point every single time and when
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you Wheeling this uh it's
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really uh real low pressure and you've
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got to find where your your defects are
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so often times when I'm wheeling in the
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when I have it in the wheel like this I
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hold it like this and I let the panel
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talk to me and I can still see a few
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little spots there's a spot here and a
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spot here that are a little deficient
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but the you know primer will will fix
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those a lot of guys will file that and
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they'll file away the tops the highs
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spot tops and and that makes a low spot
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or a thin spot in the material um if any
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car you're going to be building or
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cleaning up or restoring or whatever
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making panels you see a lot of these
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very expensive cars that are restored
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and then they Bondo skim the entire car
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and then board file it well that takes a
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lot of time to do and it makes a big
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mess in the shop if you do the work on
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the wheel and get everything smooth
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first you don't you can skip that step
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totally highb Build primer on this is
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for all you would need that's it so as
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I'm Wheeling I keep checking like you
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have to put it in the light many many
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different ways and then
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look I look at it and it it it looks
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like Flawless but then you bring it over
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here I made this little stand like this
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I just put it this is a couple milk
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crates sitting on top of one another
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with a blanket and you put it on there
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and then you walk 20 ft away and you
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look at the panel and the panel looks
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like a bulldozer ran over it so it still
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has some imperfections that I can see
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when I walk 20 ft away so but those will
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all go out with a block sand I could
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spend another hour uh going crazy on it
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with and the wheel I'm using too you
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look at that Anvil this Anvil has like a
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3/4 interface on it so it's a 3/4 inch
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wide um contact area that's where all
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the work happens I would like to I
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probably should knock these off a little
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bit more on the edges and that will give
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you the ability to go through a panel
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that has a little more crown and still
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have the the advantage of of having that
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wider contact area and uh again this is
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an advantage of the big wide wheels you
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have that real estate to play with to
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make sure that you get a really nice
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surface if you're working with a 2-in
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wide wheel trying to do a surface like
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that on a large panel that's very very
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difficult to do so as you can see once
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you get the panel done you get that
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really solid feel about
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it look I Just Dance the panel around
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you can see it looks pretty good and
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then when you bring it over and offer it
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up to the
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buck you know there's no T no tension in
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the panel there it is it's on there so
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that's about it that's the wrap up for
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this finale for The Master class of
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English wheel finessing a panel thanks
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for watching it's raelene from Pro
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shaper Workshop in Charlton
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Massachusetts