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So Steve, we talked about networking, LinkedIn company culture
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But do you think that there's other tips that you can give to job seekers before even applying
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for a job? Is there any plan do you have that can be useful to them? Yes
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The first thing I want to say here is that sometimes to get the perfect job requires
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you to have the imperfect job. And sometimes good environments are what you should strive for, not good jobs
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So if you believe that this is a good place, go do something there and they will find you
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And if you're good, they will find you good work. And sometimes people feel like, oh, I'm not going to do that job because I don't know
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those things. I don't have those skills. I'm not even going to apply
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Well, understand that most recruiters today know that whatever the job they post, they're
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probably going to find someone with 60% or 70. So don't rule yourself out and don't say, well, I don't want to do that because that's boring
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Every job has boring, but you know, hopefully it's not too much boring, but you never know
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that job could lead you to something really great if it's a good organization
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So the imperfect job sometimes will get you the perfect job. And that could be an internship
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It could be a co-op. It could be part time. It could be an independent contractor
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You never know. And some of what I'm seeing my friends do is have several contractor jobs because what
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you do there, and there's a great book out there by John Arms around, you know, trying
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to be a contractor. He gives you all these good descriptions of what you can do
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But when you're a contractor, you get to like try the company out. Do I like this
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Do I like the people? Do I like the culture? Do I like how they treat me? And then, you know, that way you don't have to accept the job and then realize, oh my
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gosh, I don't like it here. What am I going to do now? And when you're a contractor, there's no requirement that you stay
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So that's probably the best advice I have for people is. And the second thing is big mistake, especially young job seekers make, which is I like the product
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It must be a great company. No, because the company is making a good product does not mean they're a good place to work for
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And I will, with all respect, talk about TikTok and ByteDance. People love using TikTok
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Working for that company right now, very, very, very different experience. A lot of people unhappy, a lot of people quitting, a lot of people not being treated the way
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they thought they should be treated. Because you like the product doesn't mean it's a great place to work
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Be very careful. Some of the best work I ever did was companies no one ever heard of
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And so and that means me to the last quick point, which is your job, your first few jobs
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doesn't define who you are as a person. It doesn't. It's a starting point and a career, really
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And no one wants to say this, but I'm going to just be honest. A career is an experiment
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We don't know what we like to do. We don't know where we want to work, the kind of work we want to do, because we've never
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tried it. And you won't know until you try. We're only going to be alive so many years, so you can only try so many things
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It doesn't mean that you're a good person or bad person or people are going to just
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go out there and start trying stuff. And you're going to learn the places that really inspire you
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Those are great tips, Steve. I really enjoyed it. I hope the job seekers will implement
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So tune in tomorrow for my final question with Steve
