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Okay, in the new episode of Denim and
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Leather podcast, we have my friend Tlis
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Meccas from Leatherhead Band
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and the one that is making the interview
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is the fantastic the most fantastic
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drummer of the Balkans of that band, of
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Yeah. Thank you, Ro. Thank you for
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having me. I'm very glad to talk to you
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again. It's uh fantastic talking to you.
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Uh congratulations for the great uh
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podcast you have, the great job you
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have. Uh it's very entertaining for us
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as metal fans to watch it, you know,
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every time and be a part of it now.
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Yeah, man. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks to you
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for accepting the offer to be at at the
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my pleasure. My pleasure.
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How uh I wanted to ask you before we go
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go into Leatherhead, when did you start
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when did you start singing?
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Singing well uh in the my first steps I
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wasn't uh singing purely you know it
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wasn't that kind of singing as it is
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now. I was doing uh thrust death metal
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with my first band exector
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about 2008. I was very young back then
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about uh 15 years old and after that we
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had two albums with that band. I entered
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uh by accident the voice part of Murder
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Angels my second band because I was
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playing bass there. Uh I entered by
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accident because our uh
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then singer left the group. So no one
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else could uh even talk to the
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microphone. So I did it, you know, and
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uh now it's been 10 years that I sing uh
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with a clean voice, you know, 10 11
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So you started singing heavy?
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Heavy. Yeah. But uh with a clean voice
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because you can sing heavy with a raspy
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and uh harsh voice but uh not anymore
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for me. Yeah. The last 10 years it's
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Yeah. When I when I hear you sing u uh I
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I I immediately have like a you know it
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reminds me on on Asian steel or or bands
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Yeah. Well, uh, we had the John series
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here for the show of Agent Steel as they
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are now here in my city, Larissa. Well,
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uh, specifically Agent Steel is the
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reason why I started singing because,
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it's it's a I listened to listened to
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that and I was like, [ __ ] what's that?
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It's metal but with a fantastic voice,
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you know, high pitched voice and it was
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like a breaking point. After that, I was
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I was like that. Yeah. I changed
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Yeah. I think that uh bands that did
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that maybe before even uh were maybe
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from the same time Overkill were you
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know like trash with with with with
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Uh course. Yeah. and maybe and of course
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Blitz and Jeladon are one of ones of my
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singers, but especially the energy
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Overkill have on stage. It's like, you
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know, it's uh what we want to do with my
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Yeah. With Le Kid, we want that, you
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know, that energy. Uh the great when you
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bands like Overkill Live, you think that
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you you will see them for the first time
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and maybe you will see them for the 10th
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time, but it's like the first time every
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you did you see them.
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I've seen the video. I'm waiting. This
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happened. I I saw them I I saw them uh
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24 years ago in 2001 in uh in in
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Budapest on Zigg Festival and uh and I
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and I've met them and I have a a picture
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selfie with with with Blitz with Bobby
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Yeah. Blitz is is a god, man. He's a
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god. And they kicked us back then. They
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kick us still kick us now. Blitz is a
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cancer survivor. He's like a, you know,
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a superhuman. He's like in his 60s, 65
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maybe. And he's like a like a beast on
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stage. I I really love him. I would like
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to meet him too. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh then then
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how did you get into Leatherhead or did
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you form Leatherhead?
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Well, uh it was uh sometime before the
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corona virus outbreak that uh I left my
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last band uh Murder Angels. Uh it wasn't
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uh it was for personal reasons only uh
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that I left them and uh my purpose was
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to form something uh uh completely mine
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something that I would feel free with my
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friends to play the music I want and uh
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that's what happened with Leatherhead.
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Uh we had many lineup changes. I started
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the band with the drummer Mike. Uh after
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that uh George entered uh uh the other
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bands, the other mates entered and uh
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now we have uh a last lineup change was
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uh last week in our last week. So uh now
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we are stronger than ever. I think we
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are ready to kick some ass in uh
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everywhere everywhere they call us. And
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uh this summer we will start uh
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recording our uh second album.
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Oh, awesome man. So uh uh did you did
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you have did you have uh before the
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album you had some EP or no?
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Yeah, we had a single. It was uh from a
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a recording type of company because it
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was not it was very relaxed situation
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you know a type of company that it
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doesn't exist uh now so it's like uh you
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it's uh it's nowhere to be found the
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physical copy but we had it on CD it was
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a single of two tracks uh the name was
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Tomahawk it was uh released in uh 2002.
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It was with our first basist uh Pericles
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who left uh for Germany and after
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Pericles we uh uh took ways with George
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who is the current basist the last years
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and is a fantastic best player. Everyone
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is a fantastic player in the band. Yeah.
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But you had Tomahawk released on CD
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On CD. Yeah. because uh the the idea was
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to release it uh to just have a release,
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you know. So, it was only two tracks. We
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made it as a single. It's only a CD. Uh
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maybe in the future we can do it on a 7
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in uh V vinyl or something.
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So, after that you you you started
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recording the the album. Was it a long
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process of recording the album? Well, it
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was a very hard process because uh uh we
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uh focused on one what we do but uh
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sometimes because uh uh we cannot fit
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our musical you know uh hobbies with uh
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our uh real life jobs. It's very a lot
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of time to be done like uh we had uh it
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was a whole summer it started 2 years
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ago from today or it was it was one week
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later but 2 years ago and uh it was
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finished completely on September. So it
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it went very slow because uh some songs
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were uh written uh at the last minute.
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Uh some others were uh uh were worked
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very very well, were played very well.
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Some others were just uh something new
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for the band. But uh the result was
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fantastic. And uh this happened uh
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he has a great uh part in that. the guy
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who uh produced the album, the guy who
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was uh behind the console
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uh who is uh George from Coyote Studios.
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He was fantastic. He made a great job
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and uh we had the best result I think.
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That that co studio is in your city,
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We did it. Everything
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is made in Larissa. uh apart from the
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the mastering and uh which uh was made
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on Eio Anina and in Germany by B Gabriel
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uh the Greek guy uh the one made for CD
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and the other made for uh the vinyl
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So awesome. So So uh on the first album
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and you already have a vinyl release,
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Yeah. And you can see here it's the
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third uh the third press of our vinyl.
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It's this one is urush. Don't look at
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that. It's for rurush.
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So it's so get get it a little bit
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higher. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Like that. So uh this one uh is on a
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marble uh silver uh color.
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Wow. Man, it looks awesome.
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Yeah. Uh we have uh we had uh 200 black
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ones and uh uh we had also some blue
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uh it was very you know limited edition.
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This one is in 500 copies. So
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yeah we we are waiting for it to you
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are are the other two uh rounds sold out
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Yes it's not available anymore. uh many
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uh two pressings of CDs are also not
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available. It's it went pretty well for
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uh uh first album. It was we are very
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satisfied. The our company No Remorse is
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very satisfied. We are uh totally are
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going to work again with them and they
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are going to work again with us.
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It's called No Remorse Records.
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No Remorse Records. Yeah.
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So it's a it's a Greek company.
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It's a Greek company but uh it has some
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with uh uh with high roller
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records from Germany. So yeah the
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distribution in Germany went fantastic.
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Germany is one of the uh the best
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countries for leatherhead you know and
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we are looking forward to play there. Uh
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it will happen at the 30 and 30th of
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May. So you sold you sold a lot of
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copies there in Germany.
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Yeah. Yeah. It went very well.
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It's pretty exciting because German
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people know about, you know, met.
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When when are you playing? You're
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Yeah. Yeah. On the last on the on the
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Ah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Which which city?
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It's outside Moonhan. Uh it's a uh uh
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what's the name? Headbuggers open air.
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It's a festival. Okay.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. An open air test.
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Wow man. You going to you going to fly?
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Youard midnight. It has many great names
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from TR uh black scene, heavy metal
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scene. It's uh it's very good. Very
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You going to you going to fly there or
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you going to drive there?
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We will fly and I hope we won't lose the
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the airplane because uh I'm not very
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good with flights, you know.
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I I always I'm always running to catch a
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So, it will be it will be our first uh
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show outside of Greece or No.
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Well, it will be our second because uh
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we played the first one in Bulgaria.
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It was about 2 years ago. Uh but uh it
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was many many months or maybe one year
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and a half before the release. So okay
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uh it was a starting point for the band.
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We played as a forum. Now we're
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queen dead five people, two guitars.
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Then back then it was only one guitar.
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So it was much different.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you as I saw you
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to you toured all around Greece. I mean
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we we played a lot of shows. Yeah. Yeah.
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And we are ready to play even more. We
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we love playing uh live shows. It's I
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think it's the purpose of that music and
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I think you will you will be with me in
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the purpose of heavy metal is playing
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live. You know that as a musician I
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the connection
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with the audience right uh right away.
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Yeah. that can can make your mood and
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give you a new life, you know, an alter
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ego. It's something uh something else.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What are you what are
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you doing with the next record? You you
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mentioned to me that you're planning a
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Of course. Yeah. First of all, we had
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the lineup change. Uh we our guitarist
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in the first release is Zach left the
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band and now we um uh Uh Jim Demetrius
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Commino joined forces with us. Dimitris
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is a longtime friend. I know him more
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than 10 years or maybe 12. I don't we
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played again in another band with him
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uh thrust metal band from Larissa and uh
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he's a fantastic player, a fantastic guy
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and uh I think he will make an impact.
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Also the other guitarist Thanos will
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make also an impact because we have many
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songs from Thanos too now. So it will be
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much more quantity you know in the
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writing process. We have uh uh everyone
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has their parts and uh I think it would
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be even uh better than the first one. It
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has a lot of speed. It has mid tempos.
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It has everything a very much of uh
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quantity and I think better quality at
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So you already have all the songs?
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Yeah. Uh well we have uh we didn't
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rehearse uh all the songs. We only
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rehearsed uh four of the nine songs or
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10 maybe. I don't know. Uh it depends on
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uh the time we will have uh for the
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recording and the with the new member.
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you know, it needs a lot of time to uh I
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mean stick together.
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I mean, you have all all the new songs
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about the the the full new album, right?
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almost ready. Yeah, almost ready. Apart
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from some uh some lyrics and some guitar
15:44
parts, everything is almost ready. Yeah.
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But not rehearsed yet.
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Awesome. That's going to be that's going
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to be released also on vinyl.
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I I hope so. depends on the on no
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remorse but uh uh judging from the first
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one we had the best connection we work
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very well so I'm pretty sure it will be
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man maybe you will sell out platinum now
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I don't think so but it would be great
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why not we can we can uh you know we can
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yeah yeah yeah but it will go. Uh I I I
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wish it go Germany and and all of
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Europe, you know, to to to be sold good,
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you know. Maybe maybe you can do a maybe
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you plan on doing European tour or no.
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Well, I will tell you uh the problem
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with uh touring is that uh it needs a
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lot of money nowadays. just to go to a
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show. It's it needs a lot of money like
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uh it's like investment for a band but
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uh you need a big uh amount of money to
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So it's not in our uh our uh plans right
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now because uh our uh uh main plan is to
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produce good music and after that maybe
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we can do something like that. We can
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think about it. But in every
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the other month maybe
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there is like there is like one uh one
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thing that I I was kind of uh bothered
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by that uh when when there's big huge
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names like huge metal names they offer
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some smaller bands to pay for the tour
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you know you pay them money so they take
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you to tour I I don't like that. I
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dislike that idea, you know. It's like a
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uh well, my opinion is that uh because
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we live in uh the 21st century, well,
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music is always is everywhere and it's
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free. So, uh the companies won't give
18:02
you money to tour. That's that's a fact.
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So the bands have to the big even bands
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the even the big ones have to do
18:12
something to earn some money apart from
18:14
the shows because you have many money to
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give uh much money to give uh uh on the
18:21
tour uh for the bass for the guys that
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will help you the stuff you know uh so
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everything goes uh not well for the uh
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for with the small bands like us because
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uh it's too much money to do that. Uh
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it's like an industry so we cannot tell
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it's good or bad. It's the way it is
18:46
right now. Unfortunately or fortunately
18:48
for some other people it goes like that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you know
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I don't like it either. I would love to
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for someone to call me and tell me okay
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But it's it's not that diffic it's not
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that easy. It's it's much more
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complicated. Yeah, but it's kind of
19:05
weird, you know, to to to pay to play. I
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mean, uh I don't know.
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I wouldn't do that now. I wouldn't do
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that. I don't have the money to do that.
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uh I think it's it doesn't worth it
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because you give uh like
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a car for playing uh 10 12 20 shows, I
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Yeah. Uh, and you you just give them a
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car or a small house maybe. I don't
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And the other month, uh, you don't have
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that money and you don't have live
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shows. You just have in your resume that
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you played with the one band or the
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I saw I saw a very I I saw a very
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interesting concept of one label. Uh I
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think it was in England or I don't know
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it was European. So they what they did
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they have a they have a band on a roster
20:06
you know it was like it was not metal
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but it was some kind of rock band
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and they uh you know what they what they
20:12
did as a commercial they were they were
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uh uh they got the gigs for the band
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like for a whole uh 200 people or 100
20:23
people of a venue and they pay for all
20:26
of the tickets you know and they say the
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show is sold out you know but the label
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does that and it does that on a few on a
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and then when the when when when the
20:38
word is out that the band sells out then
20:40
they ask for the band from the other
20:42
venues or from the other promoters they
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ask okay these are selling out so we can
20:46
now call them and that's like a like a
20:48
new thing happening you know but
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yeah man but the the the label invests
20:55
like for a few sold out shows it buys
20:57
every ticket you know so the band plays
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That's awful. I wouldn't play. I
21:07
But they do they do that as a concept.
21:10
They do it as a concept and then it it
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returns to them a lot, you know.
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Yes. Yes. I don't that's that's not the
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concept of music from the beginning.
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It's very weird promotion, you know.
21:24
We live in very weird times, man. So,
21:27
nothing surprises me anymore. It's like
21:31
you can you can expect everything from
21:34
everyone. It's like nothing to it has
21:38
nothing to do with the way we
21:40
romanticize that music
21:42
and music by itself, you know. It's
21:44
everything is different. I don't know.
21:46
Yeah. Like it's not it's not art
21:50
Well, yeah. It's it's complicated. But
21:53
fortunately, we we we our music is
21:58
produces new talents. So, I think it's I
22:02
don't know. It's it's more pure like
22:04
that. I don't know. I maybe I'm wrong,
22:08
No, you're you're right. You're right.
22:10
Because uh as long as you as long as we
22:13
do the do music, you know, like uh now I
22:16
faced the reality that that I'm not
22:18
going to live from my music, you know, I
22:20
got to work something else.
22:22
You you you too. But uh but uh you can
22:26
always do it as a hobby and be satisfied
22:28
with your art, you know.
22:31
Yes, of course. Of course. It's it's
22:33
always a hobby. But uh we do it you can
22:35
do it with so much love that it's it has
22:38
to be done correctly and uh it's like a
22:40
job. Yeah. But you don't get paid
22:43
but it's okay because it's okay. Yeah.
22:46
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a do it yourself
22:49
kind of kind of thing. Uh,
22:53
leave and let die. It's sad. Yeah, [ __ ]
22:56
it. [ __ ] everything. Yeah, we will do
22:58
What are your future plans music wise?
23:02
Music-wise, we are uh uh expect for the
23:07
album that we are preparing.
23:10
Uh we are uh planning to play
23:12
everywhere. Uh me personally, I have
23:16
some uh plans for the next albums
23:19
like uh some concepts. We may have a
23:23
concept album in the future. It would be
23:25
the maybe one of the first uh Speed
23:28
Metal concept albums or something. Uh we
23:31
want to uh take the leatherhead story,
23:35
the one we uh presented uh from three
23:38
songs in the first album and make it a
23:41
whole album uh like the the second part
23:44
of it because now we are in the in the
23:46
prequel or something and now we want to
23:49
make it like a movie, you know. It would
23:51
be fantastic to do something like that,
23:53
a concept album. It's like a pure
23:56
statement of the artist, you know,
23:59
musically, it's like seeing a movie.
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Uh, it's I think it's uh the biggest
24:07
thing we can do as a band is that and
24:10
maybe we can reach it on the third
24:12
album. It's that's the plan. Uh, I'm
24:16
trying to figure out the story and uh
24:19
trying to get some music from the guys,
24:21
get some music of mine and uh we will
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make it. I'm sure we will make it.
24:26
Oh, that that sounds fantastic, man. I
24:30
Yeah, maybe maybe a comic book or
24:32
something. I will I we have many ideas,
24:35
but uh we need uh you know, first things
24:38
first, we have to have the stuff first.
24:41
we have to have the songs, the tracks
24:43
first and then everything will take its
24:46
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It will it will
24:48
happen if you have the idea. So, uh
24:51
Okay. I wish you all the best in
24:53
recording the new album and with touring
24:55
and with playing and thank you for being
24:59
uh my guest on the show.
25:01
It was my pleasure. It will it will
25:04
always be my pleasure talking to you.
25:06
And uh I just want to tell everyone that
25:11
uh you are the greatest guy because they
25:14
only know you from podcast. I know you
25:17
very well and I hope we will talk again
25:21
Yeah, we will. We will when it comes out
25:22
we will do it again. Thanks, man.
25:24
Fantastic. Thank you very much. My