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Incendar Plays Shroud of the Avatar: Forsaken Virtues DETAILED First Impressions the Good and Bad!
Nov 28, 2024
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TLDV: Had a blast I am from older school RPGS like TES and Eq2 and Vanguard Saga of Heroes, etc.! Id say this game is alot like TES and Runescape, but the reaility is those games are derivative from UO and RG! Just make sure to have a top end pc and (most) of the optimization issues will be gone!
Hey youtube Indendar here!
today in the continuation of my golden age of mmo series where I try out all the MMOS
currently available and make some first impression videos.
Today we have shroud of the avatar, which was a kickstarter game with somewhat low publicity.
It is currently offering a free trial which can can downloaded and you can start playing imeedietly to see for yourself.
The trail only limits how high your skills can go and disables trade between players, but I feel you can test out all the game systems mechanics and gameplay to see if it's something you can get into. Will put direct link below in comments.
This is just first impressions and what I experienced in about 16 hours of gameplay I plan to contiue with another vid with a more in depth look in the future.
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yeah give me a second I'm coming up with
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30 to 0.33 uh repeating of course
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percentage of survival oh that's really
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better than we usually do instead of
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gaming secrets the planets stick to
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plant ads ads stick to the plan
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Avery Avery divine intervention divine
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intervention
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stick the plan stick to the plan
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John stick to the plan okay least I got
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chicken hey you too Ben send our here
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today in the continuation of my Golden
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Age of MMO series where I try out all
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these currently available MMOs and make
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some first impression videos we have
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shroud of the avatar this is a
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Kickstarter game with a somewhat low
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publicity it is currently offering a
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free trial which you can download and
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start immediately to see for yourself
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this trial only limits how high your
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skills can go and disables trade between
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players but I feel you can still test up
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all the major game systems mechanics and
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gameplay and see if it's something you
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can get into or not we'll put a direct
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link below in the description this is
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just in a first impression video and
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what I experienced in about 16 hours of
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gameplay I do plan to continue playing
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and make another vid with them a little
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more depth of the note is this game was
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developed by Richard Garriott and portal
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areum this is the same guy who brought
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us Ultima Online and actually coined the
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term MMORPG so he's been around for a
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bit of a while richard is also said to
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be somewhat eccentric in nature I've
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even heard that he has a guy who
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actually plays the lute when he's doing
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his development work but really what's
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wrong with that I've actually thought of
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doing that on YouTube myself if I had a
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larger discretionary budget okay one
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thing I want to point out today and this
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seems to put off a lot of players who
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try this this game has an extremely high
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hardware requirement here are my current
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specs in the bottom left this is almost
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a brand new PC and although the game ran
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great for me with steady FPS for the
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most part I have to wonder what would
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happen if I first played this on my on
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my last PC so with RAM right away we
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started out using when we start the game
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5 gig
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and it just goes up from there expect
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crashes and issues on anything less than
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16 which I also did test at eight there
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was a lot of crashes if you have issues
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with optimizations in a game like video
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this one is even more demanding you'll
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need a fast CPU tons of RAM modern GPU
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and I recommend an SSD to reduce the
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loading times this game house okay just
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starting out here the first feeling I
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get is this is like something like
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between I don't know if it's between
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Marwin in oblivion and more oblivion
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between Skyrim but I'm getting the Elder
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Scrolls feeling everything's
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interactable books mugs spoons forks
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knives tons of dead bodies everywhere
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everything you can just loot I kind of
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liked in those games where you just loot
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forever and steal stuff right away I
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noticed the skill system isn't
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class-based it's I've got heals I've got
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fire obviously for in send are some
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other your night vision I think thing
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here and oh okay I can light my sword on
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fire for extra damage it's definitely a
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plus for me here okay my screen might be
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green in a couple of clips here but it's
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that's a night vision thing that just
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helps you see at night nights can be
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very dark but here's more of the Elder
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Scrolls I was talking about at least how
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it's feeling to me yeah I can read the
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books and also pick them up for my OCD
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compulsive disorder and fill up my bags
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so I'm overweight and running them back
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to town for some reason they did a lot
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in the other scroll games and this has
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that too and if you're a fan of
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steampunk there's a lot of that in the
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game you'll notice here on the left of
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the path is piping there's electricity
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airships radios capacitors all kinds of
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steampunk stuff so I think steampunk
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fans will really enjoy that part
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you can't gather in this game it has a
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pretty deep gathering system expect to
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use some combat though anytime I went
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for a tree he or caught it yeah I didn't
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see any mobs around but sure enough it
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would almost always turn into a conflict
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and of course if you're going for hides
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you're gonna have to kill the stuff
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you're going after and it probably
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determines what value it has another
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interesting thing here is that NPCs all
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fight each other you can use that to
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your advantage as you've seen here so we
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got this guy he's coming to help and oh
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and centaur here yeah it's quite a
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day-to-day freaking bear
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called my mother cinder Digital
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Montaigne
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okay you got pretty much your standard
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gathering here lumbering acts for trees
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pickaxe whatnot you start out with some
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where you can buy them from NPCs one
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thing to note here about the trees is
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they're kind of different from all the
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other ones they look a little red or you
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can see the stumps if somebody already
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cut them down or is a little more
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difficult there's many different
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varieties and how it looks it actually
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looks like what the item is so veins
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will look like veins of ore like copper
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iron gold whatnot
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those would be a little different if
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something just sitting on the up and
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like this salt mine okay I think moving
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on mines absolved you'll notice I think
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at least for my experience a lot of
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times you have to have some combat if
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you're going to be just gathering only
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because you get attacked quite often and
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of course the best items in the game are
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all crafted and I didn't really get into
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this maybe more and more in the future
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but it all player provided okay for the
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skill system in this it's it reminded me
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a lot of Elder Scrolls a couple other
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people I started with said it reminds
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them of more of a runescape type game
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but pretty much you get level up skills
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as you use them you're not forced into
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any set classes so there's like no
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paladins or set mage or healers or
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whatever although you can do all that
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stuff you can mix-and-match to how you
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want it to be so you notice I have a
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bunch of fire a healing spell some
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subgroup fuge for night vision cuz it
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gets pretty dark
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let's see also um dodge skill some light
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you mix and match whatever you want and
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you'll notice it has the basic stuff
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shield pull arms heavy armor bludgeon
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and range light armor blades and then
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you've got magic I'm going into fire
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magic which is the opposite of water and
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that's this has to do with some of the
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attunement thing here you'll notice as
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you get more skills in one thing as far
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as the magic you'll get a tune mint so
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it you become stronger and that specific
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one the higher it gets and these
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conflict with each other - like water
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fire can conflict Sun and Moon air
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earth-death life and I don't really know
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too much about chaos I haven't really
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gotten into this like I said this is
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gonna be like a huge in-depth thing
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today this is just pretty much getting
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started just so you know what's going on
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another big thing is um you might feel
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like you're moving really slow and
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everything's kind of like you know kind
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of crappy in the beginning that you can
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upgrade a movement speed that'll make
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that better there's also one in here for
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fall damage I highly recommend I'll show
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you why in a second tactics you'll
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notice a strength which increases your
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care
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in capacity and some other stuff and
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then encumbrance so you got to kind of
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look through these trees and find the
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stuff you want obviously I wanted more
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weight another thing I than the reason I
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left this open over here is because you
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can see training skills is quite
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involved too at first you might not know
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what these things are but um you can
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click these arrows and that red down is
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you want to forget the skill Green is
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you want to keep going with it and then
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I think the minus sign is just stay
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where it is or lock it in and these are
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the skills you can take up to fifty in
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the free version of the game seve plenty
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of time to test out tons of builds and
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you know not have to buy the game until
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you're sure plenty of time for that and
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this gets a lot more in-depth than its
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more than I'm gonna do today but maybe
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in some future videos okay one of the
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things that kind of got me a little
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craziness was the mini-map being a
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little unresponsive I was told in a
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stream that this is being worked upon
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and will be improved at a future date so
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I'll look forward to that just a just a
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minor gripe on my part okay another
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thing a lot of people seem to have
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trouble with is the loading screen this
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can be increased with SSD of course or
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increasing your harddrive speed for me
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it was a 10 to 15 second I mean that's
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understandable when you play it if you
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remember Skyrim or Oblivion when he
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entered houses there was loading screens
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and the reason for that is there's
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hundreds and thousands of items floating
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around so it kind of has to do it I know
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some people get 30 seconds to a minute
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but you just need a faster harddrive
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basically and this here when I'm running
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around is actually the overworld which I
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want to show you really quick to get
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between two cities or two locations you
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can actually switch to this great
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overview map and run between them and
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know the world from what I've
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experienced so far is really huge like a
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massively huge and of course there's
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like little player towns and all kinds
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of stuff but this is this is something
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I've been seen in a while on a game and
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I actually really like it one thing to
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keep an eye out on your adventures is
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watch for these skeletons typically
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whenever you see a lot of these things
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well just get ready for trouble in this
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case the problem was I think that the
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mechanics on this ramp actually kill you
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when you fall off them so rather than us
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face that death I just decided you know
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it's probably gonna be quicker to get to
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the ground if I just jump off of here
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and die and oh look there's someone
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else's skeleton who did the exact same
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thing and always watch out when you see
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a group of skeletons here I can tell
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right away
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there's some reason why there's a pile
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of skeletons there okay get to the top
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another interesting thing here is the
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chest turns into a monster and tries to
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kill me okay that's wonderful I still
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have the idea that something Bad's up
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sure enough take the ladder and I did
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have the skill I think to reduce fall
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damage so I lived but you have to watch
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out for this all the time in this game
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so in my trial here I also attempted to
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do the main quest and I ran into some
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trouble
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luckily hospitality effected came to my
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rescue to help me unfortunately I don't
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have the record of what happened to us
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initially but I believe it went
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something along the lines of me pulling
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every mob in the dungeon and having
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defected killed and then me being killed
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anyway that I really wanted to say
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thanks to defected for helping me out
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here
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hospitalities are people in game that
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will come and help you through material
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I did get him killed and probably took
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about two hours of his time in this in
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this ill-fated quest huh we were
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successful but I believe this question
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on um here's some mining you can do
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again like what I was saying earlier
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with the with the gathering it looks
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like these areas are pretty well
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protected with mobs so you're probably
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gonna have to have some combat here for
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this you can see it's like we're going
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into this dungeon we had to break some
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some stones to actually continue along
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on our journey and the whole time we
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were just trying to find one piece of
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ore for requests and you can see it
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isn't marked or anything it's kind of
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like just like okay find some more
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luckily you know we did find some stuff
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on Google and eventually we found the
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bandit king and we killed him and he had
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the or this whole thing though there was
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a lot of group dynamics you know I was
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doing the fire mage thing defected was
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doing the healing I did feel that I was
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on an adventure I mean I didn't know
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what the hell was going on and obviously
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I got us killed again everything's
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interactive I just took a nap here an
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interesting thing at the end here
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defected actually pulls out a harp and
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starts playing a song in real time I
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thought that was uh you know really I
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saw more this with more instruments
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later anyway okay we're leaving the
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dungeon and I'm waiting for him and on
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his loading screen and this happens and
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death
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this game you don't face real this game
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this game face roll you one of the
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strongest parts of this game was
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actually in my opinion the player
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housing I've got a real sense of
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community the land you can actually
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purchase his deeds to put your house on
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which is a separate item you can put
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these in MPC towns but players also have
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their own individual player own towns or
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pots I was pretty taken aback by how
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much effort people put into their houses
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just in this first starter city I was at
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Erie I want to thank everybody for
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letting me run around their house a
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couple of the things that I really found
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impressive was everything's interactive
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I actually used the camera took a
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picture in front of the houses a lot of
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people have NPCs that do things for you
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or sell goods I assume that's where they
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sell their wares when they're afk and
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whatnot some of these houses are just
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freaking huge a lot of different artwork
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obviously a lot of time has put into
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this I can see the community gets really
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into this definitely the strongest part
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of the game again I was on the harp you
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can actually play these I was also told
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you can import music to have played as
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well not too sure about that I wasn't
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very good at this so I'll save you that
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misery anyway again lots of more stuff
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to interact with a lot of the steampunk
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stuff I saw on a lot of the different
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houses a lot of attention to detail on
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the stuff so I think if you're into this
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sort of thing I kind of it's kind of
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like more like The Sims here was a house
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that was open with tons of all the
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different crafting machinery that you
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can use for crafting III apparently I
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could use it which is pretty great you
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can see the guy has all his different
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wares here I guess he sells these so you
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can take a look at them and see what
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they actually look like pretty pretty
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cool and then the best house ever you
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might have been familiar with killer
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rabbits from lots of games like even Wow
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or maybe other Altimas or something
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these are in lots of games this guy made
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a shrine to the killer blood rabbits and
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I just thought this was the greatest
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house I've ever seen and what's even
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scarier is these things are probably
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actually taking from these mobs in the
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game so if nothing else I'm going to
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play and find those cuz those look crazy
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so here we go in a player own town I
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just wanted to show you it's another
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basic series it's this is pretty much
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just people doing whatever they want you
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can see there is a jukebox
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airship one thing I found interesting I
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went up to radio and it actually had
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local stations broadcasting like I just
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thought that was really interesting but
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yeah you can get kind of a feel for okay
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so this will be an attempted quick
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summary of the game it's this is an
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extremely large game I did play for 16
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hours this could be extremely more
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detailed I always hated people on
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YouTube that would do an MMO review and
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say oh I played five or ten hours or
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whatever and I kind of feel the same
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here but this isn't a review it's just
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my first impressions and thoughts so
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keep that in mind
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old-school RPG fans I mean I don't even
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probably have to say anything just try
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it out if you like the older you know
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EverQuest EverQuest - Vanguard saga here
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is that kind of stuff it's like that
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being updated with with the development
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team you'll probably really get into
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this life skills are pretty strong in
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this I can see that being you know even
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gathering is probably gonna require some
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combat but all the gear is made by
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players all the best gear you can't even
14:02
buy you know good gear from NPCs so
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that's really strong the player own
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towns villages houses and the
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customization that people put into this
14:12
I can see that you know they're really
14:13
into this game if you're into that kind
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of thing where you own actual land not
14:16
instance this is gonna be a this will be
14:19
what you want and it's not just houses
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you can actually buy other stuff I'll
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get into in a second the field of
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adventure is really strong in this game
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it's just like you take off and you
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never know where you'll end up or who
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you'll meet or what's going on it's just
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full of surprises the world is huge one
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of the people I started the game with we
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didn't even run into each other until
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three days later online offline no idea
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I would never try offline that might be
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good for somebody without internet I
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don't know why they even had that
14:42
feature overworld map reminds me of the
14:44
old Final Fantasy stuff kind of feel
14:47
like Paul Bunyan running around but it
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gives you just gives you this sense of
14:50
awe and it's it's a big living world
14:53
that you run around really really
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enjoyed that feature actually player
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made gears of course I mentioned is is
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gonna be dependent upon crafters and
15:00
stuff really solid you can have your
15:02
store in front of your house pretty
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great
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I mentioned to you in the video you
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could rent out if you can actually buy
15:08
different houses like hotels and boats
15:10
and other kinds of stuff and the hotels
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you can actually rent the rooms out to
15:13
other players for gold you'll see them
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contact
15:15
discord real money transfer I think
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there's some in this game you know I saw
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there was websites that were selling
15:21
stuff like items or housing or other
15:22
things in the game I think that's not
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against TOS so that might interest on
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people community in us was extremely
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extremely strong a community really felt
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welcoming I went to a stream do lanes
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and first he answered a lot of questions
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you know I took a lot of his time asking
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questions other people in the room part
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of the community answered the questions
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too I was quickly able to determine that
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I did want to try this game defected I
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really appreciate you coming out and
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taking your time to help I knew about I
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need you could have been doing other
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things he sells he gave me some cloth
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items he's a tailor apparently so make
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sure to check out his items if you're
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out there I want to thanks Avery for
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putting up with everything I did during
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this review okay now just to cover some
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of what I thought was the weaker aspects
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first impressions graphics I pretty much
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got over it really quick maybe well
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maybe like 10 minutes I mean some of the
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trees now I'm looking at I they could
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look a little better to me I'm used to
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pretty good graphics but poor gameplay
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and depth is more important to me if
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you're totally into graphics so I can
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see this being a total issue me I'm
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gonna wake that out or you know maybe
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just try it and see if you can get
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through it
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optimizations are pretty poor like you
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would think video a lot of people say
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that's a resource hog this is an even
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larger resource hog you'll start out
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with 5 gigs of RAM you can easily get up
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to 12 I knew when that was happening
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though because I would see the game
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would kind of like freeze that there
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would be a drop in FPS and whenever that
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happened I would know I just needed to
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restart the game and then the RAM would
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go down and that would actually fix
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loading screens didn't bother me at all
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even though some of the people I was
16:54
playing with too had 30 seconds to a
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minute my number 10 to 15 seconds I'm
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used to it from Elder Scrolls some
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people might be really put off by those
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load screens that you can improve that
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with a faster harddrive SSD um a lot of
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bugs I wouldn't say a lot but some are
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really annoying like falling off ladders
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to your depth you know just when it
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should be just clicking a ladder but I
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think that'll be resolved not a big deal
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mob AI it can be extremely fun when you
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get surrounded by tons of mobs and just
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that comes like the most epic battle
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ever I really actually enjoyed that a
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lot um but they can be exploited to some
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extent by jumping up to higher platforms
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then they have a padding issue I'm
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pretty
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that'll be fixed as well quest can be
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annoying but you know what you don't
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even have to him I did him for the video
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and I think they just added them so
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they're probably working on making those
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more streamlined so I don't even think
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that'll be an issue and it's not like
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you have to do quest in this kind of
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game anyway if you like a controlled
17:44
theme park thing that could be an issue
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but you know maybe for once just just
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try something where you just do whatever
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you want you know who knows what'll
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happen and then of course there's a lot
17:52
of small annoyances like in that house I
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didn't feel like running back and I just
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killed myself just small annoyances like
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that every now and then I would just
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ignore them I want to thank everybody in
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the community for helping me put this
18:02
together I enjoyed this game I'm going
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to purchase it and then probably do
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videos in the future I want to see how
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this progresses but thanks everybody for
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helping make sure to subscribe because
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I'll have some more videos I'll be
18:14
reviewing some more MMOs and thanks a
18:16
lot for watching and I'll see you next
18:17
time
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