Nebraska football is trending for another commitment in the 2024 class, plus which #Huskers commitments are still underrated?
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Hey Husker fans, welcome back to another episode of the Husker Big Red podcast
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I'm Chris Peterson and with me as always is my co-host Danny Gillette. We're here on a Tuesday
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We're a little busy on Monday, so we push things back a day, but we're here with a lot
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of information. We got a lot of recruiting info going on, you know, Gibson Pyle getting his All-American
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Bowl invite. I did want to mention guys before we get too far into this, if you haven't yet, check out
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our one-on or exclusive not one-on-one I should say but our exclusive interview with Isaac Dickey
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the preferred walk-on fullback for Nebraska we did that last Friday and that's a real treat for
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Nebraska fans I think he's going to be a really exciting player for the Cornhuskers here in the
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future what about you Danny? I just love to hear him say that he wanted to hit somebody you know I
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love that that's exactly what we need and you know we've talked about the physical offense that
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Nebraska wants to bring, I think he'll fit well. And, you know, perhaps more importantly than all
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of that, he sounds like really focused and that he really wants to be here. And, you know, it's
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just great to see somebody so excited about joining the program. And even when we quizzed him on some
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Husker history, he was able to name some names that were around before even I was born. So it was
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It was good to see him kind of know Nebraska history as well
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And it was interesting to hear him talk about Coach Barthol and how hands-on the coaching staff was
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It's a fullback camp. I mean, the fact that we had a fullback camp is even cool in its own right
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So it was a really good interview, and he spoke very well. I actually learned a lot from his interview on Friday
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Yeah, he's an interesting player too. You know, he runs almost 11 flat
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I mean, he's got a very productive career running the ball. So it just that makes me, you know, interested in his future, not necessarily that he could
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be, you know, starting running back, but just that he could also, you know, make some contributions
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you know, with the fullback too. We've seen, you know, those guys be effective running the ball for Nebraska, you know, over
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the years and, you know, getting four or five opportunities a game. I mean, you know, Andy Jankovic, I believe, you know, he was a guy that, you know, had
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some big runs. So, you know, I mean, and some of the guys he talked about, Joel McAvick, you know, Corey Schlesinger, it's not like those guys, you know, were running like a Mon Green
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But, you know, when they got their opportunities, they took advantage of it. And so, you know, I would love to see, you know, Isaac Dickey getting some fullback dives like in the future, you know, out of the spread or whatever anymore
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But that would be awesome. And, you know, I think he sounds like a guy that just wants to play no matter what
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And I love that attitude. And he'll definitely find some reps during his time at Nebraska for sure
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And I'm excited to see what he can bring to the table. And he's a big kid
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I was watching some of his workout videos and he posted something the other day
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He is absolutely jacked. So I really hope he does well and we'll try to get him on the show again soon
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I'm happy that we're going to interview a lot of these guys. And it seems like the future of the program is in good hands in more ways than one
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It definitely is in good hands, yeah, with Coach Matt Rule and, you know, the staff
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A lot of really, you know, good recruits and guys that are really committed, I think, to, you know, rebuilding Nebraska
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And, you know, with Isaac Dickey, some of these other guys, too, I think it's another sign of, you know
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Rule kind of rebuilding the walk-on program, too, which has always been a strong tradition at Nebraska
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Not that, you know, there was still, you know, solid walk-on players during the Frost era
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but it's good to see that, you know, kind of continuing. And Isaac Dickey, yeah, through special teams and working his way, you know, into the offense, I think, is going to have a good chance down the road to, you know, eventually earn a scholarship
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And, you know, because it's not like you're going to go out and recruit a bunch of fullbacks, you know what I mean
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And honestly, another thought, too, is, you know, if he is starting to get on the field, I think he could be a candidate to get some good NIL money
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You know, fullbacks, Nebraska, I think there's a lot of potential there. So, yeah, I think there's a lot of potential with his career
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And I think he's another guy that's signed or committed, not signed yet, excuse me, but committed as part of this 2024 class that's, you know, pretty underrated
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And, you know, we got another example this week when Gibson Pyle, you know, was selected for the All-American Bowl
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I mean, it's, you know, he dominated. He was one of the best offensive linemen kind of at that showcase down in Florida, and that earned him the invitation
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And but yeah, it's it's crazy to see, you know, he still ranked like 753 or something in the, you know, 24 seven composite rankings
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So that that just kind of got me thinking about different recruits that, you know, should be, you know, upgraded as blue chips
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We saw some guys, you know, that did get upgraded via, you know, on three, I believe Kewon Lacey and Carlon Jones both got four stars
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But there's still some guys that definitely are a little bit underrated. and Gibson Pyle is very near the top of my list in terms of Cornhuskers
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that should be rated as four-star players across the spectrum. You talk about people that want to just mash and knock the living daylights out of people
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Pyle can do that as well. I mean, he's a very physical lineman, and he seems like, again
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he really wants to be a part of the program. He really wants to turn things around, and I'm really happy to see him get the recognition he deserves
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I mean, honestly, some of it could be that he's from the state of Texas, and Texas is huge
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I mean, football is everywhere, and there's so many players, just like Florida, to kind of go through and sift through
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And I'm glad Pyle's getting a lot of recognition now as he gets set to begin his Nebraska football career, you know, in the near future
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Yeah, and it's, you know, I don't know if it's because he's slated to be a guard or, you know, exactly
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It could be, you know, the state of Texas thing, but you know, yeah
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he put together a really solid camp and, you know, he's a guy that I, you know
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I really could see probably having a decent chance to start like in a second season, you know, in Nebraska, I think he'll be a multi-year starter
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you know, one of those guard spots. But yeah, it's interesting. You know
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if you look at like the 24 seven composite rankings, even just the 24 seven rankings, like he won Lacey right now is ranked eight
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74. Carlon Jones is ranked eight 19. And so that's definitely dragging down
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So even though Kiwan Lacy has been upgraded to a four-star by some, he's still 529th in the 24-7 composite rankings
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So that's kind of what I tend to look at in terms of calculating the blue chip ratio and things like that
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I think the composite ranking is probably the best to calculate all of them
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So who are some other guys that you could see that deserve kind of an upgrade that you think should get a ranking upgrade here in the next few months
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Braylon Prude. I thought he was ranked very low for the type of talent he has
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You know, Prude is ranked 632nd overall nationally. I think he should get a four-star by the time his senior season ends
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And then, you know, just looking at a guy like Quinn Clark
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I mean, I don't think he's even ranked nationally. I mean, with him being an 84 overall, according to the 24-7 rankings, it may be a bit of a
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climb to get a four-star, but I feel like he deserves to at least be ranked
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And, you know, you can kind of speak on this. Is it because, you know, he's from, like, if he wasn't from Montana, for example, do
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you think he would be ranked Ashley by now? I think he well he is ranked you know 13 13 in the 1300s in the composite 24 Oh you know doesn Well they mixed up the way they putting their rankings out
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For some reason, they're showing their rankings instead of the composite, like when you look up Nebraska commitments or whatever
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Gotcha, yep. So I don't know if that's because of the on threes doing that
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But, yeah, he is still pretty underrated. I think part of it is because he's from Montana and just the competition
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There's just not been a ton of Division I players. There's three in this class already for Montana
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They have a guy going to Boise State and another guy going to Kentucky. But I think that that is a big part of it
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There's just not the competition to kind of, you know, verify, you know, what you're seeing on film, I guess, you know, would be the best way to say it
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And I think that's why Nebraska is, you know, kind of getting a steal. I mean, he ran a really fast, you know, 40 time
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And I know from I actually just interviewed Quinn Clark for, you know, my day job at 406sports.com and here in Montana
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And he was actually talking to me about when they offered him, the coaching staff was kind of worried about Iowa State
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and Iowa State ended up not offering Quinn. He went there after his Nebraska camp
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So I don't know how well he performed. He was really tired. But they definitely knew what kind of player he was
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and other schools were going to be interested. And so I think they did a good job to lock this one down
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as quickly as they did. He reminds me a lot of Malachi Coleman
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just in the way he has his speed and the way he can play on the outside and his ability to run after the catch
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And so I feel like Clark is still a bit underrated, you know, I think
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And honestly, not that he's underrated, but I don't understand why Isaiah McMorris doesn't have a four-star yet
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I mean, it feels like he's ranked 89th overall numerically. And I'm just taking a look at the national rankings really quick
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He's 493rd nationally and 73rd overall wide receiver in the class. But I'm wondering if he'll get a four-star because he is very close to getting one
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Yeah, he's definitely on my list for a guy that I think definitely deserves an upgrade
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I mean, he's not only, you know, has he got good production
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I mean, he's got pretty elite production, over 1,500 yards receiving last year. He got like 12 touchdowns
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Yeah, so 12, I was wrong. 12, 1,297 and 15 touchdowns, but still, I mean, give or take it. Yeah. And he runs, I mean
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he runs 10, six, two in the a hundred meter dash. He can play multiple positions. So yeah
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that's another weird one. I really don't understand why he's, he's a three-star. And I mean
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I could say that about Daniel Kalin too. I know Daniel Kalin has gotten some upgrades lately
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You know, he's been upgraded in the, you know, 24, seven, their, their specific rankings
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their own rankings have him like as the 15th best quarterback um he's also now a four-star in the on
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three industry rankings which are kind of like i said they're kind of like an average but 24 7
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sports is the only recruiting service that has him as a four-star right now and so that to me is not
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that's not right he needs to get upgraded there like on three has him as the 41st best quarterback
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espn has him 24th rivals has him 30th um 24 7 has him 15th which i think is more i think he i mean
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he was invited to the elite 11 for christ's sake and he won the 11 event so how do you have him
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ranked 41st among quarterbacks that makes no sense to me and it's not the golden boy that all the
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media writers were told to write about and who and you know all their storylines they didn't have
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daniel kalin in their storylines or their you know flashy you know favorites at the elite 11 and for
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people saying who gives a shit well it does matter they need to evaluate kids properly not just
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speaking from a Nebraska perspective but overall and I understand there's a lot of kids in each
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state but I mean I feel like some of these kids just get missed out on like like Lacey and you
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know like those like these type of guys they need to be evaluated properly and you know because
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they're a lot better than what these stupid star rankings show oh yeah I definitely agree um yeah
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you know it's just it's just weird how they have it um you know graded and um yeah at the end of
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the day sure maybe it's not going to affect you know player performance and whatnot but it definitely
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does matter um you know in terms of their recruiting and um yeah it's just it's good to
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see guys get ranked fairly like you said and right now nebraska just i mean you know they don't have
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a ton of four-star prospects overall um i think let's see the on the industry rankings for on three
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happen with uh five so that's kind of the you know it's like five or six across the board but
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then they've got a then they've got like five or six others that are in that you know four five
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500, 600 range. Key1 Lacey should be a four-star. I don't know
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Like I said, it's the 24-7 ranking. It's easily in the 800, which is ridiculous
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That's the same thing with Carlon Jones. He's ranked in the 800s by 24-7 too
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It's like, have you guys not seen him play? Have you not updated your rankings? If they weren't in Texas, I bet you they'd be four-stars
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Yeah, probably. I think there is. It just maybe gets harder to see
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the same thing happen in Florida. Some of these really, really good kids get underrated just because there's
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so many kids to evaluate and things like that. But if Carlin and Kiwan weren't
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in Texas, I bet you they'd be four stars. Yeah, and maybe Braylon Prude
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too, but he's definitely a guy that I'm excited about and he's another
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guy that I think is really a steal for Nebraska. To get him
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to evaluate him in a camp and get him in, I mean, that's just that's good work by this coaching staff and um it does show like with the gibson pile was the
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second commitment in this class and you know he's showing that he's a lot better than people thought
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too so i think we need to give and we have been i feel like you and i have definitely been but
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this may be just reinforcing our point that this coaching staff knows how to evaluate talent
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and we need to get gibson on another one of these shows soon i i loved talking with him last time
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And I'd love to hear about his experience at the, at the camps and getting upgraded and stuff
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And I think I saw something. Did he run a 4.17 shuttle
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He did a four seven. I mean, yeah, so that's still crazy
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Yeah. That's moving for offensive line. And yeah, I mean, I, you know
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and like, wow, I'm really excited about Gunnar Gatula and like the way he's played at tackle
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you know, in spring practice. And then you're adding Gibson. but I just think they're adding a lot of, you know
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quality offensive line pieces, which will be kind of a good segue to some recruiting stuff
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Preston Tauma or Tauma. I have, I'm hoping I'm pronouncing that in the name
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Tamua. I don't know. Yeah. Please. If we mispronounce that, you know, get comments, you know
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put in the comment section and we'll try to. We won't mind at all. We need to know these pronunciations
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But anyways, 6'4", 315 pounds, the number one player out of the state of Hawaii
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and uh you know it seemed like oregon was the favorite and then like last week all of a sudden
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um blair and julio from 24 7 put in a prediction and um yesterday justin hopkins from he does a
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scoop duck from it's an oregon site from on three he's really trustworthy reporter in terms of
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recruiting he had his on three prediction on oregon he was the first one and he flipped that
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to nebraska last night so to me this is a done deal like nebraska getting this guy uh that my opinion what are your thoughts on Preston Tauma I love him I mean again he a very physical lineman
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He bowls people over. You know, he's very sturdy in his movements
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He sets his feet real well. He's aggressive. You know, I think, you know, he is a fantastic lineman
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And although he's a four-star, I feel like he's not getting a ton of attention either
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I mean, I feel like he could be a guy that could come in and, you know, play right away and, you know, really get an opportunity to shine
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And with this offensive line-centric coaching staff, I feel like that will only help him get even better
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So I'm really excited. You know, I hope he commits. And, you know, even though all these things are trending that way, you know, I never believe it until I actually see the kids on the field
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So, I mean, I'm just really excited that, you know, he, that Nebraska is in the mix
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And for all the flack I've given Donovan Rayola about his lack of recruiting, he's done, you know, fairly well this cycle and getting linemen
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And, you know, because, and you can attest to this too, and I actually talked about it on a show I was on last night
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The thing with linemen is that you can have a really good three-star lineman, and he doesn't have to be a sexy four or five-star, and he can get the job done
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I mean, my friend was drafted 14th overall by the Atlanta Falcons, and he was a three-star at Boston College
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So I feel like linemen have – the star rankings for them don't necessarily matter a ton, if you know what I mean
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So, I mean, I feel like just overall the cycle, Rayola's done a good job of getting some really, really good linemen
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that fit the aggressive play style that he's looking for. He has done a really good job on the cycle
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I do agree with you. One thing with linemen, just because the thing about it, okay
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is how are you going to, you know, they go to all these seven-on-seven camps. I mean, even with Gibson Pyle, it's not like these guys are in pads
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I mean, full pads. That doesn't really happen at these camps. So I just I have a hard time evaluating offensive linemen if you're not playing full
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You know, that's just it's not real. It's not real. Putting big guys in shorts and, you know, movement, you know, I mean, yeah, guys like I think, yeah, guys like Brandon Baker
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I'm not saying he's not going to be great, but they look amazing at those types of events. Right. But that's those guys get rated higher than they should at times because they just they look like they look the part and they don't always play like the part
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And so that's with offensive line. I think so much of it has to do with coaching and, you know, development and all that type of stuff
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And so if you get good coaches, you can really turn out good offensive linemen
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And we'll see with real of the recruiting definitely is getting better. They've landed. This would be a good one, you know, with the top kid out of Hawaii
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I know Grant Bricks is still there, you know, on the board. He hasn't really talked that much about a decision
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But, you know, Nebraska is still right in the mix with those two guys. And the one thing with Tauma is, to me, I mean, he's like 6'4", close to 6'5"
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but he looks like he has the movement skills to play tackle. I'm just interested in this class going for ��
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Nebraska had all those huge offensive linemen, and this rule staff, they're very into the 6'4", 6'5", height range so far
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at least for their – a lot of these guys are going to play guard. But it's just interesting. They're not recruiting those 6'8"-type tackles anymore
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Well, you kind of need guys to be able to move quickly now with how passing-based the game is
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And, you know, I'm just looking, you know, at some of Raylo's recruiting gets
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I mean, his highest one so far has been Gunnar Gatula. And Gatula was an 87 overall numerically
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He committed in 2021. And then Gibson, you know, was the second highest
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followed by Brock Knudsen, Sam Sledge, and Landon Davidson. so you know
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Tamu has a chance to absolutely blow these guys out of the water in terms of ranking
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and I think Pyle and Davidson in particular are two really good gets for
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Rayola and I think also having a coaching staff that actually wants
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to run the football, be physical and get good linemen in here also helps
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Rayola a ton too because you can even tell last year, we won't
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go down this rabbit hole too much but The offensive style did not mesh or help out offensive linemen in any way
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And now that we have a coaching staff that understands linemen, I feel like that's helping Rayola recruit a little better as well
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He can sell a lot more to potential recruits in terms of
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hey, you're going to be able to fit because X, Y, and Z, and it's not just a shot in the dark
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Yeah, and maybe our offensive coordinator won't run empty protection and spread off him like playground style
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everybody go deep fine you know he did that all the time i mean it worked for trey palmer like to
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his credit but i mean it didn't work for everybody else it worked if yeah it worked if casey could
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run away for a second before he got killed but poor anthony grant too i feel like grant got a lot of
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uh lost opportunities last season but i think that's gonna change this year
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yeah it just was frustrating in some of those games you know like the minnesota game is one
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And I remember where they started off really well. Grant started off really well
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And then they kind of went away from running the ball. I feel like they did the same thing against Wisconsin
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Yeah, Illinois. Basically everybody. Every time they ran the ball well. And Anthony Grant, just like he never got the carries that he probably should have got
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So hopefully Marcus Satterfield will be a little more into running the football
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I definitely think it's going to be more of a focus. And, you know, I am excited to see what Jeff Sims and all these all these weapons can do
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But, yeah, it's you know, it is interesting if they can get, you know, another four star commitment
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That would be really big. You know, another topic I want to discuss on recruiting
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You know, you still got, you know, Amari Sanders out there, you know, Caleb Bennings. I saw that Mike Schaefer had kind of a little report that he's expected to take a visit at the end of this month
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So, like, if that visit happens, do you think Nebraska is going to take one of those guys, like, you know, Benning or Sanders
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Or do you think there's a chance they take both or neither? What are your thoughts? Well, is Benning still on the December timeline for his decision
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As of right, yeah, for now. He's stuck with that for now. But I'm wondering if that could change after, you know, he gets on campus again
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That's what I'm kind of curious about. Well, I feel like Sanders, like, he's been crystal ball to Nebraska, and it seems like all the momentum is trending
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I feel like Nebraska could take Sanders for sure. And then I kind of wonder about Grant Bricks as well
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I'm not sure when he's, I believe Bricks was set to make his decision before his
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his senior season coming up. So maybe soon, but I'm not exactly sure the exact date
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So say we land Sanders and Bricks that would put us at 25 or no
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Yeah. Yeah. 25. Yep. Okay. So I mean, betting i don't see where betting fits because we already have donovan jones i'm not saying that
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betting is worse or whatever to donovan jones but i'm just like i don't see a fit there now that we
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have jones i mean we can always use another safety but i don't know we'll see i always thought that
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we landed donovan jones and we pursued jones because we kind of knew we weren going to get Benning but maybe that changed Yeah I don know if I not sure if there a connection I definitely think there is a connection between like Sanders and Benning
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And I, I just don't see them taking two more defensive backs, but I also think
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I don't think Braylon Prude's going to play defensive back. He's going to be a linebacker, I think
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Yeah. And there's another guy, Rex Guthrie, I think has a good chance of maybe being a line or like that Rover position
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So, I mean, but at any rate, I don't know. It's just, I, I watch Caleb Benning and, you know
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when I watch his highlights and I know that, you know, he, I think he was hurt some of last year
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but I just know when I watch him play that I want him to be a Nebraska
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Cornhusker. I just think that, you know, he's an underrated guy. I know he's not a huge, he doesn't have huge size
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but I just feel like he's a playmaker, whether it's, you know, offense or defense. I just feel like they could find a role for him
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And I just feel like that's one of those recruitments. I mean, I'm not saying that you have to recruit him because his dad played there but I just feel like he's
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going to be a good player in college and it just seems like it's such a such a no-brainer like if
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I was Matt Rule I would as long as he's really you know I would I would check the temperature of
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this visit see how things are you know what I mean but I just feel like he's going to have a big
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senior season and I just I feel like personally if Nebraska doesn't take him then they're going
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to regret it well if he waits till December then I mean I don't know it's tough because by then you
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kind of want to have your class wrapped up and if there's a better guy out there you don't want
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to hold a spot just for benning to see if he decides so i don't know i mean i would like to
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have him i think he's a he's a very good player but the timeline just doesn't i'm not a huge fan
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of the timeline yeah i get i get that um and we'll see maybe he would announce earlier yeah i don't
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know maybe he would make some type of you know silent pledge i'm not really sure you know i'm
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obviously I don't know how that's going. And really it's not like he's taking a bunch of other visits or anything
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So, I mean, I don't think that he took a single visit anywhere. I could be wrong
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I think his last visit was to Nebraska. I know he took an unofficial at some point
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He got a crystal ball at some point. And Amari Sanders has also, like you said, he's got the crystal balls too
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But there hasn't been a huge flood of them. There's been like two
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One was Brian Christopherson from Huskers 24-7, who I do trust. But I do think it's an issue right now where it's like Nebraska's trying to decide whether or not to take him
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That's my read on the situation more. And so I don't know if Benning's factoring into that or not
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Because they still need edge. I mean, they need another edge in this
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They really don't have a pure edge in this class right now. So they need to get an edge
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And, you know, they're trying to get some more offensive linemen. So, I mean, it wouldn't shock me if they got up, you know, 28 to 30
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but we'll see. I mean, you know, are they going to have Caleb Benning be the 30th scholarship
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I don't know. You know, it's not if Omari Sanders is in the class too
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I mean, then you're almost pushing like 10 defensive backs, which is kind of wild. And Omari Sanders' crystal balls have been relatively recent
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And I know from reading that he talks to Coach Cooper every day
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secondaries coach Evan Cooper. So I feel like Sanders is honestly more of a viable option at this point than Benning is
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Benning took a visit to Lincoln on June 9th, and he's also, you know, taking a visit, you know, during that big visit weekend in March
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He took a visit then, too. So, I mean, if Benning wants to be here and he wants to come, like, that's awesome
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I just if you have a guy like Amari Sanders, I wouldn't make Sanders wait until Benning decides
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So it's kind of a tough situation. but at the very least we have traction with both with both of them so if one doesn't work out then
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maybe the other well but I feel like Sanders is almost the more viable option at this point
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um yeah we'll say that I just think it depends what happens with this visit
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weekend and that's my other thing with Sanders too is like you know if he's trending
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you know he hasn't he hasn't set a commitment date um you know and it's I I think there's
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like two crystal balls on 24 seven so like i get it but you know why hasn't he committed yet like
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if that if we're at the point where they're kind of trending with those crystal balls like is there
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a reason he hasn't committed is it because the staff is still debating that i'm not sure maybe
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just is waiting you know it's just kind of speculation maybe they're waiting for each other
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sanders and benning i mean they're waiting to see what one of them does yeah maybe you know um but i
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think we'll we'll know either way if you know benning because there's a there's an opening at
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the end of July where the dead period ends for a bit so you can take you know unofficial visits
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and I know Nebraska obviously has you know camp starting but if he can get it on an unofficial
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visit you know at the end of July I think that would be you know a good sign for the Huskers
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if not then yeah he probably is going to play somewhere else but I do feel like he's going to
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have a big senior season and I feel like by the time you know this fall rolls around like there's
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Jim Brass is just going to want him in the class so that I don't know we'll see how it plays out but
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I'm still going to stay with what I said if he doesn't wind up in this class I think
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you know a year or two down the road Nebraska might regret it so that's well we'll also have
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to see what happens this fall because um yeah if we start winning games then that might open up
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other opportunities for better players who knows I mean you never know yeah that is a good you know
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point to you know Brandon Baker put out another tweet with the pictures you know do you actually
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buy any of that Brandon Baker type stuff or do you think he's just doing it for traction
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Well, let me first say this. If he wants to come to Nebraska, I absolutely want him. I mean
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he would be a huge get, but I think he knows the fan bases are really loud on Twitter. So I could
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see him doing it for interaction. I mean, groups know how to play the game now. They know that
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Nebraska is one of the louder fan bases on Twitter. And, you know, he knows that we all get excited and talk about him on our shows on Tuesday morning
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So he knows what he's doing. But that's not to say that I wouldn't love to have him because I absolutely would
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I mean, if we have a shot, that would be great. But I don't really see how he fits with all the other linemen we've taken and potentially, you know, bricks as well
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so you know i'd love to have him but i don't see it i think he's just doing it for for uh clicks and
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retweets yeah um i i do think yeah maybe it is part of that but i mean he did take two visits
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to nebraska like unofficial visits um in the spring so he definitely did have some interest
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there it just seemed like he kind of got you know it's hard when texas ohio state you know georgia
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all the big names michigan everybody's after you but you know florida but so his picture he put
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it was nebraska florida state georgia and oregon and oregon has felt like the favorite for a while
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um in this recruitment and so it's kind of it's just kind of interesting that even some of the
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schools he visited he didn't post so it's really hard to say even like brandon baker's top five i
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mean i know oregon's definitely in the mix georgia seems to be right there but i mean nebraska for
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all we know could be in the top five but i don't know if it's you know they could even be in the
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top four, he might really like Riola and Matt Rule, but he still hasn't taken an official visit
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And I don't see him committing if he does, you know, unless he gets back to campus
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So, I mean, if he if he shows up, I mean, there was talk of him in September guys can take an unlimited amount of visits so like if he shows up for a game
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for an official visit in September then yeah I'll put him you know I'll take that seriously but
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right now I don't even know how much Nebraska's even recruiting him seriously because
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you're they're trying to get Brett Grant Bricks done I'm trying to get you know this kid out of
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Hawaii so I really don't know how much I haven't heard that Nebraska's even contacted him or no I'm
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wondering if he's even on the board anymore uh my guess and this is just purely a guess with the
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way they're recruiting other offensive linemen I don't think he's on their board anymore I mean
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if if we land Tamu and then Bricks then that's two more linemen and then where does he fit
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because we already have Landon Davidson you know we got Pyle coming in we have um you know
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Sam Sledge coming in for 2023 I mean there's a ton of names I'm just looking um really quick here
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and it doesn't look like a lot of room for Baker and he's a really good player
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but we have a lot of linemen already. So my guess is that Nebraska kind of knows
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Jake Peters too we have. So I'm thinking Nebraska probably knows that he's not coming here
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and that's why they're recruiting other linemen and Baker's just using it for engagement
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But we'll see. I mean, it just doesn't seem like there would be a lot of room for him here now
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Yeah. I mean, I think they'd make room. I mean, you make room for, yeah. Oh yeah. Big. I mean like
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you know, if you have to take eight offensive linemen, cause you get him in your class
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like you just do it because he's that, you know, he's that rare of a talent. But at the same time, yeah
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I don't, you know, I, I posted about it yesterday at has your big red.com
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And that was my, you know, my answer was, you know, until he takes a visit
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I'm not taking it seriously. So I think that, in terms of recruiting, I think that's all the hits we got. But I did want to segue, you know
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Donovan Rayola did, you know, an interview on Monday talking about the offensive line
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you know, so there was a lot of kind of tidbits in there. So, you know, Matt Rules talked about
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it. He's talked about it. Everybody's kind of talking to this offensive line, you know
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with some of the additions, you know, Ben Scott, some of the guys coming back from injury and suspension. But is the is the offensive line actually going to be better
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next season for Nebraska football. I wanted to debate that, and I'll throw it to you, Danny
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What are your thoughts? Yes. I think, again, like we mentioned earlier
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having a coaching staff that takes pride in building a good offensive line, that's going to help
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I think some of the players returning, like Noelle, for example, I mean, Turner Corcoran, hopefully
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guys that didn't really get a chance to make a huge impact last year
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And then, you know, you have other other linemen as well coming into the fold from the 2023 class
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I mean, you look at some of the names in the class and, you know, they really have an opportunity to shine
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I mean, to me, the offensive line is wide open in terms of just talent and, you know, trying to get bodies on the line itself
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You have Gatula and then you have a guy like Brock Knudsen
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So I think it will be better. I think having Riella more involved in recruiting and getting the guys he wants will help
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And, you know, truth be told, they didn't perform terribly towards the end of last season
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They got a little bit better, but by then it was too late. I think, you know, the line has a chance to pick up where it left off and have a much stronger season this year
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And I feel like I might eat those words once the season starts and you all point back to this clip right here But that how I feel about it So you know with Teddy being back on the left side that going to be huge and uh you know I just hope he stays healthy yeah Donovan
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said he's good to go I mean he said he's good to go you know last year I think they tried to play
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him when he was hurt those first few you know it just didn't they should have never played him yeah
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so I think he's it's been good to get he had the full all of last season so I mean he's had almost
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like a full year to you know get himself right um so I feel like he's going to be you know a
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cornerstone at that tackle position, which Nebraska needs, you know, left tackle. And then, you know, Corcoran, you know
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you mentioned Noeli coming back. I think that's, you know, he's a guy that I think can play in the NFL. And so to get a guy like that
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you know, I think Ben Scott is the same to get him from Arizona state
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you know, a guy that's actually started like 20 some games in his career, you know, a tackle and at center
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So I feel like basically you're getting three really quality starters right
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there. And then you've got, you know, the other two spots, which I think we've all kind of penciled in, you know, Ben Hart at right tackle and Corcoran
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there at guard, but there's some other, you know, listening to Rayola or just reading through the
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comments. There are some other depth pieces, you know, Ethan Piper is a guy that, you know
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started games at guard, you know, he could play last year too. Yeah, he was, yeah, he was solid
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So, I mean, that's another guy that you're, I thought that Henry Leptoski actually played pretty well last year at guard and he's someone that's kind of, you know, I even forgot about him
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a little bit, just kind of lost in the shuffle, but he's another guy. I mentioned Gatula. I
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I really feel like if Nebraska needs a tackle this year, I feel like there's a chance he could get that spot
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You know, I mean, probably right away, their first move would probably be to bump out Corcoran, you know
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and bump in Ethan Piper to take his spot. I mean, that makes sense. But I don't, I think that Gunnar Gatula
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like I don't think the game is too big for him. I think he could play tackle this year if needed. And then, you know, Jacob Hood, you've got some of those other guys
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But I feel like there's some depth this year. and I just feel really good about that starting five especially you know if Bryce Benhart can
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you know build on the solid spring that he had because he looked pretty solid to me he looked
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like he actually like a legitimate NFL caliber prospect in the spring so we'll see hopefully he
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can uh he can do that but you know I mean Matt Rule said it from day one you know and I don't
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think Matt Rule says things just to say you know I don't think he would say that he thinks the
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offensive line is going to be better you know well you know what I mean like I just I don't think he I think he really believes it and I think that's because he's seen a lot of the evidence
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on the field to believe it well he said that Bryce Benhart could be an NFL player people got a
36:25
chuckle out of that uh in the beginning but I mean like you said Benhart performed well in the
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spring game so maybe maybe he Benhart just needed a reset as did many others you know I think maybe
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he just needed a change of scenery and a chance to kind of have a clean slate and start over so
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to speak. So I'd love to see him, you know, really kind of break out the season. I've been incredibly
36:48
harsh on him and, you know, I've kind of written him off, but I would love for him to prove me
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wrong and make me eat my words. Yeah. I think there's going to be a lot of guys that just
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you know, getting, getting a spark with this coaching staff or just getting better coaching
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you know, it's not going to be, this won't be the first instance of guys, you know, like
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underachieving and now, you know, kind of overachieving with a new coaching staff in place
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So that's really what I'm banking on this year with a lot of these veteran type guys
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And even some of the other guys that have played well in the past, like Quentin Newsome
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who's to say that those guys can't take another step under the direction of Evan Cooper and
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Tony White. You know what I mean? So I just feel like Nebraska's had players, like talent has not been the issue here over
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the last five years, even the last decade. Talent has not been Nebraska's problem
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It's been a lot of coaching. And I mean, just just look at the close games. I mean, you know, like coaches, players win games, coaches lose games
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And our coach lost us a lot of games over the last five years And I don think that going to happen anymore No And you look at you know you you mentioned having the talent You look at a guy like Malcolm Hartzog I excited to see how he you know comes back and plays this year He was a bright spot last year so I mean just looking at that 2021 season I mean
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I believe we lost to Ohio State by nine. We lost to Michigan by a touchdown, if my memory serves
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me right or was it three or three it was by three yeah because we uh nebraska it was tied it was
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tied actually i think in martinez we had nebraska had the ball and then uh fumbled it and then movie
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they got the field goal remember that's what happened and then drove down to like the 45
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yard line two pet like two passes to the 50 and then like three incompletions and then game over
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best 3-9 team in history so yeah i saw that tweet yeah it's like please just stop
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tweeting about that season i don't want to see it anymore i don't want to think about the michigan
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state game ever again that was the game well the michigan state game is when i first was like
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yeah this probably isn't going to work out with scott frost and then the michigan game like i just
38:59
remember his face like there was a there's like a famous picture of his face and he's like like
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he's got his hat off and he's like rubbing his forehead and like, he's like
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he's like, like, you know, it was like, like you can see his
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like, uh, you know, the saying like a picture is worth a thousand words, that picture right there after the Michigan loss in 2021 at Lincoln
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Memorial stadium, that picture right there sums up the entire career of Scott Frost at Nebraska
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Yeah. Well, just like, either or lots of promise. And then just couldn't get it done
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I mean, I just think there were a lot of things that happened. I mean, there's a, I don't want to get into all this stuff, but you know
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Michigan state game. I remember, Oh, go ahead. Well, I was just going to say like, if you, if you have, you know
39:44
if not everything is right in your personal life, you know, you're not going to be focused on your job a hundred percent. So, you know
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Scott Frost, I mean, there's definitely some truth to some of the things out there with the
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infidelities and all that. And that definitely played a huge factor. I mean
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if you're, if you're sitting there going through like a, a personal issue with your wife or whatever
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how are you going to focus on, on the, you know, with all the pressure and everything else
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how are you going to focus on doing your best? So, you know, I just think there was a whole bunch of a litany of issues and reasons why
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you know, he didn't succeed. Yeah. And I actually remember the Michigan state game was tough too
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because if my memory serves me right, we held Kenneth Walker to
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Oh yeah. Under a hundred yards rushing. I'm looking it up right now real quick
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But that game was won, basically. Nebraska was the best team all game
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and then they couldn't put anybody away because Adrian Martinez just was not an efficient quarterback
40:43
The defense played amazing. That defense, like the fact that that defense didn't get to play in a bowl game
40:48
is just a travesty because that was a really good defense. Yeah, we held Kenneth Walker to 10 carries for 61 yards
40:58
and I think some of that he got in overtime too he did and I and then it was the punt return that
41:06
tied the game I thought it was a punt return that won it but it ended up being no part return by
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Jaden Reed and I remember the entire right side being open yeah because the punter punted it to
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the wrong side of the field and then that's why we lost the game because our punter could not
41:23
effing punt the ball to the right side of the goddamn field he couldn't even punt the ball
41:28
there were some days where he couldn't punt the ball but anyway that was the easy jaden reed
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basically had nobody to yeah he just walked in yep and yeah i remember yeah it was like a seven
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point game and nebraska kept stuffing them and stuffing them yeah and then um this michigan's
41:43
that was like michigan state last chance i think they just burned their final time out like nebraska had to stop them one more time and then they give up a punt return for a touchdown and it was game over and that that game and then you know like losing those two games to michigan and michigan state when they should have won like that just yeah you know that could have
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changed the trajectory of the season honestly because you win those two you feel pretty good
42:06
about yourself and uh speaking of not feeling good about yourself pat fitzgerald's last win
42:13
came against Nebraska in Ireland. Yeah, that's crazy. Glad we were able to send him off
42:19
probably the final season of his coaching career in general by giving him a victory
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Literally handing him a victory. Yeah, good job Scott Frost on the onside kick
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Oh, Jesus. And we're in the Hall of Fame with Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern stuff is in the Hall of Fame
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because they beat Nebraska. And we paid them like millions of dollars
42:45
They quite literally had nothing to lose that game, and they didn't
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They played like they wanted it. But hey, Georgia Southern at least
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they got rid of Scott Frost for us. They did, so thank you, Georgia Southern
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Should send Clay Hilton a bottle of champagne. Thanks, buddy. Oh, man
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Hopefully all that misery can be forgotten about this season with a good season
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And I feel I've I truly do feel optimistic. I remember feeling optimistic in 2021 and, you know, I kind of felt shaky in 2022, but
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I'm back to my optimism for better or for worse than 2023. But I don't think some of the things we just mentioned, I don't think we'll see that under
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Matt Rule. No, I don't think so either. I'm not saying that Matt Rule is going to be perfect, but I don't think that you're going
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to see Nebraska losing games because of a fake, you know, a surprise onside kick
43:32
You know what I mean? Just or coverage on the entire right side of the field
43:37
I mean, come on. You don't even see that. Like, I haven't seen that happen
43:42
I've covered high school football for almost 15 years. Almost 15 years
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Six-man, eight-man, 11-man. I've never seen anything like that. Not once. No, I haven't either
43:53
And, you know, I've been a part of several teams and stuff. But Nebraska against Michigan State, yeah
43:59
You got a top 25 win hanging in the balance. And, yeah. That was the game I threw in the towel for that season, honestly
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because I felt like the things were slowly starting to trend downward after that game
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But anyways, well, folks, we've been up and down on this episode here
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talk some recruiting, get our shots in on Scott Frost. You can tell how much we're drinking the Kool-Aid for this season
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but we're going to have a lot more episodes coming up. We're literally, I think, camp starts July 31st, if I'm not mistaken
44:30
so we're like 20 days away from Nebraska. That's crazy. This offseason went by fast, relatively speaking
44:37
I love, too, that they're going to the old-school camp, like that they're doing the camp thing
44:41
The dorms. Yeah. Matt Rule is just, I love him. I love him. I don't care
44:46
But he's pushing all the right buttons, and I love the old-school approach
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It's what these guys need. He wants to be here. He wants to be here, too. He's not just collecting a check
44:55
You can tell he really wants to be here, and that matters a lot, too, because we've seen what happens when a coach doesn't want to be here
45:01
or wants to just collect a check. and these guys needed to kick in the ass you know a little bit and I think they got it with their
45:06
winter conditioning I mean Matt Rule it's the that's the funny thing is he comes off as the
45:11
nicest guy but he works these guys hard don't make don't make any mistakes like he knows how
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to coach them up and so you know like the guys on the field like they're gonna have proven that
45:19
they want to be on the field same thing with Ed Foley I feel like he comes off as a teddy bear but
45:23
he is a he is a very strict coach and EJ Barthol I mean you've seen videos of him barking at players
45:30
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