TRUMPS BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL , BLACKS, GHISLANE MAXWEL WANTS TO TESTIFY & MORE #LIVE #LIVESTREAMING
Jul 15, 2025
TRUMPS BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL , BLACKS, GHISLANE MAXWEL WANTS TO TESTIFY & MORE #LIVE #LIVESTREAMING
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[Music] Okay. Okay, so we're going to get into the big beautiful bill,
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[Music] how it's cutting off, how it's harming black people.
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Uh, just Maxwell wants to
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tell her side of the story when it comes to Jeffrey Mstein and much
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more. Let's get into it. Art Talks Radio live in 4K.
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See, so far this year, the Trump administration has cut more than1 billion dollars in NIH grants. That
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includes a cickle cell disease study. Cickle cell is a blood disorder that
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affects roughly 100,000 people in the United States. According to the CDC, 90%
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of them are black. Alli Rogan sat down with Dr. to charity oedi a Duke
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University hematologist her $750,000 cickle cell research grant was terminated by the Trump administration
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the reason given DEI thank you so much for joining us first
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tell us about cickle cell disease and about how you were working to help people who live with it
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yeah so cickle cell disease is a genetic disorder that predominantly affects black people in the United States but
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can be uh in all people of uh racial ual or ethnic backgrounds worldwide. Um, and
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it's grounded in genetics. And so it's not necessarily only uh black people that experience it. And so the work that
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I was doing uh was focused on developing the first and valid functional
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assessment for people with cle cell disease and the first exercise program tailored to the unique needs of older
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adults with cickle cell disease. And why was it important to look at exercise programs that specifically are
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suited to this population? Yeah. So, people with cickle cell disease have historically um had um fears of
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exercising due to um fears of going uh going into pain. So, they're often
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triggered by overexertion, uh stress, weather. Um and so, that's the hallmark of cickle cell disease, but it makes it
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hard for them to be active. And some um you cannot say Trump is not racist. if
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you're going to cut something um when it comes to funding and you know
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you know it's not just black people who are affected with syel anemia but the majority of people who have sick cell
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are known to be of from the the black demographic.
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Okay. So you can't tell me Trump is not racist. Some even fear that these patients can
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have sudden death and so they really need a program that's tailored to the unique needs that they experience.
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And when you found out that the NIH was cancelling your grant and that the
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reason for doing so was DEI, what was your reaction? The language of the letter, the
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termination notice was shocking to me because it used words like um the researchers low return on investment and
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harmful to Americans. And I was like, who wrote this? Like who wrote who wrote this? Because this is racist. Like this
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is a racist letter to say that like as if my patients are not not Americans or
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as if studying people with cickle cell disease or
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you know even doing equity research is low return. But improving the health of of minority populations and people with
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cickle cell disease is the opposite. It's high return. It improves the health of Americans. It can prolong life. And
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I'm doing the opposite of what this termination. They don't want black life to be prolonged. That's the point. Trump wants
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to bring this back three. He wants to bring back America 300 years. That's what he wants. He wants blacks to die.
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They should know this was even saying. What message does this send to other researchers who want to get into this
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line of research? The first message, you know, as for to researchers is that, you know, it doesn't matter if your work is
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grounded in evidence. It doesn't matter if it's if you're doing life-changing, groundbreaking, innovative research that
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it can get discarded without cause that tells uh researchers that focusing on vulnerable populationations and
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underserved populations is not worth the time because they're going to just take your money, you know? So, it really
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sends the message that maybe people should focus on other areas like focusing on only white men, right? you
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know, so it really makes people scared to to study um the most vulnerable populations in the world.
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We asked HHS about your project in particular and why funding was cut.
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Here's what HHS spokesperson Andrew Nixon told us in a statement. Your study has value, but that it was quote funded
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under an ideologically driven DEI program under the Biden administration and that future projects will be
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reviewed based on their quote scientific merit. How would you respond to that?
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Yes, I would respond to that by saying the project. Appreciate the 53 people here that are listening. Don't forget to drop a like
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to push this through the algorithm. Thank you very much. was already reviewed based on its scientific merit
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and it underwent a rigorous review pro process called a study section that reviewed the science that reviewed me as
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a candidate um that reviewed the innovative nature of the project and they scored it in a high impact uh zone
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which was why it was funded in the first place. In addition to eliminating the the funding for your project, the
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administration has also cut tremendously the CDC division that dealt with blood
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disorders including cickle cell disease. What does it mean for the federal government writ large to seemingly be
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divesting from this type of research? It's grounded in unscientific agendas
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and it's really harmful because we already went many decades without adequate treatments, adequate options to
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improve the health of people with cickle cell disease. So, so basically Trump is playing the eugenics game. All right? He basically
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wants eugenics on a larger scale to basically bump off black people. That's basically what it is. You had Planned
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Parenthood, you know, with the eugenics to, you know, through Margaret Sanger saying black people were weeds and, you
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know, the Negro Project and this is just eugenics on a larger scale.
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It's what it is. Where he cut food stamps and show me where he cut social security cuz I've
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heard all the same three things as well. None of that happened, but the room told you it did and Jasmine Crockett told you
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he did. So guess what? Y'all believe [Music]
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My sister in Christ, I'm going to hold your hand when I say this. Not a single person claiming that the one big
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beautiful bill is cutting Medicaid and SNAP benefits is getting their information from the shade room.
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Every week someone new comes online from every walk of the earth in America
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regardless of class, color, religion and they are proving that we are suffering
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from a literacy in comprehension and critical thinking crisis in this country. This bill has been the most
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talked about bill this year. All of the parameters of the bill are easily researchable online by various mediums
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and even on TV. You would know that because it did pass approximately.
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I know several people who work in the medical research who are terrified that they're going to lose their jobs. Some have worked in the field for 30 years
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and now they are told they are useless. Um,
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hey, uh, you're not useless, but the whole point is it is to kill people,
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unal alive people. That's the whole point, okay? Is depopulation because
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they know by getting these people out, these federal workers, they have a they are essential to different form
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different parts of the government. We see that when it came to the weather the weather uh system that could have prevented the lives that were lost in
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Texas with the Texas floods. And we're going to see we see this with uh um the
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cickle cell, okay? That by cutting by cutting the funding,
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okay, you are going to cause people to die.
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That's what's going to happen. Life expectancy is going to be very short in America. We're going to have a very low
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life expectancy, especially among atrisisk communities.
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And that's what Trump wants. That's what these billionaires want. That's the only logical reason for for doing it. Because
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the less of a population there is, it's easier to control. Nearly 16 million people would lose
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access to Medicaid in some form or another. 22.3 million people will have
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their SNAP benefits reduced or all but canled. That includes kids who who
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depend on SNAP for food security. The bill will reduce federal spending to Medicaid by one trillion.
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Oh. Um, hi. I live in a closet. Pookiesion dollars over the next decade, which greatly impacts rural hospitals,
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clinics, lowincome, and disabled citizens. The cuts to Medicaid and SNAP
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will overwhelmingly and disproportionately affect lowincome individuals, families, and people with
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disabilities, potentially leading to increased poverty. So, I implore you before you come online and making bold
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statements that suggest that black people, especially since you said the shade room, are getting their information from a blog, I want you to
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think about what topic you're talking about. And if it's a government bill,
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a lot, like I said, a lot of these uh a lot of these blacks on the right, um
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they're just puppets just like the left, and they will agree with everything. Now, here's the thing. Trump is um when
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it comes to section 8, uh you're going to have to get yourself
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together if you're able-bodied to get yourself together within two years to get off section 8. That's basically what it is. Okay? When it comes to SNAP and
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and everything like that, that's what it is. But when it comes to uh health research,
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yeah, that's going to be a problem. And yes, he will be cutting Medicaid. Okay, that is true. 15 million people
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will be kicked off of Medicaid. All right, I went through that in my last video.
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Okay, that is what they're trying to do. They're trying to enrich the pockets of billionaires.
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There's no other way to say it. There's no other way to say it. People
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voted for this because they because with DEI once again DEI in their minds and
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Trump supporters minds majority 74% of the population who are white DEI means
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black. That's why they voted for Trump. They thought it was just black people
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are going to be affected when it came to Medicaid or other um things that would
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make them suffer. No, they forgot that majority of them that are on Medicaid
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are white. This is why he said he loves the poorly educated because you guys won't fact
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check him. You won't look into his history. You won't do nothing. The fact that he is white and he's Republican and
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he's rich. You worship that. You're not rich. You're not well off. And it never
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occurred to you that all these people who are doing these cuts, they're rich and they're white.
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that God forbid something would happen to you, you're going to be
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up the creek without a paddle and they will be all right. That never occurred to you because once again, racism
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is what this country is built on and racism is programmed into racist white people, okay, that they think they're
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going to be okay. You're white, I'm white, we're going to be all right. No, they're white, they're rich, they'll be
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all right. You're white and you're not rich, you're not going to be all right.
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and they have fooled you and they have deceived you.
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So, let's get into the other part. Right now, we're going to be talking about how uh the El Salvador government has thrown Trump under the bus.
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Tree of El Salvador has thrown the Trump administration and Donald Trump himself
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under the bus hard. And they didn't just do it while speaking to the press. They
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didn't do it, you know, in their own internal documents. They the government of El Salvador, where Donald Trump, of
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course, is sending 300 migrants to the torture prison known as SECOT. They
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threw Donald Trump under the bus to the UN Human Rights Commissioner.
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Here's what happened. After the Trump administration first began their deportation flights, which of course
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included Kilar Bgo Garcia, to El Salvador's torture prison, the courts
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stepped in and said, "Nope, you can't do this. Give these people back." And then, of course, it went all the way to the Supreme Court. They said, "Get Garcia
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back." And then the administration at every turn said, "Look, we got no control over it. Uh, they're in El
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Salvador. That's El Salvador's thing. We can't tell another country, another government to give us people back. Like,
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we have no control over it. That's not our jurisdiction. That is what we heard
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every legal step of the way. That is what we heard as they broke the law defying these court orders.
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But that is not what El Salvador told the UN Human Rights Commissioner.
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According to recently released documents, El Salvador actually told the UN Human
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Rights Commissioner that uh Donald Trump, the Trump administration, they actually have jurisdiction over all
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these people. Um they they control every bit of it. You know, if they want them back, all they got to do is ask. And you
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know, they can get them back. you know, we're not keeping anybody here. Here is what El Salvador said, word for word.
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This is from El Salvador's government to the uh UN uh commission, UN Office of
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the High Commissioner for Human Rights. Here's what they said. The actions of the state of El Salvador
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have been limited to the implementation of a bilateral cooperation mechanism with another state through which it has
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facilitated the use of the Salvador and prison infrastructure for the custody of persons detained within the scope of the
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justice system and law enforcement of that other state. In this context, the jurisdiction and
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legal responsibility for these persons lie exclusively with the competent
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foreign authorities by virtue of international agreements signed and in accordance with the principles of
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sovereignty and international cooperation in criminal matters.
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Now, I don't know why the El Salvadoran government decided to refer to the Trump administration as competent because we
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know that that is definitely one thing they are not. But either way, this is El Salvador saying they have jurisdiction.
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They have control over. Notice they took, you know, they took those prisoners. They took the
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prisoners. But as soon as trouble came knocking on their door, they threw Trump under the bus.
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Trump is not smart at all. And other people who are in like that are
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dictators, real dictators, they know that he they know he's soft. They know
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he's incompetent. They know he's a for money. That's why, like I said, Putin plays with him. Putin posted
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Melania Trump's nude pictures on the internet
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for everyone to see, and Trump did nothing.
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before that his first administration a journalist was running from Russia. Okay, the Helsinki meeting
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that journalist put uh did a story that put the Russian government in under sanctions. Putin wanted that journalist
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to be brought back to Russia. Trump was saying like, I think it'd be a great idea to bring that journalist back to
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Russia. Wow.
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the incompetence, the whoredom with Trump.
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Okay. But
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and people were still thinking that he's competent. No, he's not competent. He's a prostitute in a suit for for tyrants.
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And these tyrants don't respect him. Okay. El Salvador throws DO Department
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of Justice under the bus. Tells the UN that the US has exclusive jurisdiction over redition detainees. Okay. For
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months, the DOJ insisted the US courts that it has no jurisdiction over the people it rendered to Salvadorian
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detention facilities. But when the UN came asking, El Salvador told a very different story. These detainees are
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exclusively under the US jurisdiction and legal responsibility. The contradiction is so blatant that it's
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almost insulting to the intelligence of the courts that have been hearing the these cases. But then again, this is the
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same administration that thinks you can just lie your way out of human trafficking charges so you may be insulting judicial intelligence is the
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whole point. In the case of Kilmar Abrio Garcia, whom the US accidentally shipped to El
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Salvador despite a a court order saying that he could not be sent there, when the judge ordered that the US to get him
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back, the Department of Justice insisted that it was out of their hands. Wow.
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It is my understanding based on the official reporting from our embassy in Al in San Salvador that Albrego Garcia
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is currently being held in a terrorism confinement center in the El Salv in El Salvador. He is alive and secure in that facility. He's detained pursuant to the
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sovereign domestic authority of El Salvador. Earlier they had also insisted to the court to a court that the US had
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absolutely no jurisdiction over the people they had reitioned to the Saloran concentration camp. Plaintiffs admit
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they as they must the United States does not have custody over Abrigo Garcia.
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They acknowledge that they that there may be difficult questions of redressability in this case, reflecting
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their recognition that defendants do not have the power to produce Abria Garcia
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from the CCOT in Al Salvador. The Supreme Court even took this at a face value in reviewing the case back in
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April. This also led to the hilarious stupid exchange between President Donald Trump and Salvatorial dictator Naibi
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Beili when they met where they each pretended it was a ridiculous question
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to even contemplate bringing Arregugo back to the US. Okay. But Beck Kelly already knew Trump
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was a fool and the minute any higher authority came into the scene he was
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going to throw Trump under the bus. This was all quite obviously a lie. The US was paying the Saudi government millions
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of dollars to house these men. And the the contract between the two countries even notes that the US gets to decide
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the prisoners disposition. You know, like you do when you obviously when you
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have obviously no control over something. And of course, when it was politically expedient, the US had no
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problem to at all bring ago back to the US to face bogus trumped up criminal
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charges. But now in a different case about these rendition fight flights, the lawyer has turned up a fascinating
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document. When they shared with the court, it was a response from the Salvadorian government to an inquiry
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about these trafficking detainees from the United Nations. And when confronted by the UN, El Salvador immediately threw
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the US under the bus, saying that the detainees are fully under the jurisdiction of the United States.
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Saudian state empathetically states that its authorities had have not arrested, detained or transferred the persons
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referred to in the communications of the working group. The actions of the state of Al Salvador have been limited to the
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implementation of a bilateral cooperation mechanism with another state through which it has facilitated the use
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of salvary prison infrastructure for the custody of persons detained within the
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scope of the justice system and law enforcement of that other state.
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In this context, the jurisdiction and legal responsibility for these persons
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lie exclusively with the competent foreign authorities by virtue of international agreements signed and in
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accordance with the principles of the sovereignty and international cooperation and criminal matters. In
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this regard, the actions attributable to the Salvadorian state are limited to its sovereignty and territorial jurisdiction
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and therefore it cannot be held responsible for the failure to observe the principle of non-refilement with
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respect to the persons mentioned. Read that again. The jurisdiction and legal responsibility of these for these
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persons lie exclusive with the competent foreign authorities meaning the United States. This is the same assador that
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Trump and Blly pretended had no ability to coordinate with the US on these detainees fate. Even more damning, the
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lawyers note that the DOJ was aware of this document and failed to provide it to the lawyers for the people being
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trafficked despite being required to during discovery. This information
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came to petitioners attention within a the last week when council for the petitioners obtained the Spanish
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language report from one of the families. Although the United States was aware of this document as evidenced by
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the state that it was copied on the reports for all four cases, it was
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neither provided to petitioners even though it was clearly incompass in petitioner's request for production nor
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provided to the court. Example two, the petitioner's request for production May
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19th, 2025. Number one, requesting all documents memoriz memoralizing,
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documenting, or describing the arrangements between the United States and Salvador concerning the detention of
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alleged trenaga members in El Salvador. This isn't just a discovery violation.
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It's an active concealment of evidence that directly contradicts the DOJ's core legal argument. The Department of
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Justice had in its possession a document showing that El Salvador considers the US to have exclusive jurisdiction over
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these detainees while simultaneously telling the US courts that the US had no jurisdiction at all. This all matters
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quite a bit because it the law here says that whoever has constructive custody of the individuals can be forced to produce
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the body. And here El Salvador has admitted to the UN that the US that it
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believes the US has exclusive jurisdiction and legal responsibility for these men. Yes, obviously a lot of
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this has been transparent lies and gameplay by both the US and El Salvador. The US conference with Trump and Kelly
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proved that they were going to play it, not it. They were going to play not it and pretend that there was nothing that
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could be done to facilitate anything. even as they sat next to each other talking freely and even as both
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governments knew that El Salvador had already told the UN that the US had exclusive jurisdiction. So you may argue
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that this is not that big of a deal because it only confirms that that what everyone already suspected that of
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course the US has control over these people even as its lenders pretend otherwise.
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Wow. This is insane man. This is insane.
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Basically breaking the law, trying to test the waters to see if they can hold somebody that you have no right
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to hold them and detain them and ship them overseas and then lie and say they're part of MS-13.
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But it could matter quite a bit to the courts. Not only did does it reveal that the US courts absolutely do have
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jurisdiction over the cases of the people reditioned to the Al Salvador the Salvadorian hell hole but also that the
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DOJ actively concealed evidence while lying about this very issue in court
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even as the courts continue to display a ridiculous level of deference to the
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DOJ. We've already seen some signs that various courts patients in wear is wearing thin. This
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kind of outright deception lying to the courts about who has custody of these men while hiding evidence that contradicts your core legal argument
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seems like yet another pivotal movement and making more and more of the judiciary realize that the Trump regime
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is not engaging in good faith in court and has no compunction about flatout lying to avoid taking responsibility for
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any of its murid screw-ups. Turns out that the authoritarian regimes engaged
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in an immoral and despicable campaign of human trafficking might not be just the most trustworthy in court. Who knew? For
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now though, the lawyers are alerting the court and suggesting that they may need more discovery to get to the bottom of
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this. But the bigger question is whether the courts will finally start treating this administration's word with
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skepticism with the skepticism that it deserves. Such additional discovery may be particularly important because the
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new this new evidence contradicts the underlying custody and con conclusion in the COC declaration of May 9th 2025
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which is dated after El Salvador's responses to the UN and after petitioners sought habius review the date habius attaches
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the declaration of Michael G. Corvac of ECF number 125. It was and remains my
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understanding that the detention and ultimate disposition of the the those detained in SECOT and other Salvadorian
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detention facilities are matters within the legal authority of El Salvador in accordance with its domestic and
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international legal obligations. Sometime during these years under the Trump regime, the courts are going to
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need to internalize that the Trump Department of Justice will tell straight up lies to get what it wants from the
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court. The sooner they learn that, the better. That's what we're dealing. We're dealing
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with a dictator. A person that wants to be a dictator. And he's going to be working to detain people, okay, at the
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drop of a hat. You say anything, you speak out against him, he will have you detained. He will have you thrown in in
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an overseas prison. This is just a this is just a test run. This is what they're doing. It's a test run. We are living in
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a fascist society. But let's get on to what everybody wants to know about. And that is Justine Maxel
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about to sing. That's what she's going to do. She is going to sing.
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That's what's going on.
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And here we go.
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All right. Okay.
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There it is. Yep.
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They told us the case was closed, that there was no client list, that Tpstein acted alone. But in this episode, that
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narrative falls apart. For the first time since her conviction, Gain Maxwell speaks from inside a federal prison.
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Abandoned by the elites who once protected her, betrayed by a system that promised leniency for her silence. She's
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done staying quiet. This exclusive interview took months to arrange, navigating legal threats, back channel
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negotiations, and the everpresent pressure of the prison system. But it happened. And what she told us is
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nothing short of explosive. We asked her, "Is Jeffrey Epstein still alive?
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Why is the Department of Justice risking everything to bury this case? Who really visited the island? And why are their
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names still hidden?" She didn't hold back. Maxwell claims the DOJ is sitting on undeniable proof of a client list.
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One that includes world leaders, billionaire CEOs, and a former first lady who twice ran for the presidency. A
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woman, Maxwell says, whose appetite for cruelty left even speechless. She says
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the public were right to be suspicious and that some of the most powerful voices now calling for justice were
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always part of the cover up. This is not just a story about abuse. is a story
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about Much apprec uh much appreciated. Uh Tiara Martinez, much appreciated.
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Our espionage and engineered silence at the highest levels of global power. And it's far from over. If you've been with
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us since the beginning, you already know we're always two steps ahead of the news. We were the first to call out
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pizza gates while the media screamed conspiracy. First to decode the language, the code words buried in the
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Podesta emails. first to report on the Justin Bieber allegations. And we secured a confession about his abuse
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inside the music industry and the dark world of his handlers years before other outlets even dare to whisper about it.
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While they gaslight the public, we follow the trail. And now that trail leads straight to the top. While the
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mainstream media goes silent and the DOJ buries the truth, we're bringing you what they won't touch.
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