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Ian Maxwell, thank you for coming on the show. Your sister met last month with the Deputy United States Attorney General, Todd Blanche. What came of those conversations, Mr. Maxwell? Good morning
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Good morning to you. Well, we're waiting to hear what the DOJ has to say about it. Mr. Blanche said that he would be releasing a statement about it in due course, and we're still waiting on that
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Gillen's lawyer, David Marcus, confirmed that she had answered questions over two days, answered everything truthfully
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And we're waiting really for the outcome of that. What was the line of questioning
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We don't know. Apparently, Mr Marcus, on behalf of Gillen, said she'd been asked questions about perhaps 100 people or so
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That much he spoke about when he gave a small press conference after the talks were over
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But other than that, we do not know. Do you believe the so-called files should be released? And if so, why
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i i believe that transparency is generally the right way to go and i believe transparency is
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the friend of my sister so i do think that to the extent uh some of these uh files or whatever
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they amount to can be released that's a good thing that's your belief you're probably aware
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that the family of one of Epstein's victims has asked Donald Trump not to consider pardoning your sister
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The family member of the late Virginia Giffray saying Ghislaine Maxwell is a monster
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who deserves to rot in prison for the rest of her life So brother how do you respond Well I think I know who the monster is here It certainly isn my sister Virginia Giffray
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was a consummate liar from start to finish. And this is most conspicuously revealed when
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she had alleged that she had slept with professor alan dershowitz maintained it for many years and
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then had to withdraw and desist that's the first major point and perhaps the second and crucial
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point is that the law enforcement elected not to call virginia dufray to the trial of my sister
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the most voluble, perhaps best known of her accusers. And why was that
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Because she would have been eviscerated by the defence. So that's my take on her
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What is the physical condition of your sister at this time, Mr Maxwell
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Well, she's now completed five years of prison, two years of that pretrial in absolutely torturous circumstances
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Hans is at MDC Brooklyn, one of the toughest jails in the world, really, not just in the U.S
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She's now at Tallahassee, which is a pretty violent place, washed with drugs, desperately overcrowded
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And, you know, it's a dangerous place. Prisons are dangerous places. So I am fearful for my sister
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But her spirit is strong. Her belief in her innocence. my belief in that too is resolute how likely is it your sister will go
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before the u.s lawmakers next later this month well it a subpoena uh so that she uh compelled to go but go But her lawyer has written to Congress
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to say that she would like to testify, but that has to be in a safe and appropriate way
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She is engaged in ongoing live legal proceedings, both of the Supreme Court of the United States
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which we know just yesterday has confirmed that it will be considering her petition
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after the summer recess starting September 29th so just six weeks after the date that the
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Congress has summoned her but in order for her to be able to testify she has requested perfectly
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reasonably in her lawyer's view and of course in the family's view that she receive immunity
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for doing so, that because she's already been in jail for five years, it is pointless seeking to do
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a cat and mouse game with her. If they really want proper testimony, they should provide her
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with the questions in advance so that she can prepare adequately, including being able to
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cooperate what she says. There are other conditions, including that the interview would not take place
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in Tallahassee prison, which is a dangerous, leaky, inappropriate place for that sort of testimony
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From your knowledge, did President Trump ever go to Epstein's island? I don't know. I do not know that he ever did
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Did you meet with Epstein? Yes, I did. What did you make of him, Mr Maxwell
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I thought he was a highly intelligent man. He had a sort of dark charisma about him
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He was a very aggressive listener. You felt that he was taking things from you, taking information from you
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I didn't warn to him, I have to say. He not a man that I would have wanted to go for a drink with if you see what I mean But this was a relatively short time maybe an hour or two something like 25 years ago
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That was the only time. Lastly, how likely do you think it is your sister will be released during President Trump's term in office
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well obviously we we hope that that will happen she has as i said a live uh a petition to the
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supreme court if the supreme court uh decide that they are going to hear that and then uh grant her
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appeal that's the end of the process because uh the basis of her petition is that she should never
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have been uh put on trial let alone convicted so that's a shut up then if that doesn't run
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she is going to run a whole series of putting before the court a new set of evidence
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which goes straight to the heart of why she did not get a fair trial
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And there would she be seeking declaration of a mistrial. So I think that on the legal front, there's a very good chance
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And then, of course, there's a pardon, commutation, all kinds of things could happen
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I'm hopeful. Let me finish. While I'm grateful for your time, a lot of my listeners are sending me notes
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They think it's a pretty low blow to slander someone who's dead and not here to respond, Virginia Giffray
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How would you defend that action, Mr Maxwell? My sister's been banged up for five years
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It is very, very largely due to the actions, lies of this woman
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who has destroyed my sister's life and other lives with her lives
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including that of Prince Andrew and other young women whom she recruited for Epstein
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I shed no tear for Virginia Dufresne
