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Taylor Swift joins Heart Breakfast with Jamie Theakston and Emma Bunton to launch her brand new album The Life of a Showgirl!
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Honestly, like, you just mean the world to me and it was like absolutely, you were the first person I freaked out over
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I'm really going right now. Just caught a glimpse of the ring. Oh yeah, you want to see
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Yes, we do! Well, listen, so am I right in saying that Travis designed that ring
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He did. And he was just paying attention to everything it turns out. Because when I saw the ring, I was like, I know who made that, I know who made that, I know who made that
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Actually, you would think that I had been the type of person who would have obsessed over the idea of a wedding my whole life
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but I actually never thought about what I would ever do or what I would want until I met the person
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So I haven't actually even thought about that. This feels like a significant cultural moment right here
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Do you know what I'm saying? It does. Two icons who change the face of popular music
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the Spice Girls opened the door Taylor Swift walked right through it
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and she it's so crazy to actually get to be in the same room with you
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because I was telling you I had your doll the Baby Spice doll
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and it was like my favourite one and like we would all fight over who got to be you
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like amongst the girls that were blonde no way like yeah and honestly like
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you just mean the world to me and it was like absolutely
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you were the first person I freaked out over I'm really going good now
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I don't know how to take all this in so thanks for talking to me
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because obviously we are huge fans of yours my family here it's just been incredible for you
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and I must admit I came to your tour twice yeah that blew me away
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that absolutely blew me away because they gave us a list of who's going to be at the show
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and I'll just be looking over backstage I saw you on the list
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and I was like, oh my God. Oh my God. And then I could see you. Oh my God
1:57
Yeah, from the stage. Because weren't you next to Taylor's mom and dad? So I was next to your mom and dad
2:03
and it was so lovely. We had such a lovely night. We chatted and, you know
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it was just so brilliant. I got to know a bit more about your music as well because your dad was telling me
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Oh my God. My dad is the most social man on the planet. There's not a single stranger
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he has ever met in his entire life. And he like, I guarantee you, he went back to like when I was born
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and talked throughout the entire show at her. He'll talk about like talent shows and like, you know, it was great
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Yeah, it was amazing. It was an amazing night. It's a massive day today
2:37
Obviously, the album is out today. What we all want to hear though is the first single from the album Will you introduce it for us It would be an honor I am so excited about this song It the first song on the album and the first single It is called The Fate of Ophelia
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That noise you can hear, that Swifties Googling Hamlet, desperately trying to find out
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You know what? We got to get the kids reading. I seem to remember, though, Ophelia, she went mad and then died
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Yeah, she was driven mad by love. and so the play on it, the hook is like, you know
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someone comes into your life and rescues you from the fate of being driven mad by love
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Right. So, yeah. Just amazing. I mean, I've been waiting for this album. I have pre-order
3:23
Really? Yes. Thank you. I've heard that the vinyl is like sparkly
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It's really cool. We're all very excited about it. Oh, thank you so much. Have you got a favorite track on that
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I mean, it's really hard because people ask me this, obviously, and it's so difficult to pick a favorite
3:36
I think it might be Wishlist. it's a song that was actually
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the last song that we made for the album and it was the song where like after we finished
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it I was like oh we're done like we're good we're done with this
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this is the final piece and it's a really dreamy song it's a really romantic song it's all about
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like it details all these different things that people aspire to have in their lives and all the wishes
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that people are making all over the world of like things in their lifestyle or things
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they want to buy or places they want to go and then in the chorus it talks about what mine would be
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And I'm just, I'm really into that one. One of the things that you both have in common, I think
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is that what the Spice Girls did and what you do, Taylor, is that you put your fans at the very front of everything you do
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I definitely think that you guys did that better than anybody and it was like, it's really fun as a fan to feel known
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and to feel like the artist cares about what you actually want from them
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And obviously you have to mandate and manage that relationship because you can't, you have to be an artist and have your own vision
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and make things for your reasons too. But you always did factor us in
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I felt like. She's talking about us. I know, it is incredible
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But I think obviously that was the hugest part for us because we wrote our songs for the fans
4:56
And we were still young. We were similar ages at that time. But then the fans grew obviously and then it becomes a family event
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and that's what is so amazing and that's what I noticed at your gigs
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You know, there's families, there's grandparents, there's kids, there's mums, dads. It's just, that's what makes it so special, doesn't it, I think
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Yes, that was the Ares tour looking out and seeing the cross-generational sort of like
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you could see this is an entire family. This is a grandchild, a mother and a grandmother
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or like you just seeing like kind of people having these moments and shared moments together as families and it feels like a huge honor to be a part of something like that and that this tour was the first time I saw it so
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intensely. Can I, I just caught a glimpse of the ring. Oh yeah, you want to see? Yes we do
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Well listen, so am I right in saying that Travis designed that ring? He did, he did, he designed it
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with this amazing, this amazing jeweler, Kindred Lubeck is her name and she does all of her gold
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engraving by hand and um i had shown him a video of like i just thought her stuff was so cool so i'd
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shown him a video like a year and a half ago and he was just paying attention to everything it turns
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out because when i saw the ring i was like oh i know who made that i know who made that i know
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who made that and also you listen to me and like what you nervous though he did good he did amazing
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it was like you you really know me like i i i didn't know what i would want but he did somehow
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and that's kind of a flex. Oh, I'm so pleased. Congratulations, by the way
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Thank you so much. But I must admit, I'm kind of thinking about, you know, it's quite important
6:35
the hen night and you've got a good girl gang. Oh my God. I mean, everyone's scattered
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across the world is the thing. It's like, I actually, you would think that I had been
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the type of person who would have obsessed over the idea of a wedding my whole life
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but I actually never thought about what I would ever do or what I would want
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until I met the person. It's like then, so I haven't actually even thought about that
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Like doing a hen do or whatever. Okay. This is the first time I have thought about that
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Stop it. I just know your girlfriends. I've met a couple of your girlfriends. Oh, they're so fun
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They're great fun. They're so fun, but they're so busy. That's true. Do you know what I mean? They're busy
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You're just going to have to, you know, get it in the diary. Just one, even one night would be fun, wouldn't it
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It would be fun. I want to talk about your next era. Yeah. Because what happens now
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You know, you've shared so much. I mean, we just started this one
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We just started it. I was going to say. Arguably haven't even really started it yet
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So we've got to just, we got, we're putting, we're taking baby steps. We're putting one foot in front of the other
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We're going to, I love this era. I love this theme of this album
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It's so fun to play with. I want to make more music videos. Like I actually have time to do stuff like that
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So you know what I mean? We've got to get outfits ready for this era. Don't move on too quickly. We cannot move on
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I'm having too much fun with this. Do you know what I mean? But what I meant was, I guess I meant the married life era
7:56
I mean, I just got engaged. I know. These things just happen to me
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But we're all so excited. I know, I'm really excited too. I'm so excited
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And I love that you're excited too. And you would absolutely love him. He's the most fun person
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I sure at some point you guys will get to all hang out I mean he a big big strong American football player Yeah He was on stage with you wasn he i saw that show when he came on stage with you he was so good he just picked you up and
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has he got such a natural just in life like like he's just he's just kind of like never been nervous
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about anything in his entire life right so it's it's pretty fun he's all the things he's like he's
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like fun and vibrant and has this infectious personality makes me laugh so much but like yeah
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you're looking for like there's a line in the song that says that you just wanted
8:50
a best friend who you think is hot and it's kind of like that's kind of it
8:54
Is it easier writing songs when you're in love or when you were single
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I think that's always a thing Writing songs is one of my favourite things and I did kind of nurture a fear
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earlier on in my career that if I ever wasn't truly miserable in my personal life would I be able to write
9:11
and I think that's one of the reasons I love this album so much is we were like catching lightning in a bottle every time we were writing songs for this
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record. And I do think that someone in your life who fuels you, who makes you more, everyone in my
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life is like, you've never been so yourself, which is this interesting thing that you've been you
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your whole life, but we are different shades and different ourselves at different volume levels
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And this person came into my life and everybody's like, yeah, you've never been so you. And I think
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that comes through in music people who fuel you they fuel every part of you and they make you
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walk taller and and they make you present in a more vibrant way and so hopefully that you know
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bleeds into the music too well listen we completely get it we wish you all the apps at the very best
9:58
with everything thank you i can't tell you how many messages we've got from your have you got
10:02
a quick message for your fans back here in the uk oh just that i love them and i miss them and i'm
10:07
I loved seeing them in those crowds every night. I could see
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you know, I think one thing I wish they knew is how clearly I can see everyone in the crowd
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Um, and, and how much I loved seeing them experience the show and experiencing that
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with them. Um, and how, how fun they make it for me to put out music
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Like my little like weird Easter egg stuff would not be fun if they didn't
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truly care about the music I was putting out and that they, they care about the lyrics. Like that means the world to me
10:35
And that's why I go so full out, you know, full on with the whole releasing music in weird kind of cryptic ways
10:44
You do it all beautifully, I think. It's called The Life of a Showgirl
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I mean, it doesn't need me to say it. Everyone's been waiting to hear it. It's out now
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A huge thanks to our special guest. What an absolute joy. Taylor Swift. Thank you for having me, guys
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Thank you. Thank you, darling. This is hot. Thank you
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